1798
1799

Political Priorities (i.imgur.com)

AsAnOccultist が 投稿

上位 200 件のコメント全て表示する 246
並べ替え:
ベスト
トップ新着論争中古い順Q&A

[–]darkflash26 144ポイント145ポイント  (115子コメント)

lol in 5 years he will be known more for sitting during the anthem than actually playing football

[–]DyestingTuck 35ポイント36ポイント  (106子コメント)

a legacy is a legacy, and a legacy on the right side of history is the best you can hope for...

[–]extratoasty 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

So... the top comments in this thread (about how anthem news item takes focus instead of real issues) are debates about disgrace of not standing for anthem.

[–]VLXS 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sometimes you just gotta say "fuck that"

[–]WilliamWaters 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't really compare Hitler to not standing while a song plays bud

[–]kb_klash 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's comparing being expected to salute something with being expected to salute something else. Sounds fair to me.

[–]TooterMcgavin716 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking of the right side of history that same people hated Mohammed Ali back in the day for the same reasons. Now they treat him like a hero and hold him up as an example.

[–]AnghellicKarma -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

the right side of history

Cringe phrase.

[–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a "right side" here?

[–]PEcoach 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are a few sports figures known better for off field stuff.

[–]Air0ck 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like O. J. Simpson and his movie career?

[–]AnimatedSnake 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is pretty good in Naked Gun!

[–]UtahStateAgnostics 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anna Kournikova.

[–]Jess_than_three 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/loate, for example.

[–]darkflash26 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i was saying he plays like shit, and is not memorable

[–]lynnangel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure that's considered a good thing if you did it to make a point.

[–]Michael70z 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He played football?!?!?

[–]indiephysics 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being an American and/or living in America does not require one to be patriotic (to America).

[–]47853lll 275ポイント276ポイント  (4子コメント)

r/im14andthisisdeep

[–]AAnthony12 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad I wasn't the only one

コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

    [–]thegrenbastard 78ポイント79ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Good meme cringe.

    [–]Optionthename 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I thought this was /r/I'm14andthisisdeep

    [–]HoldMyWater 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I don't think the Pentagon really "lost" 6.5 trillion, which is more than a third of the US GDP. As I understand it, their accounting errors totalled 6.5 trillion. So, if they took $10,000 leftover from project A and used it on project B, without accounting for it, that represents an error of $20,000.

    [–]WackyWarrior -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, they lost 6.5 trillion dollars over a long period of time. Some people made a lot of money defrauding the government through weapon designing.

    [–]Not_Reliable 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

    The pentagon didn't lose 6.5 trillion dollars. There's only about 30 trillion in the global money supply. That report saying the pentagon lost 6.5 trillion has been proven false over and over again.

    [–]Man_Fried 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    In order to understand where that number comes from you have to understand a little about how accounting works. The DoD's ending balance sheet is off by 62 billion. The DoD has thousands of accounts it tracks and many of them are subsets of other accounts so what ends up happening is that 62 billion shortfall cascades through the books getting adjusted over and over again. That 6.5 trillion is where we get that number. That is the total amount of money the books were changed by NOT the total amount of the shortfall.

    Its still absolutely despicable that that the DoD can't account for what is essentially 5% of the discretionary spending for the whole country, but the 6.8 trillion number is a disingenuous because its just used as a headline attention grabber.

    [–]Imthatjohnnie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Only 62 billion small change. Some general lost it in his sofa.

    [–]Mind43dom 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I believe there is a difference between unaccounted for and lost.

    But if you have further insight please do share.

    I know there was a lot of misappropriating of funds to sub contractors during the Iraq and Afghani wars.

    [–]3_miles_from_8_mile 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The yearly peacetime budget for the DoD is about $600B. You can add in funds that were appropriated specifically for oversea contingency operations and get to roughly $6.5T since 9/11. Prob more like $8T though.

    You know it's bullshit because if they lost the last 15 years of all funds they were appropriated how the hell did they operate?

    [–]AdrianBlake -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Per year. Total

    [–]BAN_ME_IRL 59ポイント60ポイント  (34子コメント)

    My problem with the whole Kap thing is his act of protest doesn't make any fucking sense. "I wont stand for a country that doesn't care about black lives" nigga where the fuck do you think we are?

    Do they BLM folks fly in from Argentina or some shit?

    "America" isn't a representation of local police forces. We're all American.

