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Men's RightsSome day, Gaming will be criminalized (self.TheRedPill)

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While we are not there yet, it seems that we are at least heading there

 

TL;DR Unwanted sexual attention in the public sphere is what people on here would call bargaining to get a pussy at a lower value than what its owner perceives it to be. Criminalizing it is basically a way for women to legally enforce their upper hand on the SVM.

 

According to this article published by The Guardian, misogyny should be considered a hate crime: "The warning from the Tory former cabinet minister comes after the Nottinghamshire chief constable, Sue Fish, spoke in depth for the first time about the force’s pioneering policy to recognise misogyny as a hate crime."

 

One of the funniest moments of the article is probably about how hamstering should be taken as a basis for legal action: "Listening to women’s experiences, they felt that they weren’t going to be taken seriously and then had mixed experiences if they did report.".

 

Now, where does misogyny starts and where does it end. Does being a member of TRP qualify as being a misogynist who should be legally prosecuted? Potentially.

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[–]aanarchist 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

doubtful, there's too much money in the industry.

[–]TheRedStoic 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you disagree with feminism you're a misogynist.

Pretty much that's all there is too it.

So yes. That's possible. I don't think it'll happen especially with the increasing numbers of women dissociating from feminism.

Additionally, men can always walk away. Even if it became illegal to disagree with a woman, men can choose not to interact, or to only interact with women who denounce the position.

This law can (not so easily) be written, but not enforced. The next step would be laws on forcing men to interact with women. Which simply couldn't happen, even beta's wouldn't tolerate giving up their wow time to hang out with an uggo by mandate.

Alphas in power would be livid too. Couldn't see it happening.

[–]FrostyGoingHisOwnWay 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

As feminists push for this men retreat out of marriage and fatherhood due to the risks, women want to have the gun in the room at all times and the state hands them that. This is the primary cause of MGTOW.

The feminists wont rest there however, they'll see men retreating out of responsibility as just a way to sleep with women risk free and they don't want that, so we'll see ever more intrusive laws regarding all interaction between men and women. It won't just be marriage it'll be co-habitation (this is going through UK parliament at the moment, alimony for non married partners co-habitating)

And when men refuse to live with women it'll be any kind of sexual interaction, with affirmative yes means yes laws in place in some parts of world now, and it won't stop there...PUAs have already been banned from entering the UK.

This is what MGTOW are getting ahead of and why it exists, this is a progression in society that is not (yet) being opposed by anyone, no one takes the MRM seriously and women certainly don't protest it.

[–]BasementDweller88 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

And then we get gems like this:

Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting by CHARLOTTE GILL

There are lots of things I love about Britain, just not its men. And I don’t want to stereotype them all, so let me be more specific: I refer to those my own age, who have forced me to bookmark a cattery website. In the romantic arena, trying to meet a man sometimes makes me feel like David Attenborough, stepping into the jungle to locate a Jesus Lizard (a real thing).

Finding Mr Dreamy is difficult because the main strategies a girl can use are wrought with danger. Number one is proactivity: in 2016, it seems fair that a woman can approach a chap she fancies. This sometimes works, but generally does seem to make the man's insides shrivel up when asked “having a good night?” or something equally menacing.

So we consign ourselves to option two: waiting. Which is just as problematic, as nothing happens. That’s the conclusion my friend and I came to last week, while we were sitting at a bar. We’re hardly bad company and several lads gave us a cheeky stare as they did the toilet trot. Still, nothing happened, so we stared sadly into our Mojitos at single reflections.

Eventually one guy asked if we’d like to join him for some table football. He was dashing and curious. He was German, of course (because the only people who’ll ever chat you up in Britain are not British.)

Now I’m not Claudia Schiffer, but I don’t think I’m Chewbacca either. Yet operating in this asexual environment, it is possible to feel largely unattractive. Some sort of winter chill has frosted over British men’s gonads, and it’s leaving us all out in the cold.

If only they’d learn from the Europeans, maybe we’d be in with a chance. In countries such as Italy, Spain and France, the men are as forward as it gets. In such territory, a woman’s self esteem may rise substantially from all the glory of being chatted up.

In Britain, it’s as if the stereotypical school disco - girls on one side, boys on the other - continues into adulthood. Eight-year-olds are probably better at asking for a dance. As a result, the singles market is growing, with 51 percent of people in England and Wales eating dinner for one.

In 2014, newspapers boasted that the City of London is fantastic for women - because it has 155 single men per 100 ladies. These numbers seems favourable - until you realise that you’re dealing with the most placid of creatures, many of whom seem to delight in their solo status.

Tools like Tinder and Happn have made things worse, as men are inundated with choice - giving them false belief they are Puff Daddy. Dating apps have completely killed off macho displays now even the most predatory man can click his way to romance.

You may be thinking that all this is trivial, but this dating dallying has big societal consequences. As the Guardian likes to remind us, loneliness kills - so dithering lads are actually murderers, when you think about it. I’m not sure what the psychological reasons for their inactivity is - perhaps feminists have scared them off with complaints of catcalling. So much so that, like the Jesus Lizard, a wolf whistle is near extinction.

British men need some encouragement, maybe even government intervention, to be more forward. In 2015, Denmark released an advert called “Do It For Mom”, to encourage its nationals to have more babies. Maybe we need an equivalent: “Do It For The Girls”. For if British men don’t make the moves, we almost certainly will be joining the Danes in the birth rate stakes.

