In case there was any doubt that the same kind of thinking that leads to one kind of bigotry leads just as easily to another:

I just got done reading the White Nationalism FAQ by Yggdrasil. It got me thinking about multi-culturalism. I think it has been good from an intellectual perspective in fostering knowledge about diversity; however it has worked very poorly in application to society. I found truth in Yggdrasil's words that whites are continually fleeing from minority settlements because the crime, culture and ideologies minorities bring with them compromises the quality of life whites strive to build for themselves.

I don't know if the benefit of knowledge of diversity multi-culturalism brings is worth all the detriments it fosters. More over, knowledge is just as easily attained via education as it is from interaction. My main fear is that a white society may not encourage education of world diversity. However, this has not been in the case of Europe where citizens have a better education than in mixed America. Would a white nation scorn the indulgence of non-white customs by its citizens?

I'm curious whether a white nation would super-cede America in the benefits it offers and the ethics it conducts as a whole. My thinking is that a society in which all people feel as brethren, are more apt to behave in a respectable manner and more mindful of the welfare of its members. This seems to be the occurrence in our segregated white communities as well as the case in Western European countries where their standard of living far exceeds America.

I'm a "liberal", a socialist. I believe in equal distribution of wealth enough so that all people can have the necessities of life, and that whatever luxury is attained after all have their base needs met, is earned with via labor. I do not feel I am to restrict the freedoms of others nor impose my religious ideology or lack there of on others. The only laws which should exist are those which guarantee viable humans their right to freedom and existence. Penalty should only be dealt out to those who restrict other's base rights via their selfish actions. This doesn't prevent me from a WN from my understanding, maybe I didn't comprehend what Yggdrasil meant in his comment that "liberals" would object to a white nation. Liberal, for me, doesn't mean the support of affirmative action or reverse racial discrimination.

The more I see White Nationalism as an endeavor into the preservation of white culture and quality of life, versus the stereotype of angry combat wearing skin heads, the more it is dawning on me: I may be a white nationalist...

So I'm asking you: what are parts of the ideology that are hard for some folks to swallow? What is it that prevents more whites from joining this ideology? Is there something I am missing? Is there some subversive element of WN ideology that I have not yet encountered? Or am I just hung up on the stigma that has been attached to it?

I am a Celt, I believe in the preservation of my culture. I wish to see the survival of my people and the quality of our life increase. If a white nation would provide this for my people, without wreaking havoc on others, than I support the notion of a white nation. Is this enough to make me a WN? Is there something else I am not getting?

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As an immigrant to America my values are at great odds from the typical citizen. I believe in traditional gender roles, prize intellect, scorn materialism, hedonism and superficiality. I have given up on dating American males, I find them boring, stupid, self-absorbed and unethical.

The last two years I have only dated fellow immigrants, or offspring of immigrants because at least they have enough ethics, intelligence and culture to keep me interested. I would perhaps change that if I found an exceedingly amazing American man, but that is HIGHLY doubtful.

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I have never, nor will I ever, date a non white. It has nothing to do with racist sentiments. It has everything to do with my not having the same goals, culture and ethics as the non-whites I have been exposed to.

Commonality and mutual respect is essential to a relationship. I don't have much in common with or much respect for most minorities males I know because they act thuggish & ignorant. I am a scholar, world traveled, with refined tastes in art and activities. How the hell can I date a drunk Latino or a gang banging African? It would be foolish of me to assert that there are not refined minorities, of course there are, but the existence of them are so far and few between that I hardly doubt I would meet one with in my life time.

More over, I am not attracted to minority males. To be VERY honest the features of minorities is hard for me to get used to. The kinky hair and ebony skin of black men is simply too foreign from my own European features, I won't even get into what they are lacking culturally. Asian men are typically small in stature which fails to incite feminine feelings in me. The eye shape also is too foreign for me. Latin men again are too dark for my tastes, and a lot of them engage in subversive activity from my experiences. Arab men & Indian men can occasionally be attractive, but for the most part they are far too thin for my tastes. Their culture is also very different than what I am accustomed to. I could never be a submissive door mat to an Arab man, nor could I respect his religion. I don't have much of a problem with Hinduism but I do have an issue with their caste mentality. Jews for me are definitely out, I could never betray my morality or sense of compassion by laying with a Zionist murderer.

I have been honest to black men's face about why I would never date them. I was told I am a racist because I was not attracted to them physically nor appreciated the "gangsta lean". Frankly, I resent being made to feel ashamed of my being attracted to males that resemble the masculine features I have grown up with: My German Father and Brothers. I think it is natural to identify attraction based on the schemas one has learned from their family. I also think it is natural to feel aversion when someone displays an extreme deviation from your moral code.

"Racist" should be limited to those who automatically hate based upon race alone. I do not think it applies in my case, nor should it be thrown at any woman who refuses a date with a minority because she feels no commonality with or attraction for them. Its almost as if men use this excuse with themselves because its less of an ego blow to believe someone is a racist than to realize your lifestyle is degenerate or you have no chance of making a woman you want be attracted to you.

