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[–]gryffinpgryffinp =I= 419ポイント420ポイント  (25子コメント)

To be fair, when was the last time the catholic church put out a trailer with great anti-aliasing and shaders?

[–]ImadoraSteam ID Here 122ポイント123ポイント  (4子コメント)

churchematic feel

[–]AndyJaroszwat is komputer 98ポイント99ポイント  (3子コメント)

30 prayers per second for a more spiritual feel

[–]yenwoodyenwood 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

60 prayers per second is like petting the devil

[–]nootrino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

144kHz people going to heaven, according to JWs.

[–]bgsavage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes but he human soul can only pray at 30pps

[–]IcyBeachesA10-7850K | RX 480 | 16GB 55ポイント56ポイント  (0子コメント)

the human eye can only see 30 faiths a second

[–]giantJimi7-3610QM 2.3Ghz | GTX 660M | 8GB DDR3 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

He sacrified himself for your frame rates

[–]throwthetrash16Specials/Codes here 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

24 points

I could better frame rates with the flying spaghetti monster.

[–]giantJimi7-3610QM 2.3Ghz | GTX 660M | 8GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

About to get to 30, but then it's going to cap because the eye can't see past 30 fps.

[–]Chill_la_Chill 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

At least they're not charging any more for indulgences, definitely the worst Microtransactions in history.

[–]Archlichti5 4690K@4GHz, MSi GAMING X GTX 1070, 16GB 2133 DDR3, 4Kx2K@60Hz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah and I couldn't get a refund for my time wasted in church, either. Religion is hella scam.

[–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well, they promise other things like heaven or love from Jesus and god.

[–]zenthrowaway17 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love you.

[–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

pcmr is love.

[–]Irrepressible87 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Preorder your afterlife today!

[–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

their letters of indulgence were almost somehing like a kickstarter project where no one knows if it was delivered correctly. Pay X to get a place in heaven!

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    [–]cptmineturtlehttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133019486 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335345/ <--- They did do this live action trailer.

    [–]Nomad911 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You haven't heard of the new(er) non-denomonational churches eh?

    [–]madagentSteam ID Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To be fair, when was the last time the first trailer had any actual gameplay over prerendered crap.

    [–]dog123ish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, but those fuckers promised me blood and bodies, yet all I got was water downed wine and stale bread. They'll say anything to get you through that door.

    [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 480ポイント481ポイント  (123子コメント)

    You forgot the facebook logo, a lot of PCMR members swear by that service regardless of the things they do.

    [–]Shuskeyi5-6400/ GTX 1070 439ポイント440ポイント  (94子コメント)

    Really? I thought Facebook being shit was a commonly accepted belief amongst PCMR.

    [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 157ポイント158ポイント  (88子コメント)

    Nope, i got an inbox full of facebook worshippers, all pcmr.

    [–]eyesfire2UHD 5820k, 2X290x, 32gb DDR4. 97ポイント98ポイント  (75子コメント)

    shit, when was my last facebook post? over a year it seems, if it wasn't for work and concert dates I'd probably just delete my account.

    [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 65ポイント66ポイント  (70子コメント)

    Just a few casual replies to my comment, its the third one from the bottom

    Its like a hive mind, i have spoken against that shitty website various times, each time the outcome of my inbox is the same, its scary af.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 108ポイント109ポイント  (41子コメント)

    Hey, the first guy isn't really wrong.

    I had this experience with tons of people and tons of websites/programs. Spent months trying to convince my friends that it makes no sense to pay for a TeamSpeak 3 server for just 5 people when there's Discord.

    [–]HyprDmg 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

    You can host your own TS3 server for free, and it holds up to 16 people without a license. With a license you can hold up to 256 (maybe 512, IDR exactly). That or just find a free public server.

    I've been hosting a TS3 server since it was in beta, and love it.

    [–]Bonghaettehttps://imgur.com/AcjVqvr 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

    32 people without a nonprofit license. :)

    Source: Been hosting on a netbook for quite a while. Underclocked an AMD C-50 to 400MHz, undervolt like crazy (0.7875v) and let it spin all day. Very low power consumption. Free, simple, high quality voice service with full control over what's going in and out. It's lovely.

    [–]HyprDmg 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh well there you go, and yeah, I'm using my laptop for hosting as well (it's used for streaming videos in my living room). And you can get a license free with no problem. Took me less than 12 hours.

    [–]errie_tholluxe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thats... actually quite well done.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

    You can host your own TS3 server for free

    Wait, you can? Everything I can find about it are only some random server generators.

    [–]Bonghaettehttps://imgur.com/AcjVqvr 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

    https://www.teamspeak.com/downloads

    Click "Server".

    To host you need an online PC (preferably a low power, secondary PC you can leave on) and knowledge on how to port forward if you have a router.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Jesus Christ I'm retarded, forgot to check the TS3 website...

    Thanks mate.

    [–]monsters2343 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    there is also another voice chat system called GameVox that has unlimited slots, simplistic setup ( as easy as installing a game and sending a link to folks to join it) and is free.

    [–]Deadonstick 13ポイント14ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Disagree on the Teamspeak thing. Teamspeak is extremely light compared to Discord and has better voice activation detection and user-specific volume management in my experience.

