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[–]aidsbergerinparadisePA 669ポイント670ポイント  (214子コメント)

Say no more. 22% accepted for Asians, to 81% for Blacks with the same scores...unreal

[–]localbizdudeFL 339ポイント340ポイント  (149子コメント)

Holy shit dude. 81% of black applicants are being accepted with average grades and test scores? Why do they even need to apply?

[–]TRPsnUSA 315ポイント316ポイント  (103子コメント)

64.8% accepted with under a 3.4gpa and a 26on the mcat. Compared with less than 10% of whites for the same score. Thats bullshit. I love my asian doctors.

[–]Pwning4everTX 90ポイント91ポイント  (20子コメント)

I'm a Comp Sci major but I do talk with a lot of pre-med students. Many would flip their shit if they knew blacks had a 65% acceptance rate with a 3.2-3.4 GPA.

[–]IHave20 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

As a pre-med student i wish i was black...this doesn't seem right, but i do not know how to fight against this.

[–]OnlyIfIHaveTo 51ポイント52ポイント  (3子コメント)

You mean you always felt that something is wrong with you?

That you were born in the #WrongSkin ? That you are really #TransBlack?

Contratulations! You are part of one of the most oppressed minorities.

http://imgur.com/PtL13Aw

[–]rp_valiantUK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what exactly is the difference between white humans and black humans OTHER than skin color?

Grape Drank.

RIP sides.

[–]HugeFishCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just say you're black and when anyone questions it call they racist.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I started out premed before I decided it was bullshit. They know and many of them will go full stormfront talking about it.

[–]jonmcfluffyTX 215ポイント216ポイント  (76子コメント)

you know, if they are getting worse scores while being allowed to graduate with less scores...

this... is making me racist. i literally dont want to go to a black doctor because idk what kind of score they got with their degree. i want to go to a doctor that got a 4.0 GPA on their degree, not a 2.0 on their degree.

i know with this type of scoring, that white and Asian doctors are going to be the best of the best and minorities could be a crap shot.

[–]z64danTX 130ポイント131ポイント  (25子コメント)

You know what they call the guy who graduated with the worst grades in med school?

Doctor

[–]Jonathan_DB 40ポイント41ポイント  (10子コメント)

You know what they call the guy who graduated with the worst grades in med school?

Lieutenant.

[–]BrauneAugenNY 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

My brother dated an OBGY-N for years, she said try to avoid black doctors. You might get good ones, however, she said the majority in her class were just getting pushed through because of who they were, rather than how good they were. She was always a very liberal person, but she said med school made her rethink it all.

Disclaimer: I am only a messenger of what she said often... :\

[–]enjoys_fisting 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Simple, show it with your wallet.

I only see White/Asian male doctors, dentists, specialists, etc. Simply because I know they weren't given some freebie bonus to get into medical school.

[–]simpleclear 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a serious problem. Scalia observed the same thing.

[–]sloppiesCAN 39ポイント40ポイント  (29子コメント)

As someone who's going to be going through medschool, I assure you it doesn't work like that. If they graduated, they know their shit. Doesn't matter what race - they all did well enough to graduate. Yes, the black person may have gotten into the school with a lower score (maybe), but they worked hard as shit to actually graduate after being accepted.

I'm white and if I didn't get accepted over numerous black people with the same score that would suck, but...I'd just reapply after beefing up my credentials.

[–]slodojo 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just wait. You will be shocked some day at the different levels of understanding and between individual MDs. There have been plenty of fellow doctors I've worked with that I wouldn't let touch my family members.

[–]Sakkyoku-Sha 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Almost all fields have lowered their standards dramatically. Many courses only require a C average and the pre reqs in order to get a degree.

[–]jonmcfluffyTX 9ポイント10ポイント  (15子コメント)

even if their score is lower, do a high % of them still graduate? i cant imagine having a low passing rate is a good idea, than again all i have ever seen is "low rank" schools.

[–]Ohh_Yeah 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most med schools in the US have a 99% pass rate. The suggested MCAT score deemed necessary to survive med school is a 26 (on the old scale, about a 500 on the new scale). The fact that most schools only take people with 85+ percentile scores is because of competition, which obviously brings us back to the issue at hand.

[–]GarrioValereAZ 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nowadays correcting a black student is racist so who knows.

[–]_yourhonoryourhonor_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ya just reapply after reapplying yourself more than your black counterpart did. That's equality.

