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[–]tw547 1487ポイント1488ポイント  (557子コメント)

No real end-game goals.

I'm sure whenever this was brought up before NMS's release, people said something along the line of "Who needs end-game goal when you have so many world to explore."

Edit. I'm not saying that having no end-game goal is a bad thing.

[–]MonkeyXing 1320ポイント1321ポイント  (421子コメント)

[–]RichardStiffson 1215ポイント1216ポイント  (337子コメント)

You can't be serious.

[–]Bonemonster 1091ポイント1092ポイント  (326子コメント)

100% serious. The galaxies also cap at 255. After that, 256+, you just get put back in 255 under a different name.

As of right now there is absolutely no reason to go to the center of the galaxy.

[–]My3rdAccountThisweek 635ポイント636ポイント  (204子コメント)

All the galaxies are the same thing under a different name.

[–]Bonemonster 353ポイント354ポイント  (135子コメント)

This makes it worse.

[–]rationalcomment 526ポイント527ポイント  (130子コメント)

The ending is just one big middle finger to gamers.

Biggest disappointment ever. Fucking Mass Effect 3 had a masterful ending compared to this.

[–]TheRealLee 303ポイント304ポイント  (44子コメント)

That you could say that ME3 had a masterful ending compared to NMS makes me so glad I didn't get NMS.

[–]Gorbish 134ポイント135ポイント  (36子コメント)

Same here. Wanted the game, but due to a lot of pre ordering crap in the past years I've learned to wait. Glad I did.

[–]Dill_Pickle_ 19ポイント20ポイント  (14子コメント)

At this point, I only pre-order games that I know for a fact I will enjoy no matter what, tho it's disappointing when your favorite game series releases something awful :(

[–]scott610 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's it? It's like a fancy Windows XP space screensaver. Wow.

[–]TheGuyAboveMeEatsPoo 100ポイント101ポイント  (23子コメント)

I don't know how anyone pre orders or buys deluxe editions anymore. People need to start treating the game industry like they've done the movies. Make a bad product? Lose out massively.

[–]Wallace_II 79ポイント80ポイント  (67子コメント)

I haven't seen anything on this, but as far as I can tell what you just said is like saying that all minecraft worlds are the same. The new galaxy should be procedurally generated with a new seed.

[–]Ebbboorsma 75ポイント76ポイント  (9子コメント)

It isn't though. One guy on youtube went to the 11th one and there is NO difference besides the name. Same minerals, ships, planet types, and enemies.

[–]iwiggums 173ポイント174ポイント  (43子コメント)

If minecraft worlds could truly extend infinitely as they're supposed to, then all minecraft worlds are one in the same, just with different spawn points.

[–]DoctorProfPatrick 64ポイント65ポイント  (25子コメント)

I don't think they're supposed to be infinite (at least, any single world is supposed to cap out at like 8x the size of earth).

But that's still mind blowing to think about...

[–]MacGuffiin 39ポイント40ポイント  (14子コメント)

I believe in the alpha days it was infinite but they changed that

[–]DoctorProfPatrick 57ポイント58ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yea, for memory reason IIRC. If you could warp to block (450000000000, 999999999999, 1234567899), then the save file would be impossibly large.

[–]Mikal_Scott 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ah yes alpha...the days of lighting something on fire and the whole world would burn.

[–]RiOrius 85ポイント86ポイント  (5子コメント)

Common misconception. Consider the infinite sequence:

1,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2...

It goes on infinitely, but never repeats itself. Nor will it ever contain the subsequence "1,2,1".

Just because something goes on forever doesn't mean it has to go everywhere.

[–]kaibee 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think OP right though. He isn't saying that all minecraft worlds contain every conceivable "possible" minecraft world, but that they do contain every minecraft world that could be generated by their random generation methods. The sub-sequence "1,2,1" in this case would refer to something that is forcibly removed during world gen, like for example if a cluster of diamonds is placed too close to another, then one is removed. No matter how many times you generate worlds, 2 clusters wouldn't appear nearer to each other than that set limit. This does depend on how their random generation works though. An infinite sequence of 1's and 0's chosen at random will eventually contain every possible finite sub-sequence, even if it will never contain a 2.

[–]passivelyaggressiver 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

How human, to ask for infinite, with only finite time to spend.

[–]Argarck 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

procedurally generated

Same filters on the planets, same shades of colors, same lego created creatures, same random words.

Same, fucking repetitive gameplay.

NMS is a bad minecraft

[–]RichardStiffson 60ポイント61ポイント  (76子コメント)

Holy hell. I figured by then maybe they'd realize the error in their ways and patch something to allow limited multi-player or some other new interesting feature to build intrigue. I mean, that was my last dying candle to buying this game, but it just went out.

[–]weewolf 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy hell. I figured by then maybe they'd realize the error in their ways and release no mans sky two with more features

Fixed it for ya.

[–]devianaut 89ポイント90ポイント  (34子コメント)

wish I could be in your position. I played it non stop for four days. did everything I could in the game and more... ended up regretting buying it.

there's zero depth in the game and in the experience playing it. everything eventually feels silly and hokey. once you leave a planet, you feel like you've made zero impact on anything you just experienced. it's a hollow shell of a game.

