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MonteCristo on Twitter regarding Riot co-founder Marc Merrill's reddit comment on player salary, orgs finances, org stability, etc. (self.leagueoflegends)

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1st tweet, includes screenshot of Riot Tryndamere's reddit comment -- https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767895715796226048

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767896215761489920

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767896442744647680

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767897049555533824

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767898364910284800

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767898666614951936

Video later today -- https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767899144258060288

edit: Note that Tryndamere's linked comment has been edited: a screenshot of the original comment is in Monte's first tweet

edit2: more tweets from monte

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767913757662060544

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767913937857753088

just a link of this video -- https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767920374726078464

edit3: forgiven's response lul.... https://twitter.com/FORG1VENGRE/status/767914486695157760

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[–]Pedrilion 385ポイント386ポイント  (21子コメント)

"Phew, glad I cleared up some thoughts on patch timings and team ownership. Time to relax and log on twitter... oh..."

[–]SHO3SHIN3 100ポイント101ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Hello Darkness my old friend"

[–]Wb14245 39ポイント40ポイント  (5子コメント)

regi wanted this to happen 100%. Because now something might happen about it.

[–]BombOmbBuddybaby ram is on the job 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry if I'm being illiterate here... but what exactly is "it" here? Something about ownership or salaries or patches or what?

[–]Raidial 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most likely the "it" he is referring to is the recent trend shown publicly by owners of LCS teams(more specifically NALCS) that they are not happy with Riot's unilateral control of the LCS. Everything from ad revenue sharing to lack of transparency when it comes to disciplinary decisions.

[–]BombOmbBuddybaby ram is on the job 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured as much, but there are a lot of "its" these days. Thank you. :)

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        [–]backelie 847ポイント848ポイント  (163子コメント)

        There goes anyone's hope for Monte at Worlds.

        [–]miklzeh 294ポイント295ポイント  (72子コメント)

        I have given up that a long time ago. But, yeah... Confirmed :p

        [–]Shiny_Shedinja 256ポイント257ポイント  (14子コメント)

        I'll be watching him on a separate stream on twitch to much joy.

        [–]RawerPower 84ポイント85ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Inb4 he gets denied to use League content if it's not thru OGN.

        [–]Tahj42 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I don't think OGN will be dicks about it. He's already doing vod reviews on his own stream with no issues.

        [–]RawerPower 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        If he watches on OGN stream. But last year he watched the VoDs on his own channel.

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            [–]sw04ca 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

            I think the very public battle over money last year had pretty much nixed that.

            [–]Sav10rThe Savior. The Emperor 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Depending on how harsh--and from his tweets, this video will be probably be pretty scathing--we may never see Monte at another Riot sponsored event again.

            [–]sw04ca 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Honestly, that bridge has been burning for a while. The money issue started it burning, Riot's attack on his ownership stake in Renegades stoked the flames, and this will just pour gasolene on the fire.

            [–]DominoNo- 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Eh, it's not the money issue that started the burning. Doa and Papasmithy have handled that issue perfectly like professionals. Them and Monte made a simple statement why they're not going to MSI.

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              [–]MasterJax 66ポイント67ポイント  (48子コメント)

              if they remove all the good casters and just getting new shitty ones, then i'm leaving all together instead of now just watching the best games available.

              The only casters i enjoy is DoA, Monte, Riv, Kobe, Phreak

              [–]SpaceCowboy170 98ポイント99ポイント  (11子コメント)

              I feel ya. Not that it's a knock on the new guys, but my favorite league memories are watching games cast by Monte/Doa and Deman/Joe

              [–]LastxSight 63ポイント64ポイント  (7子コメント)

              I never realized how much I enjoyed Deman and Joe's casting until they were gone. :,C

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                [–]DeCa796[DeCa796] (LAN) 23ポイント24ポイント  (9子コメント)

                Azael it's really good, it's like the guy that cast play by play on China

                [–]SnowplexorHi I'm Snow 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Spawn I'm sure the person you're referring likely be one of the LPL casters.

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                      [–]adamsworstnightmare 114ポイント115ポイント  (48子コメント)

                      I honestly like his vod reviews anyway. Worlds will have plenty of realtime analysts.

                      [–]Getschi 289ポイント290ポイント  (46子コメント)

                      It's just kinda sad because of multiple reasons:

                      1. A Korean team will probably be top contender for the title (SKT, ROX and KT, assuming they win gauntlet, look pretty strong and the patch is even relatively fresh). So you would want an expert on the Korean scene on the main broadcast.

                      2. In terms of being a color caster Monte is pretty much one of the best there is in the scene. He is smart about the game, is insanely well spoken and has tons of insight (especially on the Korean scene!)

                      3. ENTERTAINMENT. Think of some memorable moments from the analyst desk from the last 3 world championships, almost all of them are with Monte.

                      [–]Shiny_Shedinja 146ポイント147ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      na/eu delay/downtime. boring as fuck

                      KR delay/downtime with monte/doa? hilarious and time flies by. It could be because they're basically allowed to talk about whatever shit they want while riot broadcasts they just awkwardly talk about pick/bans for 15 minutes or other random 'stats'.

                      [–]paccman 89ポイント90ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      while riot broadcasts they just awkwardly talk about pick/bans for 15 minutes or other random 'stats'.