    Seeing as a 10-user Teamspeak server costs something like $1.70 per month I'd say it's worth it for some people.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I'd be okay if they had things they didn't like about Discord, but their reason to not switch was "Because I'm used to it."

    When I finally got them to switch they praised everything about Discord, up until one of them started crashing due to (I thought it might be possible, but couldn't get any more info on errors) an outdated Java, so they all went back to TeamSpeak. This time to a public server that crashes every 20 minutes.

    For me Discord and TS3 use pretty much the same amount of resources, voice activation is okay, but could use the voice preview like TS3 where you can hear how you sound. User volume feels the same, it's just percentage based rather than db.

    [–]Rock48Rock48 | i7-3770S | MSI 980Ti Twin Frozr | 16GB RAM 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

    up until one of them started crashing due to an outdated Java, so they all went back to TeamSpeak

    What? Discord is written in node.js with electron, an outdated java version is not even in the realm of possibility for being the reason that it crashes.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I really have no idea. He told me he's getting Java errors. Couldn't get him to send me screenshots or even bother to try and fix it.

    [–]Ripdog 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Did you try Mumble? It's free and open source, so no artificial limits like TS.

    [–]Mekranii5-4670k 4GHz, Radeon R9 390X, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Used it a few years ago. Currently there's no use in it for me, as my friends still won't switch from TeamSpeak.

    [–]Anomen77i5-4690K @ 4.3ghz | GTX 970 | 8gb RAM 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Discord also has user specific volume management.

    [–]Zelos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But the free service is better than the paid one.

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      [–]SjettepetJRI5-4670k@4,3GHz | R9 290X (reference) | Asus Z97 Maximus VII her 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      this is the biggest problem.

      Whatsapp has the same problem, I can bet you 19/20 smartphones have Whatsapp on it in my country. and now the Whatsapp user agreement is changing and intergrating Facebook more. I don't want to, but there is litterally no way out. might convince my closer, more techy friends to start using a different service, but most people won't change.

      [–]g0ballistici5 4670k | GTX 660ti | 16GB RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Other than familiarity I find mumble and teamspeak to have better voice quality than discord. Also when you're hosting your own server you know exactly all that voice data, chat text, etc. is going. Right to your server on your local network. It's just a peace of mind thing and while it's probably overly paranoid it's the only thing keeping me on mumble.

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        [–]vikeyev/id/vikeyev69/ 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

        To be fair that first one is legitimate. I've tried so many times to convince people to use anything but FB. No one cares :(.

        As dog shit as it is, I wouldn't stop using it unless pretty much everyone else did. Because it has a massive benefit in the way of it's immense user base. My 16 yr old younger brother contacted me literally 2 days ago. I hadn't seen or heard from him or my other brothers since my father died 5 and a half years ago. I had no way of contacting them or finding out where they were.

        I've also used it to get in touch with family I've never really known. Something I almost instantly regretted in some cases ಠ_ಠ.

        I hate FB, but until the user base migrates, if we want those benefits, we're stuck with them.

        [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

        I have nothing against the platform, i know what they stand for and what they do, what they provide and the many good things that come of it, knowing all that, i still choose to not use it cause i dont like the way you interact with other people, personal preference.

        But what i do actually hate about it, is the people glorifying it, as if its their job to protect it, and spread nothing but positive shit about the platform just to feel good about themselves if they encounter someone who dislikes it. These are just a few of the normal replies, i have way worse in my inbox that makes me question if these guys are getting paid to do so.

        [–]cbslinger 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I just don't see why people go around trashing on a platform that has clearly achieved its position of prominence due to superior design and infrastructure. I don't like that it's 'cool' to hate something just because it's popular. Almost always the people who do this don't seem to understand why the thing is popular in the first place.

        I don't think Facebook is perfect or even ethical, but it's hard to imagine a much better social media platform - which is why even back when there were 10-20 platforms people were using, everyone more or less eventually got on Facebook.

        I would probably be less mad if people gave more specific reasons for why they don't like Facebook and offered a realistic alternative that had literally a single demonstrably better / more useful feature than something Facebook already provides. Once the hipster circlejerk turns against you, it almost doesn't matter how obviously superior a product is to anything else in the market, people will still trash it.

        [–]vikeyev/id/vikeyev69/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It happens with a lot of platforms funnily enough. It's like you aren't allowed to not like something without it's overly loyal fan base coming to attack you.

        I don't mind people preferring something I hate. What I hate is when people down vote me into oblivion or argue with me over a bug I have in a game or a problem I have with the way certain things work.

        [–]elitemouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Dude you kind of just sound insanely paranoid lol

        [–]yellowhavok4670k R9 290x 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

        But serious question, what's wrong with facebook if we already got shit set up on there?

        [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Well nothing really, i get why people use it, i just dont get why people go out of their way to notify people who hate it, the positve sides. Thats the problem

        Its the same thing what the NMS damage controll redditors do

        Im having fun, idc what any of you say about the game, ill preorder NMS2 as well

        is the same as

        Idc if you hate FB, you fat ugly kid, i use it cause (insert social reasons for elderly and far away friends), so stfu and kys, you have no friends anyway

        [–]TheDeadlySinner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        So, your position is that anyone who has a different opinion to you is dumb, wrong, and should never speak it?