[–]mcguire 98ポイント99ポイント  (12子コメント)

There's a metaphor for life there somewhere.

[–]P1smo 43ポイント44ポイント  (7子コメント)

An online reviewer described NMS as: "A mile wide and an inch deep."

It's the first game in a long time I genuinely regret buying.

[–]Ironmunger2 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Angry Joe described it as being as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle

[–]spacefox00 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

My friends made it sound so good the first 2 days it was out that I went and bought it. Then they got bored and I realized why on day 3.. it's just the same thing over and over again. As it is the game isn't worth more than 30 dollars.

[–]devianaut 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

do you remember the precise moment that sense of wonder and awe gave way to the fog of confusion and denial... and ultimately frustration and boredom? now I'm just kind of angry about it all.

[–]nihongojoe 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. When I turned 32.

[–]nikofeyn 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

it's a hollow shell of a game.

i honestly don't understand how people didn't realize this from the day it was announced. there has never been an answer to "yea, cool, but what do you actually do?"

[–]theblasphemer 25ポイント26ポイント  (33子コメント)

Maybe wait a year or two. Maybe all the stuff that was advertised and promised by the developers will be added. Maybe we will never see the game from the trailers. I'm starting to think we won't. They would basically have to rewrite the game. It's that shallow and repetitive. Taking what it is right now, its the worst 60 bucks I've ever spent on a game.

The PS4 game is at version 1.05 right now. All the patch notes say is 'bug fixes' and Hello Games hasn't addressed a single fan base's complaint about features that were severely misrepresented. It's ridiculous.

[–]Vendetta1990 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

As of right now there is absolutely no reason to buy the game it seems. They've been hyping the "ending" so much and that abomination was all we got?

[–]orionescens 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Off topic curiosity, is 255 the standard limit for things in video games? When i played NCAA it would only let me score 255, after that scores didnt count

[–]ciaisi 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

It really just depends on how the variable is stored. You can count up to 255 in binary using one byte of data (28).

[–]Luigimario280 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since computers use a binary number system, any value is represented by a certain number of 1s and 0s. An 8 digit value can be anywhere from 00000000 (0) to 11111111 (255).

[–]Curtisboy 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is 100% dead serious m8.

[–]The-Walking-Based 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Looks like the developers took a page out of Stephen King's book.

[–]NfamousCJ 96ポイント97ポイント  (34子コメント)

So you're saying by winning the game it basically just resets your game and you do it all again? No newgame+ or anything? Just literally a new game?

[–]iTzDaNizZ 120ポイント121ポイント  (28子コメント)

You just restart the game like you never played (crashed ship, basic tutorial, atlas quests etc.) exept you keep your inventory and ship (and i guess also reputations with alien races, words learned and craftable items) so yes, more of a Newgame+

[–]QuietLittleVoice 138ポイント139ポイント  (20子コメント)

wait wait wait, so you start the game again, but this time they have removed the incentive to find better stuff?

EDIT: which, by the way, is literally the only other thing to do in the game.

[–]caninehere 86ポイント87ポイント  (16子コメント)

The incentive to find better stuff is removed before you reach the center. Long before that, actually. Once you max out your inventory slots and find all the upgrades that's really all the game has to offer (except, of course, mind-numbingly boring planets that all look the same).

[–]buttaholic 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

except, of course, mind-numbingly boring planets that all look the same

weird. i assumed the lack of actual gameplay and content was because they were focusing on this procedurally generated stuff... i figured that part was supposed to be amazing and took tons of work, leaving the rest of the gameplay as sort of an afterthought.

it's pretty hilarious that they failed in both areas.

[–]caninehere 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just find it really funny that they pushed unlimited possibilities for the procedural generation, and then you have threads on here full of people posting screenshots of the exact same creatures on their planets.

Not only do most planets look the same with a different-colored-haze, but the plantlife on one planet will often be exactly the same as the plantlife on the last one you were on. There's little variation at all it seems.

[–]Turbo__Sloth 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

To me it feels like a Newgame- because you literally lose the one incentive to actually explore--expanding your inventory, upgrading your gear, learning the languages, etc.

[–]FormCore 26ポイント27ポイント  (18子コメント)

I thought part of the point of the "center of the universe" was that, slowly but surely the local population of other players would increase?

Like, I thought that most players would head towards the center and the center would be a social / economic hub that kind of spread outwards...

But if you get there you get popped out nowhere and you can't even interact with others...?

[–]Chubbstock 51ポイント52ポイント  (13子コメント)

Also there are no other players. It's literally a single player game. It just shares discovery data

[–]amildlyclevercomment 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

So a single player that allows you to once in a long while stumble upon already played game areas... woo :/

[–]QuietLittleVoice 84ポイント85ポイント  (24子コメント)

"so many worlds to explore" eventually translated to "so many worlds to aimlessly wander around in sheer brain dead boredom because, despite their being an entire galaxy of planets left to see, you have already come across copies and duplicates of every in game object and their only discerning trait is their colour"

I felt a twinge of disappointment when I left my green grassy starter planet and flew to the adjacent planet to find it was a blue grassy planet this time, "hm, maybe it's a system thing" I thought, so i eventually buggered off to my next system and was greeted by a purple grassy planet.