                      You nailed it. Probably the rest of the casters of the other regions would be interesting and fun if they had a bit more freedom and not like Riot's which are restricted to scripts they spent the whole week writing down.

                      [–]TheEmaculateSpork 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Kobe's the one caster on NA that's super relaxed, he'll talk about random shit or meme even during the game.

                      [–]Mesial 62ポイント63ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      That Doa solo cast from a while back shows how much more interesting OGN is to Riot casting. I sat through that whole thing riveted because Doa talked about anything he wanted and he was passionate and funny. Tune into Riot streams and its shit recycled memes and generic analyst talk.

                      [–]Stealth528 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I bet Kobe and Riv just shooting the shit during pauses would be 10x more interesting than being sent back to the analyst desk.

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                              [–]iDannyELiShinobi (NA) 64ポイント65ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Monte right now.

                              [–]DussstBunnny 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That wasn't gonna happen anyway

                              [–]Diskence209 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I think anyone's hope for Monte at worlds ended when he was forced to sell his team.

                              [–]Titus_Brutus 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

                              He wasn't going to be on the analyst desk at worlds, Riot is a pretty spiteful company, as soon as he challenged them over caster salary they weren't going to invite him

                              [–]DispyFTW 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

                              I'm pretty sure they were invited to MSI, just wanted more money and Riot said no, I doubt Riot wouldn't offer again, but probably still for a lower price.

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                                [–]Grzechooo 480ポイント481ポイント  (91子コメント)

                                also, how is it that every time Marc Merrill comments on something it turns into a disaster

                                [–]LittleDrinkyPooI got you Julian, you sexy prick 349ポイント350ポイント  (76子コメント)

                                Because he only chooses to speak up about something when it's controversial.

                                [–]KadexeYi gets no respect 177ポイント178ポイント  (47子コメント)

                                That's mostly true, but it doesn't explain stuff like revealing Icefrog's real name in a Reddit comment.

                                [–]RoznosicielCiastdq was a mistake 75ポイント76ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                Holy shit, did he do that for real? How did i miss that? Any links?

                                [–]KadexeYi gets no respect 67ポイント68ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                I checked /r/SubredditDrama and found nothing, but here /r/DotA2 made a thread about it.

                                [–]shenglizhe[tempnameA704] (NA) 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I mean, should be pretty clear... He's an idiot when it comes to PR/making public statements in general. He honestly shouldn't post under his own name anymore so they can just pretend like his comments come from some low level employee that they can "fire" and give him another alias.

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                                  [–]AlcoholicSmurfAlkaholicSmurf EUW 31ポイント32ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                  And he speaks in a manner if all of us are 10-year-olds oblivious to the ways of the world.

                                  [–]Talez_pls 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Ah, the classic Blizzard approach.

                                  "You think you want it, but you don't."

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                                    [–]LCS_Pros_Hate_Me 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    That is true to some degree but his statements are flat out dumb. If it was only the fact he speaks out on controversial topics there would be some people agreeing and other people disagreeing woth tryndamere but the fact that everyone disagrees with him shows that his comments are flat out dumb. The whole e-stalking was definitely the dumbest statements I ever heard when there was at that time high elo spectator in the client and this time it seems like he is completely out of touch with the business of the professional scene. Also it is extremely dumb to comment on certain topics with a reddit comment because you aren't really thinking through what you are saying and as co-owner you really have to watch what you are saying. Anyways its pretty obvious brandon beck is the smart one while marc just surfs reddit and finds dumb shit to say.

                                    [–]Sakagami0[Ertyui] (NA) 30ポイント31ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    I dont know how long youve been here or how many other games youve seen but Riot's ceo is and has been trash. He isnt vested in the game as much as he's interested in making money. And this rides down the corporate ladder and shows to the people he hires and the players. Its sad seeing Riot breaking promises over the years and prioritize the money maker versus the player like they used to. And each time they do, it further damages the community. People still playing the game is a testament to the brilliance of the overarching game concept but is no means perfectly reflective of the company's performance. Not to say they did only bad, there are plenty of places where they do well.

                                    Perhaps its an unfair comparison but if youve ever seen Gabe talk, you can tell he's a guy who doesnt front an HR squelch. He plays the games he help create. He knows the community down to the pros and the memes. The one time where he caused an uproar, he acknowledged his mistake and work around was implemented all within a week.

                                    But really, you shouldnt defend the Marc. He'll leave the game and talk about how if people were so mad, why did they give him so much money.

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                                      [–]Xetiw 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      most likely because every person has their own point of view, he comments his point of view from above, while team owners, players, average people see things from below.

                                      its like people believing Riot runs pro scene on a lose, just the skins they make for words (based on a player who doesnt even get a DIME for it, not even his own skin for free rofl), and the championship skins the revenue they make is enough money to run league for a couple years including salaries from pro players.

                                      so no, for me "Riot doesnt give us a pro scene for free", they profit from it, and it works as a way to promote their game.

                                      its easy as, if theres not money involved for the players, they wont play because they would rate move on with their lifes, there'd be no pro scene, or it will be shit from people playing for a split or two.

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                                        [–]Kiyoh 348ポイント349ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                        Beat me to it....

                                        For better formatting:

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767895715796226048

                                        Riot is insanely out of touch with the state of eSports.

