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[–]Qwertyest 2043ポイント2044ポイント  (479子コメント)

Definitely.

The Youtube reviews, the memes, the angry rants. It's all been pretty amusing. I can guarantee I've had more enjoyment watching the fallout than most people had who played the game. And it didn't cost me a penny!

[–]listenthenspeak 1097ポイント1098ポイント  (397子コメント)

It's almost as delicious as the drama of watching Pokemon Go slowly implode.

[–]CrimsonUrsine 575ポイント576ポイント  (225子コメント)

As an ex-Ingress player I am revelling in guaranteeing everyone that it will be done by Christmas.

[–]gymnasticRug 209ポイント210ポイント  (4子コメント)

Just like World War One. Done by Christmas.

[–]DB9PRO 49ポイント50ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love me some romanticized war.

[–]FuckinNiceKitty 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahh so the game will inevitably be dragged out 3 more years before it's shut down, got it.

[–]Gyshall669 239ポイント240ポイント  (193子コメント)

Isn't Pokemon go already done?

[–]HilarityEnsuez 562ポイント563ポイント  (101子コメント)

Pokemon Gone

[–]Gyshall669 248ポイント249ポイント  (72子コメント)

I only got to level 7 but it did inspire me to play heart gold again, so they did something right.

[–]Indigetes 109ポイント110ポイント  (24子コメント)

Lol, I'm playing heart gold again because of pokemon go, and started after lvl 7. Are you my other me? Because I want my mine back.

[–]MrStealYoBeef 27ポイント28ポイント  (17子コメント)

It inspired me to get liquid crystal for GBA emulator. It's crystal version with some added stuff using an altered fire red ROM. Great game so far.

[–]nukasu 77ポイント78ポイント  (10子コメント)

there are still 32 million players so not really, no.

[–]POOTER_SHOOTER 33ポイント34ポイント  (56子コメント)

I mean, you can still play it. Just everyone else pretty much quit.

*Exaggerations never go unchecked here on the ol' reddito.

[–]binipped 104ポイント105ポイント  (31子コメント)

In my town people still play. A coworker of mine and I go for a few walks a day during breaks and we are constantly running into others playing, especially at gyms. (Downtown Olympia, WA). In Seattle poképarties at bars are still a big deal. It honestly doesn't feel like anyone quit here.

[–]FeatureCreeep 72ポイント73ポイント  (10子コメント)

Went to the mall yesterday in the Atlanta suburbs and still people playing. I'm playing as well. Level 24, still trying to get my 400 Magicarp candies.

[–]choco_mallows 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I work near a creek and a pokestop. The almost constant lures ensure that magikarps spawn like crazy everyday. After the appraisal update i found out my Gyarados was shit and i was all, "pssshhh, it's going to take me a week to get another Gyarados."

[–]EccentricOddity 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

a week

You lucky son of a bitch.

[–]IMsoSAVAGE 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

So ridiculous how many candies it takes to evolve magikarp. I've been playing since launch day and still have alittle over 200 candies before I can evolve one.

[–]dances_with_treez 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

In Anchorage, AK. Parks are still packed. We like the summer sun, and Pokemon Go requires going outside. So win win.

[–]darkninjad 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Michigan is still going strong (at least my area) with Pokemon!

[–]sheepinabowl 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Small city in Maine here, parks are still packed. Hell I only just started playing last week.

[–]Home-Before-Dark 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

The park in my city was full of players tonight.

[–]good_guy_submitter 125ポイント126ポイント  (22子コメント)

Pokemon Go doesn't make me happy like NoManSky does, Niantic was just stupid. Hello Games, however, was deliberately lying to everyone.

[–]hugemuffin 72ポイント73ポイント  (25子コメント)

Ouch, this cuts close to the bone for me. I saw quite a few of my friends begin to make positive changes in their lives because of pokemon go and then slide back because of how the game was handled.

Niantic had the chance to do so much good for so many people and they pissed it all away.

The 3-step bug put more people back on the couch than Michelle Obama ever motivated to exercise.

[–]hatgineer 31ポイント32ポイント  (8子コメント)

Literally all they had to do was come out and say "the removal of features is temporary," and they would have majorly patched the hemorrhage of player pool.

Those people who left, they're not coming back. When Niantic rolled out the fixes those people already stopped caring. At least communicating would have gotten some of them to hold onto the game.

[–]mrchipslewis 20ポイント21ポイント  (88子コメント)

im out of the loop, what's the story with this?

[–]HarbingerOfAutumn 91ポイント92ポイント  (20子コメント)

Some of it was Niantic's failure to communicate about the problems surrounding the launch (server downtime, the tracker getting removed, etc). But more fundamentally, the game just doesn't have many things to do. The battle system is very simplistic and basically spam-clicking PvE. You can try to complete your Pokedex, but it's heavily dependent on being able to travel a bit or grinding eggs while paying real money for incubators. Or you can try to grind experience, which is brutally miserable and being higher-level often feels like you're less powerful than you were at the start.

