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How to improve the atmosphere at OT? (self.reddevils)

alee1994 が 投稿

Jose has been very vocal about improving the atmosphere at OT in his last couple of interviews and has asked the fans to help him make OT a fortress again.

We can argue that our atmosphere is very good as compared to other top clubs in the league but for the past 3 years other than Stretty, the voice has died down.

The prices of the tickets haven't helped too. The introduction of J-stand was to help build the voice again but there hasn't been much of an improvement.

So the reason of my post is to help chip in suggestions as to how we can improve the dying atmosphere at Old Trafford?

Are there any fans representatives for the club in this sub who we can pass on the suggestions to?

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[–]jammy_bThe Ginger Prince 16ポイント17ポイント  (8子コメント)

Realistically?

You can't. Tourists are such a huge part of the OT attendance these days that you can't simulate the atmosphere that you get in away sections or cup knockout crowds.

That comes as part of being one of the biggest clubs in the world I'm afraid.

[–]alee1994[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Not everyone is a tourist. We have 75000 inside the ground if we somehow get 10000 to sing simultaneously the atmosphere will change drastically. That 'somehow' is what we have to find.

[–]jammy_bThe Ginger Prince 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I respectfully disagree, many times I've been almost completely surrounded by tourists or day trippers who don't know the chants.

It's also difficult to join in with chants from other areas of the stadium because they're so far away it's all out of time.

[–]alee1994[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I understand. The whole point of my post is to how can we make the most, if not whole, crowd sing one thing rather than everybody singing different

[–]EmptysighsandwineRachel Riley 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was that in the North Stand? Last game I went to in that stand it was awkwardly silent. I even had a guy tell me not to stand up when we came close because he couldn't see, I was gobsmacked.

[–]EnixXIIIPark Ji-Sung 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry I disagree, Everytime I go I am SURROUNDED by tourists and day trippers, there is tons and its because of our clubs global commercial ground. Its not a bad thing but I have been laughed at by a few Spanish and Asian tourists for chanting.

[–]arron77 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Create a dedicated 'singing' section, required to have had a season ticket for 3+ years already.

Dedicate SAF Stand T3 to member tickets only.

[–]w1h2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's already a singing section

[–]Pint_Of_BitterIrwin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not forgetting the North Stand is effectively the Family Stand, you tend to get a lot of families and older ST holders.

Biggest stand in the ground but you won't find many parents shouting "my old man said be a City fan, and I said Bollocks you're a cnut" in front of their 8yr old.

[–]odonnelldale 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Other than the Stretford End? You must be joking. Nothing like it was and it's not even a worthwhile experience anymore. Introduce safe standing and the atmosphere will improve.

Also - the good fans going for decades being priced out since the takeover has not helped the cause but United don't give a fuck.

[–]OTownTrillaFoRilla 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am a tourist that knows and will singing the chants on Oct 2 vs Stoke from section STH121. My girlfriend will also be singing the chants. She has been learning them over the last 2 months.

[–]alee1994[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Up the reds! And hope you have a good visit.

[–]shaikhbilalmoin 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think its little bit with culture too, Germans and Turkish people i have seen enjoying and celebrating massively for each goals, atmosphere at dortmund and bayern is great just like International, colourful and loud, and players also very expressive in their celebrations. Germans clubs away support in UCL also very louad and colorful. They always light up the FInals. We have some amazing electric atmospheres at OT over the history, like Ronny's rerturn SAF final game etc.

[–]Caesar3890 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but we should not need a special occasion to be loud. Also there are plenty of great atmosphere's in the UK mate, it's not a culture thing.

[–]shaikhbilalmoin 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

yeah, tbh our performance level was not that great hopefully this season the optimism is high so atmosphere will be better,we supported LVG too despite of all borredom, remember "Louis Van Gaal Army" hehehe

[–]Caesar3890 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah I hope your right. I like how you approach your comments too very mature. Look at what people are writing to me, people so butthurt and toxic only focusing on me mentioning Liverpool's atmosphere, we have a very spoiled bunch of stupid fans at times.

[–]shaikhbilalmoin -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah you are welcome, that's very stupid for us to treat our fellow reds like that, we have to take care of each other cz, We are United :)

[–]Caesar3890 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah our atmosphere will always be wrecked by people who would rather boo Rooney or talk shit rather than actually get behind the team

[–]kmc43 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What if I just don't want to sing and just want to sit back and focus on the match.

Obviously I'll still cheer when theres a goal or some good build up play. Also some claps for good play like making a great tackle.

[–]FunkyyBaby Faced Assassin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that's a shame. Helps to have the crowd behind the team. Can just do what you want to do at home!

[–]alee1994[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the manager is asking us to play the game rather than just watch it. His quote today was if a team comes at OT and they have to play against 80000+11 rather than just 11, it will be impossible for them to win.

[–]BandwagonierRashford 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only way to improve the atmosphere outside of the Stretford End is to replace the seating behind the other goal with a terrace. Right now, the Premier League is never going to let that happen, but it will be a possibility if safe standing gets approved(I don't know how far along this is as far as getting approved).

[–]MrBenLadScholesy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So the reason of my post is to help chip in suggestions as to how we can improve the dying atmosphere at Old Trafford?

Guys we haven't even played at home yet. I'd wait till tonight before we decide how the atmosphere is.

I feel as though this window has completely scared the shit out of every other team and it's class, we will be loud, it's Pogba's homecoming, Mou's first time experiencing a home game, Ibrafuckinghimovic, jesus I can't wait.

[–]alee1994[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It helps to discuss, doesn't it? I'm not saying the atmosphere will be bad or something. The idea of this post came to my mind as the boss has been saying this same thing in his last 2 interviews. I thought it would be better if discussed it how we can help improve the atmosphere.

