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False comparisons by Illuminati: Jesus second coming is Now: Matthew v Chronicles (self.conspiracy)

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False comparisons by Illuminati: Second coming of Jesus is NOW: Matthew 4:8-9 vs Chronicles 36:23

An agent of the satanic illuminati writes:

If Satan was the guy who offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world then who was the guy who gave Israel their kingdom?

Compare:

Matthew 4:8-9 "Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; 9and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me."

In the old testament it is "the lord" who gave king Cyrus all the kingdoms of the earth.

2 Chronicles 36:23 "This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: "'The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah. Any of his people among you may go up, and may the LORD their God be with them.'"

Last Prophet replies:

Now for the REAL comparison: it's Matthew 4:8-9 and NOW. Start with the context:

Matthew 3:3

John the Baptist Prepares the Way

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,

‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.’”

The devil in control of "all the kingdoms of the world":

It happened before the first coming of Jesus.

After Armenia became the first christian kingdom in the world, it would happen again only before the second coming, NOW.

Notes

Cyrus the Great created the largest empire the world had yet seen. His regal titles in full were The Great King, ... and King of the Four Corners of the World.

Cyrus the Great respected the customs and religions of the lands he conquered. It is said that in universal history, the role of the Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus lies in its very successful model for centralized administration and establishing a government working to the advantage and profit of its subjects.

What is sometimes referred to as the Edict of Restoration (actually two edicts) described in the Bible as being made by Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion, where, because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the Jewish Bible as Messiah (lit. "His anointed one") (Isaiah 45:1), [14] and is the only non-Jew to be called so.

... his famous proclamation inscribed onto Cyrus Cylinder as the oldest known declaration of human rights...

The Babylonians regarded him as "The Liberator".

The Book of Ezra narrates a story of the first return of exiles in the first year of Cyrus, in which Cyrus boastfully proclaims:

"All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD, the God of heaven, given me; and He hath charged me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah." (Ezra 1:2).

This edict is also fully reproduced in the Book of Ezra.

The Jews honored him as a dignified and righteous king.

... in Isaiah, God is described as saying, "I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness: I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild my city and set my exiles free, but not for a price or reward, says G-d Almighty." (Isaiah 45:13) As the text suggests, Cyrus did ultimately release the nation of Israel from its exile without compensation or tribute. Traditionally, the entire book of Isaiah is believed to pre-date the rule of Cyrus by about 120 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great

BASICS

For the armenian genocide start here:

the first genocide of End Times was carried out not only in broad daylight but actually the only one also in the spotlight.

http://end-times-history.blogspot.com/2004/11/first-genocide-only-one-in-spotlight.html

All part of the same gang of illuminazi puppets executing orders from one and the same:

  • 28 governors of EU states who are still called prime-ministers or presidents, BushClinton since 1988 including Hitlery since 2008 ("Hussein Obama" will now be stripped);

  • BRICS (fake Putin, China, India, South Africa), "enemies" from Iran's Ayatollahs to Cuba and North Korea and the ISIS caliphate alias the Raqqa mini-state; fake sunnis of Turkey, Saudi and Egypt gov.

http://who-are-the-illuminati.blogspot.com/2013/05/puppet-governments-typology-russia-usa.html

For Israel 1948 start with Syria, the most important front in the battle of Armageddon:

"Gog/Magog" script for the destruction of Israel changed by syrian freedom fighters

http://anti-bible.blogspot.com/2013/09/syria-gog-magog-script-changed-by-rebels.html

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[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is because at the time of his first coming, the Hebrews were already disobeying the commandments of the lord until finally they would go into slavery.

You have to remember, Satan is not real, it means adversary. If someone is stopping you from doing what you are supposed to do, they are Satan. Also used for someone who thinks only of the flesh and not of the spirit, one nation that did this a lot was Edom.

In this sense it becomes clear that Satan meant that Jesus was speaking of whom ever offering him the world (wants of the flesh) was not of his own kind nor followed God in spirit.

This definition of Satan is clear when we see that Jesus refers to Peter as Satan because he doesn't want Jesus to go and be killed, which was the main reason his coming was foretold.

Cyrus on the other hand was blessed by GOD to rule because the Israelite's did not need to rule in this manner as God would protect them anyways. Therefore the shared humbleness between Cyrus and the Hebrews were a strong synergy.

[–]TheFreeMarketeer2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The majority of these comments are derailing the topic that OP put forth. You "science" worshipers are no better than religion worshipers.

You're all missing important substantial points and don't realize it. Science followers that have little more than surface knowledge about any science use it as a catch all argument. Just. Like. The. Early. Church.

Science followers believe their authorities and take their word on conclusions the followers themselves have not independently verified. Just. Like. The. Early. Church.

Science followers don't seem to understand that science is a descriptive term of a method of understanding their environment. Religion followers don't seem to understand the texts they venerate are up to interpretation on an individual level.

Science followers and religion followers alike don't seem to grasp the significance of multiple texts from multiple cultures being so similar.

The great Gatsby won't be discussed thousands of years from now, Tolkien, Voltaire, George R.R. Martin or Dan Brown won't have fervent zealots interpreting their words and persecuting others who's views differ from theirs thousands of years from now.