And the final nail in the coffin is that playing outside of urban areas feels like a total waste of time. People in highly populated areas get more pokemon spawns, more diverse spawns, and better access to pokeballs.

[–]evilsbane50 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah the last part of your paragraph is the part that killed it for me. After a certain update my small town lost all its ability to spawn uncommon Pokemon it's just fucking Birds and Rats. At home? Absolutely Nothing. There used to be a couple spawns in two spots but those are gone now to, I basically have to drive 35-40 minutes to get to a town that is populated enough to find new stuff and I got tired of having to go that far so I just stopped. Also I've been over level 20 since the game came out so leveling has been abysmally slow for me for a long time, and the best way to level up is to catch Pidgey's and evolve them, that's boring as fuck.

[–]GuiltyStimPak 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very close to why I stopped playing. Plus I don't think my phone liked being that hot.

[–]Gwayn 82ポイント83ポイント  (11子コメント)

People claiming the game is dead are being a bit silly. Yes the game hemorrhaged a ton of players but it's important to understand that Pokemon Go could never live up to the hype or its popularity explosion. 40 millions players in the matter or two weeks or so? That's insane.

Yes, the headlines are being sensational and saying that Pokemon go has lost 10-15 million players but I could just as easily write the headline "Despite the early issues, Pokemon Go still has 25 million players a month later"

The game has its failing buts it's made steps recently in the right direction and I, and millions and millions of others, still enjoy it on a daily basis and plan to for the foreseeable future.

[–]Getsumatl 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's tons of people that play Pokemon go and are otherwise completely outside the gamer demo/aren't affected by the mood swings of the petulant community of hardcore gamers.

[–]zaphod_beeble_bro 100ポイント101ポイント  (44子コメント)

People realized that the game is ultimately a bore and that repeating the same grind over and over with no objective but to grind more is kinda pointless.

[–]Letstalktoit 82ポイント83ポイント  (11子コメント)

Lots of people were also upset about all the negative changes the company made while simultaneously ignoring all user feedback. Like what more people were complaining about

[–]McBliz 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

yeah the game could have survived a bit longer if they fixed the bugs instead of straight up removing them and then absolutely ignoring the community until (and this is my favorite part) angry fans found a tiny grievance (Google Playstore refund discrepancy IIRC) and reported the shit out of it while adding comments to the reports about why everyone was mad.

They finally communicated something along the lines of "Hi guys we're alive and we're trying to fix the bugs sorry please stop inundating us and Google".

Meanwhile the overall community manager was getting so many comments about why people were mad he was like "I'm not the Pokemon Go CM just the head one we're uh hiring". It got so bad he had to put that he wasn't the CM in his twitter bio and ignoring the players and deflecting instead of responding.

sorry still salty

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[–]VivaVizer 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

What I think is the most amazing thing about Pokemon Go is how wonderfully it highlighted the importance of communication with the players.

Like if they explained what was going on properly, they wouldn't have garnered nearly as much venom.

For example, the "three-step bug" that everyone complained about... was not a bug. It was a design flaw with how the tracker worked.

Basically, the tracker used to work by their servers calculating every Pokemon's distance from you and telling your phone how many steps away they were... constantly.

That's how tracking worked the first week. Every player in the world was getting real-time distance data from the server for every Pokemon in their cell (how Pokemon Go divides up the world). That turned out to be a very expensive scaling issue.

So they turned it off and everything in the cell defaulted to three-steps thereby making tracking impossible with the in-game tracker.

It isn't something that they can just turn on again. It wasn't a bug that could be reverted. It would involve a design change which the latest tracker shows promise.

But nothing was said the players and they worked to heavily lock down their game endpoints. Some of it was necessary because botters are a plague... but I feel like a more symbiotic relationship with Pokevision would have helped more than harmed.

edit: minor text changes

[–]ThatKoolKidOverThere 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm just incredibly turned off by how it lacked anything of substance. A cool concept muddied by the fact that a lot of staples to Pokemon gameplay were simply not present in the release build. Even with the promise of adding later (see trading) I can guarantee it won't matter by the time they get around to it.

Couple the lack of features with the lack of proper communication and care and you have yourself a poor game. They had such a brilliant chance at a brilliant success thanks to such a great concept (and Pokemon) and Niantic blows it more and more each day. A bummer, but at this point I'm glad it's dying out a bit. Hopefully people are moved to pick up an actual Pokemon game instead because that's where the real content is.

[–]deadlyenmity 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck I don't know which game you're talking about

[–]throwawayforelection 16ポイント17ポイント  (11子コメント)

Are you referring to NMS or Pokemon GO? Really, it could be both

[–]vitsippa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think /u/mrchipslewis asked about Pokemon GO, actually.

[–]listenthenspeak 40ポイント41ポイント  (8子コメント)

Niantic released a game that basically didn't have a game inside of it. I played along with the other 45 million people that played it at some point. It was exciting to run around looking for Pokemon but it took me 3 weeks of intense playing to fill about 40% of my pokedex (small town) and then things just stopped spawning. Playing just became a chore and a grind and I ultimately quit because without new stuff to do and no game mechanics its just a broken buggy shell of a game.

