Development Update 2nd Sept 2016

CMDaddyPig · 1日前

No matter what feedback you gave us, you have been heard and we are listening carefully. Thank you.

Pretty much the best thing they could've said about the negative feedback, tbh

What matters now, as always, is what we do rather than what we say. We’re developers, and our focus is first on resolving any issues people have with the game as it is, then on future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe.

(Emphasis mine) Woop!

gamingnewzoid · 1日前

At least they mention free updates for future improvements

selraith · 22時間前

"then on future free updates ..."

This made me very happy and relieved.

Kylemc3 · 1日前

Taking the "Actions speak louder than words" approach.

Okay, I can respect that

JimmiG · 22時間前

Holy shit, an update from HG!

Amazing!

Hell has frozen over!

Thermal protection low!

TyrionBananaster · 1日前

This is kinda what I was mentally expecting them to do, sorta. I didn't expect there to be any real message to the fans until a major content patch, in which they would say, "yeah, we know we messed up and were really quiet at first, but we knew you wouldn't believe our claims of more content until you actually saw the stuff we're putting into the game post-release. Well, here it is, and we hope you continue to believe us in the future."

They're taking a mindset of "actions speak louder than words," and I'm excited to see where that goes. Could they still royally screw it up? Sure, it's definitely possible. But I remain optimistic.

Trojanbp · 23時間前

I mean, this is greatly appreciated but it still feels like they're evading all the accusations and controversies. Yes, it is what they do from here on that will speak for them but they need address the false marketing and the game they sold. It's not subjective, the game is not what they marketed it as. They still have the 2014 trailer and screenshots on the GOG and Steam store page. Even if they say they're going to continue support and communicate, it feels weird to just forget how they marketed this game. If they turn this game around and make it closer to what there marketed that'll put to rest them being called cash grabbing, malicious scammers but the fact will still remain that they lied during marketing.

DrStabwounds · 1日前

Short and to the point.

devinup · 18時間前

So nothing new

TheRagingDead · 17時間前

Sigh. Why'd I even read these comments.

Shoden · 23時間前

That is good to read and actions will speak louder than words. This is still a wonderful game, but they need to be clear on some things.

They need to state if Portals do anything in game. Right now these are the only buildings in the game that have no understandable interaction.
Clear statement that "meeting up" and at least seeing one another is not possible.
Explain that systems are skybox bubbles and you can't fly from system to system without warp or fly into the sun.

Stop the speculation on players part and be direct. The "mysterious" element flies out the window when there is shown content not in the final game. Before any talk about what improvements we need to have crystal clear understanding of what the game is as of now. It would also help people know exactly how much is actually possible for improvement.

CaptainAnopheles · 10時間前

Well, it's a start. Now, just to make things interact a bit more (creatures-weather, creatures-creatures, creatures-plants, player-weather, etc) and the game will feel more dynamic.

Rhaylee · 23時間前

Whoever they hired as a CM, I have to say that they are one brave person..

HyperGiant · 1日前

Is...is this the major update this week?

colonial113 · 11時間前

Very nice words - but in light of what happened let's not be overexcited and wait... and see. Earning credibility back is a hard thing to do.

Daekar3 · 1日前

Well, you can't say nicer than that. I think that was an excellent reaction to the feedback, and really... they have been busting ass. That many patches that quickly... God, it makes me want to send them a couple of Keurigs and a crate of K-cups.

Keep it up, HG. We can't wait to see what you've got up your sleeves.

cherbert · 1日前

This is a labour of love for us, and it’s just the beginning.

Is it too early to fire up the engines on the old hype train or was it mothballed?

Elytrus · 23時間前

They're definitely working their asses off, but I still don't classify this as actual communication. They need to realize that the only way that people are going to stay interested is if they actively report their status (i.e. like the Star Citizen devs, that game's hype would have died forever ago if they didn't constantly update people on the development). I greatly appreciate their efforts so far, but they need to focus on talking, and announcing actual features and improvements that will be added/made in the near future. Bug fixes are great, and I want them to keep doing that, but bug fixes alone generally don't excite the general user who wants the game to just "get better".

But keep it up Hello Games ily

sschrupp · 23時間前

I'm glad they specified in perfectly clear language that they will be making free updates first. That doesn't mean that some time in the future they won't have paid DLC, but at least this should put some people at ease in the near term.

I'm guessing they will be coming up with a priority list of updates now that will give the most bang for the buck. Based on work already done but not finished in time for release, what can they finish the quickest to keep players playing and hopefully regain trust.

PlayBCL · 1日前

I don't know how to feel about this update.

thamoomin81 · 1日前

I don't know these people (the developers) but I believe in them and that they plan to make things right (even though imo the game is already great) concerning what was advertised and what was delivered. They seem like a sincere bunch to me despite all the "Sean lying" outrage. Not sure what else they could have said, time will tell but I think this sends a clear message that they havent "run away with our cash" and that this game has a bright future.

