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[–]shaikhbilalmoin 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just comparing the Arrival of Mourinho at Chelsea where he had to get rid of almost all of the squad so much deadwood, while at united who he sold? not 1 deadwood in first team. That's the job LVG did well, We had so much deadwood 3 year ago now we have zero afterwards. SO credit where its due.

[–]tocitusMemphis 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we hugely re-built the team over the last few years and it is difficult for anyone to dispute that.

David Moyes' squad:

Position Player Current Status/Team
GK DDG Man United
GK Lindegaard Preston North End
GK Amos Cardiff City
RB Rafael Lyon
CB Vidic Retired
CB Ferdinand Retired
CB Jones Man United
CB Smalling Man United
CB Evans West Brom
LB Evra Juventus
LB Fabio Middlesbrough
LB Buttner Dinamo Moscow
CM Carrick Man United
CM Cleverley Everton
CM Fellaini Man United
CM Anderson Spot Club Internacional
CM Fletcher West Brom
CM Giggs Retired
CAM Mata Man United
CAM Kagawa Dortmund
RM Valencia Man United
RM Zaha Crystal Palace
RM Januzaj Sunderland
RM Bebe Eibar
LM Nani Valencia
LM Young Man United
ST Rooney Man United
ST RVP Fenerbache
ST Hernandez Leverkusen
ST Welbeck Arsenal
ST Lawrence Ipswich Town
ST Henriquez Dinamo Zagreb

So that was Moyes' squad for the season and we only have 9 players left from that era with the majority of the replacements/transfers being done by LVG.

[–]SurilliarManchester United 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think you're missing the crazy amount of deadwood he got rid of though.

[–]mu_37[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

fair enough i didn't mention that because i honestly though it was the easiest part of the job,because what is deadwood really?

wouldn't Fellaini and Valencia be called that before Mourinho came by the majority of the fans?

isn't Shweini the best definition of deadwood?

Nani is playing for Valencia today,was he 100% deadwood?

i just feel that this argument is not so black and white.

[–]reddit_no_likeyA new dawn is coming... 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. What some here (& LVG) consider deadwood, I think actually have some life in them yet. Quite a few that LVG let go were horribly mismanaged. Many lost confidence and form under him. 2 (somewhat) failed managers can have that affect.

[–]leonardowmd 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was the shit he got rid of and wasn't afraid to get rid of. Moyes didn't want to upset fergie by dismantling his team, LVG didn't care. Imagine if LVG had t sold the players he had, where we would be now?

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't want to upset Fergie by dismantling the team but sacked all the backroom staff

[–]goodguy1994it's Rooneyyy, it's inevitable. some things are meant to be 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

See I think no ones saying lvg was total failure. Think if we win the title in the next two years he will get a lot of credit for bringing in blind, martial, Rashford, Lingard and TFM

[–]BloodyMess111 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rashford, TFM, Lingard - Joyce mate, not Van Gaal

[–]goodguy1994it's Rooneyyy, it's inevitable. some things are meant to be 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He still has to bring them into the team.

[–]black_squireMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our team is currently made up of 23 outfield players and 3 GKs. Of those 26 players, Mourinho only needed to buy 4 to make up a team he believes can challenge for titles in every competition. It's not about the starters alone. It's about the squad that's available for the manager and LVG is responsibility me for a large percentage of that squad.

Rashford, Lingard, TFM were the youth breakthroughs because of LVG.

Not only was he able to put a squad together with few left to complete, he took them to a trophy win. I don't know aid most people share this sentiment but I believe that FA Cup win huge for the team at the time. Winning a trophy like that provides just the right amount of confidence and motivation to believe that we can continue to win more. The club had gone 3 years without anything. For several of those players it was their first trophy and first FA cup for most. That's big to the development of team psyche.