It's getting hate because Niantic is being seen as an inept company that was too small to take on something as big as Pokemon. The game has only been out for a little over a month but the big criticisms are:

  • servers were down for almost a week of the first month because Niantic has piss-poor spaghetti code that is basically a re-skinned version of another game Ingress which is a reskinned version of another app called Field trip. The codebase is completely screwed up.

  • They killed the only feature (3 steps) that allowed you to track pokemon. When the game was released you could see pokemon on a radar and it told you how far you were with step markers so you could actually wander around and hunt for them. Without that feature the game became literally mindless wandering and hoping for something to appear randomly.

  • Servers again shit the bed after the latest update and locked millions of users out of their accounts for over a day, sometimes two days.

  • Cheating on an almost unprecedented scale. At one point nearly every pokegym in the game was controlled by botters and spoofers. Some of the biggest channels on Twitch for two solid weeks of the last month were people blatantly cheating at the game.

  • Niantic communicated absolutely nothing to its users while the game was down and everything was broken.

  • Even when the servers were back up the game constantly crashes and freezes on players.

  • Zero balance and no game mechanics. Playing in gyms is little more than mashing your finger as fast as you can with pokemon that are so out of balance only 5 of the 142 currently released are even usable.

They basically released a "game" that was almost in pre-beta state. It's a buggy, crashing, hot mess with no content besides the Pokemon brand and they squandered the goodwill of millions of fans for a quick cash grab.

This game COULD have been a multi-year multi-billion dollar franchise but Niantic just couldn't put together a decent product.

Around 15 million of the total 45 million have already quit and my prediction is that by the end of September active daily users will have dropped by another 10 million and the game will fall into obscurity and stop being played by November when Sun and Moon is out.

[–]1212315 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This game COULD have been a multi-year multi-billion dollar franchise but Niantic just couldn't put together a decent product.

Exactly, which is why I cant figure out why they rushed to release it early. They could have made so much more $$$ if they'd delayed release and built a more polished well rounded game. Why on earth did they do it? Such a bad business decision.

[–]Woodshadow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I knew the game would only be fun for about two weeks which is why it pissed me off I couldn't get into it half the time. the game was obviously just giant hype. Could have been a lot better. It was almost as if they were targeting the casual market but requiring you to pretty much hit up pokestops repeatedly through out the day just to have a ball or two to catch a pokemon with

[–]JojoTheWolfBoy 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

If they had made it where you had side quests and could battle other players around you it would have been way better.

[–]lava172 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except there's really not much drama anymore. They shut down pokevision at the beginning of this month and since then it's just kinda been stagnant.

[–]CarrotIronfounderson 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

wait, what? how is it imploding?

(I don't play at all, but find it kind of an interesting idea)

[–]MacroCode 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

how is it imploding? seems alright to me

[–]Encyphus 27ポイント28ポイント  (21子コメント)

I'm actually considering buying the game now, I mean now that I have zero expectations, I may actually enjoy it.

[–]caninehere 45ポイント46ポイント  (9子コメント)

Honestly, it's okay for a couple hours. The problem is that it almost feels like it's specifically designed to keep you interested until the refund period on Steam is over, and then you realize it's just the same thing over, and over, and over again forever.

MANvsGAME beat it on his stream today and after the end (where he usually gives his thoughts) he just said, "well, the game literally hasn't changed in the last 30 hours so I've already said everything I had to".

Just don't pay $60 for it. If you absolutely must play it now, PS4 copies can be had for $30+ and the Steam version will get a sale soon for sure. Just wait until it drops, because it will and it will drop hard.

[–]jgrx1 341ポイント342ポイント  (24子コメント)

All HG had to do was not lie about features, call it a Zen chill out indie game, charge 30 bucks. Reviews would have been very positive.

[–]TheoX747 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

The sad truth :(

I bought it for the zen aspects, I just wish it cost less...

[–]JayceJace 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

The zen aspects are ruined for me with the piss poor flight controls. Elite Dangerous is way more calming and zen, imo. Making boom runs, traveling through space, it feels good.

Besides that it always pisses me off while I play the game and think of Sean saying it has 'emergent gameplay' and I'm just sitting there shooting some sentinels and wondering "What fucking emergent gameplay is possible here, SEAN, WHERE IS IT?!"

[–]marcthedrifter 91ポイント92ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm pretty sure that was the original plan until Sony showed up.

[–]Rewqyyy 50ポイント51ポイント  (5子コメント)

I dunno man. Sean really seems natural at excited, afraid-to-say-no bullshitting that he largely believes himself. Sony may have catalyzed that, but he was going to sell the game as a fully functional universe no matter who backed him.

[–]brianfallen97 112ポイント113ポイント  (69子コメント)

would anyone say elite dangerous is better? i was really looking forward to a space exploration game, and was gonna buy this until i saw all the negative reviews.

