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Every critical thinker is now a Conspiracy Theorist (i.redd.it)

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[–]Not_Joking 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

I found myself having to say this earlier today

... To me, it looks like you're working hard to fit the facts to your narrative.

And then there's this.

You seem most upset by this term, "conspiracy" and you can't let go, as if the last possible option in any situation is that people are conspiring. I get the impression that you are averse to even thinking about it.

And that leads me to believe that you are not being honest, either with me or yourself. And I don't say that to upset you.

Surely, you've read history, and know that that the history of the world is that of people conspiring against each other? People cheat and connive and conspire for no reason other than the sport of it, you can learn this by being a part of the social dynamic of any group of humans. Go to a fifth grade class for a day and you will find little conspirators. It's human nature.

Business, politics, religion, sports, academia ... people make deals, tell lies, keep secrets, act on bad faith, seek advantage.

This is not some wild, exceptional circumstance. We're not talking about lizard people. These are just regular people, and I'm suggesting they are doing regular people things.

[–]swansong19 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1

[–]Ragnarokcometh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lizard people

Think of that in a symbolic sense. Cold blooded people. Not actual alien shit, like a type of personality.

[–]edgecuatro 60ポイント61ポイント  (7子コメント)

Give le anonymous masks a break

[–]sweetb3rrywine 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

Few things make me cringe harder

[–]magnora7 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good messages are combined with cringey images, upvoted to the top of the sub (paid or not) to make us all look like uninformed children

[–]meantartarsauce 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

because nothing says "fight the power" as strong as a mask made in some shitty 3rd world sweatshop. WB found a way to monetize peoples angst, and the keyboard warriors let them.

[–]Captain_Candid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about his tie?

[–]Gravesh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fucking hate the mask. "Anonymous" completely ruined V for Vendetta (best movie ever about where our society is heading).

[–]mydickcuresAIDS 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

*badly .. I love it when douchey pseudo-intellectuals fuck up.

[–]Vaginuh 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Way too cringy to upvote, despite how true it may be.

[–]ZapPowerz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Found the conspiracy theorist!!!!

[–]Gentleman_Retard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really bothers me when someone doesn't do their tie up all the way up and there's that little gap.

[–]shmusko01 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

nothing says critical thinking like wearing a mask from a massive budget hollywood movie whose rights are owned by a billion dollar mega conglomerate. upboats 4 harambe.

[–]Freshmulch 54ポイント55ポイント  (56子コメント)

Our society is hilarious. I had someone argue with me about the legitimacy of lemons being beneficial to the human body the other day...people think I'm crazy because I research topics that stray from the norm, spoon fed view points. Cognitive dissonance is out of control.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

[–]dbillows 13ポイント14ポイント  (49子コメント)

What's your tl:dr about lemons?

[–]Freshmulch 23ポイント24ポイント  (42子コメント)

Tldr- I mentioned I start my day with lemon water and eat the lemons for all the health benefits and balancing pH. He said lemons can't balance pH and tried to argue about it with me for about an hour along with how lemons could possibly be healthy when so acidic, along with how pH means nothing to the human body/nervous system...he's a know it all, argumentative buffoon

[–]dejeneration 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have actually had this same argument with someone. I was lucky enough that when I answered "It seems perverse, but it's true. I don't know why it is, but it is - you can look it up" and that was the end of the conversation, they eventually looked it up, and now they're bigger fans of citrus. :)

[–]Osziris 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's the beauty of smartphones, you can instantly out someone who is wrong if you want to.

[–]dejeneration 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing is, telling people they're wrong actually turns them off to further discussion or further thought about it, as their defensiveness causes them to retreat and thoughts of it later make them feel bad, so they avoid it and don't budge from their views despite obvious evidence. We can see bunches of examples of this in modern politics. People hate know-it-alls and they'll let themselves die in ignorance before they let us win. Better to hide the know-it-all and let them come to it on their own. Kind of wonder if women are better at this way of subtly leading horses to think they found the water on their own - because it's the story of our life. "Well, I'm not sure, but what I've seen is X and I might be wrong, but take a look." Kind of sucks that you can't just say, "X is true, end of story, plenty of evidence, look yourself!" and get people on board, but such is life.

