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[–]mrhargett 119 points120 points121 points  (83 children)
So, I just realized what seems to be happening.
It appears to be a "rope a dope" strategy. Trump is letting the press and Hillary pummel him, throwing whatever they can at him, and wearing themselves out while fracturing their credibility.
If the public is aware, even on a subconscious level, of media bias against Trump in August, by the time October hits, anything they attempt to "surprise" him with should be a glancing blow. The voters won't take it seriously.
The press have recontexualized, revised and even outright fabricated to make negative stories about Trump. Don Lemon and others like him are seen as untrustworthy. And Trump keeps taunting them each time they start to fatigue.
All those years of hanging out with boxing legends appears to be affecting Trump's campaign.
[–]rustmepleaseGA 15 points16 points17 points  (0 children)
You think this is something, wait until you see him take on the rest of the world for our benefit!
[–]seinfan9TX 82 points83 points84 points  (32 children)
Yes, the strategy is to basically make them the boy who cried wolf.
[–]aperlsNY 62 points63 points64 points  (0 children)
The boy who cried for tendies
[–]Megabran 54 points55 points56 points  (22 children)
He's doing what he's always done. He makes a semi controversial statement, media goes apeshit over it, people look up his actual quote to see if he's for real, then end up on the Trump train. That's what happened to me!
[–]spaceman2121 22 points23 points24 points  (6 children)
same here. always thought of him as a ridiculous dude. saw one of his actual rally videos, was impressed by his ability to speak for an hour without a script, hooked since
[–]olater3IL 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
same, the rallies got me hooked on daddy
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    [–]vmp99 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
    MODS WE HAVE A SHILL
    [–]Defenestration1618NM[M] 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
    VMP99 WE NO LONGER HAVE A SHILL
    [–]vmp99 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    MODS=GODS
    [–]413x820FL 12 points13 points14 points  (1 child)
    “
    people look up his actual quote to see if he's for real
    Unfortunately, this is the extra step a lot of people don't bother to take. It's easier for them to be spoon fed than it is to make the effort to feed themselves.
    [–]Megabran 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
    That's where we come in. Gotta try to talk sense into your friends/family
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      [–]Megabran 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
      Even so, Trump is again shaping the narrative. Yesterday it was all they talked about. He says something outlandish, "fact" checkers talk about how Obama and Hillary only fostered the rise of ISIS, not literally created it. Non retards knew that was the case all along but Trump brought it into the narrative. Sounds like a good thing to me
      [–]roach95 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
      But that's not what you were saying. You were implying that the media is taking him out of context to discredit him. If lying to the media for your own personal gain is something to be proud of, why does everyone hate when Hillary does it? Should we praise people for just saying random shit and saying that they "shaped the narrative" when people call them out on it?
      Also, it's very easy to criticize foreign policy decisions with hindsight. What do you think should have been done with regard to Iraq and Syria?
      [–]Megabran -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
      I don't think we should have intervened in either country, but that's looking in hindsight no? Trump says a lot of things. He says things offhand, jokes around, and the media takes every single one at face value. Why should he treat them with anything other than hostility? I wouldn't call Trump exaggerating Obama's role in the formation of ISIS anywhere near as bad as Hillary's lies in general. She's a criminal, he speaks without a PR filter
      [–]roach95 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
      Well here's my problem. You say that Trump says things offhand and jokes around but the media takes all of it at face value. Right here is a prime example where he wasn't joking around. He was offered multiple chances to clarify his statements or say it was a joke. But then suddenly because of the backlash he comes out and says he was just being sarcastic. That is the exact opposite of telling it like it is.
      And ok fair enough on Hillary. But do you think it's a good thing for people to make outlandish statements to "shape the narrative"? Because that's the biggest problem I have with the regressive left. If they make up false or extremely exaggerated statistics about the wage gap and rape statistics and then say it's just to get people talking about the issue is that ok? Because I don't and I think we need to be consistent about denouncing that sort of behavior regardless of who does it.
      [–]Megabran -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
      I think the whole thing is a case of him baiting the media, which I am 100% in favor of. It's become clear that the media is completely compromised so any way he can take advantage is that corruption us a good thing in my book. Previous candidates have tried running as straight shooters and failed. Look at the primaries, look at the races in 2012 and 2008. They were vulnerable to the media slander in a way DJT is not. I'm sure he's not infallible, but I love his policies, I love his fighting spirit, and I think he's exactly what we need right now, so I'm willing to cut him some slack on what may be seen as non sequiturs. I see your point about making things up though, but Trump is fighting fire with fire and it's working. Either way the media as it is now needs a serious overhaul, we need more than 6 companies running the MSM (all of whom have donated to Clinton).
      [–]roach95 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      I still don't like the idea of someone who is trying to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate stooping to bait the media. I would be okay with him not running as a straight shooter if I thought he brought enough to the table but I fear he's going to just let Mike Pence make all the policy decisions which I think is a terrible idea. I do see your points about the MSM but I disagree about fighting fire with fire. Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and all that.
      Regardless, I thought this was a good conversation. Thanks!
      [–]TrumpTrain-botUSA 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)