[–]Gmr_Leon 93ポイント94ポイント  (22子コメント)

Depends, it has more realism if that's what you're into, but the learning curve for flight is supposedly steep. Also, all the planets you can land on are barren and supposedly the content itself is shallow and not much better than NMS.

Both are notoriously described as being a mile wide and an inch deep, which is just a longer way of saying shallow but extensive.

[–]psomaster226 32ポイント33ポイント  (6子コメント)

Agreed. It's Euro Truck Sim in space with combat. If you like that, good. If you don't like that, don't bother.

[–]LacksAgency 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The weird thing is I love euro truck Sim and dislike NMS.

Granted in euro, if I crash my truck it means something.

[–]ObsidianNoxid 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In Elite you do too, depending on the ship and ship components you are charge 95% of the total cost of the ship to replace it.

Also boosting into a blackhole is fun and neutron stars are fucking scary.

[–]LacksAgency 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds way more fun than the hue light bulbs NMS seems to have. I haven't been to a black hole yet. But the rest of the game hasn't left my hopes too high.

[–]ALargeRock 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ehhhhhh...

I've got about 200 hours in Elite Dangerous. There is definitely some worthy criticism, but there is a lot that is unfounded too.

The flight is spot on perfect. Tons of fun and just realistic enough to let your imagination soar. There is a learning curve, no doubt about it. The game really shines when you have a HOTAS (you can find one new for about $40).

The land-able planets are currently limited to those without atmosphere. As such, they are barren (except for few with strange, alien like life).

The big thing here with E:D is that they have a 10-year dev plan/cycle. There is loads more coming out and it is a very active community and the devs do share some info. Not as much as people want, but it's there.

I won't say mile-wide-inch-deep for E:D, but I won't lie that some imagination is required. The game does not hold your hand at all - and you, as a pilot, are in charge of your own narrative.

Overall, I'd give it a solid 7.5/10 in it's current form. It's a must-have for any space enthusiast that's always wanted to fly around the milky-way in a pseudo-realistic way. It doesn't have the staying power for gamers who want a more guided experience.

[–]thecrow1213 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agree with this. If you like what this guy said, we're happy to have more CMDR's around :)

Also Frontier is always talking to the community, so we know what to expect and what we're getting. Such a better business model than the route HGs took.

[–]lordchewie 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

ED is also MUCH cheaper (at least it was when I got it).

[–]Bachklamk 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Elite: Dangerous I have 400 hours and an still having fun exploring, taking screenshots, bounty hunting and riding the buggy. Trading can be a pain but you'll spend around 5 hours doing smuggling runs (at around 200 hours in game you'll be doing those if you want a lot of money) bit after that you'll be set for life. You can just dick around for the rest of the game waiting for Thargoids and newer updates and trying out ships. It's pretty fun if your goal is not to just make as much money s quick as possible. Sushi graphics are not painful and the sound of amazing. So I have 400 hours in E:D still having fun, but barely 7 hours in NMS and dying of how annoying this game is.

[–]LaboratoryOne 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Elite Dangerous is dope, go for it and spread the word. It can be dull at times but it's the coolest functioning space game at the moment.

[–]IxWoodstockxI 920ポイント921ポイント  (315子コメント)

I'm done with the game not playing it ever again. 12hrs is enough.

EDIT: Amazon gave me a full refund!!! Thank god now I can buy a good game this Fall season of gaming.

UPDATE: Sony, Steam and Amazon issuing refunds regardless of play time. http://www.inquisitr.com/3458500/no-mans-sky-steam-sony-and-amazon-begin-issuing-refunds-regardless-of-play-time/

EDIT: To all of y'all in denial or defending the game. Comparing a video game, that the developer clearly lied about, to food is retarded. That is all.

[–]CrazyAsianJake 346ポイント347ポイント  (97子コメント)

Steam is letting you refund the game EVEN if it's over 2 hours.

If you own the digital copy on the PS4 than you are able to call PlayStation Customer Service to fully refund the game if it hasn't been over 14 days since you own it.

EDIT: Also, Amazon is doing a refund too!

EDIT 2: If you own the physical copy... well... at least you have a new coaster :3

http://www.inquisitr.com/3458500/no-mans-sky-steam-sony-and-amazon-begin-issuing-refunds-regardless-of-play-time/

[–]CriminalIngenue 53ポイント54ポイント  (21子コメント)

I've played the game for just over three hours and they refused my refund on that basis.

Definitely still try to get your money back if you're not enjoying yourself, but they aren't going to be anymore lenient with refunds.

[–]infburz 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

You can get a refund if you open a support ticket in Steam rather than going through the official refund process. The refund process is automated -- support tickets get human review and should be approved.

[–]Lumpyguy 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

I managed to get a full refund from Steam. I just said that it was nothing like it was advertised, and I got my refund in about 2 hours. I had 3 and half hours playtime.