[–]DawnPendraig 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not me. I set an entire society of people against me because of my fervor sharing ideas on specifies appropriate diets for cats. They still hate me but more than half claim to feed it part time 15 years later.

I think being a know it all woman is the most hated. They would tolerate it from a male more or have in my experience.

[–]OgleWogleDogle 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That'll only work for irrelevant factoids. More complex problems with a panoply of contributing factors or even just a few are too, well, uh ... complex for the average pleb to grasp. Yet, more often than not, it'll be those subjects we'll try to discuss, mainly to get the attention of the folks around us.

And even then it'll all come down to the sources you consulted. Anything goes on the internet and you'll already find more than enough contradiction in just a few sentences of the same text, whatever the reputation of the source might be. We all around here know to darn well how you cannot trust the official narrative on just about anything anymore, nor can we take the opposite end of the spectrum at face value. The only thing we can do, is to put both contrasts side by side and derive some useful info ... and that's still not proof of anything.

[–]Freshmulch 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lol exactly, I always tell him to just do his own research, but he chooses the most mainstream aligned belief and ends his research there...like most people

I feel like I had the same effect on him, but he would never admit it, he's just an asshole like that.

[–]Vitalogy0107 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anything not supported by the rockefeller medical model is "quackery" these days.

[–]godlameroso 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, using cannabis oil to treat a tumor, or psilocybin to treat PTSD, quackery. Now use fast tracked poisons approved by the fda with very little testing, and horrible side effects with people lining up for class action lawsuits, that's just good science.

[–]DawnPendraig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Snopes would never lie /sarc

[–]IanPhlegming 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

An hour with that type of person is 59 minutes too much.

"Do not give that which is holy to dogs, cast not ye your pearls before swine," a really wise guy once said. Good advice, still.

[–]heyimrick 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Proof? Your body naturally maintains a pH balance within 7.35 - 7.45 unless you have a respiratory or metabolic issue in your kidneys.

I would like to see some real evidence of lemons have an effect on your pH levels.

[–]krackers 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is none. As you mentioned your blood is buffered at slightly higher than 7 and eating lemons isn't really going to change that. In fact, changing that pH, if possible, would be detrimental since many proteins might denature outside of that range.

[–]heyimrick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured.. Right off the bat sounded like mumbo jumbo.. I monitor pH levels of my patients regularly so my bs detector was going off immediately.

[–]dbillows 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite type of people....

[–]SecretSquirrel1988 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

Not necessarily responding to you, but a little more information to anyone who is curious:

When fire burns wood, it leaves behind ash from the reaction. Much the same thing happens inside of your body (although chemically). Lemons by themselves are acidic, but when your body consumes them, it leaves behind basic 'ash', which in turn raises your internal PH.

tl;dr Acidic lemons make you less acidic because science.

[–]Theappunderground 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not one single word of that is true. Your body doesnt make ash, so right off the bat we can easily deduce its complete bullshit.

[–]SecretSquirrel1988 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are right, the body doesn't produce ash. Notice the quotation marks around the word, ash was used as an analogy. Saying Usain Bolt runs like a cheetah isn't calling him a cheetah, thus invalidating the statement.

[–]Freshmulch 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

correct :). this is the info i had found as well. one the surface makes no sense as something so acidic logically would not positively affect our bodies pH, but science to the rescue.

[–]unruly_mattress 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

his is the info i had found as well

Wow so critical. Tell me, which side is the positive side of the pH, the acidie or the alkaline?

[–]SecretSquirrel1988 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Acidity has lower numbers, and alkalinity has higher numbers. Google "PH chart."

[–]krackers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you link the information?

Blood in the body is buffered at a pH slightly higher than 7. If your blood pH is significantly off, something is significantly wrong and you need to see a health professional. Eating lemons isn't going to do a damn thing otherwise.

[–]DawnPendraig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we passed around some studies many years ago about live culture vinegar in water, commonly comsumed by Japanese?, helping digest complex carbs with less insulin spikes and resulting insulin resistance.

[–]Poppekas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't call a vague metaphor for an explanation science.

[–]unruly_mattress 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which internal pH?