[–]KapiTod 83ポイント84ポイント  (17子コメント)

Gotta ask. Does every planet have generally typical terrain throughout?

Cause that is a sci-fi trope I absolutely despise.

Like okay. You've your Hoth's and your Tatooine's, little variation. Maybe the poles of Hoth would kill a Wampa in minutes, maybe the equator of Tatooine is a near impassable death zone where even breathing the air will scorch your lungs, who knows man?

But your Naboo's? Your Kashyyyks1 ? Why the fuck is beautifully temperate weather, geography, and plantlife so prevalent across the entirety of these worlds without a whiff of desert or ice caps?

We come from a planet with more climate and geography variety in one fucking country then these overpaid shite's can put into entire galaxies!

1 Three Y's, who knew?!

[–]a_sniper_is_a_person 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a page on tvtropes for that. Single biome planet or something.

[–]juandh 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yep, supposedly the way they spun it is that they want you to explore a bunch of planets instead of spending a lot of time on a few of them. So yes, planets are the same all over.

[–]Timboflex 164ポイント165ポイント  (11子コメント)

But there are end-game goals!

  • To be the very best
  • To catch them all

[–]treycartier91 57ポイント58ポイント  (6子コメント)

Thank you! Pokemon has always had an end game goal.

Though Niantic has made it tough. Originally you just needed to buy both Red and Blue version. Now you need to travel to a different country.

[–]rowanbladex 60ポイント61ポイント  (51子コメント)

The problem is, I've virtually full cleared the game in 50 hours, only things left are to either learn every word for all 3 languages (pointless grind) or reach the center of the galaxy (again pointless). Can't even break even for 60 hours

[–]leredditffuuu 49ポイント50ポイント  (22子コメント)

Oh man, remember back in the good ole days when we thought we were getting factions and all these cool interactions between different NPC groups. Play an Explorer, Mercenary, Trader, or do whatever you choose!

This is one of the damn near craziest grifts I can recall being pulled off.

[–]RainbowLovechild 44ポイント45ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did you catch the story on the three races? I am tracking down every plaque I can because even if the words are a grind I am riveted by the unfolding history of the war between the Gek, Vykeen, Sentinals, and Korvax.

[–]Juiceman17 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's pretty much the only thing keeping me going at this point. That and finding the motherfucking warp drive theta that has been eluding me for the past 20 hours.

[–]Hansenerator 4394ポイント4395ポイント  (889子コメント)

Difference being one is free, the other is $60.

EDIT: I'm aware Pokemon Go is Freemium, but you don't have to spend money on it to play it. That's the difference.

[–]Gustavo13 2105ポイント2106ポイント  (726子コメント)

very important distinction, one is being sold at AAA price

[–]rationalcomment 1734ポイント1735ポイント  (560子コメント)

Also Niantic didn't lie to it's gamers.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Hello Games purposefully misrepresented the game.

Looking at these old E3 trailers and everything Sean Murray has said is sad, it makes you realize just how much we were lied to and how little of what was promised is in the game.

This post gives a great summary of the large number of lies to hype up gamers directly from the developers, with sources from interviews and direct quotes

Not only that but we weren't really been given a proper universe, there are actually no stars and no solar systems that you can fly around. Instead we get 3 or 4 planets hanging immobile in the air a short distance from each other, not orbiting around a sun and there is no orbital day/night like was promised. You can't actually fly between these systems yourself, instead you have to "warp" from the galaxy map (which is simply a loading screen), and you end up feeling like you're simply going to different instances of 3-4 similar planets. Pulsars, neutron stars, supernovas...etc are completely absent. Hell you can't even actually truly fly the ship as so much is on autopilot, you don't land the ship yourself and you can't actually crash the ship. The big trees and giant animals and huge valleys and mountains are entirely absent, as almost all the planets look the same. The animals don't make any sense and are simply a random mix of body parts from animals we recognize here on earth, with only 14 skeletal structures. The monoliths are all the same, the identical outposts are on every single planet with the same copy pasted aliens giving the same copy pasted text and dispensing items, and every new star system has an identical space station. You're not even discovering anything as every single planet has these outposts every few hundred meters. There are no biomes, so every planet is the same everywhere no matter where you land. The caves are practically identical. The freaking freighters don't even move. We were promised a universe full of interesting creatures and things to discover, instead we got an broken shallow early access game with a bunch of placeholders copy pasted over and over instead of interesting content worth exploring. You can't even play it as a chill game because it crashes non-stop, the base grinding of the game is incredibly frustrating with a terrible UI and inventory management system and the prompts and notifications are constantly pestering you with things like "life support low" when its 75%.