[–]thatguythatdidstuff 67ポイント68ポイント  (44子コメント)

no its not, at least not for everyone

I have 15 hours, spent ages writing down every single missing feature, how it plays poorly and patches never fixed it, and how it took a good dozen hours before it becomes apparent the games nothing like it was advertised, got rejected anyway.

[–]itonlygetsworse 290ポイント291ポイント  (17子コメント)

How to refund:

Step 1: Log a ticket

Step 2: Tell them you've spent X hours trying to get the fucking game to install because its a PIECE OF SHIT and look at all these people having technical problems and you can't get it to work

Step 3: Stop putting in all this information how you carefully explored every fucking mechanic in the game and played it and had fun for like 4 hours before you realized it was a piece of shit but kept playing it for another 11 hours

Step 4: Watch your refund get approved and next time don't buy a game until 1-2 weeks after it comes out or when its on sale because if its that good you can WAIT

[–]Spalunking01 144ポイント145ポイント  (14子コメント)

It's like being confused as to why you can't return a shirt because you explain to the store owner that you just needed it for a party that night instead of saying it didn't fit.

[–]GarbageTheClown 47ポイント48ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah, but the shirt says on it that it's 15% polyester, when I heard from a news article that it was 25%. The manufacturer lied to me. I wore it for a long time to make sure it didn't feel like it had 25% polyester, and boy it didn't.

EDIT: To clarify: The news article wasn't written by the manufacturing company, or it's marking team. The manufacturer at one point implied it could have more polyester and it was blown out of proportion by fashionistas and fashion news outlets.

I bought such said shirt after pre-ordering it, checking all the label and washing information. I wore it off an on for about 19 hours. I might wear it again, but I've got so many clothing options, some which I haven't even tried on yet.

[–]PhilW1010 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I'd say it's more like buying a shirt, getting home and finding out its a thong.

It's still an article of clothing, but missing a lot of what you expected and doesn't quite fit how you wanted it to.

[–]hambog 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but they still rejected your return claim

[–]Goddess_Jessica 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think I read you have to message them often and annoy them

[–]uplusion23 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same issue for me. I've sent in three requests

[–]MrStealYoBeef 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's rough. Instead of NMS, I decided to buy Elite: Dangerous. I played it for two hours, then refunded it. After refunding it, I bought the bundle for it, which comes with the game, the dlc, and the ship skins pack, $20 value added free. I did this because it was actually really good for the time I played, where I learned how to fly around, dock, fight, do some trading, some missions, explore a couple systems, etc. Because the game felt meaningful. It was worth the extra 30 bucks. The base game is only 30 and was fun, the dlc adds more and also let's you land on planets and use a rover to explore the planets, there's bases on planets and moons, there's crashed ships, next update brings aliens, certain systems are heavily populated and it shows, cartoon systems are completely empty, there are entire sections of galaxy completely unexplored and to can fly out, explore it, then come back to civilization, to the things that you've done. And you get paid for that exploring too. You can do it without needing to mine for resources, all you need is fuel and you get that from stars, which pops up right in front of you every time you hyperdrive to a new system. It's quick, easy, and painless, so the survivability aspect doesn't get in the way of the exploring like it does in NMS. All around, a much more challenging and rewarding game. Based in the milky way galaxy, and there are plenty of planets and star systems to go around without needing 18 quintillion. And multiplayer.

[–]bokudoku 96ポイント97ポイント  (22子コメント)

Time to pre-order something with that refund money!

[–]CanuckPanda 62ポイント63ポイント  (14子コメント)

Pokemon Sun/Moon!

Because Nintendo delivers (by way of Amazon)!

[–]SegataSanshiro 47ポイント48ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's a Pokemon game, and Amazon sells the steelbook with both games.

Worst-case scenario, I hate the game but can sell the steelbook, probably for more than I spent on it. Nintendo and ESPECIALLY Pokemon games exist in an alternate dimension where a game's price goes UP over time, not down(or at least stays roughly the same).

[–]topdangle 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

With pokemon games you get pretty much exactly what you expect with some additional frills. Hard to be disappointed when buying a pokemon game unless you have no idea what pokemon is. Information is available all over the place, unlike all the secrecy behind NMS.

[–]caninehere 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that but first party Nintendo games have a level of polish you don't find anywhere else.

Worst case scenario, the game is not that great, but it will never, EVER be a broken mess like NMS was. And most of their games are pretty great anyway. Even the "bad" titles like Star Fox Zero are pretty damn fun, they're just not $60 fun.

[–]The_Kaizz 91ポイント92ポイント  (46子コメント)

SAme, I called PSN and just asked if I could get a refund on NMS. They gave me a 1 time policy, $59.99 back in my wallet. The lady said it's been a long time since she's heard of so many people asking for a refund on a game. There's a reason why smh.

[–]weevil_boy 263ポイント264ポイント  (41子コメント)

Because all you dingleberries preordered or bought the game before reviews came out. That's why.