Birth rates and loneliness aside, it’s a simple issue of self-esteem that worries me. Because of daft, but very real, rules of engagement, most women really are at the whim of men to decide their dating destiny. You wouldn’t believe how many guys are averse to forward women, but then won’t do the forward thing themselves. So everyone is stuck.

When I talk to single friends, many of us share a simple desire: we just want to be talked to more. Frankly, it’s getting us down. British lads, please find your gonads.

http://archive.is/tX8BY

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[–]Toastlove 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In countries such as Italy, Spain and France, the men are as forward as it gets

The same could be said for eastern European women, they are far more responsive to advances than British women.

[–]BobbyJ91[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. My experience is that they're even going to game back at you. You need to be ready for that shit. lol

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some sort of winter chill has frosted over British men’s gonads, and it’s leaving us all out in the cold.

Yes, it's called the "Thundercunt blizzard".

And contrast this:

In countries such as Italy, Spain and France, the men are as forward as it gets. In such territory, a woman’s self esteem may rise substantially from all the glory of being chatted up.

With this:

Tools like Tinder and Happn have made things worse, as men are inundated with choice - giving them false belief they are Puff Daddy.

Got that? Women's self-esteem = Good. Men's self-esteem = BAD! BAD! BAD!

Why? Because when women don't get exactly what they want the very second they want it, then it's a TRAVESTY!

[–]wat94 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol, so now wolf whistling and screaming abusive shit is game? Come the fuck on guys. This shit is great for society, it just weeds out the omegas with repressed sexual pulsions that are too weak to go talk to a woman and being normal and presentable and not creepy.

two men who shouted sexual abuse at her from their van as she was walking to work in the morning, then revved the engine and drove towards her at speed.

This is what worthless betas do in a group to make themselves think they are worth a damn in the sexual market. It is just a cry for help.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some day, Gaming will be criminalized While we are not there yet, it seems that we are at least heading there

We're closer than you think: Rape by fraud? N.J. lawmaker introduces bill to make it a crime.

Imagine what happens if you don't call the next day like you said you would. 6 months in the county lockup!

Now, of course that bill is bullshit, but chew on this: some asshat actually introduced it.

[–]Literallyoprah 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They targeted gamers. Gamers. We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did. We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun. We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second. Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded. Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights? These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex. Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh, it really is like dragging millions of hermits out of a cave.

Even if they were to lose this "fight", they could just call themselves 'gender-extinguished' and call it society abuse.

[–]legizelle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"and includes behaviour targeted towards a woman by men simply because they are a woman" So sex is to be illegal?

[–]sir_wankalot_here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is already a huge backlash, for the woman's equality day, I made an RP comment on a mainstream site about how men gwt screwed. My comment was the third highest voted comment.

[–]michael_wilkins 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In some ways it already is.

"Gaming" is just a Guy walking up a a Girl he wants to fuck and trying to convince her to fuck.

At it's core it's the ole Chris Rock routine. Your just walking up and saying "Want some Dick?"

That is "Game" at it's core. Game has always been, pre Neil Strauss, the ability to talk your way into a Girl's pants. It was originally urban slang iirc.

If you walked up to Women all day just repeated "Want some Dick" you'd get arrested for harassment.

So at it's core it already is illegal, bad game is illegal. I'm sure the bar will rise over time but it's of no concern.

Game is not the same as attraction. If your a Baller, then Girls will be attracted to yo, then it's not game, it's just not screwing up.

[–]hailhailhailandkill 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It already is!

Low SMV men are out of women's radar and even if they blink on the screen it suggests no good. Gonna get called creepy, harasser, perv, misogynist etc...

It's all about who it is, not what it is.

These broads do nothing but watering down real victims.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all about who it is, not what it is.

Indeed. Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

 

Truth is Hate

 

That's in essence what such a law would declare.

Any honest attempt to approach a woman where SMV is being determined through the interactive process (long ago called "Dating") will be a crime.

To present "Truth" will be labeled "Hate".

 

Does being a member of TRP qualify as being a misogynist who should be legally prosecuted?

 

What might be seen as a joke today could become law tomorrow.

Remember how quickly they gave legitimacy to "gender fluid" philosophy?

Once these psychopaths gain complete control over our laws they can do just about anything.

 

[–]DoubleTappp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whether this is a possibility is largely irrelevant.

For those that exist in the top 20%, there is very little "bargaining".

[–]FiveofSwords 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the damaging part of feminism stems from unreasonable paranoia. I must say that I think this concern you are posting is also unreasonable paranoia.

To be sure, there do exist feminists who live in some delusional world where everything is misogyny...their error is one of degree and is not fundamentally wrong because there does in fact still exist pockets of misogyny...but in developed western nations it totally lacks enough power to alter legislation.

Your fear also seems to be an error of degree, because these crazy feminists do exist...but do not represent the vast majority imho. Yes, exaggerated feminism has been powerful enough to alter some legislation but lets be fair...there does exist a line where the sane majority would not cross to cater to the feelings of a few crazy women. I believe your concern is beyond that line.

[–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It should be criminalized. Such a waste of time.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Listening to women’s experiences, they felt that they weren’t going to be taken seriously

Society takes female opinions too seriously. "Believe victims" has removed female responsibility from their accusations and lead to an epidemic of false rape accusations.

We should treat people's reported experience with a healthy grain of scepticism.