Why MGTOW Is More Eeffective Than MRAs

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  • #291461
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    Murph
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    I can appreciate the intentions of MRAs by exposing feminist hypocrisy and wanting to change laws that treat fathers as walking ATM machines. The problem is, they haven’t really accomplished anything. The second they are confronted by feminists, they seem to fold up like tinfoil. If anything, they seem to be bent on getting things back towards traditionalism, and that was a shit deal for men that I want no part of.

    If you want to hurt ANY institution that marginalizes you, the most effective way of doing that is always this: HIT THEM IN THEIR POCKETBOOK! That is exactly what MGTOW does. It starves the gynocentric system by not taking part in it. In order for the gynocentric system to survive, it depends on men being willing participants in it. Simps and manginas are the cogs that keep the system going like a well-oiled machine. MGTOW, on the other hand, throw a wrench in that machine. The fewer men that are willing to take part in that system, the heavier the financial burden becomes on the government to keep that system running. With an increasing number of single moms relying on big daddy government to pickup the tab, the government is getting more desperate to keep the financial burden on men. That’s why men are now being forced to pay child support for children that are not theirs. Even this will fail in the long run, because it will only prove the dangers of getting involved with women and create more red pill men.

    You can’t appeal to a system that depends on you being a disposable for its survival and think you are going to get change by asking it to treat you fairly, but you can walk away from it.

    #291464
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    Tuneout
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    All the MRA cry babies are doing is making fools of them

    selves and giving the femnazis the emotional drama they

    crave.

    Nobody esp Govt’s take them seriously,we on the other

    hand with our passive resistance strategy of non

    participation are seen as a real threat to the

    establishment and it’s cronies.

    Only look back to see how far you've come

    #291467
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    Solomon’s Wisdom
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    I think the fundamental difference is MGTOW want to be LEFT ALONE. MRA’s want attention — JUST LIKE WOMEN.

    Though I have searched repeatedly, I have not found what I was looking for. Only one out of a thousand men is virtuous, but not one woman! Ecclesiastes 7: 28.

    #291468
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    Darksith
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    A Men’s rights organization has the same problem as a women’s rights organization.

    You don’t have the right. Even if you think you do, being right about rights doesn’t make you right.

    What matters to them is the application of force to get what they want. That is always wrong.

    All you can do is guide the devastation....

    #291472
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    No
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    MRA requires effort and action.

    Mgtow has a man having an easy life with no effort.

    Doing nothing is doing something quite big.

    No dating,
    Not marrying,
    Not having kids…

    SAVES A MAN OVER ONE MILLON DOLLARS OVER HIS LIFE.

    My longtime pal spent 250k in his divorce.

    Expect attacks because mgtow is the big disrupter.

    When cornered…just play dumb.

    Be a nice quiet respectful man whom shares not a thought… If you really are going your own way, do it quietly.

    They have shit.

    Never trust anyone.

    Mangima seeking pussy points will betray you.

    MGTOW…THE ANSWER TO THE MURDERING CULT OF GLOBAL FEMINISM.

    Mgtow of the Month: Varun for mastering the word NO. You do NOT hate women. They just ARE. Free your mind and focus on YOU. After red pill rage resolves comes peace and happiness. MGTOW TRUTH! ZERO HATE, PURE PEACE. Restarting Your Life MGTOW SUMMARY: THE BIG PICTURE, Why MGTOW?

    #291473
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    Uintatherium
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    Most of what you guys are saying is true.

    MGTOW is also very importance due to the existence of Monk Mode.

    In order to be a good MGTOW, you need to stick by your standards. In order to do that, you need to remember that sex is not a need. It is a want. Sex is not a divine thing. It’s just another thing that people do for fun. Sex is no more holy than video games.

    MGTOW Monk Mode is a beautiful think that cures men who think that sex is a need. MRAs almost never describe Monk Mode. They are too busy fighting for a world in which women are nice. This world can never exist because it is against the fundamental nature of women.

    Women are cruel. That will never change because it can never change. Deal with it.

    #291479
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    Boar
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    Since All Women Are Like That (which includes being parasitic attention whores) any form of attention feeds them. That is why MGTOW is so effective: we refuse to be hosts!

    #291492
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    RASman
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    MRAs are embarrassing; they whine and beg for a court to grant them the rights that God gave them and women have taken away. MGTOWs just pack their rights in their old kit bag and go their own way.

    Who is John Galt?

    #291493
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    TaxGuy
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    Here’s the best thing about MGTOW. All it tells the women is that they screwed up, if they choose to notice. It doesn’t tell them where or how they screwed up, just that they screwed up. MRA’s point their finger at what they want changed and do all of the work for the women. It allows them to continue the age old problem where women sit back and make / let men do all the heavy lifting. MRA’s will go out and do all of the work, and then the women can just agree / disagree with them.