        [–]cbslinger 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Actually I'm of the opinion that Facebook is an excellent service, even if they aren't the most ethical. They provide a highly streamlined user interface, a large number of options for privacy and clear presentation of information and the ability to cross-link to different kinds of content easily.

        In my experience, most people who complain about Facebook usually have taken no efforts to unfriend the people they don't like, or otherwise police their wall and add people who might possibly post interesting content. A good Facebook feed can be almost as good as Reddit or Twitter for rapidly informing you of world events and allowing you to have meaningful conversations - or allow you to plan real world events.

        No Man's Sky is not a good game - Facebook is exactly what 'most people' want in a social media platform.

        [–]CorruptedFilesi7 4790K/G1 GTX 980Ti | HTPC: 860K/MSI 970 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        My main point is, i dont go around FB screaming how amazing reddit is. I dont even have the service, why should they come here to tell me how great FB is? I know what it does, i had one. Didnt like it and left, simple as that.

        Its like going around ps or xbox subs and tell everybody how anazing pc is. Its stupid, and exactly what all these let me tell you why i use FB and why you didnt like FB people are doing.

        [–]Gabe_Noodle_At_Volvo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Facebook as a service is cancer, especially if you don't have an account. I have an account I almost never use, but it's retarded how it starts playing videos with fucking volume, disabling it stops it, but it resets very often. And when it inevitably logs me out, trying to look at a page is frustrating, there's a box at the bottom that obscures 1/3 of the screen and every time I scroll down it goes full screen and I have to exit out of it.

        [–]kirbaaaayPC Master Race 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        is that actually the same as telling someone they should kill themselves tho

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          [–]ghost012 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Whats wrong with Facebook? well the new whatsapp TOA for example. Even if you chose to not "share" your phone number with facebook, they still will and still send other info.

          Hell the facebook app it self is cancer. Any one in your contact's(even if they dont have FB) will get their info pulled to FB...

          Or how about the "like" buttons on other sites that also track none Fb user's.

          And yes, i take any means to make my browsing and info private. Apart from my name, there is nothing else on facebook... unless my phone# got shared with the new TOA from whatsapp. And i will sue them if it did.

          [–]ShwinkyIt's got computer parts inside it. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The first guy really isn't wrong and the third guy isn't either. Well at least to an extent. And seriously, stop downvoting because you disagree with them. This is why good discussion is so difficult to find on Reddit. Everyone just buries the less popular opinion to never be seen again.

          [–]IAmA_Cloud_AMA 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Why did you downvote all the people that just disagree with you? Facebook is incredibly useful if you have friends around the globe, and it's become one of my main ways of keeping in contact with people who may have changed email/phone number over periods of time.

          Is it run by an asshole who just wants to sell all of your information? Yes, yes it is. Is it a horrible method of gaming? Absolutely. In fact, I use it very minimally, and really just as a means of getting a hold of people whose contact information I lost or don't have. Do I think you should use it? Not at all, if you are happy not using it I encourage you to keep doing what you are doing. But please don't think people who use it are braindead hivemind victims, or that facebook is somehow the worst website/service out there-- There is a reason it is popular, and a reason lesser services like Myspace died out to it.

          [–]KevinTran91Just Coffee feat. Angry Joe - Ayssntittays 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          They hate us cause they anus

          [–]Randomactsi5 2500k | GTX 560 ti | 8gb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I don't even have a facebook account.

          ¯\(ツ)/¯

          [–]roboczar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Ok

          [–]dns7950 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Facebook is definitely shitty, but it is still useful for some things. I hate almost everything about them. I hate that they bought Oculus. I hate their push notifications. I hate their stolen videos that play automatically. I hate their stupid groups, and I hate 99% of the stupid photos people share. I hate 99% of all the stupid statuses people share, and all the stupid shit people post that should be kept private, or that nobody fucking cares about. That being said, I'm going to keep using Facebook. For the same reasons that everyone else who has messaged you probably pointed out. It's free. I can use it to keep in touch with older family members who don't have a cell phone. I can get in contact with people I used to know and never would be able to find again otherwise. I can see pictures of my family easily. I can find out when the bands I like are playing in my town. Even if 99% of Facebook is shit, the 1% of good still makes it worth it to me. It's not hard to scroll past all the bullshit. It also lets you know a lot about people, you can sometimes tell a lot about someone from their profile. I've met someone that I thought seemed cool, added them on Facebook and then immediately realized that I didn't want to have anything to do with them. I really wish that there was a better way to do all this so that I could boycott Facebook, but there isn't. Even if a better service were to come out, if all my friends and family aren't using it then there is no point. Facebook has a monopoly on social media. I hate it, but as long as it's as useful as it is and free, i'm going to keep using it. So yes, Facebook is shitty, but so what? My friends aren't shitty, and they are the real reason people use facebook. How bad facebook is also depends a lot on the people you are friends with. If you have stupid friends, you're gonna see a lot of stupid shit. TL:DR

          Facebook is shitty, but useful. It is what you make of it. Most people use it for shit, but it's not hard to use it in a good way.

          [–]Jdixi7 6700k/GTX 970/16GBs DDR4 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I really hate Facebook. I used to never use it until I got this new job where it's one of the only websites that isn't blocked.

          It's just a cesspool of garbage recycled content and everyone's uninformed opinions.