The ending, where you reach the center of the galaxy and which was hyped as being something special, is just a big fuck you to all gamers. It's so incredibly terrible that you wonder if they're purposefully trying to insult your intelligence for wasting time on getting there through endless repetitive and dull grinding.

This game is everything that is wrong with gaming, the lies, the hype culture, the shallow gameplay, the grinding, the unfulfilling copy pasted content, the marketing of quantity over quality...and all of this supported by pre-orders.

[–]StochasticLife 670ポイント671ポイント  (106子コメント)

Just stop preordering.

We've been through this. I survived the Fable and Spore hype-trains. It's the same shit. Just stop.

When they 'earn' a preorder and don't deliver that's on you.

[–]hunky 107ポイント108ポイント  (37子コメント)

Yep. DayZ was the one to get me to finally control my impulse game buying purchases. No more will I order games that are un-finished "alpha" versions.

Was and am still pissed off at that this game robbed so many people of their money. Yet this business model will keep working because most fall for hype vids and advertising (myself included) at least a few times and Reddit is the perfect venue to advertise games to geeks like us.

[–]creepyeyes 92ポイント93ポイント  (16子コメント)

No more will I order games that are un-finished "alpha" versions.

That wouldn't have stopped you from getting No Man's Sky, it was sold as a finished product. At least Day Z warns you its not done

[–]tundra8 56ポイント57ポイント  (11子コメント)

Any game that doesn't release review copies well in advance is hot garbage. That is always the telling thing.

[–]Zahir_SMASH 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

There are always exceptions to the rule. Doom (2016) was great, but was not given to many reviewers, if any, in advance.

[–]HerpinMaDerp 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. There will be exceptions to that 'rule'. So either way just wait for real thorough reviews before buying.

[–]jidfintraining 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

I liked Spore

[–]sel3ctsoup 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

me too bro. It was somewhat grindy, but I think it did a really good job.

[–]Drasern 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, the phases where you controlled a single creature were really good. Had some flaws, but they were solid stages. Fucking everything after small tribe was trash, and the end game was so boring.

[–]SzaboZicon 50ポイント51ポイント  (10子コメント)

I love how there are people trying to rationalize pre-ordering. Claiming its not the problem. Maybe they have actually not been through it before... People are paying for a game that they really don't know much about (except for advertising and promoting, which is basically just propaganda, we all should know) And they try to pass the blame off on someone else.

Yikes... Peeps in denial.

Never pre-order. This is like 2010 wisdom. its 2016

[–]RVA_GOP 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Better than that, don't live and die by some new game release. Stop treating game devs like the dad that never showed up to your birthday.

[–]OSouup 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought fable was excellent.

[–]tanajerner 182ポイント183ポイント  (118子コメント)

Anyone that pre-orders a game gets what they deserve, people have been told over and over again not to do it, yey they keep doing it.

[–]cheesemonk66 170ポイント171ポイント  (18子コメント)

South park said it best

“When you pre-order a game, you’re just committing to paying for something that some assholes in California haven’t even finished working on yet.” - “You know what you get for pre-ordering a game? A big dick in your mouth.”

[–]Zandrick 104ポイント105ポイント  (42子コメント)

I'm getting kind of tired of all the people who preordered the game complaining about how bad it is...this is why you NEVER PRE-ORDER.

[–]machetekillz1104 23ポイント24ポイント  (21子コメント)

Maybe people didn't necessarily pre-order but purchased the game sometime in the first week? Not everybody reads reddit or other forums to find out if they have been lied to. I'm sure you know this.

[–]I_Envy_Sisyphus 24ポイント25ポイント  (10子コメント)

I really don't see how that's any better than pre-ordering. You're making a purchase without researching the item you want to buy? That's just a bad decision.

[–]rannie_pophe 73ポイント74ポイント  (142子コメント)

That it is why you should not expect too much lest you become disappointed.

[–]The_Naked_Snake 96ポイント97ポイント  (103子コメント)

Expect the world, you only leave yourself room to be disappointed.

Expect garbage, and you can only be pleasantly surprised.

[–]hahamu 64ポイント65ポイント  (86子コメント)

It's true, I did not believe that NMS could deliver what it promised, and now i'm pleased that I did not join the hype and that I now know I will never have to play that empty shell of a game.

[–]Papajon87 46ポイント47ポイント  (72子コメント)

I didn't get the game and seeing all the complaints, I still want to play.

[–]Fuu-nyon 46ポイント47ポイント  (40子コメント)

Yep, it looks really pretty and it seems like something I could have fun with, just not $60 or maybe even $30 worth of fun. So, I shall continue to be patient. Hopefully with all the backlash the price will drop more quickly than most games.

[–]JimmyRUDEjam 29ポイント30ポイント  (23子コメント)

I'd definitely pay $15 to try it out but $60 seems like a waste of money.

[–]juuj 42ポイント43ポイント  (11子コメント)

Kind of depends on who you are. Having been in the original Minecraft Alpha, playing around in a world with a few monsters, water, dirt, and sand, procedurally generated, this feels very similar to me. They could add building--real building--like Minecraft had as well. You can destroy just about any terrain with grenades permanently, so it wouldn't be a leap to let us put some of that stuff back in new positions. This is a living game, and it sucks that they released it while it was (let's be honest) very alpha-ish. But it still has the best base on which to build, of any space game out there.

