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[Longpost] Inceldom is worse than Rape (self.Incels)

AutisticSubhuman23 year old rotting corpse が 投稿

I believe that either inceldom is a worse fate than being raped, or they are two incomparable sufferings.

First, let's compare the two. Inceldom is the result of being a complete societal reject. It means everyone in the world either hates you, finds you sexually repulsive, or has no interest in you. Being an incel requires daily reflection on this fact because man is simply not meant to live this way. It is unlikely not experienced in this, women especially, can fathom this unique and painful hell. Being alone to the extent we are could be compared to actual torture inflicted upon the worst criminals in the world. Because of this Incels regularly cycle between the emotions of violent hate, severe depression, and abject fear. I can tell you there hasn't been a moment in my life for the past 5 years where I have felt a single positive emotion.

On the opposite side, unless you're a Josef Fritzl kid or a complete whore (will expand on this later), rape is a singular ordeal. I have no doubt that it's painful and traumatic, but its victims are able to wake up and know that their suffering is over and they just have to deal with the mental fallout. As an Incel, every day I wake up, I have to prepare myself that all I will experience is mental anguish and suffering and there is nothing I can do to stop this. Victims of rape are able to go on to live happy lives with partners after their ordeal. They are able to go out with friends and have fun. They are able to go to events, concerts etc. All of these little life experiences they have are denied to Incels. Rape victims at least know that they are desirable to society by something; their body. Incels feel completely useless to everyone on earth, no one cares about them for anything.

Secondly, Rape is far, far easier to prevent than Inceldom is. All you have to do to be an Incel is be born as a male without the traits to succeed socially in whatever arbitrary society you were born in. I was fated into Inceldom simply due to my genetics and never had any hope to escape it. Men may enter inceldom purely due to a single bad life choice, such as going to a private high school, not hitting on a certain goal, having an introverted youth etc.

On the contrary I would assume that around 90% of rape victims have brought upon themselves. Obviously children and those who were simply grabbed in alleyways have my pity, but these are a rarity of cases. Most rapes occur from the following two things: 1. Being a terrible judge of character and 2. Partaking in seriously dangerous behavior.

On the first type of rape, we live in a world where most of the rapes occur by someone a woman knows. This is because in sexually liberal societies such as ours women will always want to hang out with the "Bad boys" and who they view as dominant and cool but are in reality just lecherous creeps (moreso than any Incel could ever be.) Well, if they hang around these people and get raped then you have no pity in my book because there are plenty of decent men being ignored by society they could have chosen to hang with. If you sleep with dogs don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas.

On the second type of rape, I would argue that most of these are preventable because they are the result of another bad decision. For example, going out drunk to places where there will be many male strangers is obviously very dangerous behavior but feminists have taught society that it is "slut-shaming" to state this. This is the main reason why I think the whole "rape crisis" bullshit is overblown. If women truly feared and were broken by rape they wouldn't be willing to go out every Saturday night and end up in the beds of strangers. They would be too afraid to even engage in this behavior. The fact that they're willing to even risk it proves either rape is overblown in the amount of trauma it inflicts upon someone, or women are truly too stupid to see that B comes after A. Either way if there were a single thing I had to give up in life, even if it profoundly impacted the way in which my life is set up, I would be willing to do so in a heartbeat. That's how serious inceldom is to me. I would be willing to give up the internet, drugs, any type of my favorite food, if it meant a chance of finding love, intimacy and acceptance.

Finally, there are many resources available to women who have been raped. Rape crisis centers, tumblr blogs, online help sites, therapists etc. There are buildings in this world funded by taxpayer dollars for the sole sake of rape. What do Incels have to deal with their own issues? Nothing. Just a couple of small internet refuges scattered across the web, many of which have become invaded by the same normies that we have been rejected by. We have been systemically denied a public voice due to the fact we are social rejects, and every time we try to appeal for sympathy we are shut down by hateful demagogues who hurl insults like "Entitled", "Manchild" and "Loser" at us. Any small dose of sympathy we get from people outside our own circle is merely virtue signaling, these people just don't care about us at all and if they do all they feel is hatred.

Also, seeing as though how the main issue to deal with rapes is just the mental fallout, meaning many traditional methods of mental healthcare are effective in treating it such as therapy and psychiatry. Getting through these issues with a therapist is easy and the fact that you have your voice not denied, but elevated by society, makes coming back from being a rape victim a much more seamless process. Fixing Inceldom through therapy and psychiatry is a ludicrous goal, to the extent that we ban anyone who suggests this. Therapy does not help incels because mental health professionals are unable to fix the root causes of our situation, being societal rejects with wasted youths. They cannot change reality. They can only make us cope with what is a lifetime prison sentence, which is bullshit.

