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Pasty pedantic neckbeard attempts to logic swimming out of it's place as an olympic sport. Fuckin fundies come and shit on his parade (reddit.com)

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[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (36子コメント)

/u/mannercat: people don't win a medal for each sport, but for each event. Many swimmers will compete in only certain strokes and distances, same with running. You get a gold medal for being the best at each event you participate in.

You're pretty stupid to not understand this, but I was taking a really nasty shit and had nothing better to do with my time.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (35子コメント)

Swimming gets way more attention than other sports because wow he won 27 medals, but swimming different distances. This is impossible for say boxing, where to get 1 medal you have to compete over and over for many days. Swimmers get one each time the jump in the pool.

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

Sooooo, what? Boxing is set up so that only two people can compete at once in a match, so to determine who is best, many matches must be held. You can fit 15 swimmers into a pool simultaneously, and it's a timed event, not a points event, so yeah, you put all the swimmers in at once for each event. The single winner gets gold for that event, and you move on to another event.

[–]I_did_naaaht [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'd watch the hell out of 15 man boxing.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

The events are really really similar, and the skills all translate over.

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

So what? The (in this instance olympic swimming) community has decided that they want to have all these events to test the various facets of the sport. What's wrong with that, besides you cannot seem to understand it?

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Because it's as silly as doing that for any other sport. Imagine a gold medal for each round of boxing.

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

But you get a gold medal for being the best competitor out of all the participants in that event or category. One round of boxing cannot decide that. One swimming event can. By your reasoning, there shouldn't be 'Judo' or 'Boxing', in the Olympics, just some kind of overarching, single, mass brawl or 'Best At Fighting' contest, but that's obviously not the point. The point is to see who is the best under a certain set of constraints or rules; Judo is a set of rules, just like backstroke is. Judo is different from boxing the way 100m Butterfly is different from 1000m breasttroke.

And, there are many times when they have to run more than one 100m breaststroke in order to have everyone get a chance to swim, so your point kind of fails there too.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

What skill, besides pacing, is different in the different races with the same stroke?

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

It's obvious that you don't participate in physical activity, because you don't understand the skills involved, despite some really good explanations from people like that weightlifter in the other thread. I'll try one last time though.

Do you understand that sprinting is a wholly, totally different skill from long distance running? That you use different muscle groups, running styles and rhythms, and strategy vs. your opponents? So, we can see that 100m v. 5000m is obviously really really different, and takes a different kind of athletic style and training. Right? So the smaller gradations like 100m v. 400m are just nuanced competitions that matter to the athletes, because the athletes understand that it's a different set of skills that are being tested.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I know aerobic exercise is different than aerobic exercise. I've been an athlete in various forms for about 35 years. I'm pretty sure that breast stroke is very similar to breast stroke for slightly longer. I'm not trying to say there's no difference between testing endurance and testing raw speed. If you really think they're as different as say bicycling and pistol shooting please explain the thousands of different aspects and skills of swimming for 45 seconds or swimming for 90 seconds.

[–]Pablopubes [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

Yeah swimming has more events. Of course it's not equal to other sports in that sense. But if you want to downplay what Phelps has sone just look at how many more medals he has than everyone else. What separates Phelps from all other Olympians is the sheer amount of events he participates in and wins. Nobody has ever done it to this level before. It's not close.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

The events he does are more similar to each other than if a martial artist wanted to do judo, fencing, and wrestling.

[–]Pablopubes [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

Yeah, but that's a stupid argument. Everyone knows it's different and that a swimmer has more chances for medals. It's not even, but it's just the way the sports are set up. If that's your argument then your just an old man yelling at a cloud.

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

Why's it stupid to say that swimming for 45 seconds is very similar to swimming for 60 seconds and therefore isn't different enough to be called a different sport?

[–]TrumpLovesCucks [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Because there are different methods to propel oneself through the water. Backstroke vs freestyle are two ridiculously different events depending on different muscle groups

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

I'm referring to going two different distances in the same method. But now that you mention it the two different strokes are comparable to knowing two moves in one martial art, you're very good at one motion.

[–]TrumpLovesCucks [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

So a judoka == okinawan karate in your eyes?

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Those are two totally different things. They have several hundred skills that are different. There aren't many more things to learn to do one motion like you just did, but longer.

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nobody is saying it's a different sport, you cretin, except you, repeatedly.

You don't get medals for winning a sport, you get them for winning events.

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[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Only suggesting you shouldn't get 3 medals for doing exactly the same thing only for longer. The olympics have lots of stuff that's just a test of physical prowess, so it's fine there.

[–]Zachums [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It's because /u/mannercat is a manlet.

[–]JumbledFun[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"ffss guys this is exercise! Your argument about it being a sport is a logical fallacy!" *wheezes* "fffsssss another win in the name of science!"

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Is the 200m that different than the 400m as it is from say fencing?

[–]JumbledFun[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

you do realize running does the same thing right? It's almost as there is a different strategy for how to exert yourself in each race. This bit is hard to pick up from your couch but if you've ever ran, or swam you would know this

[–]mannercat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have run and swam. When you compare one sprint to another verses comparing swimming to wrestling that it's pretty much an insignificant difference.

[–]TrumpLovesCucks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/u/user_account_deleted this is a fuckin lie

there is a gymnast who, up until this Olympics, had just as many gold medals as Phelps?

She has NINE gold medals. Phelps had 8 in Beijing alone. Maybe you weren't talking about "Olympic golds". Phelps has SIXTY FIVE gold medals all around. Don't compare no stinkin commie to the greatest athlete that ever lived. Phelps broke a 2000 year record for most individual golds at an Olympics last night. Bow down and say it with me: "USA USA USA"