          [–]GhostOfGamersPastI use a controller. Herp. 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

          ...But you're on reddit...

          [–]Jdixi7 6700k/GTX 970/16GBs DDR4 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm also not at work

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            [–]MysticpoisenDirty Pirate Swine 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

            For concert dates there's a great app called Bandsintown, it'll track all your favorite bands and let you know when they are on tour and when they'll play near you. You can set alerts and shit, it's pretty nice.

            [–]eyesfire2UHD 5820k, 2X290x, 32gb DDR4. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I know this, but to manually go and search bands to follow and all that stuff, plus the bands pages on facebook usually tell me earlier than bandsintown updates me

            [–]florensiei5 650 | MSI 750 Ti | 8GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            When I get out of school I'm deleting mine for sure.

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              [–]BCJunglist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Let's be real here, they have not truly ascended if they still worship zuckerberg.

              [–]Locknlawl 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Want to see PCMR explode from hypocritical irony? Watch this.

              http://i.imgur.com/znTCRqc.png
              http://i.imgur.com/qZpRU4S.png

              And now we wait.

              Edit: The downvotes. It has begun.

              [–]ghost012 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Linux users are to be taken serious as much as the Tux face... NOT.

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                [–]Baggotryi7-6700k @ 4.5 Ghz | ASUS 1070 STRIX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                yeah same

                [–]TrustworthyAndroid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                No you didn't

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                  [–]CobaltPhusion5750M / 8650G / 6GB / Win10 / Can't Minecraft Send Help 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  gab.ai is where it's at m9

                  [–]SemSevForSemSevFor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Might be a vocal minority

                  [–]imalittleC-3PO 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I too thought they were, then again the last time I played a facebook game was 2010 and back then they were just the mobile games of computers which demanded access to tell all your acquaintances about the stupid fucking way you waste your time.

                  [–]minizanzSteam ID Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  people still the rift. there is enough traffic there that FB wants to open a full platform/store with non VR games.

                  [–]RoadHouseSwayzeTrain6700k 970 sli 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It is, hes shit posting for karma (harambe). Dae le witcher 3 game of the year ?

                  [–]ShadrokI7-2600 | XFX R9 390 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  oh shit you just reminded me that I have a facebook.

                  [–]theinternetheroi5 4590/ GTX 960/ 8gb 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I'm out of the loop here, why is Facebook bad? I know that it collects data and everything, but there's no other way for me to stay up to date with friends and family. This sounds like a shill, but I swear I'm not.

                  [–]StarkyA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Facebook is fine, it provides a useful service so long as you're not an idiot and trust them to respect your privacy.

                  The problem is the world is full people who just don't understand (or don't care) how much personal data they're dumping on facebook and how all that is getting sold and used.

                  Treat facebook as a public place - in that everything you say or share will be available for the world to see, and it's fine.

                  [–]TheMadPrompter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Oculus.

                  [–]johnpeter123i5-4690k@4.2, GTX 970, 16GB RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Facebook may be terrible and have shitty practices, but between it and Whatsapp, I don't see another viable platform to stay in touch with old friends from HS and family living/stationed abroad. More so for the older generations who aren't interested/willing in learning about alternative services.

                  [–]tebredembadam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Whatsapp is shiittttt tho. Can't video call and pictures sent to me end up in my proper photo albums? The fuck is that shit. Thank you Asia for enlightening me about the Line master race.

                  [–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I have no facebook account, am I cool now?

                  [–]ryeshoesi7 3770/EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC/Acer XB270HU 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  I have no choice but to use it to contact some people but it's not as if any of those people I need to contact aren't on whatsapp or BBM or any of a trillion chat services. Or you know, by telephone/text.

                  In fact I've had FB deactivated for months with no ill effects.

                  [–]DaneSoul32Steam ID Here 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  WhatsApp is owned by Facebook, so no better there.

                  [–]n23_i7 2600k | GTX 970 | 8 GB RAM | 850 EVO 250 GB[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  Afaik it has none of the 'features' that make facebook shit so who cares if they own it.

                  [–]DaneSoul32Steam ID Here 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Facebook just announced that they're gonna mine and monetize information on WhatsApp, so yes, it does matter. Especially given the fact the app constructed itself as a "private" prior to the acquisition. But hey, free services, so who cares who's watching, right?

                  [–]Antabaka 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  WhatsApp is the one who announced that they would be sharing metadata with Facebook's 'family' of companies. But the messages are still end-to-end encrypted, so they can't see the contents, just that you communicate, who with, when, and how often.

                  I'm security conscious, but I can't find a single cross-platform IM service that isn't absolute shit (Signal is ironically Chrome only) or has absolute shit security (Telegram), so I'm willing to give them basic metadata in exchange for secure messaging. Whatever. At least it's not something like Hangouts where Google is quite open about taking all of the contents of your messages.

                  [–]ghost012 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Whatsapp will share your phone number(even after choosing "NO").

                  "WhatsApp is the one who announced" Whatsapp = Facebook.

                  And the whole "telegram" has bad security is a farce.

                  [–]Antabaka 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Whatsapp will share your phone number(even after choosing "NO").

                  Fair enough, though not a big deal to me, and there still isn't anything better. Hate as much as you want, but unless you can give me a mobile and PC (Not Chrome) IM service with encrypted messaging, I'm going to let them have my metadata.

