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Musings - Bayern Munich Team (self.reddevils)

redwolfCR7 が 投稿

This might be irrelevant to this reddit... but watching the Bundesliga opener - Bayern vs Bremen... They have had more than 5 shots in the first 10 min. Alonso scoring a sweet volley at 8th minute... and 2 goals in 15 first minutes of the season... Whoa.. They seem like such a well oiled machine... 10 out of those starting 11 are world class... except javi martinez... who in all fairness could still be a world class player.. (His knee injury might have taken a chip or two)... We are still a couple of signings away from being counted as being scary in the same way... Hope Mou builds our team by next season and scare the shit out of the UCL teams...

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[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know if I would put today's Ribery as World Class. I also don't think Thiago is World Class.

Overall though their squad is definitely strong. I just think the term World Class is used far too loosely.

[–]redwolfCR7[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree with u on Ribery... Not so much on thiago... If thiago was English... He'd be so hyped...

[–]MrD3athGiggsy -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thiago is absolutely world class. He plays with such nonchalance, it's incredible to watch.

[–]BloodyMess111 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right... this is completely irrelevant.

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thiago and Alonso are world class?

[–]redwolfCR7[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I definitely think so...

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude no way.

World class is like the best of the best in their respective position, they aren't even close to top 5 in either.

[–]CalimariaeSolskjaer 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think we're a couple of signings away from being a juggernaut again.

Give the new signings time to gel and learn the Mourinho way and we'll be there soon enough.

[–]redwolfCR7[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

agreed... might take more than just a couple of signings..

[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure. Bayern's core has been together for almost a decade and multiple managers. Ours is young and still gelling. We have a ton of talent that could grow to that level if properly instructed.

Bayern wasn't built only from galactico signings, they made smart moves and have a great system to plug players into.

[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're a well oiled machine, but we're still pretty young by comparison, and most of our players have less than 3 years with the first team so I think we need a couple more campaigns to really gel like that.

Pogba, Shaw, DDG, and Martial are or have shown they can grow to be at that level. Memphis, Bailly, and Rashford might get there.

On their day when deployed properly, Smalling, Carrick, Fellaini, Mkhi, and even Tony V can really take over a match.

Zlatan is Zlatan.

[–]Axie22Shaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's one thing to compare the squads of the two teams, but if anyone is watching this match you've got to take into account that Werder Bremen look completely disinterested and are allowing the Bayern players a ridiculous amount of time and space on the ball. While I agree that they've had a roaring start to the match, as you've noted, it's important to remember that Werder Bremen are doing Bayern a ton of favors at the moment.

The second goal is evidence alone that Werder Bremen have already given up. Their back line is completely out of sync and the defenders were jogging back after Lewo ran through.

[–]StathamIsYourSaviorPaul Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TBF though Werder Bremen seem to have given up even before the ball was kicked. Zero intent and pressing, they might as well be 11 traffic cones in a training session

[–]Moutaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Javi Martinez is behind Busquets as the second best defensive midfielder in the world imo, he's injury prone but when fit he's untouchable

I agree, Bayern are my favourites to win the UCL this year

[–]redwolfCR7[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Best defensive midfielder in the world behind Busquets might be bit of a stretch... but he is definitely an awesome player who still needs to perform consistently to be counted among the top 3 or 5 best defensive mid fielders ... Just my 2 cents

[–]Moutaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Who would you rate higher? I'm curious

[–]redwolfCR7[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Right now i'd say in no particular order: Alonso, Kante, Matic, Fernandinho, Dier, Wanyama, De Rossi, Mascherano, Casemiro... My list might be skewed based on the performances of last season or because i follow EPL more than the other leagues...

[–]Moutaryan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but Jesus Christ some of those players couldn't even shine Javi's shoes lol

And imo he's better than every one of those players, and I've watched a lot of Bayern games where he's played

[–]redwolfCR7[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmmm.. As you said.. everyone's entitled to their opinion ;)

[–]MrD3athGiggsy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Matic, Fernandinho, Dier, Wanyama

No fucking way

[–]IngebrigtsenScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those are purely defensive players for the most part. Kante, Dier, Wanyama and Casemiro (to an extent) doesn't bring anything in an attacking sense, and while that's OK for most teams, those players probably won't get a sniff in a team like Bayern who require their defensive midfielder to contribute forwards aswell