[–]TempAcct20005 56ポイント57ポイント  (34子コメント)

I still remember freshman year in college back when halo two came out. Standing in line going to buy the game without preordering, some douche bags who went to my college asked if I had pre-ordered. "No." "Are you in high school? You must be if you didn't think ahead to pre-order." "Nah man, I just know that these companies order twice as many games as the preorders so thanks for ordering my game for me." I walked in and bought it like a normal person. 50 copies on the shelves (small town). Then the dorms had a tournament and I had 40 kills on his weak ass team. I swear I'm not bitter

[–]matandana 54ポイント55ポイント  (16子コメント)

"Are you in high school" is such a college freshman insult

[–]Hurrah_for_Karamazov 26ポイント27ポイント  (14子コメント)

""Are you in high school" is such a college freshman insult" is such a college sophomore insult.

[–]Shabop 12ポイント13ポイント  (13子コメント)

"""Are you in high school" is such a college freshman insult" is such a college sophomore insult." Is such college junior joke.

[–]rkgoodhew11 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Thanks for ordering my game for me"....what a savage.

[–]HubbaMaBubba 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you're standing in line waiting for release you might as well preorder. The point is that you wait for reviews.

[–]calamity_joe 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

I refunded my digital copy for the PS4 yesterday. It was at the very tail end of the 14 day limit (like hours) and I'd played about 4.5 hours.

The lady on the phone was amazing. She was super kind and just asked my why I wanted a refund. I told her it just didn't seem finished. I'd read the features promised in interviews and game sites and few seemed present or even working.

She said, "I totally understand that." Which she's probably trained to say but gave me no problems. She just put me on hold for a few minutes and I instantly had the funds in my account again.

I called Sony for support maybe 6 years ago and I felt it wasn't helpful. This time, I felt like it was just the easiest thing in the world.

Go get your refund. Even if you're on the fence about it, refund yourself and buy it again in a few months when it's $15

[–]caninehere 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go get your refund. Even if you're on the fence about it, refund yourself and buy it again in a few months weeks when it's $15

Seriously, I buy used games on kijiji here in Canada and people are already selling used copies of the PS4 game for $35-40 (for reference it's $80 CAD for the game new which is $90-something after tax).

[–]bob_sagget 54ポイント55ポイント  (44子コメント)

No mans sky: all hype, no substance.

This November, star citizen is finally complete.

[–]Finaldzn 32ポイント33ポイント  (7子コメント)

citizen con incomming

[–]itonlygetsworse 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

The game isn't ready. They better have a fucking metric ton of surprises to have their own gaming con.

Shooting is not polished, not even close. Space combat not even close to polished. Everything else in the world hasn't even been implemented outside basic features and a quest system that right now looks like its nothing more than:

  1. Go here to talk to Quest Giver
  2. Go there to kill spawned enemies
  3. Repeat

[–]FortunePaw 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are not even feature complete yet. Polish existing feature should be on the lower priorty end.

[–]TheMrBoot 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

They've had their own "con" for several years now. Also, yeah, Star Citizen the MMO is no where near complete. That's years out. The single player has a chance to be out this year, but that's because a lot of the things that are needed for the MMO won't be required for the single player. I wouldn't be surprised if Squadron 42 is delayed until Q1 2017.

[–]Shippoyasha 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

NMS was disappointing on an epic scale, but if Star Citizen doesn't live up to the hype, it's going to be more catastrophic since it had millions put into its development by the gamers themselves. For good reason, failed kickstarters always creates a huge firestorm. This one could be the gaming firestorm of the century if it fails.

[–]dd179 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thing with SC is, that unlike NMS the entire development process is shown to the backers, hell they can even play it as it comes out, so everyone knows what's coming. NMS had a bunch of stage demos and secrecy behind it, nobody knew what the actual game would be until it was released.

[–]ragingdeltoid 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which should have been enough of a red flag

[–]Josheru 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

2nd only to the review embargo.

Any game with a review embargo is immediately not worth purchasing, and I question the intelligence of anyone who thinks otherwise.

[–]aigroti 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

If Star Citizen fails I wouldn't be surprised if the whole "crowdfunding bubble" just completely collapses with people only investing smalls amounts of money (like $10) for indie games.

Projects asking for more than this will just have people point to the flop Star Citizen was and not put their money in another person's hands until they see a product.

[–]MatticusXII 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This will totally overshadow no man's sky and HG

[–]typtyphus 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

so no need to say he loved the olympics

[–]WebMaka 495ポイント496ポイント  (48子コメント)

I bought it a day in advance at full price. I'm nine warps from start, have 48 slots on my backpack and a 30-slot ship and 8+ million units banked. I tend to ignore pre-release hype and just went with the fact that it was billed to be a great explore-whore game, and it is.

It wasn't worth $60. It would have been great at $30 as-is even with the missing features, and amazing at $20. Subsequently, claims that NMS was a cash grab of a subpar release in order to cash in on the hype are hard to argue against. Full triple-A zero-day pricing for what was delivered is absurd, and hopefully Hello Games realizes this and drops the price before they get absolutely wrecked by the refund train.