This post is getting long now but I hope you read it all. It is important for this topic to come up because it proves how pathetically easy a woman's life is, and how utterly incapable they are of fathoming our situation. Rape, the "worst thing that can happen to a woman" is a situation that is completely benign comparable to the horrors, the pure unending agony of Inceldom. We are broken souls, rejected at every level, and destined to die alone without a single soul to share our lives with. Don't downplay how we feel, because I guarantee you that you can't grasp with what this life feels like unless you've experienced it directly.

That said I welcome all criticism and debate. I am a man, meaning that there are some realities of rape that I do not understand. Though from careful analysis it seems like inceldom is way worse than being raped.

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[–]calivaporeon19, Non-incel 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you believe that rape victims are able to "wake up and know their suffering is over", you are gravely mistaken. I'm sorry, but you don't really seem to have a grasp on the reality of such a heinous action. It isn't just over when the act is over. That shit stays with you for years, resulting in years of trauma and the rap and guilt, and I say guilt because they start to believe they must of have brought it upon themselves because of the victim blaming you expressed in your post. If they know their attacker(most attackers are people who know the victim, not random strangers), then they have the potential to have to deal with seeing that person multiple times a week, and more likely than not that person may try to pass off the attack and blame the victim. Please, don't even try to compare it. There is nothing wrong with expressing your sadness over being an incel, but claiming that rape victims do not suffer longtime is just rude and untrue and if you truly think that then you are living a fantasy life.

[–]dsar9013 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women can't understand the pain of incels, though, even worse they don't try to understand, and EVEN worse than that, is they often dismiss and hate on incels and say we are just "entitled".

I don't claim too be entitled to a woman, but it makes my life significantly worse that I have never been in a sexual/romantic relationship and almost every one gets that, except incels.

[–]calivaporeon19, Non-incel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

None of my comment was even related to a woman understanding the life of an incel. Actually, I'm quite confused by your reply because it doesn't seem to address anything I mentioned in my comment. But if we're going to bring that up, then you could say that an incel can't claim to understand the life and pain of a rape victim and make claims that the OP did with no experience or first-hand knowledge of the subject, just like I don't claim to completely understand incel life because I have no experience of firsthand knowledge of it.

I don't think I've ever claimed to completely understand or have really dismissed incels, merely replied to certain viewpoints I find interesting. If I have, I'm sorry, not my intention.

[–]Shoutsdicksr/Incel Jesus saves! Ask me how. 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men can't be raped? What about by another guy, like prison-style?

[–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 12ポイント13ポイント  (17子コメント)

okay……so like no?

like…just, no, dude

[–]bunnings_warehousecompulsive masturbator 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you know? Have you experienced both? Many men commit suicide from depression resulting from incel, how can you say that's not at least equally as bad as the trauma from rape?

[–]AutisticSubhuman23 year old rotting corpse[S] -7ポイント-6ポイント  (15子コメント)

Not an argument

[–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh i'll be back with one, don't worry. it's just 6am where i live and i'm getting my bearings

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    [–]mcnoshave25m/Chad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Slow clap, well said.

    edit: Holy shit rekt! feels more appropriate. That was one of the best smack downs I've ever seen.

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    [–]dsar9013 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Your comment was removed for being rude and insulting an incel. Telling him to pull his head from his ass and grow up.

    [–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    okay i reposted it without those things.

    [–]azavii -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

    you guys have multiple, on multiple occasions, compared yourselves to the following:

    -abuse victims

    -refugees

    -racial minorities

    -sexual minorities

    get some fucking perspective. you are not any of those things. you do not have it worse than people who have any of those things

    Incels have it worse than all those groups who live in the West (so not counting, say, gay people in Iran).

    Lol at anyone who think the average gay guy or middle eastern woman in Canada or America has it as bad incels.

    [–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

    okay, let's play a game.

    i want you to find me all of pyshical attacks and acts of murder made against incels, for being incel, and then i'm going to find the same for LGBT and minorities living in the west.

    i'll edit my comment with my articles, and i expect you to reply with yours as well.

    [–]azavii -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Incels are far too small of a percentage to make up any sort of statistics.

    This is a terrible comparison of who has it worse anyway, just because some middle eastern people were killed for being middle eastern, doesn't mean the rest of the 99% aren't living normal, happy lives.