                  "WhatsApp is the one who announced" Whatsapp = Facebook.

                  WhatsApp is owned by Facebook, but they are a separate company. That obviously isn't very important, of course.

                  And the whole "telegram" has bad security is a farce.

                  Rather than even arguing that with you, I'll just state that as a fact, you cannot have private (encrypted) messages with someone on desktop. So that's enough to kill it for me.

                  [–]jaijasty2i7-4720HQ|GTX 980M|32GB RAM|256GB+1TB SSD|1TB HDD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Well, the closest thing I use to social media is Reddit. I stay as far as possible from twitter, Facebook, and whatnot. I only have an account cause its convenient to use to create other accounts for sites lol. Also deactivating it now would put me in quite a pickle.

                  Fuck (most) corporations in general tbh.

                  [–]Bamzooki1http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/Bamzooki1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Other than freebooting from big pages and censorship, what have they done?

                  [–]TherealScrableWindows 7 Masterrace 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  Facebook? Until now I have managed to avoid that cancer.

                  [–]Ghosty141oh hi there. 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  Facebook has a huge upside to it, if you go to university (at least here in germany) or anything else where you'll meet a lot of new people, you often have a group where you exchange information and stuff.

                  I agree that FB sucks (nowadays) for personal/private use, too many ads, too much useless content, and of the other shit.

                  [–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I live in Germany and we have an open source student platform called StudIP for that. I literally never used Facebook.

                  [–]Ghosty141oh hi there. 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Yeah, FB is just easier for most people here (munich), we are like 600 + people so it's hard to coordinate everything and FB just works fine. I'll keep it in mind though.

                  [–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  yeah, it might help that I am studying at a very small university.

                  [–]cbslinger 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  I literally don't get why everyone seems to have some giant anti-Facebook boner. I get that they're going to sell user metadata but honestly the utility of the service they provide is virtually unparalleled in my experience.

                  Which social media options are better in your experience?

                  [–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Which social media options are better in your experience?

                  reddit

                  [–]cbslinger 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Would you share your reddit account with people you know in real life? How would you organize an event with 20+ people you know in real life through Reddit?

                  [–]Wefee11vidya gaemz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  What do you mean with "share"? There literally is nothing to share other than posts. If people want to see my redditaccount, maybe I make a new one, if this is too much into controversial stuff. And thats the great thing about reddit, its way more anonymous.

                  For events we create a doodle to find a date, most things are discussed in teamspeak. But most events have less than 10 people.

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                    [–]Emp3r0rP3ngu1n 94ポイント95ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    he should be wearing a fedora.

                    [–]ginko_guySpecs/Imgur here 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Dat euphoric smirk

                    [–]tsnErd3141 82ポイント83ポイント  (19子コメント)

                    So HelloGames joins the league...Feel bad for Sean but dude, you could have been a LITTLE MORE OPEN!

                    [–]CBNathanaeli5 3470 / 8GB / GTX760 158ポイント159ポイント  (13子コメント)

                    I don't feel bad for him at all. At some point he turned from big talk and promises he theoretically hoped to keep to outright lies.

                    And I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in regard to his old interviews and promises.

                    [–]NitrousRiot 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    I feel like it's Sony's fault They had a release window to fill, and they had to downgrade it to work on their platform That being said, Sean Murray is pretty deceptive

                    [–]thevortex137i7 4790k / GTX 970 / 8GB 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    I have no issues with features being taken out of a game during the development cycle, whether it be because corporate is forcing them to have a tight schedule, to cut costs, or whatever. That makes sense, it's a natural part of the development process. However, if you've made mention of these features being in the game ever before, then the problem comes in when you don't clarify that these features were taken out, or claim that they weren't.

                    [–]virtualvoltGTX 980 / i5-4690K / 8GB RAM 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    What's worst is after gamers discovered that NMS had many missing features Sean didn't pop on Twitter or Reddit and say "Oh no I'm so sorry you thought (multiplayer/factions/planet rotations/ship variety) was in the final game! We should've been more clear, but were too focused on development for good PR!" or something to that effect. That would've probably nullified a lot of the anger.

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                      [–]colinstalter 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      What did he lie about? Not trolling.

                      [–]Solid_Samurai 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Everything

                      [–]NEW_ACCOUNT_4_MEMESSpecs/Imgur here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There was a big megathread of all the things Sean said that didn't make it into the game on /r/NoMansSkyTheGame

                      [–]FunkyTown313Specs/Imgur here 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      He's the new Peter M.

                      [–]Acid-MembraneI7-4790K / GTX 970 / Samsung S34E790C 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      A 15-man operation whose sole claim to fame is "Joe Danger Touch Mobile"?

                      Any retard who believed they were even remotely capable of delivering 1% of what they promised deserves to lose their pre-order money.

                      [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I don't feel bad at all. It's not like he and Hello Games were unjustly labelled. They dug their own grave and completely set their own reputation.

                      [–]Bamzooki1http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/Bamzooki1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It's probably because Joe Danger was a cult hit and they were just used to that type of attention. At least it's a lesson for all indie studios. I hope they can learn from this and recover.

                      [–]Tech_Philosophyi5-4590, R9 390, 16 GB DDR3, 500 GB SSD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I can't say I feel bad for him. I think he could have been honest and still had a good, profitable launch.

                      [–]GuyOutsideYourWindowhttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198134591576/ 67ポイント68ポイント  (21子コメント)

                      I, in a moment of weakness, pre ordered the new World of Warcraft expansion.

                      [–]I_Am_NOT_The_Titani5 6400 / R9 390 / 16GB DDR4 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      The beta was super good, the part you need to worry about is whether blizzard will create a drought(almost a year without a new patch) like they did with Pandaria and Draenor. But, that's past preorder stage, you simply wont experience the expansion beyond questing if you don't buy it while it's the current one.

                      [–]Plutonium_manFury X@1170/550, 4790k@4.8 GHz/1.325 V // 1440p/144 Hz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      like they did with

                      Literally every version of the game that has been released

                      [–]alwayscomingfromtakeSpecs/Imgur here 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      well if you're talking about the CE it's not that bad to pre-order it, since they usually sell out. Also blizzard usually delivers.

                      [–]GuyOutsideYourWindowhttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198134591576/ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Standard, I wanted early DH's

                      [–]simjanes2k 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      lolwat

                      There were still MoP CEs on the shelf in my town when WoD launched.

                      [–]yellowhavok4670k R9 290x 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Same here but I honestly feel like it isn't the same thing. We've had a chance in Live so far to test out how classes play somewhat and how the new animations and sound effects feel. I know I'm going to keep playing this game and you pre ordered an expansion not a new title in a FPS or RPG series. It isn't like you're ordering bf4 after playing bf3 and enjoying it, you're continuing the game you already play.

                      [–]Konstrukt1 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      Blizz is still a mark of quality though, no? Granted, vanilla Diablo 3 was a bit of a mess, but the expansion and patches made up for that, and it's a great game now. I guess a lot of people complained about the most recent WoW expansion, never played that myself.

                      [–]absolutezero132 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Blizz is still a mark of quality though, no?

                      Irrelevant (and debatable, but that's neither here nor there). Any developer can make a bad game at any time. TW3 is my favorite game of all time, but Cyberpunk 2077 could turn out to be a train wreck. It's unlikely, given their track record, but it could happen. Therefore, it only makes sense to preorder after you've seen the reviews, and only then if the game allows preloading.

                      It just so happens in the case of the new WoW expansion, people have been playing the beta for months and there's plenty of trustworthy opinions on it out there. But in general, a clean track record doesn't mean anything. Preordering before reviews is bad, period.

                      [–]StarkyA 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Diablo 3 proved without a doubt though that if Blizzard make a bad game, they'll patch it until it's not just a good game but a very good game indeed - changing core mechanics, stripping out features that didn't work and everything. And although you needed to buy an expansion for the new content, D3 without reaper of souls still got most of the upgrades.

                      Right now I think D3 is a much more enjoyable game overall than D2 was (and I played d2 on release through to patch 1.13) for sheer fun of killing rooms of monsters and getting look - no game out there right now beats D3.
                      Path of Exile may be more of a challenge - but I got bored of it and never went back. Diablo 2 and 3 both keep bringing me back despite months or even years with D2 of not playing.

                      So a Bliz game (and they almost always have decent betas to get a taste) is still one of the few companies I'd be willing to preorder from so I could pre-download most of the game.

                      [–]absolutezero132 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Like I said, Blizz being a mark of quality is debatable, but it's also irrelevant. There's still no reason to not wait for reviews/opinions from people you trust. You will always have time to preload the game from the time that reviews go out to launch (unless the review embargo date is the launch date, in which case this should be a giant red flag, regardless of the studio).

                      [–]GuyOutsideYourWindowhttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198134591576/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      A lot of people did, but it seems to be a one off thing, as they're trying to tone down a lot of stuff that made Warlords bad

                      [–]seb_fisher 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Are there still garrisons? If not, I might pick up a copy.

                      [–]havoc92 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Theres order halls which are similar but beta testers have been saying they spent around 10 mins a day to start some missions to upgrade their weapon. Blizzard intends to not have another fiasco where everyone stays in their garrisson to make mad gold. It shows imo.

                      [–]ha1fhumani5 6600k | 16GB | GTX 970 watercooled 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Shame

                      [–]absolutezero132 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      People have been playing the beta for months. Anyone who cares enough can go find hundreds of opinions from trustworthy people about how the game plays. This is no different from preordering a game a few days before launch to pre load because it got amazing reviews.

                      The important part is that you have the ability to do research and get trusted opinions from reviewers. I didn't preorder TW3 until I started reading all the 10/10 reviews, even though I was super hyped for the game. Legion is no different, I only preordered once multiple people I trusted gave the thumbs up from the Beta.

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                        [–]everypostepic 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Never forget that they said Bioshock can be played any way you want or "your way".

                        Many still don't realize that you can't play the game using guns only, because the game never gave you enough ammo, or enough money to buy ammo to do it.

                        [–]Tech_Philosophyi5-4590, R9 390, 16 GB DDR3, 500 GB SSD 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I found that the wrench was a viable option until I had enough money/supplies for invention to keep myself fully stocked. Granted, you couldn't pick a single weapon and stick with it forever, but I don't think I used any plasmids in the last half of the game. I was on the normal difficulty.

                        [–]my_blue_snog_box 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I feel out of the loop: can you elaborate? Maybe I'm just dense, but I'm missing the point.