Still, I am enjoying it, and don't plan on seeking a refund. I paid my $ for it, I am actually enjoying what they delivered (overpriced though I think it was), and it's not fair to Hello Games to penalize them with a full-amount refund request for something from which I am actually deriving entertainment value. That having been said, if Hello Games decides to offer DLC for NMS and demands money for it they'll deserve to be set on fire.

EDIT: Holy crap, goldness?!

[–]Escheron 33ポイント34ポイント  (19子コメント)

amazing at $20

when it drops to $20, i'm sold

[–]25russianbear25 23ポイント24ポイント  (17子コメント)

every disappointing game goes 75% off for winter sale

i dont understand people who cant wait few months to play the game, especially if its single players....wtf

[–]ryanppax 75ポイント76ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agree with you there. I bought the game a few days ago actually. I left myself in the dark to all the pre release hype and had nothing to be disappointed about. Yes the game has flaws and gets pretty repetitive but it sure is a good exploration game

[–]conman987 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like this attitude. Sure it's fun sometimes to watch the world (Hello Games) burn over slights like this, but I'm an adult, with a job, and some spending money for games. With Amazon Prime's discount I preordered the physical PS4 limited edition and got it for about $63 , and it's a pretty good looking package. I'm a bit disappointed in the missing features but I find myself still jumping all over the system collecting resources, building up credits and working towards buying a bigger ship. It's all still pretty good fun to me.

[–]LeftyMode 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Elite Dangerous is $36 on XBL right now. (All content so far)

[–]Darksouldarkweiner 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I enjoy the game but it clearly needs more content. And not just a little but a lot. I expect free updates and patches for a long while and then I'll pay for very good dlc only once a new player can feel like vanilla is satisfying.

[–]Ronicstar 74ポイント75ポイント  (36子コメント)

Where is sean murry? He took our money and ran didn't he.

[–]D3adkl0wn 92ポイント93ポイント  (6子コメント)

Crushed to death under the weight of a collapsed money fort.

Though, most likely he's been told to STFU and say nothing by Lawyers, Sony or whoever else.

[–]Wolfje_ 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can almost guarantee that this is what happened. Not that he would want to get on Reddit anyway and cop the pitchforks.

[–]naturallyfrozen 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really intrigued. Can't wait for the tell-all book about Kojima/Konami, NMS/Sony, etc. etc.

[–]1jl 46ポイント47ポイント  (2子コメント)

"A million consumers refunding their games on steam in the first few weeks - that has blown my mind"

"It's a testament to how amazing our network coders are that Refunds are still working at all."

[–]johnwallcenabell 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

So many question! Amazing!

[–]MoldyVortex15 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This really blows my mind.

[–]GENERAL_A_L33 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Has he even said anything since the infamous statement? I can't seem to find anything after a quick google search.

[–]Timetravel263 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

No ! i looked over the NMS twitter and it's been 10 days since last tweet, are they dead?

[–]Doorman361 59ポイント60ポイント  (10子コメント)

I haven't said anything about this, not that my opinion matters anyway but, I saw this shit coming from a mile a way after watching a few trailers like a year back. I'm genuinely surprised other people are surprised that the game wasn't the best thing ever after watching an hour or so of gameplay.

[–]SondeySondey 32ポイント33ポイント  (4子コメント)

After playing Starbound, I knew exactly what "infinite procedurally generated universe" meant.
It sounds very sexy until you realize how uninspired, bland and therefore ultimately repetitive environments generated by soulless algorythms are.
Nevertheless, NMS trailers were still pretty misleading, promising important features that weren't all that crazy but still weren't in the final version.

[–]Red_Oktoberfest 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Its only making me more thirsty for the Star Citizen release.

If they fuck up SC the internet may actually break a little.

[–]yogiman300 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

I own the game and its okay, I like exploring planets and seeing how theyve developed. For me, the game is exactly what I expected though. It is basically a space explorer simulation, and other than the meeting other players, what else did Hello Games actually lie about? Can anybody clarify specific examples?

[–]Doom-Slayer 83ポイント84ポイント  (15子コメント)

The thing I find the most amusing is the mental gymnastics some of the more hardened apologists come up with. Now not all people who like it are like that obviously..but some..

I understand wanting to justify your purchase or going against the circlejerk but jesus. Some great things people repeat

Treat it like early access

Its their first game so we have to be nice

Its not illegal because none of the misleading things are on the product page.

And on and on.

[–]TorontoBayBurger 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

For that third one: they actually do have stuff on the Steam store page that is not in the game. The trailer that auto-plays on the page features the large space battles and moving freighters that is not actually in the game. The gymnastics involved deserve an olympic medal.

[–]SwissQueso 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

There actually is moving freighters in it?

I'll admit the space battles are really subpar.

[–]Elgin_McQueen 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sounds like with future mods they've built a great starting point for a massive elite style game.