[–]democracystrikesback 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

yep, one can only marvel at such people who quote verbatim the tv, or a newspaper, or some out of date degree, or agenda driven college text book. such closed minds, such unwillingness to entertain new ideas or possibilities...

i pity them.

[–]Freshmulch 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

It was insane, he literally scoured the internet to find the one article that matched his viewpoint (which he would not let me see) that apparently said our bodies can't convert the acidity of a lemon to positively affect ph, his claim was its actually well accepted fact when research shows it does benefit our bodies ph...

I ended the discussion saying, why do you care if I eat lemons anyway haha.

It's unbelievable how brainwashed people are and how they attack and ridicule so quickly any belief that does not follow their world view.

I found the article he was basing his argument off of...

Https://chriskresser.com/the-ph-myth-part-1

What a load of garbage

[–]Dragofireheart 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember when the government spying on us via the internet with some group of hackers was considered fiction.

[–]democracystrikesback 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

at least he did a tiny bit of research to see if you are right or wrong, most alas will not even do that before rejecting outright the new information

[–]Freshmulch 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He initially rejected it, then when I read him an article citing 20 benefits of lemons he had to find something proving otherwise for some reason

[–]unruly_mattress 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read him an article citing 20 benefits of lemons

Ugh these are the worst offenders when it comes to unscientific bullshit claims. Science looks like "People who eat lemon had a decreased chance of harboring the common cold by 20%, and here are possible mechanisms for it, further research is required". Science does not look like "20 amazing ways lemons can CHANGE your life! #14 is INCREDIBLE!".

I once shouted at the screen when I read in an online "health magazine" that pears cure cancer, as the last item in a list of 8 or 9 of their amazing "benefits".

[–]ragecry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[–]unruly_mattress -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This article is actually very convincing. Your viewpoint is probably wrong.

[–]OB1_kenobi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

such people who quote verbatim the tv, or a newspaper, or some out of date degree...

This is a logical fallacy called "arguing from authority" or something like that. I'd bet over 90% of all people fall for this one.

TPTB and their underlings in the MSM really have pulled off one of the greatest tricks in history. They've managed to convince people that authority = factual accuracy 100% of the time.

So they can put whatever they like on the news and the vast majority of people will accept it as the gospel truth. Most people are so deeply programmed with this belief that it's almost impossible to convince them that the stuff they see on the news might be crap.

[–]godlameroso 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the pH comment that makes me pity his ignorant ass.

[–]the_ocalhoun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How often do you test your blood PH to determine if it needs to be more acidic or not?

[–]bashar_speaks 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can just test the pH of your saliva or urine. It varies a lot depending on someone's lifestyle habits, especially diet.

[–]Lifting1488 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Always cracks me up hearing about people doing things for pH levels in their body.

[–]heyimrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously it sounds like bullshit.

[–]thejunesun -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy all the diseases he gets when his body is completely out of pH balance.

[–]unruly_mattress -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mentioned I start my day with lemon water and eat the lemons for all the health benefits and balancing pH.

how pH means nothing to the human body/nervous system

What

[–]ImpotentOligarchs 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

can someone tell me what this means? "tl:dr"

[–]dbillows 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Too long didn't read. But now it's synonymous with "summary"

[–]jargonoid -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you never used the internet before today?

[–]mahatma_arium_nine 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just try to bring up the scientific evidence that sugar is an addictive substance that kills 35 million people every year (7 times more than cigarettes), they'll fucking lynch you.

These apes give that shit to their children like it's cute.

"Scientists have found that sugar is addictive and stimulates the same pleasure centers of the brain as cocaine or heroin. Just like those hard-core drugs, getting off sugar leads to withdrawal and cravings, requiring an actual detox process to wean off."

[–]vgza12 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Beautiful quote! Our society is a shit show; the amount of social engineering and indoctrination doesn't give the average person a chance in hell. I have to admit it's impressive how they've completely hijacked the human psyche, but damn it's fucking sick

[–]Freshmulch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wish the quote were mine : ). I am completely with you, it's honestly incredible how well they have accomplished their goal, not sure a single scheme can even compare to the level of absolute flawless execution they have carried out.