RealNC · 18時間前

It's somewhat ironic that the thumbnail for this post is a completely blank page :-P

Kegis79 · 14時間前

This game is going to be awesome in 25 years.

Nijata · 1日前

Development Milestone Accomplished: Won Back people's respect: KINDA (first star of 20)

MyBikeIsAwesome · 1日前

Thanks for the message. I made about 10 jumps this morning with no crashes. Keep it up HG, this game is great.

TheRagingDead · 17時間前

I'm glad the shitstorm hasn't diminished the commitment HG has to a game which is so obviously a labor of love.

MatteAce · 23時間前

after all that SM said has been misinterpreted/not understood/oversold (I'm listing the several points of view) I can't disagree on the fact that it's better to keep words at a minimum and works up to the sky.

even because without a proper community manager (which they are seemingly training) anything SM would say would be dissectioned and used to hate them.

so far they're delivering. future seems bright.

LemonLimeLife · 23時間前

Yay they spoke! :)

NecroBones · 22時間前

Well, that's a start! :)

Crazygar · 21時間前

I'm excited to see where this leads us. I have held onto the game, as it has massive potential and room for improvement.

To deliver what was promised or talked about, would be incredible. But, I will wait and see before making any celebratory announcements on my own behalf.

Actions will speak much louder than words now.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh3 · 17時間前

I'm much more at ease now. Time now for ship hunting on this three day weekend.

TheloniousPhunk · 2時間前

Everyone needs to remember that there are countless examples of Devs coming out and saying "DLC is free!" and then turning around and charging for it, or introducing microtransactions to compensate.

At the end of the day, Sean and Hello do what SONY wants them to do. That's how these things work. Everyone said the same shit about Destiny when they announced the Live team and 'free' updates that turned into microtransactions that are slowly but surely taking over real features in the game.

Most likely won't happen in this case, but y'all need to be prepared for the best AND the worst.

DarthBaculum · 23時間前

Our accomplishments this month: 1. A shitload of patches! 2. Patch notes! Aren't you lucky! 3. We hired a community manager! Bet you can't wait to talk to him! 4. Made sure new community manager is working! We promise!

Furinkazan616 · 4時間前

This is, ironically, just empty PR speak. No mention of missing features, no clarification on players seeing each other, and no hints about working portals.

I‘ve learned my lesson with Sean and Hello Games, and i will not be suckered by them again with promises of updates that add things that should have been in at launch.

What he should have said is "I‘m sorry".

MugatuSupreme · 19時間前

Labor of love confirmed!

Edge80 · 19時間前

Good to see some form of communication on their part. I sold my copy today and hope to pick it up again in the future during a steam sale. I hope you guys all have fun in the meantime.

Nihillenium · 15時間前

I'm not quite sure which ones were the worst... the trolls, the mindless haters or now that most of the aforementioned are gone, the vocal superfans that lash out at anyone who has criticisms regardless of the constructive nature of a post. This sub has become a whole lot sadder compared to when everyone was still here. I guess that answers my own question...

I realize this will get downvoted into oblivion but this is simply how I feel after reading the comment section. Bear in mind that all this is coming from someone that's both a fan of the game (or at least the concept behind what we've got) AND an unbiased critical thinker that's not blind to all the shortcomings this game has, Lore-wise AND Feature-wise.

Hope this will get better in time...

Piranha771 · 5時間前

• We’ve written up patch notes for all those patches.

W - T - F

It's not like this patch notes basically write themselves due to the nature of an issue tracker.

Wow. Just wow.

But hey they at least got 4 points together. The first two points are "we build support team after we released the game."

Octo_Prime · 22時間前

They're still acting like the only thing wrong with the game is bugs that cause occasional crashes. I tried to defend them at first, but I can't anymore, not until they at least acknowledge the game's shortcomings.

Vict0rian_ · 12時間前

How did they manage to write 4 paragraphs that mean absolutely nothing?

coloumb · 12時間前

This is a step in the right direction, but the damage is already done. They admit guilt and expect people to forgive and forget about the past. I don't think a lot of people will [re]buy back into the game at this point... :(

They brought on a "community/support management team". What exactly does that mean? Are they there only to answer bug report emails or will they also be more communicative on the website and in the Reddit forums about our concerns and what's planned for the game going forward - specifically content updates.

And what will "future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe" entail? Will it be the list of features we saw in the various videos [ie: e3 demo] that didn't make it into the game? Or will it just be fluff until a [paid] DLC is released?

Still a lot of vague communication if ya ask me. :(

dethsesh · 23時間前

Amazing. They provide a "Development Update" to let us know they hired a CM, and released 4 patches that we already knew about days/weeks ago and are currently playing.