You can fix No Man's Sky by adding all the features people want. You can't go back and make the other game universes into amazing, diverse, expansive ones like No Man's Sky has. This game is missing content, but has the perfect canvas on which to paint new objectives, lore, and interactions. It needs about 1 year of serious development at Hello Games, and someone listening to the community, but they could definitely "fix" this by adding a few things:

  1. Real multiplayer w/friend finding and coms

  2. Base building (already confirmed to be incoming)

  3. Expand the ending(s), give it some meaning or at least a reward to progress through galaxies

  4. Land restructuring: Terrain can be destroyed, why not let us rearrange it too? Let us put pieces back in new positions. We could make cities and underground bases!

  5. Add more NPCs to make outposts, bars, space stations, and trading posts feel more lively

  6. External storage. Minecraft had chests, which I think is something No Man's Sky could benefit from as well.

  7. Portals: Let them be an instant transit to and from a home base, in additional to their current function of time travel, so we can really settle in somewhere and go back and forth easily while exploring (to hoard resources in chests, and add more to our cities).

  8. Sentient races overhaul. It's ridiculous that infinite galaxies are ruled by 3 sentient races. These should be procedural as well (but keep the Trader/Warrior/Scientist motif, that's fine).

  9. Space stations and other buildings and structures: Need a serious renovation. It's like the entire universe is full of buildings and stations made by one person. Even Anomalies and Atlas interfaces look the same inside. That makes no sense. I suggest randomizing the interior similar to the surface of planets, and claiming it's "home biome recreation" for the aliens running each place. Fake sky, rocky walls, a few potted plants, ect.

  10. An enemy. A core, singular enemy. Not just obscure space pirates and sentinels and The Atlas. A real, expressly malicious entity, trying to stop explorers from exploring, with a real motivation. We need a punching bag and a way to keep score against it. Some bases that need to be retaken on each planet for the good guys. Some real objective that makes you feel like you "completed" a system by saving it from the baddies.

[–]ObsidianMinor 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

External storage. Minecraft had chests, which I think is something No Man's Sky could benefit from as well.

Please, I don't care if I need to visit a space station, I need storage!

[–]Mindless_Consumer 16ポイント17ポイント  (17子コメント)

It is actually real fun for about 3 or 4 hours. Then the learning curve is gone, there is no more mystery and it becomes a game of how long you are willing to grind. 11 hours for me.

[–]thebensupremacy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

10 hours of endearment for me and I'll probably never play it again.

[–]hotterthanahandjob 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been playing non stop since release. 500 warps later, I reached the center of the galaxy today. I found myself on a planet in a new galaxy that looks like an old planet from the old galaxy, but with a broken ship. So ya, I'm done.

[–]Waterknight94 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seeing the complaints I am seeing what basically amounts to spore space stage without having to maintain your empire. That was the reason I quit playing spore. So yeah sounds pretty awesome to me.

[–]Fliff42 179ポイント180ポイント  (7子コメント)

Exactly, I've spent $0 on Pokemon GO and had a lot of fun walking around parks, fighting gyms with friends, etc.

[–]Amasero 65ポイント66ポイント  (31子コメント)

Did you see what you get from reaching the Center of the Uni?

One of the biggest fuck you's I have ever seen.

[–]rockyhoward 33ポイント34ポイント  (19子コメント)

Spoil me please, it's the only thing that has kept me playing and I don't wanna invest hours for nothing.

[–]WizardChrist 72ポイント73ポイント  (9子コメント)

When you reach the galactic center.........

You start over. Everything is wiped and you are starting a new game. You never actually reach the center. You try to warp to it and the game backs ALLLLLLLLLLLL the way out of the galaxy and you start over in a new one.

[–]EyeH8uxinfiniteplus1 30ポイント31ポイント  (5子コメント)

Everything is wiped? Like... All your planets, and region names and discoveries, or just like, the upgrades you have from that point on?

[–]xnd714 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

I watched someone's youtube footage when they got to the center of the universe and all their upgrades were still there, but they were broken and in need of repair (just like your ship at the beginning of the game).

That's such a blatant slap in the face I actually laughed.

Footage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzoCavC0WA

[–]RGB3x3 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Holy shit. After all that damn work, you have to repair EVERYTHING. I've been playing the game for a long time and get so frustrated when I have to repair stuff every time I go through a black hole because it's such a chore. To have to repair everything after making so many upgrades would be an excellent way to get me to quit. I'm fact, this video has made me want to quit.

[–]C3D2 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just your inventory and ship. it puts you in a new galaxy as if you restarted your game, but now with less of a chance to run into other players discoveries.

[–]ellimist 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you serious? Hasn't that been overdone by now?

[–]Amasero 19ポイント20ポイント  (8子コメント)

SPOILER WARNING, ENDING if you click link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzoCavC0WA

edit: Fixed...

edit: Spoiler format is not working for me, it's either i'm retarded or the format does not work.