    I don't even consider the government "America" to me a the country is the people in it, but even if you do consider the government a representation of the country that would be the federal government and they aren't the ones killing people, they're the ones prosecuting the departments that show police misconduct.

    It just made no fucking sense to me and seemed like some edgy teenager shit.

    [–]sorator 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't disagree with you; his reasoning was... well-intentioned silliness, at best.

    But regardless of their reasoning, I still don't care whether or not someone stands for the national anthem. It doesn't fucking matter, and it's part of a cluster of kinda scarily nationalistic traditions that we really should've done away with before now, IMO.

    (Also, having stigma around not standing for any given event makes it a touch harder for folks like me who legitimately struggle with standing for any length of time for actual medical reasons; we get folks judging us for that shit because they can't see our conditions, which is obnoxious.)

    [–]suburban_rhythm 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It doesn't fucking matter, and it's part of a cluster of kinda scarily nationalistic traditions that we really should've done away with before now, IMO.

    I would hardly call it "scary nationalism". The pledge of allegiance is a lot creepier. But the idea of standing for your national anthem is a pretty universal concept. There's a big difference between showing respect in a way that is common in most places regardless of borders, and being fanatical.

    That being said, I may not agree with his decision, but he should absolutely be free to conduct himself however he chooses during the anthem - that's what America is all about.

    [–]Rosssauced 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Now if he would have refused to stand because of Harambe.

    [–]Sip_py 8ポイント9ポイント  (19子コメント)

    He wanted people to talk about black lives and police, and they are. Does it matter how he did it?

    [–]dbcspace 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He could have done a lot worse...

    He did it without interfering with NFL game play.

    He did it without interfering with anybody's commute.

    He did it without inconveniencing a single solitary person, except perhaps those who take it upon themselves to get butthurt over it.

    [–]BAN_ME_IRL 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

    It kind of does because of the association some people will make. Instead of "fuck Kap, he didn't stand for the anthem" they're thinking "fuck black lives movement. They don't stand for the anthem".

    [–]Hillbilly-Bologna 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

    No, people are talking about him

    [–]Sip_py -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Fair, but intrinsically by talking about his actions, it's keeping the issue he's concerned about in the news cycle.

    [–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

    What issue?

    [–]Sip_py 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Have you followed this at all or do you think Kap sat because he was lazy?

    [–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    So, something about "america doesn't care about racism" but that's way too vague to be factual or profound. I mean what specifically?

    [–]Sip_py 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't know, I'm not insinuating I care about his message, I zone out most media. I'm just saying the fact people are this upset means talking heads are talking about it. Just because it's lost on both of us doesn't mean it doesn't connect to other.

    [–][削除されました]  (4子コメント)

    [deleted]

      [–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Oh.

      So America is a sentient entity, and it is apathetic to all black people. Plain and simple eh

      [–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

      [deleted]

        [–]glooka 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        He could burn down a minority-owned gas station like a normal BLM protestor

        [–]Sip_py 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He'd get a pass and it wouldn't be news

        [–]kbireddit -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Crude but thought provoking.

        [–]glooka 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You would be correct.

        Not standing "becuz racists" is stupid, and getting mad at a guy for not standing is stupid.

        Stupidity all around.

        Matter of fact, im gona sit down at the next anthem to protest my country being so stupid

        [–]bluefootedpig 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        just because people have it better doesn't mean bad things aren't happening. I'm sure people in N.Korea say the same shit about dissenters. "What, you want to live in the wild jungle and get eaten by an animal? shut up and deal with our labor camps!"

        Fact is, and you can google this, for the same crimes, blacks are more likely to get a fine, more likely to get dogs called on them, more likely to go to prison, and more likely to get a longer jail sentence.

        So yeah, why don't you go back to N.Korea and talk about how great it is to have labor camps because well, it is better than some african country.

        [–]BAN_ME_IRL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What the fuck are you on about? I'm saying the avenue of protest made no sense not that the act of protest in general was wrong.

        Meanwhile some black dude in Philly will catch life for possession with intent. Absolutely no parity in sentencing in this country. - me, not even 24 hours ago.

        [–]SwayZ58 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I see more rage over him sitting during the national anthem than rapists and wife/child beaters.

        [–]jvnk 15ポイント16ポイント  (22子コメント)

        Loses 6.5 trillion? Wat? 1000's of people, wat?