They also wrote up patch notes, and reminded us (again) they are planning on doing updates for the game! OMG, that's amazing!

Great update.

indeepth0ught · 16時間前

No matter what feedback you gave us, you have been heard and we are listening carefully. Thank you.

Really? Then where's the response to it? This is such a slap in the face.

matthias7600 · 19時間前

Base building will not fix this game.

OMGWTFBBQUE · 1日前

Very tempered response. They are really choosing their words and communicating clearly. I like it!

xdegen · 22時間前

...then on future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe.

I'll believe it when it happens.. We've been burned before about supposed features.

Edit: how is being cautious, about a developer that has lied in the past, considered controversial? Never said I hated the game. I don't.

mr_luc · 22時間前

I appreciated this phrasing: "issues with the game as it is" which is to say, what you are playing now is, barring bugs, The Game. It's not a teaser or a demo level; it's The Game, and it stands on its own.

If this isn't a fun game for you, well, not everyone has the same taste when it comes to entertainment.

For people who like the game as it is, however, the future looks bright. :)

Soleil14 · 22時間前

'We’re developers, and our focus is first on resolving any issues people have with the game as it is' - have you forgot about the time your game was released without the people who own it being aware whether or not the game has multiplayer? Couldn't spare 1 minute on Twitter to confirm something so important? Fuck off HG, you knew exactly what you were doing, and the fans certainly weren't listened to at the most important time.

archeolog108 · 23時間前

Did I hear free updates? I hope they will take into consideration this reddit and its feature suggestions.

szJosh · 9時間前

Love this response. It's nose to the grindstone wasting no energy at all.

ball34ville · 2時間前

Has anyone else notice that this same message has been sent out a hundred times from them?

emberfairy · 2時間前

no real information in that post whatsoever. Disappointing.

Anonnymush · 1日前

Dear Sean:

I know you read these threads and I just want to say that I'm still playing. I've said very angry things about some of the things that are clearly not present in the current build.

But behind all of that outrage and dissatisfaction is the underlying acknowledgment of the incredible potential of your game. Really, it stirs passions simply because of how awesome an idea it really is.

Don't be disheartened by my words or any other ones. This game is, or can be, incredible. Right now, it's been dialed back so far that it's disappointing. But disappointment can only come from the recognition of something with potential.

That's what you should hear at this point. Did you ship a game that fails to meet the expectations set by the trailers? Did the trailers clearly run on some game that IS NOT what we got? Yes. Let's acknowledge your reliance on scripting and pre-generation of content seen in your trailers. Let's acknowledge that the reason there wasn't serious scenery pop in your trailers is that the assets were done by hand and were not being generated on-the-fly the way the game we got is. The end result is that it's fine so long as you can find a way to deliver on it. It's possible that you'll have to explore revolutionary ways of rendering the scene, it's possible you'll have to go outside of your small team to find the technologies and ideas that will make this happen. Do that. Get as close as you can, engage with the community if you have to. Many of us can create assets and you can filter those with your unique vision.

This game could someday be Game of The Year material. It needs some really big tweaks. Keep your vision of exploration, but realize that in order to keep people exploring, there has to be some rare things, maybe even planets with cities on them and aliens doing alien things, crashed freighters, etc in order to make cresting the next hill a true act of exploration.

Through all of this, just keep going. Shipping an incomplete or disappointing game is not the end of Hello Games. LEAVING IT THAT WAY is.

The community can help. We're passionate about it.

MammothErection · 18時間前

It's been close to a month, I love updates that let me know that patches we're currently playing on for about a week have been added to the game.

I would have never figured that out with out a update!

BroccoliThunder · 7時間前

So no new content on the line, i think youll fix it up as much as possible and leave it at that hm?

ispectre7 · 1日前

"This is a labour of love for us, and it’s just the beginning." Well fuck, if that's the case then you know NMS was supposed to be an Early Access to begin with.

rabbit368 · 22時間前

Thank god they finally said something. Jesus.

Too bad it's corporate gobledy gook. Well here's hoping those additional features come hot and fast.

Aec1985 · 14時間前

the msg is both bad and good

good - looks like they do plan to add more content than just freighters and bases

bad - they basically said "we're not going to explain why we lied about features being in game". and imo, this is ONLY ok if they intend to implement a lot of them... time will tell

ipreferkiss · 23時間前

I love the statements that they are developers, this is a labor of love and this is just the beginning.

I think the potential in this game is supremely awesome.

Fingerbit · 1日前

I love it.

BluPrysm · 22時間前

Why did it take weeks to write this short blog post? They could have offset so much hate.

cobblers47 · 17時間前

This is just ^{s^%$jh} to my rYE"^{y^jk}

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