    [–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    ………the law literally prevents queer people in the west from doing certain things. same-sex marriage literally wasn't legal in the united states until last year. it was literally a year ago that gay people in the united states were allowed to get married across the board.

    discrimination against queer people isn't something that's all across the board in the united states either. only 21 states actually have protection for transgender people, only 17 states consider crimes against transgender people as hate crimes, 1 state, out of fifty, says that you can't use "Gay panic" as a defense for murder or assault (meaning you murdered or assaulted someone because they were gay and you panicked). and then of course there's how only 22 states have laws protecting queer people from housing discrimination.

    just some little facts about how easy and good LGBT people in the states have it.

    [–]azavii -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I agree trans people have it very bad.

    But I wouldn't say the average gay person, non-white person or refugee (in the west, not counting how bad it was where they are coming from) has it as bad. Abuse victims it depends, if you were hit once you are still a abuse victim, so different levels of severity there.

    [–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    ……you can literally murder a gay person in america and say "oh i was scared cause they hit on me" and that can be your entire legal defense. that is a valid legal defense, in 49 states.

    in 28 states you can be denied a house/apartment/condo, for your sexual/gender.
    in 16 states you can be fired for your gender/sexual identity.

    you don't risk being fired for being incel, you don't risk losing your house or being denied a house because you're incel, your life isn't at risk because you're incel.

    [–]azavii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just because you can use it as defense doesn't mean it will be accepted as one. I highly doubt it's been accepted once in all of 2016 for example.

    you don't risk being fired for being incel, you don't risk losing your house or being denied a house because you're incel, your life isn't at risk because you're incel.

    I don't face these problems being middle eastern or a refugee too. While maybe there is like a 1% chance, but it doesn't effect my life at all. Being incel is much worse than both combined, and this is as a person that is all 3.

    [–]rosechiffonselfish, college educated woman 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    first of all, LMAO at you sticking your post because everyone was downvoting it.

    On the first type of rape, we live in a world where most of the rapes occur by someone a woman knows. This is because in sexually liberal societies such as ours women will always want to hang out with the "Bad boys" and who they view as dominant and cool but are in reality just lecherous creeps (moreso than any Incel could ever be.) Well, if they hang around these people and get raped then you have no pity in my book because there are plenty of decent men being ignored by society they could have chosen to hang with. If you sleep with dogs don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas.

    That's not how it works. Often times, it's figures that people (not just women, people) trust. Family members, family friends, doctors, close friends, authority figures (teachers, youth group leaders, pastors, etc). it's not people who you can just tell are violent and awful, it is people who you trust and don't know what their intentions are.

    also, let's not forget grooming. grooming, which is the act of pedophiles, predators, rapists, take advantage of people who aren't in good situations (abusive homes, neglect, lonely, depressed, etc) and make them feel valued and appreciated, they groom them into making them think that they are a trusted figure, that they are someone who they can be close to, they take advantage of them.

    that is what they mean when it's people that they know. these are people that people know and trust who abuse their power.

    On the second type of rape, I would argue that most of these are preventable because they are the result of another bad decision. For example, going out drunk to places where there will be many male strangers is obviously very dangerous behavior but feminists have taught society that it is "slut-shaming" to state this. This is the main reason why I think the whole "rape crisis" bullshit is overblown. If women truly feared and were broken by rape they wouldn't be willing to go out every Saturday night and end up in the beds of strangers. They would be too afraid to even engage in this behavior. The fact that they're willing to even risk it proves either rape is overblown in the amount of trauma it inflicts upon someone, or women are truly too stupid to see that B comes after A. Either way if there were a single thing I had to give up in life, even if it profoundly impacted the way in which my life is set up, I would be willing to do so in a heartbeat. That's how serious inceldom is to me. I would be willing to give up the internet, drugs, any type of my favorite food, if it meant a chance of finding love, intimacy and acceptance.

    so first off, a woman shouldn't go out and have fun because she fears she might be raped? that's not how it works. the onus isn't on women for going out. it's for predators who go out and do shit like that, who knowingly hang around to take advantage of drunk people, who go around putting shit in people's drinks just because they can. they're the people who fucked up and made mistakes, not people wh were affected by the shit that they've done, because you know what? they did nothing wrong, they went out to have a good time.

    no person deserves to come to or wake up to a dude fucking them, and ignoring them saying to stop just because they went out to drink and have fun with people.

    and then you go on to imply that this shit brings love, intimacy and acceptance??? no. rape is not an act of ANY OF THOSE THINGS. you are not raped out of love. rape is not an intimate act, rape does not mean you have been accepted by this person. that's not how shit works.