                                        The company president comes up with another gem: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4z1eec/reginald_on_how_riots_major_patch_changes_hurt/d6sarg4

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767896215761489920

                                        Let’s be clear: LoL doesn’t make teams money in the post-VC world. Merrill is vomiting a line told to him by the Riot eSports department.

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767896442744647680

                                        Can’t count the number of times Riot eSports accused teams of using “LoL money” to support other games.

                                        They are wrong.

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767897049555533824

                                        Also reminder that Tryndamere runs a company that will not pay casters an industry standard rate. He definitely knows the broader market.

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767898364910284800

                                        You want players to get paid more, @MarcMerrill? Get sponsors for your league and give teams rev share. That will work 100%.

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767898666614951936

                                        I am so FUCKING mad.

                                        https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/767899144258060288

                                        It is all coming out now.

                                        Video later today.

                                        Monte right now

                                        [–]MasterMirage[MasterMirage] (OCE) 120ポイント121ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        As a mobile user, thank you.

                                        [–]TweetsInCommentsBotGO ORIGEN! 46ポイント47ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        @MonteCristo

                                        2016-08-23 01:26 UTC

                                        Riot is insanely out of touch with the state of eSports.

                                        The company president comes up with another gem:

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                                        @MonteCristo

                                        2016-08-23 01:29 UTC

                                        Can’t count the number of times Riot eSports accused teams of using “LoL money” to support other games.

                                        They are wrong.

                                        @MonteCristo

                                        2016-08-23 01:36 UTC

                                        You want players to get paid more, @MarcMerrill?

                                        Get sponsors for your league and give teams rev share. That will work 100%.

                                        @MonteCristo

                                        2016-08-23 01:39 UTC

                                        It is all coming out now.

                                        Video later today.

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                                        [–]lnt_[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                        People with RES should see exactly this on expansion, but good idea to do it first for those without. Upvoted so they can see it :) have a nice day

                                        [–]Altson2411 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Yup currently on mobile and that was a wonderful time saver.

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                                            [–]stark_resilient 936ポイント937ポイント  (298子コメント)

                                            you know you fucked up big time when monte, thooorin, regi all banding together against injustice.

                                            [–]MelGibsonDerp 499ポイント500ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                            AFAIK Regi and Monte are cordial now. But getting Thooorin in for the 3 some is the true Unicorn.

                                            This video is going to be fucking amazing.

                                            [–]IcingNinja 171ポイント172ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                            Regi and Monte are extremely on point about the patch change scene. I dont think anyone should really think that thorin is actually credible tho. 21 MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE POOL FOR DOTA2 BOYZ and ffs its not "begging players for money" if they could have easily taken it all.

                                            [–]daswefekko swain 580ポイント581ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                            Well the everlasting problem seems to be that you're not sure which Thoorin you're gonna get that day: esports historian thoorin who is very knowledgeable and well spoken, or contrarian memer thoorin who decides to spent three hours of a video beating on strawmen.

                                            [–]Earcollector 165ポイント166ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                            One of the most accurate descriptions of Thoorin I have ever read.

                                            [–]daswefekko swain 120ポイント121ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                            And i should add that I was, and still am a Thoorin fan. I'll check out every video that he makes on League and i'll evaluate if i want to watch it or not. But unfortunately with him watching less League and caring less about the game and more about messing with Rekkles fans or TSM fans, I find myself not wanting to watch his videos very often anymore. A year or a year and a half ago I watched everything he made but its unfortunate that his quality isn't the same.

                                            [–]Nizagi 30ポイント31ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            Are you me?

                                            [–]daswefekko swain 70ポイント71ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Yes. I'm you and everyone else here, as we're all just alternate accounts of Karmanaut.

                                            [–]cryptekz[Cryptekz] (NA) 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            ALL GLORY TO THE KARMANAUT.

                                            [–]xiic 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Yes. I'm you and everyone else here, as we're all just alternate accounts of Chanman.

                                            FTFY

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                                              [–]Earcollector 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              Yeah, I am pretty much the same way. I loved all his series, and I still look forward to Summoner's Insight.

                                              When he is on point, he is one of the more insightful analysts I have ever listened to. He has a rather unique perspective on things, and he makes connections and correlations in situations I would never have thought of. In fact I believe some of his insight is because he does not spend all of his time on League. He approaches various topics with methodologies and biases that the majority of League analysts do not have. His sport analogies are spot on.

                                              However, this advantage of his is double-edged when combined with his personality. He is VERY prone to making unyielding judgements about things around him. Now, whenever he makes a video based on League, and a topic that he is not well-informed on comes up, he tries to make a correlation with something he DOES know, and work with that. The problem is, he does not know enough of the current "State of the League" to make accurate correlations. Combine this with his propensity to entertain his audience, and can often go for the easy jabs. Sadly, even his insults are dated, and it is really killing his charm. With no analysis or witty trash talking, only his ability to lead discussions and conduct interviews remain. Of course, he hasn't done much of this, either.

                                              [–]daswefekko swain 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I can't confirm all of his sport analogies since the only traditional sports i've ever followed were Baseball in the mid 2000s and hockey and he mostly talks about basketball.

                                              With no analysis or witty trash talking, only his ability to lead discussions and conduct interviews remain. Of course, he hasn't done much of this, either.

                                              Monte becoming too busy to do frequent summoning insights definitely seems to have hurt Thorin more than Monte. It really seems like Thorin has not kept up to date and he's drifting further and further away from the game and his League fans.