[–]htbgrvfec 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow that's really god damn heartbreaking.
Not even a fucking "Congratulations!".

[–]gnetisis 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

After ALL that grinding?
"Game Over, You Win!" in flashing comic sans and a cold dump to the OS would have been preferable.
Seriously though, ignoring all other issues with the game, how insulting and infuriating. I started on joysticks and that's just bad form for this kind of game.

[–]Mande1baum 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It didn't show it in that video, but at the last Atlas station or whatever before you make that jump, it plays random clips from your "journey" like a really bad flashback episode from a sitcom. Yea. It's so pretentious it tries to make all the random boring crap you did seem like it validates the "it's not the destination, it's the journey" BS.

[–]Planetariophage 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Goddam even the SNES Jurassic park that I played a long time ago with an ending that was basically the shitty start cinematic but reversed was better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTao08upXok

And despite that ending the game was awesome. Unlike NMS...

[–]GerkIIDX 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, at least that was...kinda pretty, I guess?

[–]10thplanetwestLA 63ポイント64ポイント  (12子コメント)

I know of two people (my good friend and my mom) who will play tons of F2P (free to play games) on their phones, but are extremely stingy and will never pay a single dime for a game. Interestingly enough, they have both spent over $100 each on Pokemon GO so far and they have no ragrets. Go figure.

[–]Carbon_Dirt 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm guilty of this too. If I'm out and about, "Eh, $1.50 for a water isn't too bad a deal."

When I'm at home, "Psh, 99 cents for the ad-free version of this app that I use all the time? Forget it!"

[–]Tramd 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hard to find worth on intangible things. In app purchases and games in general I can't find any value in so I don't buy them. At the same time though, I would pay to go out somewhere and play those games or watch a movie.

[–]Mike9797 119ポイント120ポイント  (37子コメント)

60 lol up here in Canada it's 91 dollars after taxes.

[–]cfunkrun 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

For PS4 maybe... Was around 65 iirc on Steam after tax.

[–]attemptno8 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm seeing 66.49 before tax. Still not even close to 91 even in the highest tax provinces, though.

[–]smasters908 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Weird, the price i see on steam is the price i pay...

[–]attemptno8 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't pay tax on steam purchases either but I mentioned "before tax" because the guy I was replying to apparently does(or maybe doesn't know that he doesn't).

[–]Potatoque 382ポイント383ポイント  (27子コメント)

Pokemon go has simultaneous multiplayer!

I was taking over a gym once when another red came along (Valor FTW) and we both simultaneously battled, I could see their vapereon fighting with me in the background!

[–]blindsniperx 209ポイント210ポイント  (12子コメント)

No Simultaneous Multiplayer

I cringed at that part because at least Pokemon Go does have that feature. And if it didn't, you could still argue the social aspect of it makes it an mmirl (massively multiplayer in real life) game.

[–]chookalook 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, I couldn't give an upvote to this picture because of that.

[–]Barteringram 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

massively multiplayer in real life

Would it not be MMAR; Massively Multiplayer Augmented Reality?

[–]wd40bomber7 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, me my fiancée play Pokemon Go on the same team and we can take down almost any gym by fighting together! Its a really cool feature.

[–]JonnyHardmember 401ポイント402ポイント  (73子コメント)

Has Murray responded to being called a liar and all the terrible reviews? Just asked this question somewhere else, thought I'd ask here too. Super curious as to what he has to say in response.

[–]B-Knight 89ポイント90ポイント  (12子コメント)

Have a look at his Twitter and you tell me.

The best he could've done was simmer down and shut up on his Twitter but instead he's constantly talking about how amazing the game is and how "there's so many people playing!" and "wow, this new patch is going to fix those problems that only 1% of people had".

[–]One-Two-Woop-Woop 201ポイント202ポイント  (17子コメント)

He has already said "WOW! So great seeing so many people eating up my lies- I mean playing the game! This is amazing! Taking this shit to the mother fucking bank!"

[–]BlazeDrag 1154ポイント1155ポイント  (82子コメント)

See the problem is that there's no pokemon in it. If you replaced all of the random wildlife with pokemon then this game would be heralded as the best game ever.

I wish I was joking.

[–]marine72 498ポイント499ポイント  (63子コメント)

I mean... What the fuck else was pokemon snap?

[–]theonewhoknack 451ポイント452ポイント  (27子コメント)

The best n64 tech demo ever and the game the wiiu needs. EDIT: seriously the game was pretty impressive with its animation/how many pokemon are on screen for a cartridge game.

[–]Vandechoz 153ポイント154ポイント  (15子コメント)

can't wait for VR pokemon snap

it's perfect because you don't even have to move, just turn in circles

[–]barfchan 91ポイント92ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow it's like you know exactly what I want before I do

[–]650fosho 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

I just want Pokemon the game in full, open world 3d. I want a hybrid Zelda/Pokemon where the Pokemon are your weapons you find and help you solve puzzles.