    Finally, there are many resources available to women who have been raped. Rape crisis centers, tumblr blogs, online help sites, therapists etc. There are buildings in this world funded by taxpayer dollars for the sole sake of rape. What do Incels have to deal with their own issues? Nothing. Just a couple of small internet refuges scattered across the web, many of which have become invaded by the same normies that we have been rejected by. We have been systemically denied a public voice due to the fact we are social rejects, and every time we try to appeal for sympathy we are shut down by hateful demagogues who hurl insults like "Entitled", "Manchild" and "Loser" at us. Any small dose of sympathy we get from people outside our own circle is merely virtue signaling, these people just don't care about us at all and if they do all they feel is hatred.

    because, believe it or not, one is a real issue that affects many people, men, women, children, old people, everyone in every age range and every group. "inceldom" only affects whoever you guys, on these internet forums, decides it affects. which happens to be males in their late teens to mid 20s. you also say wild shit like this entire post, along with men can't get raped, racist stuff, and other things, and then wonder why no one takes you guys and your "issues" seriously.

    Ages 12-34 are the highest risk years

    this means that in the span of twenty-two years, you are at a high risk to be raped. that is such a vast fucking age group, you can kind of understand why there are more centers and things for people who have been raped.

    In the United States, a rape is reported about once every five minutes.

    this too.

    One in four girls and one in six boys will be sexually abused before they turn 18 years old

    and this.

    63.3% of men at one university who self-reported acts qualifying as rape or attempted rape admitted to committing repeat rapes

    and that.

    One in 5 women and one in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college

    this too.

    so if you want to provide me with some sources that inceldom is as widespread, and needs to be treated with the same level of urgency as rape, i will be happy to look at them.

    Also, seeing as though how the main issue to deal with rapes is just the mental fallout, meaning many traditional methods of mental healthcare are effective in treating it such as therapy and psychiatry.

    no. there's also pregnancy, stds, physical damage, utis. there is a lot more to rape than just "mental damage", and you also need to consider how these "mental damages" can be really severe, to the point where they can harm how a person lives their day to day life.

    Don't downplay how we feel

    this shit right here, /u/AutisticSubhuman is why people downplay how you feel. because posts by incels here, /r/foreverunwanted, /r/truecels are so damn hyperbolic, and over dramatic that people don't take you seriously. you guys have multiple, on multiple occasions, compared yourselves to the following:

    -abuse victims
    -refugees
    -racial minorities
    -sexual minorities

    get some fucking perspective. you are not any of those things. you do not have it worse than people who have any of those things (because, you know for example, in seventy-four countries, is illegal. you can go to jail, you can pay a fine, for something you can't fucking control).

    and like, you know what, i do feel sorry for some of you guys because like making friends is hard, making relationships (intimate or otherwise) is hard, dealing with depression is really really really fucking hard. and i feel that, i really do feel that. but this shit, the dramatic hyperbolic shit, makes it hard for myself and other "normies" to feel bad, because you're sitting here comparing yourself to a rape victim and saying you have it worse.

    oh and here are my sources on my statistics, would love if you provided some of yours now

    http://rapecrisis.com/statistics/
    http://www.911rape.org/facts-quotes/statistics
    http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

    [–]eekkgg 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

    That's a lot of words for something that makes no sense.

    they are two incomparable sufferings.

    Why waste words then.

    [–]snakecharms 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Exactly he contradicts himself right there.

    [–]-CcCc -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    They are incomparable in a sense (an orange and the Holocaust are also incomparable because the former is a fruit while the latter is a historical event) but they can be compared in certain aspects, such as "which caused more people to die", "which is worse", etc. The Holocaust clearly caused more people to die than an orange and living a lonely, empty life, missing out on core aspects such as love, family, sex, socializing, being desired by people of the opposite sex, and being surrounded by people for whom these things are completely normal, is worse than rape. It should be obvious to every sane person.

    [–]PorphyriosMalik27m, kv 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    They are incomparable in a sense [...] but they can be compared in certain aspects, such as which was worse, which is worse, etc

    Any comparison requires that "certain aspect" (which is also called the tertium comparationis).

    edit: Also you are promptly ignoring your own point. "The Holocaust was clearly worse than an orange" is missing that third element in view of which the Holocaust and an orange are compared. Worse in what regard?

    A valid comparison would be something like "The Holocaust caused more people to die than this orange."

    [–]-CcCc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A valid comparison would be something like "The Holocaust caused more people to die than this orange."

    indeed, thanks, I'm gonna fix that

    [–]ForeverOver9000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why does it have to be a fucking competition? Do you want people to feel more sorry for you than for someone that has been raped? Are you jealous that rape victims get sympathy? What the hell is the end goal here?