        [–]VLXS 15ポイント16ポイント  (18子コメント)

        OASA(FM&C) and DFAS Indianapolis personnel did not adequately support $2.8 trillion in JV adjustments for third quarter and $6.5 trillion in JV adjustments for yearend.

        From the DoD Inspector General's annual report

        More on the same:

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-19/government-report-finds-65-trillion-taxpayer-funds-unaccounted

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/staggering-corruption-reveals-natonasa-lies-heart-pentagon

        You are right about the people killed by police being less than 1000 though. It's getting there, but not over a thousand yet.

        [–]DealArtist 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Pentagon did not lose over a trillion, poor accounting practices did not track that amount correctly, which is how they can "lose" more money than they were even allocated.

        [–]dbcspace 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

        You are right about the people killed by police being less than 1000 though. It's getting there, but not over a thousand yet.

        Whoa, now. That's slightly less than 1,000 every year. Your link shows 709 killed by police this year alone, and we still have 4 months remaining in 2016.

        There are probably at least 10,000 deaths at the hands of police since the turn of the century, and who knows how many in the 2 centuries preceding that...

        The memer saying, "Police Killing 1,000's Of People" is absolutely correct.

        [–]joecooool418 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        And the VAST majority of them are white. I should probably go burn my neighborhood down.

        [–]VLXS -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Right on. I was downplaying it to show the ridiculousness of denying the fact that police kill more people than terrorists do...

        [–]jvnk -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Forgive me for not trusting ZH's analysis of anything given their track record. Going straight to their source, it appears the that $6.5 trillion is in fact not missing and the headline is completely misleading. It looks like the DoD's own IG has uncovered massive bookkeeping failures instead, which is not the same thing as what that implies at all. This is emblematic of ZH in general and I can't say I'm surprised. Somehow the comments lead down a train of conversation to moon landing hoax conspiracy BS.

        Here's a better link to police killings. I think it's great that a previously opaque subject on the national level is getting the attention it is. Again, however, the implication is not necessarily in line with the reality. Are we really suggesting police only kill innocent people, and they go out of their way to do so?

        [–]VLXS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        "Bookkeepin failures" of this magnitude (again, we are talking about $6.5 TRILLION) would put anyone on the planet in jail for life. Except, apparently, for the accountants of the DoD.

        Spin it however you like, but it's a complete shit show.

        [–]jvnk -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The only spin that I see here is "$6.5 trillion in taxpayer funds unaccounted for". Don't mistake my correction of a blatantly clickbait headline(and thus, another factual inaccuracy in the above meme) for downplaying the significance of the IG's findings.

        [–]WiredSky 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        About one thousand people are killed a year by police in this country.

        [–]jvnk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What's your point? For a country of around 320 million that seems pretty low.

        [–]PuffsPlusArmada 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Rage comics? Fuck off.

        [–]San_Fran_Dan 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

        As the topic is misplaced rage, it doesn't seem so out of place to me.

        [–]mikesername 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        THOUSANDS DEAD IN BRUTAL POLICE JIHAD ATTACK

        [–]spergery 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

        This is embarrassing, OP.

        [–]WhiteOrca 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about this?

        [–]jiveturkey38 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What a dank meme

        [–]beefsleaves 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Are you saying no one protested the cop shootings? Are you saying there is no BLM?

        [–]AdrianBlake 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think it's more that the people getting in a huff over this don't seem to care about the others.

        [–]Holyhitman173 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        The police has killed thousands?

        [–]NotExecutable 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        According to the Wikipedia, it's 1150 kills by law enforcement in the US in 2015. Source

        Compare that to say, Germany's ~5001 kills by the Police from 1978 - 2014. Source. And 7 in 2014 (Source). I'd guess other european countries compare similarly, it's just that I'm more familiar with the German numbers (I read a lot of reports on that for other discussions).

        Even if you adjust for the population (320 million vs. 80 million), the US kills quite a lot more people.

        Edit: I also read some arguments for why US Officers kill more people and some of it makes sense. For example: European officers usually don't encounter criminals with firearms. They are not threatened as often, so they don't have to respond with deadly force as often. Among other things.

        I think you have a problem, but it's a complex issue with no easy solution.

        1 Disputed number. Some newspapers, like the Spiegel says it's higher than than

        [–]LawHelmet 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        This makes logical and emotional sense.

        Don't fuck with the masses' escapism.