[–]cartoxxulan 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Somehow I feel like Nintendo is missing out on an opportunity for a quick and successful side title on this. Pokken did pretty well, and Tekken doesn't have nearly Zelda popularity.

[–]clovermite 137ポイント138ポイント  (12子コメント)

A first person rail shooter that utilized a non-violent game mechanic. Personally, I thought it was kinda innovative for that reason. It's rare to see non-violent games, that are more than abstract puzzles, which surpass a "watch patch dry" level of boring.

[–]Naf5000 40ポイント41ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't know if you can call it non-violent. One of the core game mechanics is throwing gas bombs at pokemon to make them do interesting things.

[–]_MechE 38ポイント39ポイント  (9子コメント)

Gas bombs? Compared to using monsters with insane powers/abilities to make them faint or make them your slaves.

[–]GlyphGryph 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

A good game with well implemented, tightly designed mechanics, a competent basic gameplay loop, and an interesting and innovative idea using an established and well loved brand for additional emotional satisfaction

[–]PLLOOOOOP 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

Pokemon snap was marketed honestly.

[–]spoonbeak 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

I remember buying Pokemon Snap with all the money I saved up as a kid and sitting there extremely disappointed after me and my friends pretty much beat it in one night.

[–]spacefox00 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

You guys were too hardcore. It took me about 2 weeks I think, but I was 6 years old at the time. Havent played it since then actually but it's crazy how I still remember playing it.

[–]Gyshall669 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was really one of the only times we got to see Pokemon in a dynamic environment. Every encounter was so memorable.

[–]Terkala 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is actually a whole subgenre of camera based games. Some of them pre date pokemon snap. I remember playing one where youre a time traveling photographer for dinosaurs. Pretty similar gameplay to pokemon snap, but more static locations.

[–]DailyisPRO 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Switch out Pokemon for Star Wars and it would be the greatest game for its time. Travel through space taking planets under control for the Jedi, Sith, etc.. Discover new creatures, gather resources to upgrade your weapon (blaster, lightsaber, and so on). I would spend countless hours being the best Han Solo smuggling throughout the Universe.

[–]attemptno8 134ポイント135ポイント  (27子コメント)

This is why I barely pay attention to video game news, don't watch E3 and NEVER preorder(which includes wasting money on early access games). I knew the general idea of what NMS was supposed to be, and I was interested, but I was never overhyped or really waiting for the game to come out. As a result, I am not disappointed in the least.

I learned this lesson during the PS2 era when I'd read video game news every day and could barely wait for my most anticipated games to come out.

[–]RoyalN5 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

Same. If I really do like a game I'll wait until it releases and watch gameplay videos on YouTube before purchasing

I learned my lesson with Resident Evil 5. I fucking waited for so long for that game.

[–]Amiran3851 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't understand people who hate RE5. Like its not as good as 4 but it's still a great game.

[–]blacksheepcannibal 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

NEVER preorder

I have no problem getting in on early access games that are already in a playable state. I do not regret getting on-board with KSP at all. DST was in "early access" when I got it.

But I definitely vet the shit out of games that I'm even considering getting onboard with in early access.

[–]Phantompain23 87ポイント88ポイント  (3子コメント)

The youtube video with jurassic park music behind it showing one shitty looking dino creature gets me everytime EDIT-https://m.youtube.com/results?q=no%20mans%20sky%20jurassic%20park&sm=3

[–]moonshinemicky 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't control my laughter every time I see this. It is so perfect.

[–]jeffydomer 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pokemon go is free. I went hiking today and caught 7 Sythers. A month later and I'm still having fun.

[–]FalseFun29 191ポイント192ポイント  (26子コメント)

It's cool to see two completely different games have so much in common. Very interesting :D

[–]PLLOOOOOP 73ポイント74ポイント  (18子コメント)

Honest question time. Was pokemon go hyped for ages like NMS? For me, pokemon go came out of nowhere. But I might've just been under a rock. Seems like everyone knew about NMS, though.


EDIT: know --> knew

[–]Deskanar 82ポイント83ポイント  (13子コメント)

Go was hyped, but without any specifics or promises. All they told us was that it was going to be a GPS-based game featuring Pokemon. Since it strongly mimics its predecessor, Ingress, the way the game worked wasn't particularly surprising.

Because Go didn't make any promises ahead of time, its caught less flack in terms of features and mechanics. On the other hand, its had a fair number of technical difficulties (due to its overwhelming popularity). Niantic does seem to be addressing those issues in a timely manner, so there's hope for the future there.

[–]Falsus 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pokemon GO was super hyped but the only thing we knew was ''mobile GPS game in the style of Ingress featuring Pokemon''.

[–]TheFlashFrame 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I first heard about GO years ago. Its been in development for a long time.

[–]Applejuiceinthehall 129ポイント130ポイント  (160子コメント)

Should open world games have end goals?

