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[–]lab_fly 13ポイント14ポイント  (19子コメント)

It is off by default and you need to turn it on. I can't imagine very many people using this. Why would people want to continue browsing the web as before, but losing money as they do it?

[–]love_eggs_and_bacon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I imagine it will be bitcoin users who want to promote digital currency with publishers giving them enough incentive to think about bitcoin in more broad terms and taking it more seriously

[–]PopChest[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

The amount of time you save by not loading/watching ads is tremendous. Literally years of your life. Also, on mobile particularly, the data savings (cost) is tremendous.

But, content creators still need a way to sustain making the stuff you love. So paying them directly through bitcoin is a miracle. Win-win!

[–]lab_fly [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

So if you have ad block on chrome, only use wifi on mobile, and are a bad person, then you have no reason to turn it on?

[–]firstfoundationredditor for 12 days [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Use only wifi on mobile? Get real. Also, ad block isn't perfect. Still have to wait some seconds or deal with layout tricks.

This isn't really viable until lightning but once that's going it'll be game on. I'll definitely load some bits to surf in style (and be supporting sites with money instead of my time and annoyance).

[–]Aardvaarkianredditor for 1 month [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also, ad block isn't perfect. Still have to wait some seconds or deal with layout tricks.

But Brave is? Presumably, because it has the whole internet ad-stripped and reformatted on its giant server farm in NJ?

[–]Hitchslappy [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

A lot of people know how to use piratebay but still prefer to pay for movies. Obviously not everyone will use Brave for this purpose, but if the user base grows then some significant amount will pay to surf. Alternatively you can get paid to surf.

[–]guitar187 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So this does pay the user to surf the Internet? Sorry, I'm just confused. If so, that's s big win

[–]Hitchslappy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think that's one of the options if you allow it to show ads.

[–]di_L3r [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The huge difference is that using piratebay is illegal while blockings ads is not. So for movies it's: buy it safely for a small amount or get it free but risk paying a lot more in the end.

[–]Hitchslappy [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Good point. That was just one example though. Micropayments make it easier to support websites you care about (it might even be must one website you want to help - a newspaper for example).

[–]di_L3r [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yes, that's right. In that way it's similar to flattr for example. They partnered with adblock to automatically give a tiny amount of money to sites you visit and block ads.

I guess in that regard brave is the same thing just with bitcoins.

[–]Hitchslappy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I think you can also get paid to allow ads, so you could potentially allow ads on some sites to support others.

[–]db2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The huge difference is that using piratebay is illegal while blockings ads is not.

Yet.

[–]Aardvaarkianredditor for 1 month [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The amount of time you save by not loading/watching ads is tremendous.

So ...ABP FTW?

[–]BBQ_RIBS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's off by default... FOR NOW. I imagine that will likely change once they gain wider spread adoption and they are able to educate their user base on why it's a good thing.

[–]Dignified27 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yea I thought it would pay users micro amounts, I'm of similar mindset as you

[–]valerian253 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

And with that, millions of people will have their first bitcoin wallet. #ToTheMoon

[–]vamprismredditor for 3 months [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How do the site owners colect the tipped Bitcoin? What if I want to show support to a site by tipping bitcoin but that site us never heard of Bitcoin?

[–]P43R0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From their FAQ:

"5. How do publishers get paid? Your monthly contribution is split among the sites you visit as you browse. The Brave browser calculates the percentages based on a combination of how many pages you visit and how much time you spend on each site."

"9. How do I collect my payments as a publisher? When contributions for an individual publisher are equal to about $10.00 USD (in BTC, of course), an email is sent to both the webmaster of the site and the registered domain owner. The email explains how to verify your bitcoin wallet with Brave Software. (If the publisher doesn't already have a bitcoin wallet, the email explains how to create one.)

Verification of a bitcoin wallet with Brave Software is a lot like verifying a domain name: Brave Software generates an unpredictable token and the publisher uses that token and their Bitcoin address to construct a TXT record in the DNS that Brave Software verifies."

[–]misterbitcoins [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Or you could just use http://Protip.is - which works with Chrome, charges NO FEES (brave charges 5%) and is open source and free.....

for Content Creators: just add your bitcoin address to your work.

no complicated legally questionable ad-replacement system needed.

[–]7SM [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

All their payment code is open source too, don't get me wrong but pro tip is like, off-hand ice cream and brave is Ben and Jerry's. No one wants off brand.

[–]Dignified27 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do we just install Brave Brower add address and surf teh Internetz? ??

Edit: partnered with Bitgo, lol and it seems we pay the sites we wanna visit I was wrong it's vice versa..

[–]walloon5 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How I kind of wish this worked was that a website could have an ad channel -- and put into that channel something like:

402 Payment Required

https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html

And then below that, some kind of bitcoin address, the amount they want, or maybe other networks, like Brave, a Lightning Network channel, ... a Netflix subscription, or something, some way to pay, and if you cant

Then give them the ad.

Now the people with "free ad blockers", in the long run, this isn't going to work. The sites are going to work harder and harder to make it so you see ads. They'll just have to do the equivalent of making the pattern that is an ad very hard to decode.

or, if they have to, to make you see ads, the whole page will be a canvas they draw on, blowing all these nice HTML and CSS specs out of the water.

