Submitted by Carey Wedler via TheAntiMedia.org,
A 76-year-old military veteran killed himself outside a Long Island Veteran Affairs facility Sunday after being denied treatment. He was reportedly seeking help for mental health issues at the Northport Veterans Affairs Medical Center but was turned away, an unfortunately common experience plaguing veterans seeking healthcare in recent years.
According to the New York Times, two people connected to the hospital spoke about the incident on the condition of anonymity. They explained “he had been frustrated that he was unable to see an emergency-room physician for reasons related to his mental health,” the Times reported.
“He went to the E.R. and was denied service,” one anonymous source said. “And then he went to his car and shot himself.”
Peter A. Kaisen of Islip, New York, committed suicide in the parking lot of the Northport facility, where he had been a patient. He was in the parking lot outside Building 92, the facility’s nursing home, when he shot himself.
One of the Times’ anonymous sources questioned why Kaisen had not been referred to Building 64, the mental health center at Northport.
“The staff member said that while there was normally no psychologist at the ready in the E.R., one was always on call, and that the mental health building was open ‘24/7,’” the Times reported.
“Someone dropped the ball. They should not have turned him away,” the source said.
Christopher Goodman, a spokesman for the hospital, said there “was no indication that he presented to the E.R. prior to the incident,” and the Times was unable to determine whether there was an official record of his visit to the VA on Sunday.
The Northport center has faced heightened scrutiny since the Times reported on mismanagement at the facility in 2014, but the problems at Northport are problems of the entire system.
Just last month, an Iowa military veteran suffering from PTSD and substance abuse killed himself after being denied treatment by the VA. He reportedly made an appointment seeking treatment but eventually posted on social media that he was turned away “even though he requested it and explained to a doctor that he felt his safety and health were in jeopardy,”KWQC, a local news outlet reported.
One veteran who drove to a Seattle VA last year with a broken foot was denied assistance walking from his car to the hospital entrance, a distance of a few feet. He was told to call 911, instead. One gun-wielding veteran with PTSD was shot and killed by police in Maricopa County, Arizona, last year after he was turned away from the VA hospital when he sought treatment for a mental health emergency. He had routinely called suicide hotlines for help but never received the full attention he needed.
Veteran suicides in the United States are a chronic problem. Though some argue the relatively recent figure from the VA that 22 veterans kill themselves per day is inflated, veterans still face a suicide risk higher than the rest of the American population. As USA Today has noted:
“In 2014, veterans accounted for 18% of all suicides in the United States, but made up only 8.5% of the population. In 2010, veterans accounted for 22% of U.S. suicides and 9.7% of the population.”
Further, a more recent analysis by the VA found that in 2014, 20 veterans killed themselves per day. Politifact, an independent fact-checker, has confirmed this figure. While rates of veteran suicides appear to be declining, the figures are still troubling.
Even absent mental health issues like depression and PTSD, veterans are dying waiting for regular health care. A VA whistleblower revealed last year that 238,000 out of 847,000 veterans died after submitting requests for treatment they never received. An audit in 2014 found 57,000 veterans were waiting more than 90 days for an appointment with the VA.
The United States government, politicians, and the media often express compassion and gratitude for veterans. To their credit, some lawmakers recently attempted to allow veterans to use cannabis as an alternative treatment in an amendment to a budget bill — a move Congress ultimately blocked.
But in spite of failed and often unwieldy efforts to reform veterans’ health care, the VA’s systemic failures continue to leave veterans feeling ignored and abandoned by the very institutions that still claim to value them.
The world is getting more and more fucked up! http://www.truthjustice.net/
Oh yes, Amurica, The Shining Beacon of Hope on the Hill.
All-Seeing Eye of Horus
Bush's fault...
/s
I just realized something......YES WE CAN!!!
Since I know a few drug too many drug 'abusers', who were abusers before they went into the military, and were abusers when they got out, who still go to the VA for 'help'....this story sounds very familiar. Is this an infomercial for the mental health industry?
Sooooo.....it's their own damn fault.
Got it.
What about the possibility of his nagging conscience?
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Found a typo:
Corrected: "The United States government, politicians, and the media often express empty platitudes to veterans."