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                                                          [–]AnunEnkiKT Rolocoaster 175ポイント176ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                                          This is gonna be a crazy week. Scarra was even mentioning in his stream that this week is going to be filled with drama. I can't believe literally every time I see this riot tryn guy on reddit he manages to make himself look like an even bigger fool than previously (the last time being the spectate faker fiasco)

                                                          [–]Big1Jake 157ポイント158ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                                          That riot tryn guy is the CEO, which makes it even more impressive :^)

                                                          [–]Draki1903 151ポイント152ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                                          Playoffs aren't even over and we already have off-season drama. Hybrid quits Origen, CLG gets fucked over on a random factor, Regi goes hard on Riot, Riot starts poking the anthill, Yorick rework is about to get dropped, "suboptimal" is this month's meme of choice - and it's only Tuesday.

                                                          I expect some dank-ass ESEX action in 48 hours.

                                                          [–]spartanss300 93ポイント94ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                          Getting ready fot this week.

                                                          http://i.imgur.com/iJIW89B.gif

                                                          [–]IcyColdStarecensoring the sub one removal at a time[M] 138ポイント139ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                          help

                                                          [–]Sir_Markis 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          OH HEY ICYCOLDSTARE

                                                          [–]IcyColdStarecensoring the sub one removal at a time 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          Hey fam, how you doin'

                                                          [–]SnowplexorHi I'm Snow 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Oh shit it's THE IcyColdStare in green mode to give us some icy cold stares

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                                                            [–]Draki1903 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Someone needs to rewrite these two strips

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                                                                  [–]OmniredditOmnivalents 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Does anyone have a link for this, really curious.

                                                                  [–]Duzcek 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  2 months ago he revealed IceFrog's identity on Reddit. The lead developer of Dota all the way back from Dota Allstars like 14 years ago and someone who's tried to remain totally anonymous that entire time. Then out of nowhere marc Merrill comes and gives all of Reddit his name, something's he's successfullly hidden this entire time.

                                                                  [–]Sakuyalzayoi 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Even more recently was the icefrog comment, wherein he proceeds to doxx icefrog after years of him trying to keep his identity secret

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                                                                    [–]KaptainKhorisma 59ポイント60ポイント  (184子コメント)

                                                                    And Regi has the money to talk shit too, I mean what are they going to do? Punish TSM?

                                                                    [–]DarthVantos 320ポイント321ポイント  (173子コメント)

                                                                    Make regi sell his team, claim he and c9 are part of the same org. Provide no facts to back up claim and say all the players felt in danger.

                                                                    Community drones will eat it up and we will forget about Regi.

                                                                    [–]Reishun 86ポイント87ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                    C9/TSM and probably TL/CLG are orgs Riot would be stupid to try and sabotage. One of those orgs gets fucked and the other 3 will probably not side with Riot, the game can easily survive without those orgs but the backlash on Riot from fans would kill the pro scene.

                                                                    [–]WildVariety 150ポイント151ポイント  (92子コメント)

                                                                    Make Regi sell TSM and watch the popularity of the game suffer. I know I would stop giving a shit if TSM had zero league presence.

                                                                    [–]jamis7 29ポイント30ポイント  (54子コメント)

                                                                    Who do you think needs the othe more TSM or Riot? What would TSM have to fall back on if they didn't have a league team. They have a shitty CSGO team and I think they maybe have an overwatch team? Maybe they sponor a few random other people here and there but their brand is pretty dependant on Leage of Legends right now. Without the LoL team the value of TSM would go right in the shitter.

                                                                    [–]Torasr 70ポイント71ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                    True. Deleting TSM would wreck their system though. Good luck getting people to invest when you make horrible PR moves and randomly kick teams out.

                                                                    [–]Aerys 52ポイント53ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                    RNG was one thing, but TSM? TSM are THE league of legends team for westerners. 6 time world qualifiers, in every single LCS final I believe as well. Riot would be insane to remove them.

                                                                    [–]NephilemThingy 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                    NA's golden boy and one of league's poster teams. That'd be like removing the fucking Giants from the NFL. I don't even watch football besides the superbowl and the brackets leading up to it lol.

                                                                    [–]Duzcek 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    More like removing the cowboys but basically it would just be ridiculous for them to try.

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                                                                          [–]dayydream 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                          TSM is pretty dependent on LoL but their CSGO team isn't shit. In fact, they beat C9 in the last ECS Finals although it was a while back. Also C9 took a player from TSM's CSGO roster pretty recently. I also wouldn't call people like Leffen, Zero, Kripp etc. "random people".

                                                                          [–]MrFlour 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          People keep saying this and while I know it's not exactly a booming market TSM has two of the top smashers in the world? Or do we not count smashers?

                                                                          [–]Midknight226 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                          Riot wouldn't get away with that in any world.

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                                                                              [–]TaintedQuintessence 26ポイント27ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                              There's a higher chance of the top teams forming their own league and getting outside sponsors than Regi selling his team.

                                                                              [–]frugskie 11ポイント12ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                              thats not legal tho isnt it?

                                                                              [–]TaintedQuintessence 6ポイント7ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                              I'm not sure on the legality. Is permission needed to run a third party tournament or monetize LoL via streaming?

                                                                              [–]Baamz 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                              Well, there is no public LAN client. So that makes things difficult.

