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What America’s ‘alt-right’ movement wants and what makes it different (thestar.com)

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[–]propshaft -3ポイント-2ポイント  (25子コメント)

What Is the Alt-Right?

[–]Yosoff[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (24子コメント)

Read the article, you might learn something.

[–]propshaft -5ポイント-4ポイント  (23子コメント)

One thing I am leaning the past few days is that there are a bunch of hateful intolerant bigots on here.

Why is it YOUR opinion is superior to mine ?

Who made you zod ?

Unlike you I am long past being through with being told I am guilty of crimes I never committed because of my race, and that I am somehow responsible for all the worlds problems.

Then I find myself surrounded by people telling me I am wrong for supporting someone who is willing to fight against those who accuse us of all of the above DAILY !

And you tell me it will make us 'look bad'..

TO WHO ??

You mean the people who hail "ONLY black lives matter" and proudly introduce the 'black panthers' ?

The people who tell us islam is the religion of peace its Christians who are evil, and we are WRONG if we believe otherwise.

The people who tell us we are racist if we do not agree with obama's political ideology ?

I find that rather ridiculous to believe we will look bad when they do the above with absolutely no repercussions.

You can keep right on letting the left kick you in the balls and rule your life if that is what you want, I on the other hand refuse to allow it.

[–]Howard_Roark7 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

One thing I am leaning the past few days is that there are a bunch of hateful intolerant bigots on here.

Which is hilarious seeing as the alt right is a Euro-Supremacist group who actually believe that conservatives are cucks to their nation.

Your own video that you posted just straight up shows racist sentiment that is at complete and total odds with conservative principles. You said the enemy of my enemy is my friend to my post the other day. That is bullshit logic when the end goals are at complete odds with each other. We conservatives believe in individual sovereignty as the highest goal and the thing that all laws and principles should strive for. Because of this, we believe that the constitution isa document that allows us to be individually free, but because of progressive laws, we no longer are. This movements end goal is to have a euro nationalist state populated by mostly, if not only, whites. This is a completely wrong way to think, especially as a conservative seeing as we believe that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. If this is a true fact, which it is, then any idea of gentile ethnic cleansing is at complete odds with our beliefs because we believe the character and ideas of the individual are what have value rather than the race of the individual.

Stop defending them because there is no defense. They are wrong in their ideology and must be stopped as much as progressives should.

[–]DEYoungRepublicans 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is a completely wrong way to think, especially as a conservative seeing as we believe that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

Agreed. Anyone can take it on their own initiative to learn, to create, and to make a new life in the United States of America - regardless of ethnicity.

This literally goes back to eugenics, slavery, and other horrible ideas that have plagued the human race throughout the ages.

[–]Howard_Roark7 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Race literally doesnt matter. All that matters is content of character, the ideas and beliefs of that individual.

[–]Yosoff[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (19子コメント)

Why is it YOUR opinion is superior to mine ?

MY opinion is an informed opinion, yours is not.

[–]propshaft -3ポイント-2ポイント  (18子コメント)

MY opinion is an informed opinion, yours is not.

My opinion is my own, just as is YOURS.

The difference between us is you arrogantly believe only yours matters , and ONLY yours is right, and any who disagree is wrong PERIOD.

[–]IronPathologistFree to Choose 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

Jesus, propshaft. Pick a different hill to die on, man. The Constitution is under attack, and you're defending a bunch of Internet trolls and white nationalists.

The_Donald isn't some sort of great bastion of informed thought that we should be taking in in its entirety and calling our own, and that's the *good part of the Alt-right... These are people who expressly want an overreaching executive, more deficit spending, an end to free trade and the free market, and who genuinely believe that it's the government's job to prop up jobs (just like Obama tells them to think). This isn't conservatism, and fighting the left!s racial idiocy with more of our own isn't the solution.

