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Summer 2016 Tier Review! (self.reddevils)

D1794Viva Ronaldo[M] が 投稿 - announcement

At /r/reddevils we have a fantastic tier system to understand the reliability of sources. Lower the tier, higher the reliability.

Some sources on the tier system come under discussion, stating some are unreliable, some more reliable than they let on.

If you think you have a case for a source changing tier based on our summer window, discuss it here and it may be changed for future windows.

Current tiers:

Tier Source
Tier 0 (Undisputed) @ManUtd, manutd.com
Tier 1 (Highest Quality Sources) BBC, Di Marzio (Sky Italia/Independant Journalist), L'Equipe (France), Sport1 (Germany), Henry Winter (The Times Chief of Football), Simon Stone (BBC Sport), Mohamed Bouhafsi (France), RMCSport (France), Craig Norwood (Club Photographer).
Tier 2 (Proven to have current sources) Bild (Germany/Bavaria), Der Westen (Germany/Schalke/Gladbach/Dortmund), Kicker (Germany), Pierre Menes (Canal+/France), De Telegraaf (Netherlands), COPE (Spain), Raphael Honigstein (Germany Freelancer/Guardian German News), Voetbal International (Netherlands), James Ducker (the Times), SkySports (in particular; Andy Burton)
Tier 3 (Average reliability, or former Tier 2) Jamie Jackson (Guardian), Ian Ladyman(Daily Mail), Ste Bates (Mirror), Telegraph, Guardian, Times, Mark Ogden (Independent), Daniel Taylor (Guardian), Caderna SER (Spain), Ruhr Nachrichten (Germany), Le Parisien (France), Ian Herbert (Independent), Jason Burt (Telegraph).
Tier 4 (Aggregators, indirect sources, low reliability) Sport Witness (aggregator), Newsnow (aggregator), @CheGiaevara (aggregator), BildSport (Germany), Goal.com, Miguel Delaney (Freelance/ESPN/Independant), Guillem Ballague (Sky Sports/Freelance/Cunt), Stuart Mathieson (MEN), Andy Mitten (ESPN/United we Stand), The Independent, Mundo Deportivo (Spain), Marca (Spain/Real Madrid), AS (Spain/Real Madrid), GFN (France/aggregator), Talksport (UK & Ireland), , Here is the City (Aggregator), Bleacher Report (Aggregator that has you click through slideshows to boost ad revenue),
Tier 5 (Known Shitposters and Banned sources) Tancredi Palmieri (Freelance - makes it up as he goes, not banned, but will be removed during transfer windows), Metro (banned - utter shit), Express (banned - redditwide ban due to vote manipulation), The Sun (Banned - for being the sun), Daily Star (Go there for tits, not news), CaughtOffside (Aggregates, but poses the news as its own), Duncan Castles (Freelancer who in the elegant words of this sub is; A bald headed Cunt), Samuel Luckhurst (Shit-stirring bellend.)
Tier IndyKaila This guy is worse than an unknown entity. In fact, his Twitter account is so bad, that Russia considered making a Space Station out of it.
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[–]JhixDe Gea 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Di marzio tier 0 or God tier. He needs his own tier as a sign of respect!

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honestly I agree, he basically never gets anything wrong.

[–]jmn_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't be at the same level of official information given by the club, I'd say.

[–]itsandercontrolJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well at least he didn't say that United had signed Ramsey.

[–]jmn_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I could argue with that.

[–]tocitusMemphis 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think Skysports as a website (without a journalist) should be Tier 3 because this summer they've been about as reliable as the Mirror.

I think they should be taken on a journalist by journalist basis with tweets etc and any article that isn't specified as to the journalist etc should be Tier 3.

[–]mu_37 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

this is probably the best way to address the Sky issue,i don't know how much of a hassle it would be for the mods though.

[–]tocitusMemphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was thinking that as I was typing it. There could be hundreds of them!

An alternative approach would be having the reliable journalists as Tier 2 and everyone else as Tier 3 to slowly either prove or disprove their reliability.

[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree, a lot of people want to change Skysports for the sake of changing something kind of like when there was so much support for removing the downvote button, it's fine the way it is.

They've gotten more gossipy but I still get more excited when Skysports reports something than most sources. Sky shouldn't be removed from r/reddevils/new

[–]mu_37 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

L'Equipe should become Tier 2 imo.

they were a bit shit in the Pogba deal.

[–]tocitusMemphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agree with this. L'Equipe should be Tier 2 - Tier 1 should be stuff that's essentially nearly as official as from the mouth of Mourinho and L'Equipe got stuff right on Pogba but also quite a lot wrong.

[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they were right but the timing was way off.

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

They are spot on with most things though, they weren't even that bad with Pogba tbh.

[–]mu_37 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

of course they aren't a bad source hence am saying Tier 2, but i feel that doing things like saying he's having a medical and even claiming the deal is done almost a month before it was actually done makes them not worthy of Tier1.

[–]pratnalaMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Sun (Banned - for being the sun)

Heh

that Russia considered making a Space Station out of it.

I get it he is shit but don't get the Russia meme

[–]Danda_NakkaMartial & Giggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No fuck. Sky has no right to be in tier 2.

[–]runa198Lewis Hamilton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Richard Keys at least tier 2

[–]JimWolvieRuud van Nistelrooy tra la la la la[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sport1 & Bild should be tier 3 imo, lots of Germans/Bundesliga fans at r/soccer pointed that out before. And as much as I hate it, Castles should move to Tier 3, considering his ties to José's camp.

[–]fmc96Fosu-Mensah 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

L'Equipe and Sport1 should not be Tier 1. COPE should be Tier 1. Luckhurst is a dickhead but he shouldn't be tier 5, tier 3 would be fair. Taylor and SER at Tier 3 really is harsh too. SER broke the Bailly deal and Taylor was the first to say Pogba was our main target this window and kept harping on about it even when it seemed like a fantasy.

[–]rowdyfarfar15Smalling 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think Duncan Castles should become Tier 1 or two but only when he writes for The Times. Seems to be Mourinho's mouthpiece.

[–]DP112Herrera 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Didn't he keep saying we were going to sell Rojo and sign Fonte

[–]DatGuyRichValencia 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

And said Mou didn't want Blind.

Castles was his mouthpiece at Chelsea.

[–]rowdyfarfar15Smalling 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah he did say some shite but I think most of it was for the Daily Express out whatever the other paper he writes for is. I could be wrong. Maybe Tier 3 might be fair?