                        [–]MightyMaxyPad 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        The last pre-order I ever made was Dragon Age 2. I learned my lesson after that took a shit all over my expectations

                        [–]Heffer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        That game made me so mad. Origins was amazing and then they shit all over the title with that embarrassment. Inquisition was much better, but still lackluster in comparison to origins.

                        [–]MightyMaxyPad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yep Origins was SWTOR in a D&D setting. DA2 was EA doing their "appeal to a wider audience" bullshit. Same bull shit the did with my all time favorite game, Dead Space

                        [–]slothmasterraceguyAKA /u/3agl 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Sloths, eh?

                        [–]Ruviktoriano 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Beware of fanaticism. It's everywhere!

                        [–]jax1492i7-6700k | GTX 960 | NZXT s340, Kraken x31, 700w 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        so true

                        [–]ajburt1998 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I did not know Gorons to be the anti religous type

                        [–]UnorganizedInternetSpecs/Imgur Here 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        I've never been disappointed in a pre-order (granted, I've only preordered 3 games) So these sort of posts always sort of confuse me.

                        [–]jest3rxD 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I've never preordered a game because i don't understand the point and it's never worth the risk. I don't understand why people seem so eager to hype themselves beyond reason.

                        [–]needanewaccountname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Most of my preorders were when you needed to preorder in order to pick up a copy day of release. Also for niche games, you needed to preorder because some asshole was going to buy them all out and sell them online with a markup.

                        [–]sock_face 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        My most recent pre-order was Doom, and for me that game was amazing.

                        Before that maybe Civilization V, which I also loved. Before that Quake 4 ... which I also loved.

                        I don't get it either, but I guess I don't get sucked into the hype, which is helpful for determining whether you should or should not pre-order something.

                        [–]Afa1234 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        I don't know anyone that pre orders anymore, not since skyrim.

                        [–]Tech_Philosophyi5-4590, R9 390, 16 GB DDR3, 500 GB SSD 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        I have to admit Skyrim was "before my time", at least in the PCMR sense of the phrase. I'm not young but I built my first rig last year. What happened with Skryim?

                        [–]Afa1234 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I think it was the last big label that me and my friends were really waiting for. There wasn't anything wrong with the game or anything but the midnight release style release fad died out by that point. In the past the midnight release was so hyped because there was always a chance that there wasn't enough copies made but after skyrim, there's always enough copies for sale at all locations. Kinda made it pointless.

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                          [–]imalittleC-3PO 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Alright, I'm a cheapskate. In fact I almost never buy games unless I can get them on humble bundle with like 15 other games I don't really care about for a whopping $15. That being said if I'm going to pay full price for a game I must really care about it and therefore see no reason not to pre-order it.

                          For what it's worth the last game I pre-order was the division which clueless developers be damned is a fun game underneath it's dull end-game. Before that it was Final Fantasy 13 a good 6ish? years ago. I hated that game and it did put me off pre-ordering a bit but my point is what the fuck does it really matter? Dev's aren't going to change at this point. The companies are making too much money for too little yes but bitching at the people pre-order the shit wont change it.

                          NMS is what's going to change it. Hello Games is going to be taking huge losses with these refunds, their investors will probably pull the plug and I wouldn't be surprised if the company collapsed over it.

                          We as players need a way to hold the companies responsible as Sony, Steam, and Amazon have chosen to do with Hello Games. The answer isn't "stop pre-ordering" it's start demanding what you paid for.

                          [–]alaphant42Geforce GTX 1070 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          I would love someone to explain why preorders are so bad. I can refund the game if I don't like it, so if the game is bad I don't lose my money. So why shouldn't I preorder?

                          [–]JoseplhGTX 960, Intel i7 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          2 parts.

                          • Some games you cannot refund, especially if Digital
                          • Encourages companies to front load games with pre-order bonuses

                          The first part is mostly shrinking in concern nowadays, because more online Stores are offering a refund policy.

                          The second is more sinister.

                          Like every company they need to make a profit. Video games are expensive and uncertain when it come to profit, like a movie. Some do well, others don't. Pre-ordering guarantees the company money before the game is released. Regardless of the quality of the game they make money. Years ago games started offering "bonuses" for pre-orders for games to further boost pre-order number before people know if the game is good or not. Companies will also cut specific content and lock it behind pre-orders which requires consumers to pre-order if they want the full product. Simultaneously it disincentives long term sales and fixing broken games, because they have the money long in advance and want to move on to the next product.

                          [–]thedudethatdiscoversStrix 1080, i5 6600k @ 4.3, 1 TB SSD + 3TB HDD, 16 GB of RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Pre ordering doesn't guarantee the company money, because people can just refund. If I preorder a game from steam, then don't like it, I can refund. The money I gave to the company comes back away from the company to me

                          [–]Levyathyni5-2500K @ 3.3GHz each/nVidia GTX 670 FTW 2GB OC/Corsair 16GB 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Pre-ordering isn't about you, it's about everyone else.

                          Game sales don't even matter as much as presales anymore, because pre-ordering is cash companies make before a product is released based solely on how well they appeal to the market with said product. That means it's a zero effort work, with eventual work to follow.

