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Devil's Advocate Re: MGTOW (self.MGTOW)

Tannhausergate2017 が 投稿

I am a fan of a lot of what I've been reading on MGTOW. There is a lot of wisdom and empathy to be found here. And, most importantly, truth, which is a rare commodity in PC-world today...

...but because I try to evaluate all sides to an issue, I have a question for the folks here. From a nature perspective, or evolutionary perspective, or intelligent designer perspective - whatever - can't one argue that the physical complementarity of men with women, which brings forth kids, argues that men and women should be together? I'm not making a "Divine Daddy told you so, so do it" argument. I'm saying that the Nature of our bodies - the penis in vagina - points to an inherent complementarity. It's not the "fish riding a bicycle" that that hag Steinem talked about.

And, if so, shouldn't the current state of societal affairs make us sad or disappointed or conflicted? Personall though, I'm relieved I've dodged some bullets. My temperament, likes and family background probably make me not having kids and getting married a good call for me. For me individually.

I'm throwing this out for general discussion as I really think hard about MGTOW. Most of the banter I've seen here is respectful and fair-minded so I'm hoping to get some insight.

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[–]sadbasturd99 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont subscribe to the complete women hatred that is exhibited often here. Many of the men here have very obviously never been loved or had a decent woman in their lives. Mostly because of their own difficulties in relating to people and themselves.

There are a lot of women out there that understand relationships are give and take and can give you 108% of what you can give her, be it financial or sexual. At first glance in the west when you meet women you would think they could give 0% of themselves sure, that is a very understandable perception.

And it is possible to create with a woman a ver deep relationship. One that goes beyond she gave me vagina so I give her money. But there will always be some amount of selfishness involved sure. But who cares ? There are nights I dont want to fuck a girl, I want her to suck my cock and swallow every drop so I dont have to clean anything up, while I am eating some ice cream and watching Naked Dating on VH1. Is that selfish ? Sure, and who cares ? Then I pee on her afterward and she loves it. Is that a little bit sick ? Sure, but who cares, its fun between adults.

My point is women and men can be very complimentary towards each other. Just on a natural level. I think the responses you are going to get are going to talk about the negative aspects though, when you try to enter relationships into a legal system, things get very strange and bizarre and ugly. I wonder how much of the issues between men and women are caused simply by profiteering lawyers ?

[–]360GnomeChild 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

At the moment men and women do not compliment eachother very well in the West because of strong incentives that put the genders at odds with eachother. We probably should be disappointed, but I think alot of us on both sides just feel apathy.