These institutions do, in fact, value veterans. They measure this value by the expected lifetime expenses of providing medical care and retirement benefits. This is why veteran suicide will elicit no more than condescending expressions of concern from Vichy DC.
The fact that the VA must be used for Vets is disgusting. Abolish it and allow the vets to seek help from whomever they wish. They should receive BlueCross/BlueShield coverage. Since the Military cannot account for 6.4 Trillion dollars I am sure they can absorb the hit.
For the better part of a year the VA has actually had in place a means for qualified vets to receive medical treatment outside the VA system in certain situations (e.g., if travel distance to a VA facility or wait time for an appointment is excessive) . I have taken advantage of this program myself; however, the program is so cumbersome that it is not for the faint of heart.
>The Shining Beacon of Hope on the Hill.
The only hope that remains, run for the hills
Completely agree, this is beyond a travesty of any kind of justice. And the trillions missing went for what ? Our government is a travesty and a serious bad joke on the people. Fuck these control freak cocksuckers with a dose of their own medicine !
the solution is as simple as it is obvious:
eliminate the parking lot.
Fuck off with the spam already.
How many different screen names are you going to use anyway??
If you are reading this and thinking about ending your life, please don't. But if you really must, please consider taking Soros with you.
lol agreed. And I'll point out one fact: this guy lived longer than my newborn son's life expectancy.... just sayin....
...ask not for whom the bell tolls...
well im not into that metaphysical bullshit. more of a cavalier myself. oh and hemingway was an overcompensating fa ggot. so either way.....
I don't care what you think of Hemingway, but the line comes from John Donne:
any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee.
Doctors Without Borders...can you place U.S. on your list?
That would give the DoD the green light to bomb VA hospitals.
Obama doesn't care. Why should he? He wasn't born here. Hillary doesn't care. Why should she? Everything you see and have today is the product of a White Patriarchy. Once that is destroyed, we can enter the new horizon of socialist paradise.
It's worse than that... most, if not all, politicians don't care! And why should they... we are all just canon fodder
Lots of hoopla & patriotism to get you to enlist, and then NOTHING if/when you get back
That should tell you and everyone all you need to know as to how important your life is to the "machinery"
Want more proof?
How about the treatment of First Nations peoples?
How about GMO labelling?
You & I mean NOTHING to TPTB (except as cogs and transfer of wealth)
Or any of the scumbag billionaires or politicians who service them.
https://thehornnews.com/obamas-va-gave-out-millions-in-bonuses/
Obama bonused these VA administrators instead of firing them even though they reportedly lied numerous times on numerous reports.
Pathetic!
The VA is Government run healthcare. In the history of the world no nation has ever increased prosperity, quality of life and peace without respecting individual liberty. It's time for another revolution. Prayers for family, friends and the continuously dwindling free people.
there are multipe generations of "veterans". The best generation is dying off now. They built America and made it almost everything that it is today. i attend their funerals and I'm saddened by our countries loss of that generation.
there's a middle generation.
...and there's the young generation. Perhaps most of you are out of touch. I am not. the "recruitment" officers today that work the retail centers are specialists in helping young boys pass a drug test. if you don't know those guys, you should.
You all jump on bashing the 'melinials' on ZH...well guess what, when those same nintendo junkie drug addicts sign up for the Army it doesn't turn them into the virtuous "Veterans" that we all know and respect. And I have another piece of reality for you. These young recruits don't give a shit about "serving their country". Although, some of them are transformed during the process and do grow into respectable guys. But most of them HATE the military for all the reasons you already know. At the top of the list is discipline. not being able to stay up till 4:30AM every day playing pokejoe and being forced to do something that doesn't sound fun.
...and if you think I'm wrong, I recommend that you volunteer to help these young guys study for the ASVAB as I have, and let's see what your opinion is after a year of that.
I have a personal friend whos son could not get in the Marines because he took to much vitamin B complex as part of his workout and health program. Failed the drug test and even his congressman could not get him in. They dp not spend the extra money to do the definitive testing. Simple piss test only.
Now problems passing the ASAVB tells us we need to reinstate the draft. That should give us a huge base of senator and congressmen family members, guys and gals, to select from including Prez Obamas kids. Our problems with worldly interventions should end right after that.
