Mgtow was predicted in 2009

[Bayerische MotorenParticipant 4914]

Article published Jan 1st 2010.

Note: The author of this article is not a Mgtow.

Abstract : The Western World has quietly become a civilization that has funny tainted the interaction between men and women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to inflict great harm onto their own families, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.

full article
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

*Love is grand. Divorce is a hundred grand *I eat shaming tactics like tic tacs *When I see MGTOW... I see the true greatness of men

[Bayerische MotorenParticipant 4914]

Who Should Care?

Anyone with a son, brother, nephew, or mentee entering marriage, particularly without the partial protection of a pre-nuptial agreement. As described earlier, he can be ruined, separated from his children, and jailed in a manner few would suspect could happen in any advanced democracy. The suicide rate of divorced men is shockingly high.

Anyone concerned about rising crime. 72% of African American children are born to single mothers, and the number among white children is approaching 30%. Furthermore, the ‘mancession’ will eventually ensure that the only means of survival for many men is to form gangs and take valuables by force. Unloved men, who in the past would have been paired with wives, are easy for both gangs and terrorist organizations to recruit.

*Love is grand. Divorce is a hundred grand *I eat shaming tactics like tic tacs *When I see MGTOW... I see the true greatness of men

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 4140]

Bayerische Motoren wrote:

This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.

The writer of this article still blames the men. With no mention of any “innocent men”. In truth, with the comment “rather than men”, the writer does not believe there are any innocent men in this situation.

When we all know that men make up most of the innocent victims in this mess, not women.

[iLearnParticipant 2921]

According to Wayback Machine, the mgtow.com domain for the purposes of discussing men’s reality was there Oct. 25, 2006.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061025114442/http://www.mgtow.com/

[Bayerische MotorenParticipant 4914]

iLearn wrote:

According to Wayback Machine, the mgtow.com domain for the purposes of discussing men’s reality was there Oct. 25, 2006.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061025114442/http://www.mgtow.com/

holy crap, that’s a really long time! look at how far we’ve come.

*Love is grand. Divorce is a hundred grand *I eat shaming tactics like tic tacs *When I see MGTOW... I see the true greatness of men

[Jan.SobieskiParticipant 9304]

Great post.

Yes, what you think will happen when generations of men grow up uneducated, unemployed, and Unwanted.

You are going a major social upheaval.

Gone Galt and never coming back to the plantation.

[Eric LauderParticipant 1228]

This Italian article is from March 2009, it’s totally MGTOW, even too much:
“Women are an enemy race”
http://qn.quotidiano.net/2009/03/08/156544-razza_nemica_meglio_soli.shtml
“Stop. It’s much better to live alone”

It was published on a national newspaper, on 8 March 2009, women’s day 😀

Some gems:

“No civilized society can be based on female case”

“The woman is totally unreliable”

“When she starts crying, she’s bullying you: you should extract the gun, instead we surrender to her tears”

Feminism is the old notion that MEN are disposable ("women and children first!"). Value of a MAN isn't the usefulness that females get from him. Avoiding living with a female, a MAN is not rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. Any MAN who donates sperm is a traitor to his gender: traitors deserve being forced to support the child of two lesbians, that's why I support removing anonimity for sperm donors!

[phoenixParticipant 4331]

MGTOW has been around for thousands of years. Roman Emperors had to exhort men to marry, Greek women used to complain that men go off to war and when they come back they want nothing to do with women their age.

Bachelor taxes and the like proposed hundreds of years ago. Even back a century ago the term MGTOW was written by women, ironically against a bachelor tax at the time because some women didn’t think men should be bullied into marriage, but that women should instead make themselves desirable to be married.

KM has linked these articles on occasion. I’m sure they’re in the Top Guns section too. It is not a new phenomena.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 5553]

It’s been around far longer than you may think. Check out a forum called “Happy Bachelors”.

[ChauvinistPigParticipant 11606]

phoenix wrote:

women should instead make themselves desirable to be married.

They’ve gone out of their way to make sure they not even casual dating material much less marriage material.

Heil Hitlery!!!

[Masculine_ManParticipant 1127]

Bayerische Motoren wrote:

Article published Jan 1st 2010.

Note: The author of this article is not a Mgtow.

Abstract : The Western World has quietly become a civilization that has funny tainted the interaction between men and women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to inflict great harm onto their own families, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.

full article
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

This part caught my eye:

While professional men will certainly never resort to crime, what they could resort to is an unwillingness to aid a damsel in distress. More men will simply lose interest in being rescuers, and this includes policemen who may also feel mistreated by the prevailing misandry. Safety is like air – it is only noticed when it is gone. Women have a tremendous amount to lose by creating a lot of indifferent men.

[JackParticipant 310]

I was about 18 more or less when the web came into being and I saw the very first websites and took part in the early bulletin boards. There was some very interesting stuff up back then – it really was a Wild West, very similar to how the Tor/Onion web is now.

I know that a pre-MGTOW concept was around on the worldwide web as early as circa 1995/6. I recall one site in particular where the author expounded on the need for men to live independently of women.

I think he was from India.

I wonder if he’s still around and now posting on here or a similar forum?

It was a very interesting site, but I regret at the time, although I was tacitly MGTOW, I (wrongly) thought he was a crank. I now wish I could remember his name or the name of the site. I’d gladly thank him and link to it, if it’s still up.

[MichaelParticipant 400]

If you can repeal the laws built up since the 19th century that support this artificial house of cards it would come tumbling down – quick.

People tend to focus on the problems (symptoms) not the underlying cause. The problem is the lawyers and judges. Repealing no-fault divorce is a start.

This would go a long, long way.

[The Laughing ManParticipant 464]

Long read but well worth it. The comments are great too.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[John DoeParticipant 586]

2010 was about the time I started looking into MGTOW, but I started from happy bachelor’s. I was in seminary at the time and dating a girl who, at the time, I planned to eventually marry if it worked out long term. I did the whole “don’t sleep around until marriage thing”, which I still believe in, but after the relationship collapsed (rather quickly, but that is a separate story) and all the hypocrisy and bullshit and personal harassment I both seen and experienced within the church (and obviously outside of it, but it is meant to be a “moral institution”)…..something just snapped.

Come to think of it, I think there was some Tom Leykis in there too….I don’t know if he is still around.

This is just a personal story….I am not debating religion.

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