It's about time for HG to..

PlayBCL · 17時間前

Their PR guy is on a permanent vacation, tied to a rock beneath the hudson bay.

stuntsbluntshiphop · 16時間前

I honestly cant believe that they haven't really posted anything concrete about the game now in weeks. It's really a shame. I love the game and I want to stay intrigued...There are so many possibilities with updates they could make to the game, I just wish they would fucking say something because I feel that even people who love the game like me are starting to feel left out.

ToneyARG · 15時間前

I'm still waiting for an explanation on why they said people couldn't see each other due to server issues, instead of the truth: there's no code for it. Now don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about Multiplayer, I just don't like it when anyone insults my intelligence.

Sao_Gage · 15時間前

I 100% believe with proper and honest communication, the backlash this game spawned could have been 90% mitigated. Sure, they may have sold less initially (probably what they were fearing), but word of mouth and reputation would have been far more generous and understanding.

This whole controversy is representative of the fact that gamers feel fucked over.

WykkydGaming · 15時間前

I'm fairly certain they're in disaster recovery mode right now, which likely includes being extremely careful with what they say publicly. There may even be backlash from their publisher (Sony) over things they've said publicly, which would make any communication from them much more strictly guided and filtered.

While I would also love to hear more about what is, or isn't, going on I don't think we will until the dust settles.

gronbek · 17時間前

Agree 100% There simply need to be a state fo the game like most serious companies do

Netherscourge · 12時間前

The lack of communication is shocking.

I seriously wonder if Sean thinks the game is fine as-is?

Even if you fix all the performance bugs, the game is as shallow as any game I've ever played.

There's nothing to do in this game except upgrade your suit/ship/gun, which you can do in 3 days.

This is NOT worth $60. I don't blame anyone for asking for a refund. I don't even know why I'm still holding out hope at this point.

4LBER7-EINS7EIN · 11時間前

Sean Murray's mind was literally blown because of the amount of players who bought the game. This is the real reason why they can't communicate.

PhaedrusPollux · 12時間前

I'm in the same boat as you mate. Followed this game very closely over the past two years and noticed the narrowing of mentioned features leading up to launch. Heck watched Seans interview so many times I correctly guessed what was at center 6 months ago. Three days after launch I had a mental list of what was missing and the only thing that didn't show in the cut post was the 2001 a pace Oddessy intro. I posted and reiterated a known bug today on reddit and had some hostility come my way even though I 'm huge supporter H.G. Then it hit me whos responsible. H.G! In the absense of any communication even the fans are tearing shreds off of each other in the vaccum. I am patient person but I'm really getting tired of this fiasco b.s. This crap line about H.G being in a double bind when it comes to speaking up is irresponible. The media and the fan base aren't H.G's PR. department. All thats left now is speculation in a void.

gronbek · 16時間前

the more time that passes with silence the more people will Think this game is abandoned

ThatTaffer · 11時間前

Seriously. I am glad this message is finally getting out without the downvote brigade smashing this sensible opinion into the dust. We only want to know wtf is going on

dragonmcmx · 16時間前

I think they're afraid of saying anything since any planned content updates and additions are probably very unstable right now and they don't know when or if they will be able to fully implement them. They've realized that they made a huge mistake by failing to deliver on dozens of promises they made in the past, so they're extra careful now.

Wayzegoose · 14時間前

Why would we believe whatever they tell us now?

Milwaukee33 · 15時間前

You must not know about a company called Niantic then. The silence is deafening

MrBagooo · 10時間前

If one gets salty about having wasted 60$ on this game just think of /u/daymeeuhn who spent 1300$ on it just to get it 2 weeks before release. I wonder why no one talks about him anymore. People said he was a crazy guy and we could not trust what he wrote early about the game. Turns out he wasn't that crazy and actually right about all the shortcomings.

YellowPinky · 17時間前

If there are plans to add content to realise the games potential like what we were expecting it will be drip fed and as as a whole feel underwhelming. I dont believe it will stop player burn out.

But hear me out.

Im coming back to this game in twelve months, hopefully for a big dollop of surprise fresh content. Start anew, praying a game will be there and not a post card simulator it is now.

Spicy-Legato · 11時間前

I've actually searched for answers from HG regarding upcoming fixes and stuff, but all I ever find is Murray's cryptic tweets from launch.

chuckq4yoo · 16時間前

Either this game is dead or they're gonna come out with a huge patch

Jerkamiah · 13時間前

At this point, their total silence is louder and more meaningful than anything they could have said. Saying nothing means they are accountable for nothing.