Take a closer look at the 13th Amendment. There is an exemption allowing for involuntary servitude for prison inmates, but nothing allowing involuntary servitude as cannon fodder. The draft is unconstitutional. If the draft is ever reinstated, rest assured that there will be special exemptions made for elite kids, just as there were for WWII, and Vietnam. In the latter "police action" most of us just traded our blue collars for OD ones. How anyone here on this site can promote slavery, is beyond me.
LOL, and you believed it was vitamin B complex? You do realize they take positive samples and do additional tests with them. Your friends son most likely popped positive on his entry drug test, after partying, and is simply not admitting to it. I had a friend who popped positive on his drug test, and told his family how the military screwed up. BTW people would take vitamin B complex prior to the piss test in order to pass it. IE riboflavin taint the sample as it confuses the test. The testers would would be forced to void it, or use a backup sample.
"While riboflavin (B2) CAN be made from cannabis seed oil there are many other sources for this B-complex vitamin; corn oil, soybean oil, sunflower oil, linseed oil, etc.. Most commercial riboflavin is synthetically produced from the fermentation of plant or lactose carbohydrates. However, since SOME riboflavin is made from cannabis seed oil, this is likely why large doses of B2 have shown up on urine drug tests. We have been unable to find a single case where the GC/MS test failed to tell the difference between vitamin B2 and THC metabolites."
That is all true, but the Marines have a zero tolerance towards drug use. As far as hating the military it not disapline, it the realization that you are just a clog in the machine, which can and does chew you up. Read Catch 22, or watch When Trumpets Fade (same people that brought you HBO's Band of Brothers).
A glimpse of Gummint run healthcare.
No, he is saying it was not service related, and it was not, the veteran in this instance was a disabled police officer
probably as many alcoholics and drug addicts enter the military as exist in the normal civilian population. but of course, it's easier just to make generalizations based on your limited personal experience, Anti
"Mental Health" services are too expensive....much cheaper to cast these people into the street, where they commit crimes, are then arrested, processed through the "criminal justice system" and then incarcerated for paltry sum of $60,000 per year (in NY State)...
When you add up all the costs, in NY State, you're looking at $80,000 for that first year in prison...yeah, we've got the money for that...but $10,000 for mental health treatment...nope, too expensive.
But think of all the money we save when people off themselves!
Very true. The VA/fedgov has also figured out that these people commiting suicide is much much cheaper than paying their pensions and medical care. Sure, they get a little bad press about it, but it never lasts long. The american sheeple is an easily distracted species. There might be a monent or two of outrage, but it will quickly be forgotten. Plus, the vast majority of the "support our troops" crowd genuinly believes that all that needs to be done to fix this is to elect moar repulbicans.
geez, would this be an issue if merica wasn't in continual war? where is sanity and accountability.
mcstain? plez explain the madness you back...
da money, yup. fucking looser...
Also, the more people off themselves in the VA Parking lot, the more REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS will demand, and provide, increases in VA funding.
So, in effect, patients killing themselves in the VA Parking Lot is a sure-fire way to boost salaries and bonuses at the VA....and we are "shocked and outraged" that this problem continues to be "unfixable" despite record amounts of money being pumped into the VA.
The VA scandals are quickly swept under the rug by CNN, npr, etc if even mentioned at all. Zero accountability. If they'd only exterminate the roaches and mice running around the VA Hopsitals bathrooms and beds i'm sure the Vets would appreciate it even though Obama forbid Christmas tree in VA Hopsitals.
There will be a welcomed sigh of relief at all the VFW's when we have an American in the wh.
One, i guarantee you never served in the military in any capacity and 2 you have never done a drug or known anyone seriously addicted. Its a shame out military has to sacrifice their lives and mental well beings for fuckheads like yourself and our government
You are an antifascist? I am an anti-communist. Hi.
Bankers just do not give a shit about their former mercenaries. For this matter, they do not give a shit about anybody except themselves.
well Cac - looks like you upset a banker today...either that or there's someone that downvotes the truth for the hell of it.
Thank you President Obama
"SUPPORT THE TROOPS " " SUPPORT THE TROOPS " USA, USA, USA, alot of silly noise, until it comes down to paying for these poor guys injuries, sustained while fighting for corporate profits!
Bernie Sanders fault.
No sarc
You spelled 'Sauron' funny.