I can see how it seems impossible to most but once you awaking yourself you realize how incredibly easy it is to control the masses

[–]Alexandertheape -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

after the first 2 minutes, you should just say "im sorry, i dont speak caveman" and move on with your life. the alkalizing affect of lemon water is a secret.... dont tell the savages. you really want them to live?

[–]Freshmulch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol hes a buddy of mine, we golf a lot so i find it comical to hear someone so blatantly blind

[–]cheezewiz05 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cringe

[–]DuaneDibbley 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh yeah, this is getting too close to 'faces of atheism' for me

[–]possiblebraindamage 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

The fact that there are so few people capable of critical thinking that they get their own special classification is even scarier.

[–]ZapPowerz 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

With the internet, we have access to, at our fingertips, almost all of humanity's collective knowledge. And yet, here we are. Dumb as fuck.

[–]you_are_all_slaves 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Facebooking...obsessed with ego, self image and drama, online shopping on Amazon...lonliness and self loathing fueled by media to be filled with their consumer products.... And YouTube for watching cat videos.

The American Fuckin' Dream right there, I'll tell ya what.

[–]ZapPowerz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I could literally hear America the Beautiful reading that. Brought a tear to my eye. So proud right now.

[–]Bmyrab 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's one of the CIA's biggest successes.

The CIA promoted the term "conspiracy theory," in the 1967 CIA Document 1035-960 entitled "Countering Criticism of the Warren Report," specifically as a propaganda device for their media “assets” to use against the many people who rightly recognized the Warren Report, claiming a lone nut murdered President Kennedy, as a huge steaming pile.

CIA media shills got the memo, and have parroted it ever since.

Use of the term "conspiracy theorist" is a proven conspiracy.

-Document photocopy:

http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=53510#relPageId=2

-Document text:

http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html

-Graph of “conspiracy theory” phrase usage over time:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conspiracy+theory&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=7&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cconspiracy%20theory%3B%2Cc0

[–]Sumner67 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every critical thinker is also a "Potential Domestic Terrorist" according to the administration and DHS.

[–]RealOrlandoHoax 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Truly a brave image file. Can we keep this back-slapping bullshit in r/conspiracymemes please? ....what do you mean "no?"

[–]mmp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It isn't a meme but I would allow it.

[–]urkeldurkel 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/im14andthisisdeep

[–]itspz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

For real, Chump and Alex jones made legit theories look like nut case ideas. Pickle gate? Pickles , we talking about Pickles? Pickles?

[–]j0phus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The worst part is that everyone thinks they're a genius for all these original thoughts, because they don't read. If they did, they'd realize just how popular they've been since their grandparents were in diapers. Which also points to how strong the forces are they are unhappy about- we've been dealing with this power struggle for over a century and it has only gotten worse.

If you have kids, teach them to read books. Have a family book club and read the books you've never read like Animal Farm or Fahrenheit 451. Teach them to think because their school is only teaching them to take tests and you'll learn yourself and build a stronger family.

[–]shitbric 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

conspiarcyrealist

[–]DawnPendraig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah... I've used that a lot. =)

[–]democracystrikesback 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

every "conspiracy theorist" always was a critical thinker

[–]gwsb 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

maybe in the beginning... now it's bandwagon this, bandwagon that... flat earth anyone?

edit: see? Good thing I didn't mention ISS hoax, Mandela Effect, Zetas... I would lose all my hard earn karma currency...

[–]RealUncensoredNews 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The CIA has run an OP to make conspiracy to be associated with crazy. Don't generalize because of their attempt to derail the truth.

[–]gwsb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not generalizing because of their attempt, I am generalizing because they succeeded, and did so because we used to be critical thinkers and now we're just followers, hoping to land on the next big thing.

We're easily played because we don't research things anymore, we read the *head headlines and assume we're automagically informed.

You can blame the CIA all you want, but it starts right here too... Why do we accept, as a community, headline post with no content? Original Poster should have the responsibility to flesh out their post or it should be turfed as spam or noise.

You can blame the CIA until you're blue in the face, but we cater to people that, instead of looking stuff up by themselves, cry that you didn't include a source, then cry when the source is not to their liking, then cry that this community is exactly what they were told it was.