[–]eeyore134 303ポイント304ポイント  (72子コメント)

They need a progression arc at the very least that is rewarding and fulfilling. You should be seeing yourself advance. NMS is a perfect example of that not being done well. All the upgrades are boring and the only real advancements are cosmetic or inventory space. It's an endless loop. Mine to get stuff to make money and keep fueled up to make meaningless upgrades and get more inventory to get to the next planet and mine more stuff to do it all over again.

Minecraft, in comparison, has you starting out with very basic things. You use those things to make better things which allows you access to more complex things. You're constantly moving forward. If we were taking an NMS approach with Minecraft you would just create more tools to mine the things you could already mine to begin with and maybe expand your inventory a little more. There's just nothing fulfilling, nothing to strive for.

Open world games don't necessarily need end goals, but they need goals within them or there's just no point. They tend to get repetitive otherwise.

[–]crazed3raser 87ポイント88ポイント  (29子コメント)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And not to mention Minecraft lets you build your own world. You can make a house, or a castle, or a complex cave structure or whatever. You can customize the map to your liking. The only limit to the possibilities are your imagination, and of course the amount of materials there are (which is a lot)

[–]eeyore134 44ポイント45ポイント  (26子コメント)

Not to mention all the mods, which Sean Murray has come out against several times. NMS could be amazing if they opened it up to the Steam Workshop.

[–]UtherArgas 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah it seems like the perfect kind of game for modding, heck if there was mod support I might buy it if some cool mods came out

[–]PM_steam-wallet_code 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

There are mods however it is early on so we don't know the true potential but there is a script extender out/being worked on.

[–]SnoopDogTheDank 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

He has? I mean, he didn't seem overjoyed about mods, but I remember him mentioning that they might add a tool to make mods. Essentially, it seems like he's fine with it, but that he'd probably want them to use a tool so they don't fuck up the procedural stuff.

[–]QuietLittleVoice 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

also minecraft has the ender dragon as it's 'end game', which is very difficult/impossible to do with base items, so you need to craft better equipment to take it on and its rewarding to do so, you see your efforts pay off and feel like you have progressed.

NMS just gives you upgrades so you can farm materials on planets that are increasingly further away from your starter planet, and the end is extremely unsatisfying.

[–]Fliff42 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

99% of the fun of my first Minecraft survival world was building a 7 story house complete with storage room, library to power my tome, a Nether portal, a sky rail to the nearest town, a fucking yooj mining complex of 5 floors with a railway connecting each level. So much fun. And when I got bored I went exploring with a new map in hand.

[–]bluexbirdiv 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you mean, should the game itself give you explicit goals, then that's a perfectly open question. But an open world/sandbox game needs to at least have enough depth to let players develop their own goals. Players shouldn't be finding themselves wondering why they're catching pokemon in a game about catching pokemon. They shouldn't be wondering why they're exploring planets in a game about exploring planets. Those mechanics themselves either need to be immensely satisfying, or they need to be a clear means to some end.

[–]turk777 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Gotta catch em all

[–]Sootraggins 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

At the center of the Galaxy.

[–]Waaailmer 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

And once you catch them all in the center of the galaxy.....let's find a new universe with a new 151 to catch at the center of the galaxy

[–]OnnaJReverT 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

2nd gen Pokemon exclusive to those who fill the Pokedex confirmed?

[–]TheFlashFrame 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

They don't need end-goals. Just, goals. Minecraft has an ending now, but for years it didn't. But it was still addictive as shit because it had goals. Find shelter, make a house, get diamond tools and armor, enchant those tools, go to the nether, explore the temples/nether castle thing/abandoned mineshafts... No Man's Sky has... refuel your life support and ship! Warp! Rinse and repeat!

Every game absolutely needs goals or it will be insanely boring. Like sitting in a sand pit without and tools to play with. What do you do? Throw sand up and watch it falls a couple times and then climb out. You need motivation to do something, you need something to achieve. Achievement is a basic game mechanic that is present in any moderately fun game. And frequent achievement is present in most really fun games. Think about the "ch-CHING" of earning XP in Fallout, or the flash of light when you ding in WoW. Those are tiny things that make us feel awesome.

EDIT: just read further down and saw that someone else made the exact same point about Minecraft.

[–]fourpuns 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

I agree that's the point of the game. It's just an exploring game. That said I wish I could colonize planets sim city style. They should buy sim city 2000 and just patch it in.

[–]PLLOOOOOP 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

just patch it in.

As a software dev, this gave me anxiety.

[–]fourpuns 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

the planets already probably got a grid overlay. Just remove all the stuff it currently does and replace it with sim city. It should take a week. Also make sure it's done on time because I'm going to tweet the new feature.

[–]jado1stk 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

Pokemon Go has simultaneous multiplayer, for Gym battles.

End-game goals? Just like Guilds Wars 2, you make your own end-game goals.

Also, is a free game. No Man's Sky is 60$

[–]SonidoX 42ポイント43ポイント  (24子コメント)

Honestly guys, as an IT guy, Niantic gets way too much shit. Yes they mess up, but for 11-50 employees, they're going their absolute best. It's easy to bitch but fucking changing and updating thousands of lines of code isn't the quickest process. I still enjoy the game and I am excited for the future. #GoInstinct