                                                                              [–]DontLookAtThisXD 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                              yes RIOT has full IP rights they could stop any use of their IP for monetization, and on that note so could any other esport game developer, which certainly has caused problems in the past and will in the future once 3rd party interests are involved

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                                                                                      [–]MyUshankaPatchhes (NA) 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                      It's like the NFL punishing the Patr-- wait.

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                                                                                          [–]AddictionFiction 666ポイント667ポイント  (83子コメント)

                                                                                          How is it that every time tryndamere emerges from the shadows to make a statement he somehow manages to lodge his foot even further in his mouth.

                                                                                          You think that after the spectateFaker fiasco he would have learned by now.

                                                                                          [–]iDannyELiShinobi (NA) 853ポイント854ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                          Hi I'm Marc 'Tryndamere' Merrill and this is my company. I work here with my co-founder and CEO Brandon 'Ryze' Beck, "Let's Go!"

                                                                                          Everyone here is young and inexperienced. One thing I've learned in our 10 years, you never know what is gonna come out our mouths.

                                                                                          [–]fuzzball007[Fuzz Ball 007 / FluffySnuffles (OCE) 91ポイント92ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                          solid maymay, friend

                                                                                          [–]stark_resilient 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          spicy

                                                                                          [–]The-Loracks 17ポイント18ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                          Is it even his company anymore, I thought some Chinese investment company owns most of riot now.

                                                                                          [–]Bukk4keASIAN 45ポイント46ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                          yeah Tencent owns a majority stake, if not all of Riot, but they left creative development up to Riot.

                                                                                          [–]Sakuyalzayoi 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          apparently they haven't owned the company since 2008

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                                                                                              [–]RoyalIe 25ポイント26ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                                                              What was the tiltfest?

                                                                                              [–]DussstBunnny 78ポイント79ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                                              Someone had a stream to spectate Faker's soloq and Riot Tryndamere made him take it down threatened legal action because he said that it was "e-stalking"

                                                                                              [–]onewhitelight(OCE) 131ポイント132ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                                              Faker and SKT wanted it taken down, not Tryndamere.

                                                                                              [–]Evin007 157ポイント158ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                              Also partly Azubu, as Faker is contracted to stream under them so technically they were losing viewership on their own site if people chose to watch Faker's soloq games on Twitch instead.

                                                                                              [–]BelugaToo 142ポイント143ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                              Yeah let's not be silly here. Azubu wanted the takedown to protect their investment. Almost guarantee that nobody else involved actually gave a shit.

                                                                                              The fact that Riot's API allowed this stream made Riot have to take an outlandish position in order to take it down. They could have been honest and said "one of our corporate partners has the rights to Faker's streams" but no... It was cyber bullying. Shake my fucking head.

                                                                                              [–]PlatinumHappy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                              Exactly, only Azubu has clear gain from taking it down and they sponsored SKT so it's SKT's best interest to go along with whatever Azubu said.

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                                                                                                [–]AddictionFiction 30ポイント31ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                The problem wasn't Faker and SKT, azubu filed the claim saying they owned the content when they didn't. Anyone could've used Riot's API to spectate faker's games at their leisure and it was tryndamere's statement about the guy running the stream that was outlandish. Once Faker and SKT expressed their concerns the controversy was pretty much over and the stream was gone.

                                                                                                [–]xRingo 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                Lol? The dude who ran the stream, posted threads here saying he would take it down then he came back and said like fuck everyone, i'm keeping the stream going.

                                                                                                [–]KimiRhythm[KimiRhythm] (EU-W) 71ポイント72ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                IIRC the guy who ran the stream kept saying he'd take it down if Faker himself asked him to stop, but when Faker actually did he kept on going

                                                                                                [–]MibitGoHan 66ポイント67ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                Yep. Dude was high on what tiny power he had.

                                                                                                [–]mertcanhekim 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                That guy was a huge asshole. Everything he said is a lie.

                                                                                                [–]SevensSea 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                Iirc he lied about not making money from the stream, then at the end tweeted it was all worth it for the $5k he made or something.

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                                                                                                      [–]LegendsNeverDie1 839ポイント840ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                                                                      The best part about all of this is the video he is going to make while pissed off. Monte's salt knows no limits. This man makes the Dead Sea the 2nd saltiest place on Earth.

                                                                                                      The video is going to be glorious.

                                                                                                      [–]Amsement 187ポイント188ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                      Monte rant hype! I honestly really enjoyed his last video about franchising; hope this one is just as good.

                                                                                                      [–]ci425 65ポイント66ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                                      Overall Reddit seemed to be split 50/50 on franchising, This whole fiasco might tip the scale.

                                                                                                      The things Monte mentioned like revenue sharing, and adding sponsors are both big parts of franchising, plus it kicks riot out of managing the LCS.

                                                                                                      [–]Crownocity 65ポイント66ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                      I don't think I've seen anyone here who's opposed to getting sponsors or revenue sharing. I'd rather watch 3 minutes of on stream ads than Twitch ads that make the stream lag to shit and are twice as loud as the stream.

                                                                                                      Revenue sharing isn't even a franchising thing, at least from "sponsorship" deals. The Premier League does it with broadcasting.

                                                                                                      [–]npsnicholas 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                      They don't even need to run commercials. Put a can of coke sitting on the analyst's desk and slap a banner under the champ select screen. There's really no harm in it as long as it isn't too intrusive.