I know it's sad, but having an open mind is on the opposite spectrum of where critical thought resides. Open minded is allowing everything in, critical thought is applying logic, evidence, and common sense. We have to decide if this community is an open minded one, or a critically thinking one.

[–]lifeinvelvet 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am certain the flat earth theory was created to make conspiracy theorists look stupid.

[–]gwsb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Along with many other things, and sometimes with no malicious intent.

[–]McLeech 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe the ISS is real, but we have Gabby Gifford's husband as one of the astronauts, plus all of NASA's past deceits.

strange webpage that shows gabby giffords bullet path.

http://reflectingonmonroe.blogspot.com/2013/01/gabrielle.html

[–]gwsb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The name is familiar, but I will have to look it up before commenting.

[–]democracystrikesback [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

flat earth? you fucking dolt. the dimmest and dumbest 1% might have fallen for it, at most. the rest of us were like "wtf is this shit?!?" the answer of course is most likely another cia plan to make people who ask questions and think for themselves look crazy.

[–]dadmda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mr. Robot's slogan fits perfectly, society has been hacked

[–]no1113 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, to be sure, every critical thinker most definitely IS a conspiracy theorist. This is because anyone who is a critical thinker, if they consider the problems of this civilization for any extended period of time, will very quickly realize that the conundrums and vicissitudes, the trials and tribulations faced by the people of this planet are to a great extent the result of the nefarious manipulation of a powerful group of forces hidden under the cover of secrecy and covertness.

This is the very definition of conspiracy, and this realization tends to happen only when one begins to really study and really question exactly what is going on around them - i.e. when they think critically about the state of the world they live in.

[–]RJPennyweather 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll pretty much just upvote whatever bullshit gets posted here right? I'm gonna post a picture of a chair that says "9/11 was an inside job" and see what happens.

[–]woweezow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Critical thinkers wouldn't upvote this shit.

[–]SpankMePanky 9ポイント10ポイント  (18子コメント)

R/im14andthisisdeep

[–]_venkman 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

As someone who is open to a lot of the stuff posted on this sub and who does their best to do actual research in life, the amount of arrogance that people have here is just terrible.

Seriously, the whole "we're the enlightened ones who are smarter than the rest of society"... THAT is what gives "conspiracy theorists" a bad name. You can't blame the "sheeple" for not listening to you when your attitude is "I'm smart, you're dumb, end of story". For crying out loud. Is it so hard to have a little humility?

[–]McLeech 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

There were bombs in the world trade centers - If you can't see it, you are dumb!

That is the big smoking gun that everyone should be able to see, and then draw connections from there.

[–]_venkman 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not a matter of being dumb, it's a matter of deciding what to believe for yourself based on the input you have. Doing your best to discern truth. If someone does that and comes to a different conclusion than I do, then fine, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are making rational belief choices, and just ended up with different conclusions. OP, on the other hand, is implicitly stating that if someone has decided upon different beliefs than him, then they OBVIOUSLY not not be a super-smart "critical thinker" like him. Ugh.

That's the thing about critical thinking... it goes both ways. You tell me Saudi Arabia was behind 9/11? Okay, let's look at the evidence for that. You tell me Bush did it? Okay, let's look at the evidence for that, too.

For instance. I was recently in an extremely uncomfortable conversation where one friend, who is very bright, was being called stupid (quite literally, directly called "stupid") for trusting doctors about dealing with his type 1 diabetes. Type 1! The genetically caused type! My friend took it in stride and just redirected the conversation because the other guy, a pretty extreme conspiracy theoristcritical thinker wasn't open to examining all evidence... if you didn't think exactly like him, you were stupid.

THAT is exactly why most of society doesn't listen to people who tend to believe in conspiracy theories. Because many of them (or at least the most vocal ones), like OP and the guy I mentioned before, are completely unbearable to talk to because of the arrogant spirit.

The problem I have with most of the conspiracy community is that most of them think critical thinking is as simple as always doubting the "official story". The sentiment above just reeks of it.

And you know what I hate the most about that? It's made it so that I will never, ever admit to believing any but the most mainstream of conspiracy theories to anyone in real life. Not because I'm afraid of the government tagging me, not because I'm afraid of being labelled "crazy", but because I know I will be instantly and unfairly percieved as close-minded and pompous thanks to the anti-discussion spirit that is so pervasive among this community (not specifically this subreddit, the larger group).