    MGTOW forces them to figure it out for themselves. The car won’t start anymore, YOU lift up the hood and figure it out. IF they want the slave back on the plantation, then THEY need to figure out what is wrong with the plantation. And then they need to build up enough trust for guys to want to go back. That’s a long, hard road. As I’ve said before, I won’t be holding my breath.

    Funny, usually women sit back and make men do all the work. The one time they got off their butt and did something (feminism) they failed miserably.

    I'm just a guy whose a guy being a guy

    #291497
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    FrostByte
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    MGTOW works better than MRA because it appeals to the true nature of man. MRA and Feminism are herd mentalities and not many men want to be part of any herd. We are like most alpha males in the mammal species – we walk alone until there is a benefit to being united. We don’t want to scream and push and shove and carry stupid signs or dress like fools. We work better in the shadows guiding brothers to a better way for themselves with logic, while slowly pulling out the pinions & gears from the machine, one man at a time. Ironically Ayn Rand (a woman) had the most to say about this effective technique of social rebellion.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #291513
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    Lurch
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    The MRA’s are engaging in a pointless argument with the Feminazis… since you can’t argue with CRAZY!

    MGTOW got it right… the only winning move is not to play! It was true in War Games, back in 1983… and it’s true today.

    #291537
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    aeragoan
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    Mgtow preserves self dignity

    MRA still looking for womens validation

    #291539
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    Old Sage
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    Mra’s Have no affect on supply and demand. We do.

    #291544
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    GoneFishin’
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    MRAs and RadFems are allies, providing the thesis/antithesis to establish a Hegelian Dialectic “debate” on topics applying Material Dialectic principles to move the Overton Window towards synthesis.

    #291558
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    Machiavelli
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    MRA is counterproductive. It gives women the ‘attention’, ‘status’ etc they are craving and allows them to accuse the men of ‘misogyny’ ‘aggression’ ‘woman hating’ etc

    MRA is asking women and the government for permission for our rights and needs. Fuck that. Men don’t have to ask women, the government or anyone else to be able to put their own needs first. Just do it.

    Mgtow gives men their rights instantly; no more custody rape, no more marriage rape, no more false accusations of domestic violence, your money your choice. And mgtow saves lives. Mgtow is an elegant solution to a society that gives no fucks about men, it just returns the favour and gives no fucks back

    We have no demands to present to you, no terms to bargain about, no compromise to reach. You have nothing to offer us. We do not need you.

    #291584

    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    MGTOW teach prevention which is so much more effective. To argue it after the fact is pointless. Even if they come to some “agreement” it’s still bullshit.

    “OK, we won’t fuck you over SO badly. You can still visit your kids.”.

    Gee, thanks.

    NO. GET THE STATE/COURTS THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLE’S PERSONAL LIVES, OR MGTOW WILL MAKE SURE THEY WON’T GET ONE FOOT IN THE DOOR.

    Negotiating for better marriage laws is still permitting them to have any say in the matter. Deny them that. Governments don’t negotiate with terrorists, so why would a man?? If I choose to end a personal relationship and I don’t like her anymore, that is the final end of it. There will be no “court”. There will be no discussion. There will be no judge” ordering me to PAY HER a monthly check TO FUCK OFF. She is out, or I will get myself out. The end.

    “Well that won’t work, because what about the kids?”

    As a woman, you don’t get to pretend you give a FUCK about the kids. You only give a fuck about yourself. You only wanted kids so you could get you claws into is wallet. You schemed behind his back to do it, and now everybody knows it. Women don’t give a fuck about the kids and they sure as fuck don’t care about the men. So men will now return the same courtesy. The goal of marriage is to STAY MARRIED. Why does a court of law force its way into your living room to divide you rather than keep families together? If you can’t even negotiate with the woman who once vowed to “love” you, then you married the wrong bitch. MGTOW solves that problem too.”

    The courts permit women to be terrible mothers and wives and steal children from fathers for profit. And the divorce attorneys are happy to do it!

    MRAs are as useless as tits on a bull.

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    You don’t even need to be an “activist”.
    Just a simple “no” is all that’s required.

    “We need to talk!!!”.

    “No, you need to LEAVE. There’s the door”.

    Put it to them like that, and “the issue” exists no longer.
    MGTOW actually works.

    If you try to push a man around enough.... eventually, *around* becomes *away*.
    #291594

    joetech
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    The impression I’m getting is that the MGTOW’s are like the black panthers of the civil rights movement. Basically, no more Mr. nice guy. The MRA’s are more like the rest of the NAACP…changing laws and stuff. But, I agree that changing laws alone is not the answer. How laws are applied is more important, and that speaks to what society calls it’s norms. I fear we’ll see bloodshed on a massive scale before we really get anywhere.

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