And you can be pro-Donald and anti-The_Donald

[–]Howard_Roark7 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

You forgot the fact that they want a euro-supremacist state dominated by mostly white people. It is at complete odds with what conservatives actually believe being that the character and ideas of the individual are what matter, not what race or skin color they are. They also single out great conservatives like Ben Shapiro as being the destruction of America solely because he is Jewish and identify him as not western. Welcome to the start of Nazi Germany.

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Welcome to the start of Nazi Germany.

And there it is the NAZI card !

BTW, who the hell are you ?

Another nevertrump recruit I am guessing ?

I like how you nt's throw around 'conservative principles' like you and only you are allowed to adjudicate what they are and who is following them correctly.

Who the hell made you zod ?

I also notice that those 'principles' you herald must say its fine and dandy to allow one of the most corrupt and vindictive hate filled politicians who openly proclaims their intent to trash the constitution to waltz into the oval office unhindered by your vote for her opponent.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Preach your bullshit to someone stupid enough to listen, you have no audience here.

[–]Howard_Roark7 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

because thats exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. I dont know how else to say this to you.

I have for a while now been nevertrump, but the more and more he claims the Alt-Right identity, whether consciously or subconsciously, its wrong and it solidifies me not voting for him.

No we dont define them based on what we feel like that day, they are set principles. If you dont like them, then you arent conservative. Thats just how it is.

I noticed that you live by a really incorrect mentality of "the ends justify the means". This is a really poor choice of logic and ends up corrupting the thing you are trying to achieve, which is exactly what is happening to the conservatives who are throwing their support behind the alt-right, like yourself.

If you dont want to hear the truth thats fine, but quit deluding yourself into thinking these people actually want what conservatives want.

I also love the fact that you didnt address a single one of my points but instead resorted to personal attacks, like you did the other day. So ill make this as direct as possible to you. Do you believe that some races are inferior to others? Do you believe in a strong, large federal government? Do you believe that the white race is somehow better to that of other races?

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also love the fact that you didnt address a single one of my points but instead resorted to personal attacks, like you did the other day.

Your stay here is becoming very short lived, I will not tolerate being harassed and stalked by some arrogant ass who does not even know me to dictate to me what I believe or what I am supposed to believe.

Cease and desist or cease to have the privilege of posting in this forum.

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Constitution is under attack, and you're defending a bunch of Internet trolls and white nationalists.

BTW, those 'trolls' and 'white nationalists' are fighting against those attacking our Constitution.

Which makes me wonder just who's side you are on ?

[–]IronPathologistFree to Choose 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're attacking the Constitution on different fronts I listed elsewhere. And Kim Jung Un also hates the Democrats. Being against the Dems doesn't make someone good for freedom. Shoot. Jill Stein supporters oppose Hillary. Are they defending the Constitution?

[–]Howard_Roark7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

But they also say there are serious problems with the constitution, so they are also a problem as well.

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Let me guess, that is your opinion and its far far superior to mine and if I think otherwise I am just plain wrong.

I have been hearing that a lot this morning.

And still have my own opinion.

[–]IronPathologistFree to Choose 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me guess, that is your opinion and its far far superior to mine and if I think otherwise I am just plain wrong. I have been hearing that a lot this morning. And still have my own opinion.

Propshaft, I believe I'm right and you're wrong. There's no superiority in that. We can have different opinions, man. That's the nature of disagreement.

[–]Yosoff[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sorry, but your opinion supports racism. I can't respect that.

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Sorry, but your opinion supports racism. I can't respect that.

And yours empowers censorship and supports those who have openly proclaimed their intention to destroy our nations constitution, I will never respect or support that.

[–]Yosoff[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Calling racists what they are empowers censorship?

Okay bub, keep embracing racist ideologies in the name of free speech. You must see thinking before talking as a form of censorship as well, it would explain a lot.

[–]propshaft -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Okay bub, keep embracing racist ideologies

Now you sound like the people who tell me I am a racist because I dare disagree with obama, or a given lib policy.

I wondered how long it was going to be before that card was played.

[–]Yosoff[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, you were banned from /r/conservative for calling a black woman a nigger, so there might be more to it than you disagreeing with Obama.