I genuinely hope you don't take this personally. I just needed to get it off my chest.

[–]DawnPendraig 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just refuse to be labeled at all. Labeling is putting us in a box to limit us

[–]McLeech 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's a good example. Last night on this forum a theory about the Abraham Lincoln assassination being fake generated some discussion. I trust Miles Mathis, the originator of the theory (he also believes the OJ Simpson trial was fake.) Those theories are "out there." 9/11 as I said before is the smoking gun. Video evidence clearly shows that the buildings were wired for demolition. That is why I must draw a line in the sand.

[–]FORKinmyDICK 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly my thought. Those masks/memes are so fucking cringey

[–]unfavorablespodermen -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Atleast you don't shitpost that bad compared to the others on this sub

[–]Lifting1488 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is the term conspiracy theorist bad? Oh ya the Cia.

It's not a bad term.

And Anonymoose is retarded.

[–]Ferfrendongles 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm gonna be that guy and say that if whomever it was that made this meme speaks how they write, then it's probably not the criticism that people find off-putting.

[–]slinkyfish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate to do this, but... *whoever

[–]HiFriend03 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

CT = CT

(Critical Thinker = Conspiracy Theorist)

This needs to catch fire if CTs are gonna be taken seriously.

[–]hack_jalsey 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't understand how something can be labeled as a "conspiracy" when there is irrefutable proof saying otherwise.

[–]McLeech 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Fed is a private bank - this one is hard to wrap your head around.

[–]swansong19 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It aint "federal" and it has no "reserves"…lol

[–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

I can't upvote shit with gay-ass Vendetta masks.

[–]krom_bom -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I can't upvote people who use the expression "gay-ass" like that. But I wish I could, because I fucking hate these facebook-tier 3edgy5me memes.

[–]glooka -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's a better adjective than "gay-ass masks" for these V for Vendetta memes? Honestly. I can't think of one

[–]krom_bom -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I do not consider myself to be very involved in the social justice movement, but... I am uncomfortable using homosexual slurs to call things "stupid." It's either intellectually lazy, or bigoted. I do not presume to label you a bigot based on a single phrase, because I'm not a crazy radical... but that being said, I do not respect people who use terms like that because it just isn't necessary and does nothing to further your point.

Just say "stupid" next time, or if you are really passionate, you can say something like "fucking anarchist wanna-be posers" or something.

[–]glooka 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think "gay-ass" works just fine, I'll probably just keep saying that

Its OK I'm gay and black

[–]krom_bom -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol ok dude, i know a lot of LGBTQ people who throw all kinds of slurs around, so I get it.

As a straight man, though, I personally just feel really uncomfortable using that kind of language. I hope you understand my perspective, as well.

[–]glooka 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You probably shouldn't use it if you're uncomfortable with it, good call.

People sound funny when they try to use a bad word too tentatively

[–]Horus_Krishna_4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

stop being such a fag

that means loud motorcycle rider now btw

[–]Your-Fellow-Human 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technically they are correct because every person who thinks knows that everything is a conspiracy.

[–]polkadotgirl 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

What if we owned the world conspiracy theorist? We could change the connotation and make it something perceived as positive.

[–]swansong19 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Unfortunately the CIA "owns" the term. They coined it in the fall out of the Kennedy assassination as a way of discrediting anyone with reasonable questions.

[–]polkadotgirl 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes I know. I guess I was just thinking we could collectively do something...not sure what.

[–]swansong19 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well I suppose we could coin a new term and all agree to use it.

We tried "Truther"…but in this fd up world concerning yourself with the "truth" is considered insane.

I like Event Analyst but I don't think it'll catch on…lol

[–]DawnPendraig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think any labeling is a mistake

[–]RealUncensoredNews 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Conspiracy Theorist is not a bad thing. They are real things that happen all the time. Thinking that a Critical Thinker thinks conspiracy theory is wrong is even more of a laugh.