[–]riegspsych325 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

it's like the idea is there, but it was executed without the needed depth. i wonder what could be done with a community of modders

[–]Kudhos 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean minecraft had more depth

[–]FreshGuile 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget, it has never been $60. Not even close. So even if some people took issue with its depth, they weren't out of too much money, unlike No Man's Sky.

[–]Whatamidoing82648 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

They should be animated video makers, because the trailer was kickass. Not video game makers.

[–]deadaim_ 17ポイント18ポイント  (19子コメント)

reminds me of the diablo 3 launch. game was terrible, but holy shit the forums was some of the funniest roasting I have ever read.

[–]cattopantsu 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]DrDuncanVonBurndubs 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

Can you sum up what was so bad about the game when it launched? I played d3 way back when it was brand new but I don't remember thinking it was a disastrous game.

[–]MobilePandsu 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

D3 at launch was mostly roasted for being a dumbed down D2 with prettier graphics. The game play was shallow comparing it to its predecessor.

Blue gears were miles better at the time of launched (rarity wise it goes;white->blue->yellow->orange) simply because getting your main Stat on yellows and legendaries was a pain in the ass to begin with, but add in trying to get main Stat on top of decent secondary stats was a damn nightmare. You would finally find Rares with better stats but the grind was pretty brutal and RNG is never a pleasant mistress.

Legendary especially were a disappointment. If you actually managed to get your main Stat on it, the other stats were complete garbage most the time. That's if you even managed to get one, I think my first lenegardy at launch was somewhere 70+ hours in.

Skill trees being removed were some of the biggest complaints. You get every skill, every rune, and can switch whenever out of combat. You don't build your character. This hasn't changed, but gear now tells you what skills to use (thanks sets...)

This is just to name a few and ignoring error 37 fiasco.

[–]IThinkIKnowThings 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It largely depended on whether you'd played the previous Diablo games. 3 was vastly different and, some would say, "watered down" in comparison to it's predecessors. Plus some found the voice acting pretty laughable and felt the overall tone of the game was kind of a parody of a Diablo game. You have to remember, few of the people who worked on 3 had worked on any of the other Diablo games. Most of that crew left to found Runic Games.

[–]Zelera 35ポイント36ポイント  (16子コメント)

This game will go down as one of the most over hyped games of all time.

[–]Kaibakura 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Somehow I didn't start hearing about it until the day it came out.

[–]ZebraBrainLunchbox 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

Eh, maybe for the under 30 crowd. I don't think it quite touches Daikatana, Duke Nukem Forever or Spore.

[–]RVEO_Cia 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

Spore was honestly better than this game. At least the content was there. Creature stage shenanigans and such.

[–]grandmoffcory 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it'll probably just fade into obscurity pretty quickly. Reddit and a lot of the online gaming community in general is an echo chamber, in reality I don't think most gamers really give a shit. I never read about this game and haven't played it. It was never hyped to the level of something like Spore, Daikatana, or Fable - though Fable I do love regardless.

[–]MrOznerol 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

So where does the hate stem from? I keep reading about it but I don't play it so I don't know. What's wrong with the game?

[–]Symen_4ab 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

The game is actually not that horrible. It would be ok for early access 20$. You discover everything you can do in the first 2 hours, and then it's an endless grind with nothing different on sight. The first 2 hours, though, are pretty cool ! I, and most of the buyers, can't justify 60$ for 2 hours of entertainment.

Also, the dev lied about features that aren't in the game at all. That didn't help

[–]Elec7ricmonk 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really sucks enjoying this game, posting a screenshot and wading through 'Sean lied' and 'everyone be as pissed as me or else' comments.

[–]-Wicked3Studios- 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everyone's having fun tearing down NMS and I'm just over here having fun finding space dinos and defending merchant ships from pirates. Different strokes I guess. Only got a PS4 about a month ago so barely had any exposure to the hype, from every conversation I've had it seems like this is what's the main dividing factor between those that hate or enjoy the game. The best example of this is Angry Joe's and HelloGreedo's reviews, both touch on the pros and cons but both have very different opinions on the product we received.

[–]Lord_Tony 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree I like the game.

[–]blackmako85 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We know. Dear god we know.

[–]TehAgent 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read that you can get a refund on Steam no matter how many hours played if you appeal the initial denial.

I was tempted, but I did play it for 39 hours. I suppose that's 60$ worth of enjoyment. Plus the trolling I did to kids and their 'look at all my Emeril' posts.

I'll probably just keep it and play it some time again. Plus you never know, maybe some of those features will actually be added.

[–]lawlessness01 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The game is actually really fun, u just need tons drugs

[–]Monochrome21 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

And I'm just sitting here enjoying the game and not making salty memes about it.

[–]dotslashhookflay 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that doesn't get you that sweet and salty karma.

[–]jay_jay203 10ポイント11ポイント  (14子コメント)

this generation of games has been pretty underwhelming in general tbh, dont get me wrong there have been a few awesome ones but alot of games havent lived up to what devs or publishers have promised or showed.

[–]relaxok 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think there's going to be backlash to the backlash soon.