    You don't need to put other people's suffering down just to get your suffering noticed.

    [–]snakecharms 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

    This is just a bullshit pity party post to try to justify heinous behaviour. You're right, as a man you don't have any idea what it would be like to be raped. I thank my lucky stars that it's never happened to me and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

    I can't even fathom how you think this way of thinking is ok. NO ONE ever asks to be raped!! Are you kidding me??

    Seriously, I hate to say this but this type of thinking is why you're single.

    Get a life and stop comparing not getting your dick wet to a violent and traumatic act.

    [–]not_much_left 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    or they are two incomparable sufferings.

    Yeah, it might be that one.

    [–]BrokenIncelMan28+ incel 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    AS

    What about the extremely violent rapes where the woman is battered and severely injured? Most rapes do not reach this level of violence but a small amount do. Being an incel is emotionally and psychologically painful but it is not physical pain. Do you still think inceldom is worse then these types of rapes?

    [–]AutisticSubhuman23 year old rotting corpse[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    If the rape causes bodily damage that gives the woman chronic irreversible pain or unable to have children then I would say those are worse than inceldom.

    [–]pieceofshiiittt18/F Hot Sexy Piece Of Ass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How do you feel about rapes that result in unwanted pregnancies and/or sexually transmitted diseases?

    [–]BrokenIncelMan28+ incel -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks! You should update your post then to clarify this so people don't misunderstand you.

    [–]BrokenIncelMan28+ incel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How much one suffers depends on the individual and ability to cope.

    Some victims of rape are able to live pretty normally afterwards and others suffer extreme depression and eventually commit suicide.

    Some incels are fine with being alone and others are extremely depressed and lonely like AutisticSubhuman.

    I don't think the two are probalby comparable.

    [–]dsar9013 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I absolutely believe living as an incel for prolonged time, like five years or more, is worse than most, if not all, rape.

    I can't say I really believe rape is worse than being an incel, it is a negative experience that lasts only a short time, compared to being an incel, which is a horrible experience that lasts for years and decades.

    [–]pantynymphwhore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    • Most rapists of women are family members or close friends.

    • A lot of incels claim feminism and man-hating are the cause of sexual inequality, but honestly in this sub all I see is men hating on other men.

    [–]PorphyriosMalik27m, kv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Therapy does not help incels because mental health professionals are unable to fix the root causes of our situation, being societal rejects with wasted youths.

    You can't undo a rape anymore than you can undo a wasted youth.

    Case in point, Lucretia kills herself because she knows that there is no way of regaining the chastity she lost by being raped (chastity not in the sense of being virginal but of having no sexual relations with men other than her husband).
    It doesn't matter that she has a clean conscience - if it is better to die than to live unchaste, then she has to die.

    [–]bunnings_warehousecompulsive masturbator -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Okay so you're gonna get a lot of triggered feminists shouting at you for even attempting to discuss this and calling you the worst person in the world and telling you to kill yourself. Of course they are much more hateful than anyone they criticise, so let's ignore them.

    I think this is like the question of "which is more painful, getting kicked in the balls or going through childbirth". You can't have someone give an objective answer cause how many people have experienced both?

    I think we have to look at the results that occur from both: both lead to depression, very severe in some cases, and even suicide. The suicide rate is much higher for men than women (more women attempt suicide, but only do it for attention and don't actually go through with it).

    Incel does result in severe depression and suicide, while some women aren't even that affected by rape and just walk it off. then again some women receive severe trauma from it and also commit suicide.

    I think its possible for some incels to suffer more than some rape victims, and possible for some rape victims to suffer more than some incels. It all depends on the person.

    And we can't act like a slut who has 50 cocks in her cunt a day is gonna be affected by rape the same day as a pure virgin woman.

    [–]Carkudo -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I agree, actually. But why compare them at all?

    [–]Kgbfnrdo you fucking vape??? 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Doesn't make sense. If you agree, then you clearly agree that they should be compared.

    [–]pieceofshiiittt18/F Hot Sexy Piece Of Ass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I agree, actually. But why compare them at all?

    Agree with what, his post? Then whaddya mean by "Why compare them?" XD Isn't his statement that X(inceldom) is worse than Y(rape) a comparison itself?

    [–]fu_aardvark -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah my faggot uncle raped me several times as a kid but I always get told to kill myself. The earth needs to stop moving when a woman gets raped. It's not something I really understand.