[–]Andyvalver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a good article. 😎

http://www.naturalnews.com/047168_conspiracy_theorists_sanity_propaganda.html

[–]unruly_mattress 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True critical thinking is believing anything that isn't mainstream and you kinda want to believe.

I myself can recognize a critical thinking subreddit if they upvote two fabricated quotes to the top two days after they upvote a fabricated screenshot to the top.

[–]radleft 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm part of the conspiracy.

[–]mymorningjacket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Says the controlled opposition "group" of "random people" who think it's cool to keep showing people in Fawkes' masks thinking we are dumb enough to not know profits from every sale of one of those dumbass, wanna be symbolic masks goes to Time Warner.

[–]Loguer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

well meme'd, sir

[–]meantartarsauce 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember; INGSOC double plus good

[–]DawnPendraig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't dare question the drugged masses will swarm and attack you. Just the other day I point out the corruption of the FDA and now I am both an idiot and tin foil hat wearer (our dunce cap).

The magic they work making conspiracy synonymous with crazy

[–]beezlepup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Edit:badly

[–]911bodysnatchers322 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we stop using the anonymous trope? He was a Jesuit and wanted to blow up folks and kidnap a princess. He was literally someone super Mario would fight in a castle. Hashtag criticalfawkes

[–]zenicaone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Now?

This is nothing new - it has been like this since forever - scientists have been burned as heretics when church had power, everyone who would challenge those in power (be it king, pope, emperor, sultan or whatever the power called itself) would be chased down and persecuted, or even killed in most horrible ways.

Never be discouraged to question, of course Power will always try to protect its position, that is not unexpected, but that does not mean that this is something new.

[–]andronicii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This American presidential election has been a neoliberal-cum-neoconservative charade; democracy in America at the presidential level has long been dead and buried; the unison 'security' duopoly operating in America since circa 9/11 proves this through its actions, namely the continuation of endless war and subwar level violence and instability in the Greater Middle East region, which, it is known sotto voce by the Western press, will be continued at least as and most likely even more assiduously by Clinton II. That the 'vaunted' Guardian newspaper, for example, supported this specious warmonger for president over Bernie Sanders is a black mark against this neoliberal identity politicking propaganda portal that will expose it for the ages as the clinical, if not cynical, mechanism of neoliberal neocolonialist information manipulation that it is. The Guardian of proper progressive thought is the soft edge of the hard wedge of neoliberal false consciousness and intra-working class confusion and division within targeted countries and across the world.

[–]katjeborgesius666 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

*Badly

Sorry

[–]seedlesssoul 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had a guy give me shit because I told him I look at multiple different sources and make my opinion based off the different sources and not just watching cnn and MSNBC. He said the other sources were creditable. I asked him why, because the establishment and msm said differently. People are blind to open thought now.

[–]swansong19 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol…I'm getting that right now. They want reputable sources, which, for them, are mainstream media outlets…which don't, won't, haven't covered the nuts and bolts of the Sandy Hook police report.

They won't accept a youtube vid or independent blog.

Soooo…if you won't accept a non MSM outlet…and MSM isn't covering the issue…then…..I guess it doesn't exist

[–]whysoserious385 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

WE HAVE THE BEST EUPHORIA DON'T WE FOLKS

EDIT: Shit I actually did think I was on /r/The_Donald.

[–]swansong19 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In r/politics I am being roasted and piled on for bringing up some uncomfortable truths about Sandy Hook.

Apparently I'm "crazy" and a "narcissist" because I've taken the time to read through the State Police Report on SH and have taken the time to educate myself.

That's our world folks.

[–]kevin823 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this /r/iamverysmart or /r/terriblefacebookmemes?

[–]Atalanta8 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub should be renamed to r/truth

[–]Namesoog -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But of course. It's how the Allopathic doctors/Rockefeller eliminated all other forms of health doctors. They called them "alternative" or quacks. Make them seem to be not main stream and thus bad. We all know this system to be completely corrupt. Even Rockefeller had a natural path as his doctor. It's a very good history lesson for those who like to see a true conspiracy. Main stream is all about money. Just follow the money to learn the truth.

[–]every1wins -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually they seem to put up with my bullshit quite amicably, oh... so far.

[–]HempCO719 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe we should actually conspire then