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PES or FIFA 2017? (self.reddevils)

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As casual gamers, my friends and I have always blindly picked up the latest version of FIFA every year. I'm just curious to know what still draws so many people to PES and whether it's worthwhile to make the switch?

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[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Comparing the 2016 games, in terms of raw gameplay, PES is miles better than FIFA. I would say pretty much everything else is better in FIFA though, from the online play to graphics.

[–]TelcarSolskjær 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

is that so? my last PES game was 09 and I enjoyed fifa 10 a lot more. Before that Fifa wasn't up to scratch though.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Felt that way to me. Picked up PES 16 after years of FIFA, and the biggest difference for me was instantly how much more realistic the gameplay felt. Noticed that difference again when I picked up FIFA 16.

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Big call. Was exactly the same for me. Last PES I played was 9 and used to play it all the time. Will have to give the demo a shot.

[–]Flick_My_Bean_Geoff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My thoughts sway hugely year on year. I thought fifa 16 at the beginning was as perfect as you could get. Stamina went down fairly quick, the passing (and crossing) physics seemed more real, pace was better managed.

Then sometimes I play PES and I think it's amazing and then other times I feel this isn't like a real game of football at all.

I will buy fifa, because of the gameplay but also because they've got the skysports commentary/licenses etc. It just feels better.

[–]MenofStraw 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

The new PES is pretty decent, the demo is out for PES now, you can download it and try it for yourself

[–]IcegazeGGMU 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

For real??? Wasn't aware it was out already.

[–]MenofStraw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah they released it yesterday (I think) but either way it is up in the PSN store

[–]jp-dizzleDeutscher Fußballmeister 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've switched allegiances more times than most people who blindly play FIFA and slate PES having played a demo one time.

They're both great, and they both have flaws. PES' gameplay is a lot more realistic, a lot less predictable and the animations are a lot more realistic than FIFA's which are often a bit cartoon-y.

PES obviously falls down in the licensing department and also has a poor choice of stadia and a reduced choice of leagues. In 2017, people don't want to be playing with Man Red and Merseyside Blue. Fortunately I know a guy who does amazing option files for PES (only on PS4 however) which corrects all team names, kits etc. so it isn't an issue. If you want to check it out - follow THIS LINK. - he adds in leagues such as the Bundesliga etc.

I feel as though the general gameplay graphics of FIFA are better than PES'. However during 'cutscenes' (if you can call them that) PES' graphics are insane.

Player detail for FIFA is generally very good. Sometimes in PES there is absolutely no resemblance, though the 3D scans of players are incredibly life-like.

Online on FIFA at this moment in time is MILES ahead of PES. There's no comparison. So if online gaming is your jam, go for FIFA everytime.

After all this spiel, my answer is both. I get sick of FIFA's bullshit so it's nice to have a change to go to. I would avoid PES on anything other than PS4, however.

[–]mickIII 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was a long term PES head, from the isspro days on the PlayStation.

It was always miles ahead of FIFA.

Then around 2008 things began to change. Pes seemed to stagnate, with not much changing from one year to the next. At the sane time FIFA started to get their shit together.

I bought both in 2010, and played much more FIFA. I was with FIFA until last year, when really positive PES 2016 reviews tempted me back.

And I must say, I'm so happy I switched back. PES has lots if faults, but, for me, it's just so much more FUN to play than FIFA.

FIFA still boss though, and it's totally debatable which us 'best' at the moment, and FIFA 2017 promises a brand new engine, which will be worth checking out.

Lucky to have 2 amazing footie games to choose from!

[–]FraajWaste of money 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

FIFA 17 is gonna be insane with the new engine, if you just blindly pick it up every year this is not the one to change that.

[–]MaxxBaerJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you played the beta?

[–]Pigeon_AssholeGerrard = 0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I only play pro clubs but really want to try PES this year. Will get both probably.

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got PES last year and it was good but didn't hook me like fifa did I'll be switching back I miss the fun of pro clubs

[–]IcegazeGGMU 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been a FIFA man since the 2009 games. Before that, it was all PES. I'm still sticking with FIFA from what I've seen and heard of the latest versions and also, comparing my experiences with the 15-16 games that I bought for both FIFA and PES.

I just cannot understand why people say PES is more "realistic". I really can't. Not to start a war here, just my plain, humble opinion. PES feels a lot stiffer, more robotic (less fluid) in many aspects of the gameplay. FIFA is far from perfect and the "scripted" passes (damn through balls in 15-16) are horrid. But the OVERALL feel of the simulation to me is superior in FIFA.

And to top things this year, Man Utd and EA have a partnership. Happy days for me.

PS: I'm a FIFA fan who doesn't care about FUT. Never played it and don't think I will start anytime soon. I play for Seasons (online matches) and sometimes Tournaments (hopefully they tweak the AI for Legendary level).

[–]Dublinguist 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fifa. Sorry but PES, despite having more realistic game play, is just too often a slap dash effort that the creators don't give a fuck about. I wouldn't be surprised if we still fucking had Falcao in the new game.

[–]tocitusMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, there are a lot of things Konami could do better (e.g. the joke that was squad update last year and the 1980s menus) but EA are the worst for when it comes to that kind of thing.

EA have ignored offline play for ages now and concentrated on UT and now it's got to the point where the AI is a joke (have you ever seen a FIFA computer controlled play make a smart off the ball run? Half the time they get in your way when you're dribbling or shooting. Also if their kits were the same, you couldn't tell the difference between playing Port Vale and Barcelona. Every team plays the exact same way) and all they do every year is release a new shiny thing (e.g. last year they brought in Training which was essentially pointless).

PES tries out new things every year and it feels like playing football, rather than pressing a series of buttons to achieve the right effect.

I'd be really interested in playing the Demo this year and seeing if they've at all updated the gameplay because I can't take another season of John Terry out-sprinting Martial.

[–]darthkimon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I chose PES over FIFA this year. The number of teams that you can choose when playing online is limited, (no dortmund unless you create it by yourself) and the number of bayern/real spammers is insane.

[–]tocitusMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote this yesterday comparing PES and FIFA's career modes. Some of it won't be relevant but a lot of it was about gameplay:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FifaCareers/comments/4zcd4c/what_do_you_rate_this_years_manager_career_mode/d6upxs2

So there may be some stuff in there but the best thing you could do is download PES 17's demo and give it a go.

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People are drawn to it for the more realistic game play. But honestly I like FIFA a lot more, it's way more fun to play and the graphics and menus are a lot better.

Actually, now that I think of it everything except for the game play is a lot better. Even then sometimes PES is a snooze fest. FIFA is a lot more exciting and fun. PES is more realistic.

[–]FPS_Dann 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have played the beta for Fifa 17, it's a big change this year and I'm loving it! Also man Utd are now partners with ea sports so we could support them that way!