Anyway, long run, you'll either see ads, or be a subscriber to the site and not see ads, or not visit the site.

[–]firstfoundationredditor for 12 days [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is there a list of sites that have signed on to swap out ads for bits?

[–]jaydoors [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've enabled this. $5 a month for what I do on the internet is OK with me. And I know you can do this with plugins but I quite like seeing where I've been spending time (the $5 is shared pro rata I guess).

Try it for a month and see.

[–]choco_beachredditor for 11 days [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Building payments into the browser is such a horrible idea. Browsers are known to be ridiculously insecure and full of holes while still being the #1 target for internet hacks through phishing, malware exploit kits, etc. Nobody involved in Brave has any professional experience dealing with malware, fraud, or other types of abuse.

If you feel like using this, only give the browser access to a tiny amount of bitcoin that you don't mind losing.

[–]bitcoinmp 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I see the open source repo on Github but nothing about payments. Closed for now?

[–]kolinHallredditor for 25 days 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Download the latest beta. My browser I'm using now has the payments option.

[–]valerian253 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mine too. But, I think the payments API and source is closed for now.

[–]specialenmity [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I really like this but I keep wondering what sites deserve my money. For instance I spend a lot of time on reddit. But reddit was bought by conde-nast which is a nasty company. So porn sites maybe?

[–]Future_Prophecy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This would work much better if the website operator could charge the users for viewing content and you could pay seamlessly out of your wallet with a single click. The current implementation seems to be just a tipping scheme and very few people will use it.

[–]autotldr [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


Users simply need to turn on Brave Payments from within Brave's preferences page, then fund their Brave wallet, and then browse as usual.

We are excited to partner with BitGo, to support the per-user Brave wallets that hold your Bitcoin-denominated funds for making Brave Payments; with Coinbase, to make it easy for all users to buy Bitcoin from within Brave via the Coinbase Buy Widget; and with Private Internet Access, to mask the Internet Protocol addresses of our users from our own servers.

By integrating Bitcoin under-the-hood with Brave Payments today, along with the faster and more secure ad-free and tracker-free browsing already in Brave, we hope to gain enough loyal users so that, with your help, we can collaborate on a truly private eventual standard for web payments.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top keywords: Brave#1 Payments#2 Users#3 sites#4 support#5

[–]yogibreakdanceredditor for 2 months [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

wait I thought I will get paid while surfing web, but this is the exact opposite.

Even I decide to pay, it does not seem to able to do anything to those annoying pop ups/ads that I want to block which mostly come from sites like thepiratebay or pornhub.

[–]guitar187 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Highly disappointing. Doesn't it make sense to transfer value from the advertiser to the user? Paying the user for impressions?

Why would someone pay the host to access something they can get for free? I don't see a lot of people paying to remove adds at this stage of the game.

[–]tophernator [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Doesn't it make sense to transfer value from the advertiser to the user? Paying the user for impressions?

What's your plan for dealing with bots?

The day after you make something where people can earn money by passively visiting a website, that website will be crushed under a mountain of bots.

[–]CanHasBurgerredditor for 1 month [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Years ago there was a service that would pay you to show you ads above your main browser window, can't remember now what it was called but I made real money with mouse movement macros. Damn, what was it called... There might have been a few.

[–]freework [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Highly disappointing. Doesn't it make sense to transfer value from the advertiser to the user? Paying the user for impressions?

This is how Autotip works. Advertisers pay autotip, autotip pays that out to users, then users pay the content creators. Autotip occasionally shows ads to users, but it's much less intrusive. If a user doesn't ever pay out to the content creators, then they don't get any payouts from the advertisers. This is all enforced by the blockchain, as all autotip activity is on-chain.

[–]sreaka [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yep, Bitcoin always seems to have it backwards. Openbazar for example, great for the merchant but not for the buyer, yet we think it will draw millions of consumers.

[–]Future_Prophecy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why do people buy music/movies when they can get pirated versions for free? Convenience.

I would pay $0.05 to read an article if it just meant clicking an accept payment button. Yeah, I can try to get a cached version for free, but the effort is not worth saving 5 cents for me.

[–]brg444 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Doesn't it make sense to transfer value from the advertiser to the user? Paying the user for impressions?

No, not at all.

[–]BitcoinIsSimple [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well this is NOT what I thought it was going to be.

Can I choose to not pay any website and collect the bitcoin And spend it where I choose?

While its current functionality appears good I definitely need to be able to send exact amounts where I want. Will the functionality I am describing be added at some point?

Also, developers, myself as well as others want the option for the mobile browser interface to be more normal something with similar functionality to chrome. Just add it as an option for the love of God. Thanks.

Edit:

It does appear from the websites lingo that it will be controlled by the user in the end, so the user can choose exactly what funds are going towards such as a music content purchase.

The website says "And if you are feeling generous, you may route your earnings back to the sites you..."

This better be the case.

[–]Brizon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can I choose to not pay any website and collect the bitcoin And spend it where I choose?

They seemed to have removed the ability to withdraw Bitcoin at this point, probably because it required AML/KYC.

[–]man_slave [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can I choose to not pay any website and collect the bitcoin

There is no collecting bitcoin. You pay their wallet and they distribute it. Super smart and cutting edge huh?