                          Pre-ordering as a standard has led game companies down the path they're on now, with numerous titles across several iterations of consoles being known for dropping in quality, rehashing or resampling content, saving or withholding content for purchased DLC, or just release weak end products with less QA testing, design budget, or content period.

                          Pre-ordering as a scheme doesn't necessarily work--as you say, refunds are often available and sometimes easy, though take the recent No Man's Sky debacle as proof otherwise... if Steam hadn't stepped in to offer late refunds, hundreds of thousands of players would have been left with no refund after playing it past a certain amount of time.

                          That said, none of that matters to publishers and boardroom executives. They see money thrown into a product, so they push for a release date because they don't want to see their money wasted. Pre-ordering encourages that forced deadline no matter what, and is often the only metric big money uses to gauge a game's success. That means that they don't really care what actually comes out, or how well it actually does.

                          What this has done to the industry is already evident, and directly tied to the increased proportion of pre-ordered sales to regular game sales, which is why pre-order bonuses are so prevalent and incentivized. Game companies wouldn't do it if there wasn't a huge benefit to them directly.

                          [–]Egyptman09Gtx 980ti SC+ | i7 6700k | 16GB DDR4 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          in reality that is a stupid comparison but as a joke its pretty funny XD

                          [–]CJ101XGTX 760, AMD 6300 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Actually I would argue it's a pretty clever comparison. Religion is a very popular topic to argue about, but those same people don't always use the same sense of skeptical and caution with games.

                          [–]IAmTheSysGenR9 290X, Ubuntu Xfce/G3/KDE5/LXDE/Cinnamon + W8.1 (W10 soon) 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I think it's the whole dedicating your life vs losing 60 bucks

                          [–]Egyptman09Gtx 980ti SC+ | i7 6700k | 16GB DDR4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          in that case yes i agree but thats not to say that some people did indeed question this game before release

                          [–]iandj1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Surely there's minimal difference between the religion you are following in life and your ability to preorder a game that you're looking forward to in order to preload it/save money/get bonuses that you can refund within 2 hours anyway.

                          [–]IllRED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Even more ironic because this subreddit is essentially a cult.

                          [–]RaikudouOh shit you found my weed! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          slothful!

                          [–]themastersbthemaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This could be applied to Redditors as a whole. Not just gamers. "I'll believe anything so long as it's a big block of text."

                          [–]MPair-E 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I...think I'm too old for this shit.

                          [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          While people will be quick to point out that "people will never learn", I feel that more and more people do with each passing moment. It's just that there are still so many others that don't (and more up and comers that take their place).

                          [–]Bamzooki1http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/Bamzooki1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I think there are better companies for this than Hello Games. Both Joe Danger games delivered perfectly. I know that NMS was lacking, but it still seems odd when there's more bullshit from other companies than just one game.

                          [–]dietotaku 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          ITS' NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL, IS IT STEVE?!

                          [–]Rushed_username1726 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It's amazing how much damage preordering has done to the gaming industry. Why bother making a solid game when you know hundreds of thousands of people are gonna buy it before it's even released?

                          [–]eddiekoski 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          If half life 3 came out in preorder u mat not be strong enough to resist.

                          [–]Kurgon999 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Ouch.

                          [–]EchoRadiusMrStitch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I make it a rule never to preorder, and then I broke that rule ONE time cause the game coming sounded like something I wanted for SO long... And it turned out to be a turd.

                          Sword Coast Legends reinstated the rule. Never again.

                          [–]ExtreemWeenieDebian Stretch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          i'm a well rounded elitist tyvm

                          [–]ToastedSoupi5 4690k, R9 Fury X, 8 GB DDR3-1600, NZXT X61 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          THE GREAT BEYOND IS ALL A LIE!

                          [–]Sifff5960X | 2x980ti | 32GB | 1TB EVO+16TB Raid -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          I pre-ordered BF1. I very rarely pre-order (or purchase games at full ticket price) but surely it's up to me when I do.

                          [–]jpcollier90Specs/Imgur Here 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Bf4 had a disastrous launch. Be careful.

                          [–]Bears_Beats_Battle 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I keep hearing this but I don't get it. I bought it on the ps3 on the day of release and it worked fine. Servers crashed occasionally but nothing too bad.

                          Was the PC version bad?

                          [–]Out0fAmmo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yes, it was. Lots of bugs, crashes, and general mayhem. It took them a long time to iron out all of the kinks, and some argue that there's a lot to be done.

                          I didn't buy BF4 until China Rising (first DLC), and it was still pretty bad. Thankfully it's much better now.

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                            [–]allchiefedup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Whatever. I still preordered Final Fantasy XV and xcom2 anyways.

                            [–]kofteburgerhttp://imgur.com/a/pMbPZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            I know this isn't the place but I just want to say, In Turkey we never use crescent and star to represent Islam.

                            [–]SuperWeegee4000SuperWeegee4000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That's strange because it's your flag.

                            [–]american_defector 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            I was this idiot with No Man's Sky.

                            [–]Brubold 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            You and me both. Thing is, I don't usually pre-order anymore for exactly these reasons. I don't know why I talked myself into this one.

                            Still waiting on a GOTY edition of Total War: Warhammer.

                            [–]american_defector 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I'm the same. Never preorder but this one grabbed me. Live and learn.

                            [–]mayorjimmy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            upvoted to 666. awwww yeah.

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