Ffs. Neither side realizes they could work together to figure out what exactly these religions have hidden in plane sight.

Apply scientific method to research religious claims without starting with a conclusion. Quit being so easily manipulated by parasitic humans who negatively affect the entire world.

Seriously, you guys look like fools.

[–]PRO_NWOdontkillmebro -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wanna smoke weed, play video games and go camping every once and a while. Fuck all this bullshit. Fairy tales have no place in my mind and that's exactly what all the religious nonsense is. Fairy tales. Population control. Keep people thinking they know all the answers that way they never question the truth. Religion is for weak minded folks. Science is for the strong minded.

[–]whyd_you_kill_doakes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (32子コメント)

Can you prove to me God is real and that the bible is truth? Do you have evidence of any kind? Try not to use the bible to prove either since that would be circular reasoning and all. Damn logical fallacies

[–]Kyoon_[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (31子コメント)

I can prove that God exists. But I will prove first this: the entity controlling US and EU politics has by all means tried to make you believe that God doesn't exist: see

Protestantism, Mormons, Evolution, Jehovah witnesses, Scientology: organizations created by the illuminati

[–]whyd_you_kill_doakes -3ポイント-2ポイント  (30子コメント)

No, my own thought process led me to that belief. I used to be Christian, Baptist actually. If you were to take the time to actually read the whole bible and try to apply it to find answers to the natural world, you would fail. The only reason you're typing a reply is because of science, which tends to contradict the bible. The reason you can go to school or work in your vehicle is because of science, not God. The reason you have clothes is because of science. Your entire world is possible because of the scientific method. Why? It works. It gives results. Prayer does not, just ask the next amputee victim you see.

I ask again, can you prove God exists?

Edit: it's mind blowing that you think evolution is an organization

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 1ポイント2ポイント  (29子コメント)

In what ways does science contradict the Bible?

[–]whyd_you_kill_doakes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (28子コメント)

The scientific method has led to discoveries that prove the earth is much more than 6000 years old, both geologic and astronomical. It proves it's impossible to walk on water with surface tension and buoyancy forces. It's proven that the Ark was impossible as no wooden ship can withstand it's own weight the length and size, even while empty, in the water. Much more of an impossibility when you take 20,000 creatures and put them on that ship. Geologic evidence also disproves the flood as fossils aren't found in stratigraphic layers they aren't supposed to be in.

That's just a few.

The scientific method works because literally anyone can use it. It's all about how honest you are with it and how much effort you put into it. You don't need institutions/schools to use the scientific method. Just be willing to learn more as you go, because to understand astronomy you will need some physics and calculus. Each topic requires you to have some sort of prior knowledge. The interesting thing is that all of that knowledge that was built prior was built using the scientific method. If you don't believe me, if you're willing to put enough time and energy, you could invent calculus right now using reasoning and deduction and some mathematical skills.

If I'm being honest, I don't believe that there is a 0% chance there is no God. But if there is, it's not the Christian God. And there is and never has been actual evidence that proves God is a possibility. All I ask for is proof.

Been having trouble finding it, but there's a verse that even says that if doubters ask for evidence, give it to them. I've never gotten that evidence.

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 1ポイント2ポイント  (27子コメント)

What color were the Egyptians?

[–]whyd_you_kill_doakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (22子コメント)

Ok, just ignore every way that I just answered your question.

I'll answer this one, though. Then I would appreciate it if you could address the issues I brought up.

Given that the location of Egypt was still in the same lattitude as the time the bible makes its claims, I will assume that Egyptians were a mix of dark to light brown people, depending on the origins of its peoples. A quick wiki search shows that the topic is still highly debated to this day. Was there a point to that question?

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

From your own Wiki Search

The question of the race of ancient Egyptians was raised historically as a product of the scientific racism.

Moving on,

Zondervan’s Compact Bible Dictionary:

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.

What becomes apparent is that you have put all of your trust in science while none in God. Yet science itself has shown it's own flaws and yet you still blindly follow it. Ask yourself why is that.

[–]whyd_you_kill_doakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (20子コメント)

Before I answer your question, can you answer mine and address my points? I've answered twice and have not received answers back from you. I'm getting the feeling you're ignoring what I've said.

I will respond to your comment accordingly, but it would be really nice if you could address what I've said. It'd be a little dishonest if you didn't

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (19子コメント)

I have not answered your questions because they are concerned only with the flesh. You believe everything that someone tells you when it has doctor attached behind it but cannot see that the Lord makes it possible. A man with no spiritual knowledge is not a man at all.

Ecclesiasticus 13:23

“When a rich man speaketh, every man holdeth his tongue, and, look, what he saith, they extol it to the clouds: but if the poor man speak, they say, What fellow is this? and if he stumble, they will help to overthrow him.”

[–]TheFreeMarketeer2 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The general population were shades of brown. The rulers had red hair and fair skin...

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which Egyptian ruler are you referring to?

[–]TheFreeMarketeer2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tut and his line. Hyksos. Not the early Nubians.

[–]FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm trying to find a picture or something that says he was not a Hamite, all I keep getting is he was black except for a few places like France/Egypt saying he might have been lighter.