They could do absolutely nothing from this point. The game runs, plenty of people like it. They don't have to do anything more.

Does anyone know about Legends of the Sword Coast? Released last month on PS4. I was hyped for that game for more than a year. The studio was really ambitious, talented and had a lot of great features planned. It released with a ton of bugs and features missing. They issued a couple patches and when people were waiting to hear from the devs, the only announcement was they were shutting down. Game will never be complete.

Legends of the Sword Coast is still fun, and the single player is playable, but the multiplayer and the full vision will never be complete. No more bugs will be patched. It is what it is. I am bummed but they only charged $20 and I believe that it why the backlash is nowhere near NMS levels.

On the other hand, look at BF4. It was a mess when it launched. 2 years later it is an incredible game that is 10 times better than the launch version.

Nothing stops NMS from becoming my next let down. I check this sub everyday hoping they break silence and talk about their 2 year plan. Everyday that goes by its seems more likely I need to put my hopes to bed.

jdym00 · 14時間前

PR guy is on a date with the Niantic guy

Tulanol · 12時間前

Agreed the less they talk the more it looks like they are just taking the money and running. I do realize they are not a big studio and I am glad they are patching and tweeting about it.

But I think they should be communicating better than this........

epichuntarz · 12時間前

I preordered the Limited Edition game for PS4. I've been willing to sit on my hands for a while now and wait.

I can log in without the game crashing! YAY! But you know what? This isn't an MMO-it's quite frankly appalling that a non-multiplayer game shipped so buggy.

I knew what I was getting when I bought the game. SO FAR, the game has met my expectations, and I have no plans to return the game.

However, I can definitely get on board with the idea that HG needs to start communicating.

The mere fact that they've FLOATED the idea of paid content turns me off A LOT. I don't think there's anything they could do right now to convince me to spend another penny on their content.

I don't hate NMS. I rather like it...but I do get where a lot of the complaints are coming from. I want to know their plans going forward. I just want the silence broken.

ToniT800 · 10時間前

According to this graph, we will have less then 1000 players by the end of this week. That is less then 0.5 % of initial number...in just two weeks... That is disaster. https://steamdb.info/app/275850/graphs/

StupidHumanSuit · 11時間前

They're rolling in money.

They don't care. If they cared, they'd release a statement. They didn't care when PC was broken, they don't care if they lose 20% of their player base. They just don't care.

I wonder what the numbers of returns are. I know Steam opened up an "indefinite" return for this game. PS4 was a little more involved but not hard.

They don't care. They're rich. All of them are individually wealthy now.

All they have to do is release a statement. 10 sentences would get them at least some good will.

"We're sorry we didn't deliver exactly what we promised. Rest assured, we are working around the clock to implement some of the features the community has requested. We're a small team, but we are not going to leave our loyal fans in the dark. We apologize for our lack of communication, we'll strive to do better in the future. Thanks."

Destiny devs have been all over social media since launch. They've explained their process. They've even apologized. We know why Destiny isn't the game that was promised. I still played hundreds of hours. Hello Games should take a page from that playback. They'd get a lot of support.

But... They're rich. They're rich and I don't think they have anything on the horizon to rectify the glaring issues. They're rich and that's all that matters to them.

Menial_Tasking · 12時間前

It's too late. They fucked their flagship and betrayed their client base off the bat.

I will never buy anything from HG again.

SamsungVR_User · 13時間前

Took the money and ran! Seriously, this guys will probably move back to Australia in exile.

Roninjinn · 16時間前

Communication would be nice. The problem is that you've got a game developer acting as a PR rep, so they'll probably not handle this even remotely as it should be handled. I'm still enjoying the game, and I'll have it sit on the back burner like many other games that I go back to every couple of months to see how they've changed... Rust, DayZ, Prison Architect, etc.etc. But at least those teams keep communication open and constantly update on how things are going, where they're headed, and rough timelines for expectations to be set correctly. I'm surprised HG just went silent... but then again, a dev as your PR rep, I guess I shouldn't be.

sfsdfd · 12時間前

Here's something that occurred to me the other day.

Take Skyrim, and remove four things:

(1) All of the NPCs except for shopkeepers, and a few minor characters whose only impact is to give you a single key to unlock some loot and a pointless bonus area.

(2) Every challenging enemy, including all of the dragons.

(3) All of the quests but two, both of which are basically: "Go here."