        It's all we have

        [–]santacruisin 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You're right, Kap is politicizing something that Americans like to pretend is apolitical. "Sports bring people together." Meanwhile team owners are funding Trump's campaign, strong-arming cities and facilitating systemic brain damage.

        Lets go 9ers!

        [–]tyzan11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That's because the government suppresses outrage over a lot of shit. If you haven't been paying attention recently there is more government corruption getting unveiled almost weekly now. All those trillions probably went to pay off underhanded deals while outrage over not standing for the anthem is getting amplified because it's a non-issue to distract us from everything else. As for cops shooting people if you read the public record police reports than you realise that it's almost always justified. Yes one is too much but it's not nearly as horrifying as people say it is.

        Another factor is people feel helpless over government corruption and police brutality, put the anthem thing is a single person's action. It's much easier to be outraged when you know who is to blame.

        [–]poison_2345 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Last year they fell just short of a prison that separates the rapists and wife/child beaters.

        [–]P00Ned355 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think it's more that the DoD Inspector General's annual report.

        [–]TaintedTango 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Where those people armed? Where they Resisting arrest at the time of there supposed murder? I do concede that American cops have on occasion murdered some citizens randomly, But the cop themselves have been unstable in these incidents. Every other time the person been arrested has been acting erratically and aggressive.

        The narrative that Cops are on a killing spree is just tiring now.

        [–]BonerGuy69420 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        r/im14andthisisdeep

        [–]OrangeDoors 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        /r/im14andthisisdeep

        [–]F90 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        https://scontent.fsjo1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14100321_662457920569776_430393316009662122_n.jpg?oh=e51c6d4da8ea5847066a71da41d9322e&oe=5844E2A9

        [–]LarGand69 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        His career is in a shithole...so why not manufacture a controversy to place the blame on when hes out of the nfl not playing at all or playing for a two bit semi pro team.

        [–]Fixn -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Boy, i hear about thoes cops executing 1000s of people a year. :V

        Glad to see cring stupidity is still humor. If this was serious, id be worried.

        [–]jfk_47 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Do I see a resurgence in rage comics?

        [–]reincarN8ed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Big deal. I don't always stand for the national anthem. We have a hard-on for the Star Spangled Banner, we play it before every single sporting event, but does anyone have it saved on Spotify? No.

        [–]btwncleansheets 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'm not the biggest fan of these posts because it over simplifies to the point where it's wrong, even if it's making the point you want it to. But I do get that point it's trying to make. My response is that if anyone wants to look down their noses at the people outraged at kaepernick's political statement they should partly blame the media for pumping the public with that same, over simplified information instead of the more complicated issues listed above. Hey, the loudest aren't usually the smartest. They also rely on the news to tell them what's important. It's easier for a low-information citizen to have an opinion on standing for the anthem than it is for them to have a discussion on how the "1000's of people" killed are all different scenarios that aren't necessarily all bad, and that the larger issues of "police brutality" is more about how minorities shouldn't harbor fear when they interact with cops, they should feel safe like the rest of us do (imo).

        [–]revroe -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Police killing people that may fight back or ruin their own communities.

        [–]Luposetscientia -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        This ruined my morning Reddit & poo. Thanks dumbass

        [–]staticsnake -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        There are groups that get angry over all three of these issues. Your anecdotes don't take precedence over reality.

        [–]Kneegroez -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Police killing (((1000s)))

        [–]deucezwild -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I see more rage over him sitting during the anthem than rapists and wife/child beaters.

        [–]knightsofrnew -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The whole point of getting angry at the athlete is that he is black and muslim, this gives the Trump supporters an excuse to spew hate against a black and a muslim while confortably hiding behing the "patriotism excuse"

        [–]thenight258 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I can't think of a prison that separates the rapists and wife/child beaters.

        [–]Lots42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ALL american prisons sperate the child beaters you dingus.

        [–]joecooool418 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Well, the pentagon didn't lose 6.5 trillion and the police are not killing thousands of people so the whole post is bullshit.

        [–]Mnementh2230 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

        pentagon didn't lose 6.5 trillion

        ORLY? If you can't account for it, you don't know what happened to it.

        police are not killing thousands of people

        That depends on the timeframe you want to look at. Last year they fell just short of a thousand - and yes, many of those were deserved, but that's not the point.

        Edit: copy/paste error

        [–]sherms89 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Fuck that guy

        コメントをもっと表示する (7 返事)