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      [–]A166524NY 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      Same here, back in MLK Weekend this year I go up to Maine to see my grandparents, have this long discussion with my Opa about Trump. My Opa was a staunch conservative so when he backed Trump I was shocked, Rand Paul had yet to drop out so I was still stumping for Rand and hadn't really listened to much more than what the media had said about trump; I even trotted out the "xenophobic racist" bullshit. My Opa urged me to take a closer look and said he really believed in Trump.
      He passed away two and a half weeks later. In the time between I had watched a bunch of Trumps speeches and whatever rallies he had; needless to say I was fully aboard the trump train. When I saw my Opa on his deathbed for the last time I told him not to worry; all his values of conservatism have been instilled in me, and even more so I told him I would be voting trump in November, I went further to promise I'd instill these values in my son, his great grandson, and preserve his legacy. He was doped up and couldn't speak but this statement from me elicited a grin on his face I'll never forget - my Opa understood my words and approved. He passed that night knowing his legacy will never die.

      Trump2016....for you Opa, because you always wanted to MAGA

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      [–]Block_HelenTX 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      That's pretty cool. What statement in particular did you look up, if I may ask?
      [–]Megabran 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      In truth it was no one statement. It was around the time the favored son Yeb! dropped out. I was thinking "How can this le clown be making it this far?!" Looked into Trump's statements and the rest is history
      [–]SquanchIt 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      For me it was a bunch of things. Every single thing I looked into I found out it was removed form context, greatly exaggerated, or just a flat out lie.
      The whole Obama founded ISIS is a good example. He stuck to his wording, but he media reported it as if Trump literally said "Obama literally founded ISIS." Everyone who isn't up their own ass knows Trump didn't mean he sat at a rebel table and declare ISIS an organization.
      [–]Donk_QuixoteNV 15 points16 points17 points  (3 children)
      The Wolfe that got stumped.
      [–]ElephantManatee 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
      “
      Blitz
      This video of Cooper getting BTFO by Trump is even better
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9jJhOWIJWE
      Hope we see trump pull out some printed out sheets during the debates to blow out the bullshit
      [–]timmy12688IL 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
      I JUST LOOOVE HOW HE PULLS OUT HIS TRUMP CARD!
      5D Korean Civ VI Chess.
      [–]Lord_DraconiaNM 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Ahhh and the comments are glorious. I read probably 50 pro Trump comments and maybe 2 Hill Shill comments the whole internet is turning into The_Donald. I love you fucking centipedes so much my fingers do not have the words to type to express it but thank you all.
      [–]Block_HelenTX 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      WEAPONIZED FABLES
      [–]Lord_DraconiaNM 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
      If there's weaponized autism and weaponized shit posting are we basically autists shitting in our hands and using it to destroy the MSM zoo once and for all? If so, I need to get me some more meme fiber.
      [–]Block_HelenTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Yes we are!!!
      [–]ElephantManatee 46 points47 points48 points  (8 children)
      Could also be why he's not going balls out attacking Hillary emails. Concern troll Karl rove gets all pissy that Trump isn't hammering her on those points, but Don is letting the info build up so it's a much more compelling case before going balls out. If you hit hard too soon they'll say this is just the same old story they've been harping on forever.
      [–]RAPIN_BILLYUSA 38 points39 points40 points  (4 children)
      He probably has the best autists figuring out the Clinton web
      [–]TilbiusNJ 24 points25 points26 points  (2 children)

      WE HAVE THE BEST AUTISTS, DON'T WE FOLKS

      [–]callmetompleaseMAGA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)