(4) Most of the intentional landscape-crafting, including cities. Leave the generic wilderness, including broad territorial variation - but remove the most dramatic and interesting elements.

What you would have is a nice Norse-fantasy game sandbox. It's got animals and vehicles; items, and resources, and crafting; skills and experience; houses that you can customize; and books with some lore. It's got wide-open territory and some lightweight dungeon exploration and questing.

It would be a beautiful engine. You'd enjoy exploring for a while to see what it's capable of generating. It would be fun to experiment with different weapons and spells, and gather materials for crafting, and build up skills.

But very quickly, it would feel remarkably empty - because there's no challenge. What's the point of leveling up to higher-level spells, when no threat is challenging enough to require it? Once you understand how the systems work and can survive any challenge, there is absolutely no point in buffing your character. Once you've seen some of each territory, there's nothing left to explore: it's all more of the same.

People would've said: "Oh, Skyrim? Yeah, that was fun, but I just lost interest after a while." Its user base would surge, and quickly vanish once the novelty wore off.

In the chronicles of gaming history, Skyrim would've been written off as an interesting concept.

Pr0t3st3d · 12時間前

So many of you fell for my ruse!

Wow!

Jerco49 · 10時間前

Same lack of communication happened to Pokemon Go as well and look where it is now. I'm afraid if they don't speak up soon this game will tank tremendously in the near future.

decker12 · 13時間前

With every day that goes by and we hear nothing of substance from HG, they're destroying any credibility their studio has.

Who knows, maybe this was supposed to be a one-and-done "Make one game and if it does well we all retire" type of thing. After this fiasco nobody is going to buy into anything they say about anything new they're developing.

spiritbx · 13時間前

I can't wait for this game to come out of alpha...

Fhane · 12時間前

Unless they knew this was gonna happen

eskachig · 10時間前

If I was Sean, right now I'd be taking a long vacation at a resort that doesn't have cell service. And if you want HG to salvage something more out of this launch, that's exactly where he should be. However you feel about the game, dude's obviously been under intense pressure.

SquashyO · 10時間前

Yeh, I've moved on already, haven't played for a few days. Not really intending to go back. Just going to use it as a lesson learned.

Not really going to trust Sean Murray or hello games with another title until a few months after release.

NeedHelpWithExcel · 11時間前

This is exactly the reason I requested a refund on the game.

2 weeks have gone by and not a single fucking word.

joshua240597 · 17時間前

i think their lawyer told them to shut the hell up and not to post cryptic emote on twitter

RashFever · 12時間前

I have already lost interest in the game and started playing Bioshock Infinite (a fucking MASTERPIECE, second only to The Witcher 3 imo).

With No Man's Sky I had the worst gaming experience ever. I'm only keeping it for the mods.

ozymandias21 · 14時間前

I'm not ashamed to say that I returned this game. I will buy it again at a discounted price maybe if they change it substantially. The way HG has been avoiding responding to everything is honestly very disappointing.

TitoOliveira · 13時間前

Yeah.
After playing it for a few hours i tried ask for a refund and did not get one. My plan now is to forget about this game and maybe in the future look it up to see if it has evolved, and if that is good enough i'll give it another try.
Unfortunately i have to be selective with what titles i'll play deeply as time is not on my side. It took me a year to finish Witcher 3 without playing anything else, and i was planning on having NMS as the next title. Since it really let me down i made Dark Souls my next game. When i'm done with it i'll look NMS up again.

killernot · 13時間前

They can't. Because employees are on vacation.

Stormo130 · 12時間前

I'm still getting crashes after about an hour of play. It's just not worth my time anymore.

I'm just gunna have to put the game down and play it when it's actually complete - not just bugs, but also the features. As you mentioned, there's lots of games coming out soon that I'd rather sink my time into.

jmacrosof · 12時間前

I honestly don't have that many gripes about the game. However, (pause for effect) this is the one thing that has truly rubbed me the wrong way. They haven't said a word about anything other than the fact they are working on fixes. I'm sure the studio is a shit show right now trying to fix all the issues, but it would literally only take a few minutes to tweet and address certain things that the majority of people are asking about.

Robrob1996 · 12時間前

I've already moved and I won't go back. I got a refund from Sony. I enjoyed the first 12 hours but after that it was very grindy and boring. I'll buy it next year or so when it's around $20, I had faith in HG and I let my hype get the best of me.