                                                                                                      [–]JenaxuI've embraced the memes 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                      I mean, they have 3-5 minutes of dead time anyway, it really doesn't bother anyone if they slap some commercials in there.

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                                                                                                        [–]Aesidius 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        Oh boy, here we go again. Franchising doesn't equal sponsorship. You can have the later without the former.

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                                                                                                          [–]Draki1903 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                          I'm hyping up rewatching Salty Reynad moments

                                                                                                          [–]OhMrSun 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          me right now

                                                                                                          [–]Mercyfulfait2g Army 21ポイント22ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7oMBq1vkCM

                                                                                                          [–]Doomblitz 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                          HE WON'T GIVE IN HE WON'T GIVE IN

                                                                                                          [–]Varnyon 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                          TILL HE'S VICTORIOUS

                                                                                                          [–]zazum 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                          And he will defend, he will defend, and he will do WHAT HE MUST.

                                                                                                          [–]ZebradamusDoublelift flair plz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          nods head

                                                                                                          [–]KaptainKhorisma 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          FUCK YES! It will be....Glorious.

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                                                                                                              [–]_Slate 143ポイント144ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                                                              Riot and LoL seem to have really outgrown the founders.

                                                                                                              [–]PlatinumHappy 41ポイント42ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                              I still believe people who are actually working game are passionate and talented. It's just that company has grown too big to have upper management people's who are out of touch making clueless/shitty decisions which trickle down to ruin public image.

                                                                                                              [–]ZiiaaaacFaker once had a Dream and boy was it a Classic. 96ポイント97ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                              Riot is bad for League of Legends.

                                                                                                              I've said it since the start of season 3.

                                                                                                              If anything kills League, it will be it's developer.

                                                                                                              [–]NephilemThingy 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                              Almost like any continually developing game that isn't "complete" on release.

                                                                                                              On a serious note, would it have been any other "being" than Riot themselves that would ruin their game. Their terrible balancing and timing for said balances (Oh season 5 worlds, how you continue to be one of the funniest yet ugliest times in pro-lol history), their terrible programming (I get it, coding is not that easy, but seriously, when bugs can go on for months, almost years, that's just being shit at it, especially if it's only addressed when seen in pro-play), and just shitty attitude towards everything and how they "miscommunicate" (rip soloque).

                                                                                                              Riot is the perfect example of how to take the goose that lays golden eggs, and make it into a bird barely hanging on in a hospital wired to machines, just to get a few more fucking eggs.

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                                                                                                                  [–]CalmTigerCloud 9 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                  People always say how much they hate when companies use PR style responses and statements, but this is a perfect example of why you don't let your CEO run his own social media.

                                                                                                                  [–]OhMrSun 223ポイント224ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Monte's response doesn't surprise me, given all of the crap behind the Renegades fiasco. And Tryndamere's statement regarding the growth and stability of competitive LoL... Challenger scene remains a pitfall for many aspiring pros/orgs trying to make it big, and Tryndamere is suggesting that Regi isn't paying his players enough when he pays his players the most out of any western org? Tryndamere and Riot Games basically have monopolized pro LoL since season 3 with the LCS, and he's got the audacity telling the most competent western owner to put more money into his eSport?

                                                                                                                  [–]KaptainKhorisma 140ポイント141ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Yeah for him to lash out and not only call Regi a cheapskate but then accuse him of not fairly paying his players? If I were Regi I'd be all in his grill calling him out on his bullshit. Regi hands down has the best infrastructure in competitive esports and what Tryndamere is suggesting is baseless

                                                                                                                  [–]FancySkunk[Debonair Mundo] (NA) 62ポイント63ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Obviously players take massive salary cuts to be one of the lucky few to get to wear the black and white. Rumor is that Biofrost's signing bonus was a 24 pack of ramen.

                                                                                                                  In all seriousness though, it seems like a really stupid argument to make. Don't Fnatic (and EU teams in general) pay less for players than TSM and the rest of NA? Isn't Fnatic actually a name in other esports? Why does he have to bag on specifically TSM?

                                                                                                                  I don't even particularly like TSM, but this shit is just stupid out of Riot.

                                                                                                                  [–]KaptainKhorisma 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                  I feel like because Regi made a statement about Riot as an entity that he almost felt obligated to clapback at him. I'm with you, I'm not a TSM fan at all and to load your gun and shoot at anything that moves is foolish.

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                                                                                                                    [–]Sav10rThe Savior. The Emperor 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Regi hands down has the best infrastructure in competitive esports in the West

                                                                                                                    FTFY

                                                                                                                    But in all honesty, why are people surprised? LCS, LPL, and LCK are simply a means of keeping people interested and invested in their game--more than anything it's publicity.

                                                                                                                    [–]Regvlas 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                    https://twitter.com/TSMReginald/status/767842563671724033

                                                                                                                    Dun worry, he has a response.

                                                                                                                    [–]yaomon17 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Donezo Manifesto making a return

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                                                                                                                    2016-08-22 21:55 UTC

                                                                                                                    Going to respond to Marc's comment. So much to say that it'll take me a while to write this all down.

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                                                                                                                      [–]Cire101 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                                      While I agree with you, you don't actually have numbers on how much Regi pays the TSM players..