      IAMANAUSTISTEFORMURICA

      JOINUS

      [–]ElephantManatee 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      The key though is taking the autists work and distilling it to something that's easy for the average person to follow and that's what Trump does best.
      [–]smalldickjimmy 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
      I dont know. He has been tweeting about her emails a lot.
      [–]ElephantManatee 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
      Yea but he hasn't launched a full war on them. He tweets and mentions it in his speeches to keep the story alive, but he doesn't get bogged down focusing on that one thing while ignoring his campaign. They would prob rather he went full out on the emails now so they could bullshit their way around it and kill the story. He's slow bleeding her before going for the knockout
      [–]flrojow 20 points21 points22 points  (0 children)
      I mean, with the DNC leaks, the absolute, all-pervading corruption within the corporate media is no longer a subject of speculation.
      The evidence is there, for all who are willing to see and think for themselves. There's no reason for Trump whatsoever to appease these notorious liars.
      [–]PhillypedePA 21 points22 points23 points  (4 children)

      FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY, STING LIKE A CENTIPEDE

      [–]ruxpin_the_bumrushMD 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)

      WITH CURVED HOLLOW FANGS

      [–]bottomlines 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Two curved hollow fangs inject lethal venom
      [–]Charles_the_SkyUSA 26 points27 points28 points  (3 children)
      “
      The press have recontexualized, revised and even outright fabricated to make negative stories about Trump.
      My favorite is when it is a "unknown source". They just make whatever the hell they want up and they are not accountable. I'm looking at you Morning Joe
      [–]FlorianPicassoMT 17 points18 points19 points  (1 child)
      Hey, it's not like they were saying it, it was other people. Smart people, you know, saying these things. It wasn't them making it up. They didn't do that. (they did)
      [–]tjanCAN 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Another favourite of theirs: "some experts are saying..."
      cmon man, are you an expert? Are you sure you should be having your own opinion on this? I mean really.
      [–]TRUMPTRUMPTRUMPNY 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Making things up and insinuate that Trump want to blow up the world with nuclear bombs
      [–]spaceman2121 15 points16 points17 points  (3 children)
      well, there was a public story in NYT about people canceling their subscriptions because of perceived bias in the reporting
      in another worldnews threat, people who weren't Donald supporters were bitching about how /r/politics is insufferable because of the blatant anti-trump posts
      Here's what will happen now:
      1. In a couple of weeks, anytime anyone hears an anti-Trump story, they're going to yawn and say "oh that's old news"
      2. Trump is going to go on the counteroffensive
      [–]bitchalotCA 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
      Americans hate it when an individual gets ganged up on. Trump will use the debates to shine because he has control over the message and can deliver it directly to the public.
      [–]spaceman2121 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I thought that was American character as I used to knoe
      Now, I'm not too sure
      I'm not even America but studied there, and thats what I loved so much about your country: you were truly unfraid of your strength. I love, love your idea of boldness, of taking risks and of being triumphant
      [–]HEADPOCKET 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Yes. They've blown their load too early.
      [–]scout0927 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
      Thank you for putting into words what I've had tumbling around in my head this past week. He's just having fun at this point.
      [–]Akoraceb -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Saying one thing, doubling---tripling down, then backpedaling. passing the blame onto someone else...rinse and repeat... yeah that makes for unpredictability and the inability to figure someone out...
      All of which are terrible qualities to have as a leader of any nation, much less the US.. More so it makes you look like a lunatic... maybe you should be running for the leader of N.Korea, that guy is all about unpredictability.
      [–]Topherbern 10 points11 points12 points  (5 children)
      Donald is a genius.
      [–]RAPIN_BILLYUSA 9 points10 points11 points  (4 children)
      Too smart for politics
      [–]lolmongerMAGA 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)

      That's why he made billions in real estate instead of trying to get on the taxpayer mealticket.

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              [–]mrhargett 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              One example: The Secret Service never contacted Trump regarding the 2a comments despite CNN reporting so.
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                [–]mrhargett 7 points8 points9 points  (8 children)
                Aww. Guys, look, it's my first CTR $hill! I'm so proud!
                Edit: Of course, I don't know why he says it, and I've never said it myself.
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                  [–]mrhargett 1 point2 points3 points  (6 children)
                  I'm not voting for Trump. I don't vote.
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                    [–]mrhargett -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
                    No. I don't vote because I'm a pacifist anarchist who sees government as the problem and not the solution. I've never voted because I don't believe the will of the majority should dictate to the minority.
                    [–]shadowman3001BPA 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
                    You....Just believe that the average voting majority makes a better decision than you.
                    [–]mrhargett -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
                    No. I don't believe anybody has the actual capacity to govern a body with prudence, especially not a mob with no fully vested stake in the whole. Democracy in any form ultimately devolves into the grasping and greedy majority voting in their interests at expense of the minority.
                    I don't participate because I believe it's immoral. But morality is personal in this case, so I'm not condemning others for participating. It's a choice each person makes.
                    [–]shadowman3001BPA 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
                    You're party of the problem, bud.
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