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Women ages really really fast. (self.MGTOW)

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This post goes into the "how little women are offering" bin.

If you're at all familiar with more traditional or past (like ~100 - ~200 years ago) culture, you'd know that women used to get married way earlier.

Because most traditional culture had some kind of arranged marriage, it was common for women to get married at around 16 of age. That's also about the age that most agree that women peak in physical beauty, at least in some regards. This view actually still exists in current culture, Britney Spears released Baby One More Time when she was 18, and so much porn are produced in the teen genre for the target audience of men between 12 y.o to 100 y.o.

The picture is different if all you watch are mainstream tv and movies though. You will be bombarded with the message that 30 sth women are BEAUTIFUL, and they deserve the man of their dreams, and they have plenty of time to pick and choose. I believe this is driven by economic incentives. Need to keep the age group happy? check! Need to sell more make-up and handbags? check!

You have to unplug from mainstream media to see the truth. It's not far though. One thing you can do is compare pictures of celebrity from the time they're 18 to when they're 30 and see for yourself. If you have facebook (I don't), you can also take a look at how your high school classmates look now. I can hardly recognize women from high school b/c they've aged so much.

I'm not saying that all women needs to get married at 18 or that all men should find teenagers to marry. However, it's also ridiculous to pretend that women does not get significantly less attractive when they're approaching 30. I think this is just something to keep in mind when considering what women are offering when it comes to things like long term commitment and marriage. You must not only consider what you see at the moment, but also what it will become over the next decades.

There's also the interesting psychology issue that women have always been young ( and enjoyed all the privileges of being a young girl ) until they aren't young anymore. I've seen this discussed before, so I won't say anything, but it's also good to keep in mind.

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[–]Cetameta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

IDK, from what I've seen, it's all genetics and exercise.

Generally though, as long as they take care of themselves physically, most women I've observed don't really lose their looks until about 40. After that the older age really shows.

It makes sense in biological terms. After age 35 women become progressively less capable of bearing healthy children. And after 40 the chances of terrible complications and miscarriage are so high it's unlikely they'll have kids naturally.

However, if they don't take care of themselves, women can look like disgusting land whale meth addicts in their teens and 20s.

Of course, facepaint helps them all out regardless of age and probably makes a big difference for many women in their 30s. Otherwise, those girls hitting the gym every day know what's up and are doing everything possible to extend those baby-making healthy looks into older age ranges.

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In my opinion, the most physically attractive women (who take care of themselves) are in their mid to late 20s.

[–]yourmommysnightmare 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

mainstream tv and movies though. You will be bombarded with the message that 30 sth women are BEAUTIFUL,

Men are NOT the target for this messaging, women are - if the advertiser or TV show producers don't stroke their egos they go elsewhere.

I noticed this long ago - people running seminars for mostly female audiences went completely out of their way to NEVER EVER EVER criticize women.

I would see recordings of seminars presenting the identical material, one at a mostly female conference/convention, another at a mostly male one and the male one would have honest feedback.

"You did complete shit on the last exercise, here's what you can do better ..."

nothing like that EVER EVER happened at the mostly-female ones.

Come to find out much later, after I got into videotaping seminars & conferences for a while, talking with folks who develop seminars, women will never come back to a seminar from the same company (even if it's a different presenter) and will actively try to shut you out of the convention/conference circuit if you give them honest feedback.

Helping women with the same honest Criticism you give men (even if you water down the language completely and try to present it in a happy, upbeat way) is career suicide for the presenter and bad for their employer.

[–]reymont12 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice reminder. Well not so nice, but good to keep in mind. My old college girlfriend took a noticeable dive from her slender and tight 21 to her frumpy and unconfident 25.