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                                                                                                                        [–]TheTURNERNATOR 279ポイント280ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                                                                                                        You guys know how in some movies, at the end, the 2 rivals come together to team up and destroy the true evil

                                                                                                                        This is what it's looking like when Regi and Monte team up on Riot

                                                                                                                        [–]Rawrhock 207ポイント208ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Are you ready for the super special episode of Summoning Insight where Regi comes on to discuss Riot's role in the esport?

                                                                                                                        [–]ergonelsa 70ポイント71ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Hell yeah

                                                                                                                        [–]dmhmak 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        http://imgur.com/gallery/NnoGhN1

                                                                                                                        [–]Elu202 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                        that is never gonna happen

                                                                                                                        [–]daswefekko swain 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Everyone said that there was zero chance of Locodoco and Monte being friends again and then he came back on the show.

                                                                                                                        Never say never.

                                                                                                                        [–]Zester54 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        idk they got Amazing on SI

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                                                                                                                          [–]MelGibsonDerp 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_mXpaReTRo

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                                                                                                                            [–]Jollygood156 149ポイント150ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                            Riot tryndamere will be the one thing to get Regi on SI.

                                                                                                                            2 enemies drawn together by both of there enemies

                                                                                                                            [–]FreeMystwing 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                                            "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

                                                                                                                            [–]xgenoriginalⰁⰀⰓⰄⰑⰂⰍⰀ, ⰝⰓⰅⰈ ⰁⰑⰆⰉⰤⰕⰀ ⰁⰎⰀⰃⰑⰄⰕ, ⰍⰓⰀⰎ ⰐⰀ ⰈⰅⰎⰅ 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                            The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, and I will slaughter them both in His name.

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                                                                                                                              [–]PhunkOperator 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                              their* enemies

                                                                                                                              Sorry

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                                                                                                                                [–]AlexD1891 94ポイント95ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                the last one was the best...

                                                                                                                                I'M SO FUCKING MAD.

                                                                                                                                [–]Goldenbear333 134ポイント135ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                                                                                                                It's frustratingly sad that he had to edit out that condescending line he originally had implying Regi's failed investments. If you can't properly comment on a sensitive topic, then at least have the nerve to keep your original statement instead of pretending it was never there. I'm pretty excited to see Thoorin's, Monte's, and Regi's views on this.

                                                                                                                                [–]TakeOutTacos 100ポイント101ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                                                                Not even the failed investments. It was literally a huge meme on this sub about regi offering more money than H2k to svenskeren.

                                                                                                                                Basically every player who has ever commented on it has said that tsm pays the highest, and reginald moved weldon and his entire family here from Europe to help his team win. It's pretty ridiculous to even pretend to say he doesn't play his players enough.

                                                                                                                                Then you have to add on all of the other ridiculous crap he spewed despite his foot being lodged in his in throat.

                                                                                                                                [–]FiftySentos 45ポイント46ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                                It was literally a huge meme on this sub about regi offering more money than H2k to svenskeren.

                                                                                                                                The meme was about H2K offering 5 point 5 fucking k a month. Nothing about TSM paying more. IIRC H2K ended up with an offer with more money but Sven still chose to sign with TSM, probably due to other benefits like the huge ass fanbase.

                                                                                                                                [–]IceMaNTICORE 19ポイント20ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                                to be clear, their last offer was more than tsm's previous offer, but came after sven had already signed for tsm...let's not pretend that h2k could ever win a bidding war against tsm in a thousand years

                                                                                                                                [–]Crownocity 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                                He buys them multiple team houses over the years, probably pays for bills, transport and equipment, treats them to food all the time, compensates them for lost streaming money, payed for Weldon's family to move to Cali, helps the players build their brands, doesn't take any prize money and pays competitive wages. He even found OddOne and Dyrus their retirement home for them and none of his former players (I don't think TRM does but idk) thinks badly of him. He's been doing these before every other western league team has (except from Korea bootcamps and getting coaches).

                                                                                                                                I don't know if any other League owner does and has done more for his team than Regi.

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                                                                                                                                    [–]WhatIsADankMeme 86ポイント87ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    Whats up with people at Riot and using the word delta interchangeably with the word difference. They aren't the same word. Delta is a Greek letter that can in some instances mean difference.

                                                                                                                                    [–]drpepper7557 69ポイント70ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    Its a weird buzzword going around Riot's office. All the casters are using it too. Like 5 times a game. And delta isnt really supposed to mean the difference between two separate things. Its supposed to be the difference between two values at given times, i.e. a change of value.

                                                                                                                                    A quick google search doesnt come up with any usage close to what theyre using it for (ex: delta between two different player's salaries, delta between two team's gold totals, etc.). I'm fairly certain its improper usage.

                                                                                                                                    [–]Ignitus1 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    This bothered me too. Delta is the change of a single thing not the difference between two things.

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                                                                                                                                      [–]jrmunro11 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      Holy shit that has annoyed me whenever they say it on stream during games

                                                                                                                                      [–]CalmTigerCloud 9 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      You know when you have a young child that just got his vocabulary list for the week? It's like that.

                                                                                                                                      [–]Flubber_Car 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      Some one at riot came from a physics or calc background and spread the love of DELTA. My money is on Jatt or Kobe teaching Phreak some dank integrals.

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                                                                                                                                        [–]CmenDmen123 99ポイント100ポイント  (75子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        Welp there goes Monte's chance of casting at worlds!