VirtualRy · 11時間前

They are going to do some "minor text fixes" on the next big update. =)

psn_mordax · 10時間前

My hope is that they are laying low, building a project plan, figuring out what's feasible and then announcing a roadmap. Given how quickly they turned out patches after launch, they probably needed a breather. They also likely need to see where their coffers lie, given the amount of refunding being requested and/or granted. It's unlikely they will see a lot of NEW customers after all, unless the knock it out of the park.

Side note : I appreciate that they are victims of hype, and that they failed to deliver on said hype. But, as I understand it, when they lay in bed with Sony to get this on PS4, and Sony offered devs and finance, Hello Games chose hype instead. The whole mess they've made is likely the bed they made for themselves.

BlameAdderall · 10時間前

Wasn't the marketing and PR for the game mainly handled by Sony as part of the agreement for Sony's console exclusivity? I would be pointing my fingers at Sony for all of the false claims and misrepresentation of the game if that's true. Not so much the game development company that has never made a game anywhere close to this scale before.

A multi-billion dollar corporation who supposedly handled the marketing for this game should be much more liable than a very small indie game developer for the misrepresentation that some people are legitimately calling full on False Advertising, in my opinion. However, I do agree that HG should come out and make a statement on the situation and reveal some sort of roadmap/plan for the game. With all the new games coming out, people will be finding better things to spend their time on than exploring the 15.8 quintillion almost-the-same-few planets in the game. The game needs content.

Guppy-Warrior · 10時間前

They need to make a statement fast because I'm just about to sell my game on Craigslist. I played it, never got to the center, but who the fuck cares right? Exploring planets is coolish. except I see the same shit ALL THE TIME. Same looking trees, same gum drop hopping animals, same stalagmite formations

phatal808 · 9時間前

To me this is HG's biggest issue. Their communication is horrible basically non existent.

cha_bu_duo · 12時間前

Why though? They got your money, nobody is buying the game anymore, and people who bought it aren't even playing anymore.

Everyone got scammed and you can either play the game as it is, or not. But it won't get any better than this.

PS2Errol · 15時間前

I'm eagerly awaiting their roadmap for the planned updates and development of the game.

mAgiks87 · 14時間前

It's pathetic how many organisations (small and large) don't communicate properly with their customers. It's understable that Sean got an unhealthly amount of abuse from unhappy customers and probably gave up on communicating.

But it isn't the right way to handle situations like these. Epic's mods also had to withstand quite a bit of pressure from unhappy players and stopped answering people's questions.

Are we fucking children? This is business guys, so behave like businesspeople. If people verbally abuse you; ban or report them, but there are 10 times more people who sincerely look forward your words and information.

For me personally, companies that don't communicate don't respect their customers.

PS. Unless it's what they want: get rich scamming, then let people forget about the scam.

englandgreen · 12時間前

Sadly, this fiasco is worse for those of us that pre-ordered the game. I pre-ordered the Limited Edition for myself, and 2 Standard Editions for my brother and my best friend.

There was no way for me to be "an informed consumer" if I pre-ordered the game based on what was promised, repeatedly, by Hello Games and by Sony. Even up to 1 week before launch with the '4 Pillars' deceptive trailers.

Had Hello Games come clean and stated that what was promised was not in the game at launch because of time/money/resources etc., the backlash would have been more subdued, I believe. Certainly, I would have understood that games change and would have been patient with free DLCs down the road.

Most of us are annoyed (angry) over that, more than anything else. There was no pre-release press reviews (Hello Games refused to allow that) and except for the so called leaked information of early gameplay, there was no way of knowing that the game that was promised was not the game that was delivered.

It was lose/lose if you pre-ordered in good faith.

Sadly, the only losers were gamers and the gaming community, as Hello Games & Sony laughed all the way to the bank.

chiaestevez · 14時間前

I personally have put down the game until they fix the hyperdrive glitch...scared to go even further though because of the new glitches and game-breaking bullshit that awaits.

Whiterain1000 · 13時間前

It's just going to be a old fashion loot and scoot. The game itself can't even do most of what they advertised it could. There's no fixing it.

roy_3 · 12時間前

yeah, anything would've probably prevented me from requesting a refund from Amazon. oh well, $70 back in my account.

Marky122 · 12時間前

Jesus, Sean Murray's fall from grace was pretty bad.

Someone worshipped prior to release, to someone fan's now try their hardest to get refunds.

Stympel · 11時間前

Who will win the worst communicate award of all time? Nominates are pretty much Niantic and HG!

barbrady123 · 11時間前

Yup...I departed last week...and of course I initially loved the game enough that I figure "I'll be back when there's more stuff to do"...but once new games take hold...well, we know the truth...

lightrider44 · 11時間前

Talk less...