Its easier to insult her than to understand and respect her feelings.

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From what I understand Che went to organize revolution in the Congo of Africa. The natives were rejecting following him, preferring to live in squalor rather than fight for their freedom. Che was so shocked and horrified that he made many statements along the lines of the Africans from the Congo being a slave population which he recorded in "A Revolutionary Life".

It should be noted however that later in life Che rejected racism, calling for Cuba to ban all racial laws. He also rescued and fought amongst many blacks in Cuba. There has always been some racist ideology in extreme leftist branches, even Engels and Karl Marx made some startling remarks concerning the blacks. "Any European in opposition to my idea is filled with negro's blood."

The militant leftist ideology is one of unification between revolutionary workers who seek to cease the abuse of peasantry. Any group of people who do not join are seen as cowardly apathetics who are enabling the atrocities and hierarchy, thus traitors.

I have always found it curious as a European how many whites in America do not support extreme leftist ideology, considering leftist militantism was born in Caucasian lands and has been the cause of all progression for our kind in western Europe (note the Peasant wars of Germany under Thomas Muentzer).

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Females have instinctual desire for a man who has alpha qualities; mainly the skills of protection and providing. Unfortunately, it takes a while to learn that the males who best maintain these skills are not the thuggish bad boys, but the hard working, strong & silent achievers. Along the way of learning this many girls foolishly squander opportunities...

There ARE women who know the difference between a man and a boy.

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Women are the cause of the fall from Eden. I can hardly call them a "gift". In my experience women tend to cause more problems than their worth. I have pretty much given up on women and become celibate.

I'm sorry that you feel this way brother. I would also like to apologize on behalf of my sisters that they failed to make you feel appreciated, loved and comforted.

Please know there are fellow women out there feeling just as scorned and alone as you. I have only recently come out of my shell after 2 years of swearing off males because I could not find an ethical & traditional MAN and the one I did trust burnt me to my core.

I won't give up hope yet though. I still have a decade of breeding left in which to give the world my beautiful white babies. Try to focus on that if you can...

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I think thats the most difficult part of affirmative action, jobs are sometimes rewarded on race or sex rather than skills. I want the best fire fighter, medic, teacher, construction worker, etc to supply my services instead of who meets the diversity quota.

As a woman I have been turned down for jobs that a man can perform better, frankly I don't get my undies in a bunch about it because a company should have more interest in getting the best employee for the job versus a tax break.

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Re: What race makes the worst neighbors?

Definitely black. Milwaukee, where I live, is pretty diverse. I have lived next to everyone from Asians to Hindus, the food smell can get funky occasionally and the noise from the funky music can sometimes be annoying but they haven't bothered me.

My black neighbors where I lived previously were horrible. EVERY TIME I waked outside one of the men from the family would come over and ask for a date. They wouldn't take no for an answer and accused me of racism when I repeatedly turned them down. They would look through my windows out of curiosity, their kids stole stuff from my garage, they left garbage all over outside, etc. I have to also admit that Whites who glorified black culture also committed acts like this. The white "gangsta hos" were extremely loud, obnoxious, slutty & violent.

Sheeesh, now that I think of it, the Mexicans were worse with music than Blacks though. Too many times on a summer morning I got woken up to La-Bamba as they drank their beer and fixed their broken down cars. 6 o'clock in the morning! Dawn was still breaking and they had the audacity to wake up the entire neighborhood like this.

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I have talked with several white women who converted to Islam. The driving force for many of them has been the return to family values preached by Islam. As all of us here know, since the cultural revolution in the western hemisphere we have been losing our traditional gender roles. Women are abandoning their children and elderly to go to work. Infidelity is extremely common along with divorce and drug abuse. Many women are having to figure out how to live in a society which condemns the role of house wife and bases the value of a female on looks and earning potential.

Many women in the west are beginning to look for ideologies which make them feel strong in reclaiming their classical role because feminism, jungle capitalism and this superficial culture make them feel inadequate or forced to pursue a life unnatural to them. They feel abandoned by western men in that they have failed to be decent providers and giving lovers (a quiet complaint many have shared with me is that western men are not dominant enough in the bedroom and often make requests for activity that compromise their masculinity).

The fellow white women I have discussed with this whole heartedly agree. White culture is churning out selfish effeminate men since the cultural revolution and they are desperate for a man who can share their traditional ideals. Even I have found this to be true concerning my experience with American men.

Perhaps WNs should begin discussing what gender roles best promotes the quality of white life. I think that is a first step to addressing this issues of unhappiness that are afflicting the western white as a plague reaching epic proportion. (With a divorce rate over 50% and the majority of kids being raised in day cares away from family values, certainly we are in danger.)

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Begone! Hermaphophroditic troll... foul metrosexual!

Begone!

What the hell? I hope this was NOT meant for me, because I am certain what my sex is and I am not confused about gender roles...