                                                                                                                                        [–]antirr 90ポイント91ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        It was kinda inferred (not explicitly stated though) by PapaSmithy who was in the twitch chat yesterday for the LCK promo games that no LCK casters will be at Worlds either.

                                                                                                                                        [–]KillerBunny_Facestab 103ポイント104ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        it's so sad because I think they're the best casters in the game. They know how to match the tempo of the game with their commentary, and they're funny/entertaining but never over the top or annoying.

                                                                                                                                        I'm also incredibly biased towards Korea so there's that too

                                                                                                                                        [–]AlcoholicSmurfAlkaholicSmurf EUW 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        Yeah, in the semi where Pira was casting eu was the first time I literally had to mute his CONSTANT SCREECHING. No skill of reading game tempo or energy level, just worlds final deciding teamfight screaming at every skirmish in a little jungle invade at 7min in a game 2.

                                                                                                                                        [–]Darkbento 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        That's one of the reasons i hate watching EULCS since last season, this caster is horrendeous when it comes to hyping things up because he doesn't actually feel the hype himself. If he is unable to read the flow of a game or care about it, he should at least practice faking it better, just feels annoying and cringey listening to him.

                                                                                                                                        [–]comounjeffe 21ポイント22ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                                                        They are great casters but I don't think you can say that bold of a term. There are a lot of great casters but it will definitely suck not having Monte and Doa there(or even Papa).

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                                                                                                                                            [–]Asteroth555 59ポイント60ポイント  (46子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            Let's be honest, after the LCK casters ditched MSI, there was no chance any of them would be invited to the world's broadcast team.

                                                                                                                                            [–]Vesoriasspooky day 42ポイント43ポイント  (44子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            ditched

                                                                                                                                            Not quite how I remember it.

                                                                                                                                            Edit: I know what happened, I'm saying that's hardly "ditching" an event.

                                                                                                                                            [–]Asteroth555 57ポイント58ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            They were invited and they publicly declined to go. You can argue they were trying to stick it to Riot for underpaying freelancers, but Riot won't give a shit. They have over 16 casters between EU NA and LPL. They won't need a few freelancers from OGN.

                                                                                                                                            I'd be shocked if Riot invites any of them

                                                                                                                                            [–]sokoteur 22ポイント23ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            It's not really an argument. Riot offered far less pay because they have control of Riot-caster-pay and think that's fair (typical film/tv/media/trade industry bullshit) and if they had paid OGN crew the standard, they'd be faced with 2 possibilities:
                                                                                                                                            1) riot casters wanting higher pay and getting it - meaning riot is now paying more money to casters (which it's obvious, they don't want that.)
                                                                                                                                            2) riot casters wanting higher pay and not getting it, which (if riot casters felt it was unfair) could lead to riot losing any number of their casters.
                                                                                                                                            So yes it's simple for Riot, they don't give a shit about 'a few freelancers' because it would only cause them problems. Defend them for looking out for their wallet, but don't say the OGN crew ditched them. It's an underhanded insult to freelancers and a cheap attempt at saying 'it's not Riot's fault'.

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                                                                                                                                                    [–]Exulvos 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                    The Prophet Himself, Travis Gafford. Esports Journalist and Timelord

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                                                                                                                                                    Tension between the owners and Riot has been brewing for a while. I think we're about to see nuclear war. This week will be interesting.

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                                                                                                                                                      [–]BODYCATCH 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                      Why does it give me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside when Monte and Regi are on the same page?

                                                                                                                                                      [–]TazanatorXI Pull Out Late 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                      Because it doesn't happen often, but damn it when it does, it's magical.

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                                                                                                                                                        [–]dude_in_college 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        Marc Merrill really needs to let his friend BRANDON BECK do the talking before he embarrasses himself any further. Brandon's clearly the brains of the two--he worked at Bain & Company

                                                                                                                                                        [–]NightKnight96#VACATIONTIME 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        My favourite reply I saw.

                                                                                                                                                        "@MonteCristo Is this you subtly saying you won't be at worlds"

                                                                                                                                                        [–]adamsworstnightmare 50ポイント51ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        Usually I'm on the "everyone is overreacting" side of these things but damn am I ready to see monte tear riot a new asshole.

                                                                                                                                                        [–]RisenLazarus 56ポイント57ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        /u/CyborgRunsOnDunkin

                                                                                                                                                        I shall remember this glorious moment of absolute bullshittery forever.

                                                                                                                                                        [–]thedjally 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        The part about the pay inequalities was my favorite. Oh my sweet summer child Monte makes more and didn't want to devalue his brand by accepting less from the "big boys". God bless you Reddit for making my night.

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                                                                                                                                                          [–]KaptainKhorisma 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, Monte has my attention. Tyrnd basically shit on Regi which has one of the biggest orgs in his sport and this his retort? I hope Monte goes the fuck in on them

                                                                                                                                                          [–]AnimeScythe 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                          How I feel while waiting for Monte video

                                                                                                                                                          [–]purplebus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                          God damn Monte going in hard! I love it.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]KimmieSan 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                          we can meme about it, but when you hear all these kids droping highschool for a 2 year long carrer, playing 16 hours / 8 hours sleep every day, and then playing under so much pressure having 100k+ people watching to get paid only 2-3 times as much as a fcking walmart employe that sorts boxes is sad, and riot earned over 3 billion in 2015, not even fcking kidding 3 THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS, google that shit

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