Guile more!

FISTED_BY_CHRIST · 11時間前

Bungie was quiet like this with Destiny's problems at launch and throughout the first year but eventually they really stepped up their communication. I'm hopeful that HG will do the same.

rayuki · 10時間前

Pretty sure it's done as a game really. They are going to push out patch's for fixs and a few shitty paid dlcs down the track and maybe an 'expansion' and that's it. Fully expect this to be the beginning and end of hello games as a games company.

Coruvain · 10時間前

I largely agree, but I swear to god, I will downvote each and every clickbait post title I can find.

Ant-Man · 10時間前

That'd be nice... It seems like there's a big want for a game like this one, that will actually deliver more. Are there any other games coming out that are like this genre? Space? exploration? but with more...

*Edit: if anyone cares... I found Star Citizen and Dual Universe, both look intriguing.

xtagtv · 10時間前

No real reason to. They got their money. Sales charts historically show that games only receive any substantial sales immediately after they're released. Sure they could pour a bunch of money into fixing up the game, but they would get no return. No matter how good it gets, Steam currently has 62 fucking thousand negative reviews of the game. Word of mouth about this game is so hugely bad, nobody's going to bother taking a 2nd chance on it. So the game is done.

Moke_Mur · 9時間前

Found out I can't return the game. Haven't played much. Absolutely furious.

PM_Your_8008s · 7時間前

I just feel like if they had something worth saying they would have said it already. It feels like they're just trying to sweep shit under the rug by ignoring it and acting like everything is all good.

MonkAang · 6時間前

They are a company, there is absolutely nothing they could say that wouldn't be twisted in a bad light in some way, they would be smart to say nothing and so they will.

creepzcorner · 6時間前

Pretty sure they are still trying to fix bugs. They also said they will start add more features once these bugs are squashed. Chill out and let them fix stuff first. This is the type of game you play for years... not a month.

Kalishnacough47 · 5時間前

Hello Games Ltd 79 Walnut Tree Close Guildford, ENG GU1 4UH, United Kingdom Phone: (148) 380-8189 Hello Games Ltd A privately held company in Guildford, ENG.

Call em.

mabo516 · 3時間前

At this point I dont feel like playing, I wanted it to succeed so badly and I had been waiting for years. Wish I hadn't preordered. Its repetitive now and I don't really care anymore about what im doing. I only do it to explore planets, find a cool ship and take screenshots

TheeImmortal · 2時間前

Actually no, from a PR perspective, this is actually their best move.

Letting it die down with no response kills the story. Look how fast we're starting to forget about it.

The more they respond the more they give life to the story.

To be frank, they probably have a great PR person, and his advice is spot on, starve the story of oxygen, do not respond, make it clear you're working to fix the bugs, and show that there are constant updates.

PR wise this is Machiavellian level chess play.

BlahBlahBlasphemee · 18時間前

I think the backlash has taught HG that it's best to say as little as possible

FastUnit · 12時間前

Already moving on, playing mankind divided, a game worthy of triple a. I'm never buying anything again from HG or Sean Murray.

scanning4life · 15時間前

Once they announce a content patch, nobody will be calling for their heads.

They don't need to make any such statement. It'd only exacerbate the rabble.

modshavepenisevy · 13時間前

But it's lose-lose for them, said every naive apologist ever.

RCmies · 13時間前

I like how they were like ''Hopefully after launch we will be able to communicate and get closer with the community''. Feels like they're gone a million miles further with the community. Seems like none of the devs even use twitter anymore, or tweet about the game at least.

PM_ME_FUN_STORIES · 12時間前

Holy shit ff15 is coming out soon? When?

zicovsky · 11時間前

I, as most likely many others, who were waiting for the game for years have already moved on from the game. I played and enjoyed the first few hours, up until the point (after the refund window, obviously) where you realize the game is empty and every planet is a re-hash, I didn't even have the will to update my ship and multitool.

I'm a reasonable person, I expected at least some sort of communication, or at least a high level roadmap of what's to come.

Seriously, if they implement base building (even freighters, which would be pointless to add at this point) before tackling the substantial areas, then Sean will go down as a failure to even meet Molyneux, since that guy at least delivered beloved titles back in the days.

I will not buy anything else from HG after this.

Also, after reaching the center I uninstalled it and left a negative review on Steam. Seriously, fuck you for that, Sean.

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