[–]w1h2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Singing section should be moved to where the away fans currently sit. The sound engineer we hired also recommended this, because that's the part of the ground which echoes the most, which leads to a better atmosphere. It helps that its located directly opposite the Stretford End, so you have two ends of the ground chanting, so it helps spread the noise around the stadium.

This was trialed for one game, but unfortunately the police weren't happy with it due to safety/security concerns. United should work with them to find an alternative solution around this.

[–]connorbillHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sign Ronaldo.

[–]Caesar3890 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

there's another problem, we need big money players for the fans to sing.

[–]Carson99Wee Paddy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is some of it not due to the size of OT? Like the design doesn't help like some other stadiums would. The acoustics of the stadium don't work well to make it seem loud, if that makes sense

[–]Caesar3890 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (35子コメント)

Our atmosphere compared to a lot of big clubs is second rate. Celtic, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Bayern, Dortmun, Atleti, Juve even the main Turkish teams to name a few all have absolutely electric atmosphere's. We lack that totally, well sorry, on occasion we do ourselves proud.

We don't need representatives we don't need a meeting. If a fan goes to a match and doesn't know to go there and sing and shout their hearts out then what are they doing there? Yes some people like to be quiet during a game to focus on it, but singing doesn't take away from watching the game. In fact it is easily my favourite part of going to OT.

You are there for 90mins - 2 hours. The players don't need fans intently watching them in silence, the players need the fans to drive them on and if you go to OT then it should be your duty to give the players that, to drown out the opposition fans and unnerve the opposition players.

The problem for us unfortunately is that too many of our fans don't understand that.

Edit: Love how the only thing people will focus on is the Liverpool thing, mayeb if I remove them and add in other clubs in a different league you wouldn't all be against it.

I should have wrote "OUR ATMOSPHERE IS AMAZING GLORY GLORY MAN UTD"

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 16ポイント17ポイント  (22子コメント)

Generally I agree with the statement, but Barca, Real and Liverpool's atmospheres aren't that good. Especially Liverpool's, it's only half decent when they sing YNWA, even then it's only like twice a game.

[–]Surfacing710Keane 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haven't been to either yet but does the Nou Camp and Bernabeu really have that good of an atmosphere?

Watching their games, it seems to be them waiting for the team to do something that they can cheer for and in the case of Real, they can be toxic to their own players.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been to the Bernabeu, atmosphere was mostly non existent although the match was against Deportivo so you can't expect too much.

[–]Caesar3890 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well on a whole they are a lot louder yes, a lot different and better than us. But it is hard to have their stadiums loud when they beat everyone so easy, except big games.

Yeah Real's toxicity still doesn't take away from atmosphere. Sometimes they do apply bad pressure.

[–]alee1994[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

But the problem is coordination too. Too many different people in different sections singing different songs. There needs to be a way to coordinate the singing. Maybe a leader in each section with a wakie takie allowed with clubs permission who can coordinate with people in other sections as to what song is to be sung etc

[–]NGU-BenSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Old Trafford is just like that, the acoustics aren't very good. The singing section will be shouting about one thing and the Stretford End would be shouting about another. The only way to improve the atmosphere, without telling day trippers to stay home would be to improve the acoustics within the stadium and making sure chants reverberate round the stadium well.

[–]Caesar3890 -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Come on man that is such an embarressment. Do you imagine what other fans would say, seriously? Celtic doesn't have a co-ordinated crowd either do Liverpool, the Milan's, no one. The problem again is this, the fact that people have to ask how we make it better.

For all those who are lost - just listen to the Stretford end and follow.

[–]alee1994[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

The j-stands sings one thing, the stretty something else. Anfield atmosphere is only good when they sign ynwa otherwise its a funeral home.

[–]Caesar3890 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It isn't hard to get everyone signing the same thing. Jesus other stadiums do it. Wise up Anfield has a great atmosphere. They far exceed ours.

Don't just be biased

[–]alee1994[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im not being biased. I see whats on tv like everyone else and once have been to anfield. Other than start and the end the atmosphere is dogshit. Even Klopp called them out. And there's no need to argue. I just want our ot to be great again. If this is so easy to sing the same thing then why doesn't it happen?

[–]Caesar3890 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But come on do you not see what I am saying? Other big singing clubs always sing the same songs. Celtic do it game in game out in an almost 70000 seater, if they can then why can't we?

[–]excusethisthrowaway 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you ever actually been to OT or Anfield? You keep saying everyone is biased but there's literally nothing biased about this. Go ask this question on the Liverpool sub and they'll all say the same thing (if there's anyone there). I have mates who are scum fans and they all say the same, they sing YNWA and the rest of the match you can hear a pin drop.

[–]Caesar3890 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Liverpool's atmosphere has dropped, but it is still better than OT. Yes I have been to OT 15-20 times actually. Wouldn't step foot in Anfield if I was paid

[–]abz1377 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Cheap tickets for under 25's. Usually the most vocal lads there.

Safe standing. More people = more noise and better atmosphere. It's been trialed at Celtic and has gone down quite well.

Last but not least: American-style choir sheets. Always welcome at any football match.

[–]alee1994[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I should add realistically. Ticket prices will only go up and I can't see safe standing in near future. Hope celtics experiment goes well.

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was wondering why you were being downvoted then I read your final point.

Cheap u25s tickets should be a thing though, not even just down to atmosphere.

[–]Caesar3890 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cheap tickets for U-25 good idea: (loudest lads there, thats bullshit)

Safe Standing - some redemption here good idea.

Annnndd: OMG is he fucking for real, its a football stadium not a fucking chapel