Uncuck yourself please.

[–]simpleclear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you Canadian, by any chance?

[–]roccogillybean 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not being very sensitive to the doctors background and feelings. Stop being selfish.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That just makes me never want to see a black or hispanic doctor. Good job affirmative action.

[–]dawen_shawpuhTX 90ポイント91ポイント  (26子コメント)

As a person who's goal is to go to medical school AND being white. my father has told me since day one, to work my hardest because medical schools are against white males right now

[–]rickscarf 92ポイント93ポイント  (3子コメント)

"You're a fucking white male" - admissions board

[–]dawen_shawpuhTX 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! IM EUROPEAN AMERICAN AND I HAVE LOTS OF BLACK IN ME

[–][deleted] 58ポイント59ポイント  (2子コメント)

White Males don't have it as bad as American Asians and American Indians (from India), not even close.

[–]Ohh_Yeah 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, white male is pretty middle-of-the-playing-field right now. Asians and Indians have it a fair bit harder than you do, where white females have it slightly easier (this changes every cycle though) followed by Mexicans and Blacks.

[–]951jimbo 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm in southern California, the Inland Empire. How come there are no white doctors at all? Most are immigrants from india, asia, even the middle east and eastern Europe.

[–]catbertzCA 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

SoCal resident checking in with my theory. I notice a lot of import doctors at the various health care organizations. I suspect they get hired at a considerably lower salary than white doctors are willing to accept. I've heard similar from friends in the pharmacy biz. Work for one of the drug store chains, make a good bit less. I'm sure Obamacare isn't helping doctor salaries either.

[–]notgoodatcomputerWA 23ポイント24ポイント  (11子コメント)

They are against Asian females. White males are somewhere in the middle. White females have it worse.

[–]Pwning4everTX 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

Don't females benefit from Affirmative Action?

[–]ewbrowerAL 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes but it's outweighed by how many apply. Women typically do much better in college, so more are applying to med school having higher scores. Affirmative action is all about making sure the demographics of the nation are represented as-is in the acceptance pool. If any particular demographic disproportionately applies to any school, they will necessarily have to have higher scores to get in.

[–]Pwning4everTX 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Woman are also nearly 60% of the nations universities students. Looks like feminist have are getting their wish of eliminating men from education.

That being said, woman may perform better in college, but a 2.8gpa in engineering is more impressive than a 4.0 in any social science. despite the yuge gender imbalance, men are still about 90% of students in my STEM building. Woman do tend to be slightly over represented in biology (pre-med) though.

[–]dawen_shawpuhTX 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Females are generally bad because they see them dropping out because of them getting married, but yes they're also left out

[–]ekpgTX 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a white person with a hispanic sounding last name, thanks for fucking around the world Portuguese people!

[–]Ohh_Yeah 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

As a white medical student I've only heard one honest-to-God, not SJW bullshit answer to this whole situation: people feel more at ease talking to a doctor that's the same race as them. Currently there aren't so many black doctors out there practicing. There are clinics in poor urban communities that are desperate for black doctors for this reason.

Now obviously this is a small piece of the puzzle and the rest of it is bullshit SJW academia self-hatred, but from that perspective it does make sense. Of course not all black medical students are going to end up being family med or internal med in a low-income, primarily black area, but that's the rationale I guess.

[–]rondarouseyy 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

i fucking hate sjw but this is actually a good reason, particularly when dealing with kids, my sisters is a doctor and told me a lot of stories where for example a little girl absolutely wanted to be treated by a female doctor, or vice versa, so its a common practice to switch patients to accommodate their needs (Atleast in canada)

sorry for my poor english, not my first language

[–]Veylis 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are clinics in poor urban communities that are desperate for black doctors for this reason.

That is still a silly reason for racism in admission policy. It assumes most black doctors will even want to work in inner city clinics after med school.

[–]7UPvote 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

The chart is deceptive. A 3.4-3.6 GPA is likely above average for a lot of schools (bio majors had a 2.8X average at my large, well-ranked research university) and a 28 MCAT puts you in the top third of test-takers.

The AEI is also deceptively cutting off the upper-end of the MCAT-GPA chart, where admissions rates converge. a 32 MCAT, the top score shown on the AEI's chart, is about the class average for a good-but-not great medical school.

TL;DR: This is low-energy cherry-picking

[–]ArmyTigerARMY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their attrition rates probably reflect that, if my class is any indication.

[–]TAmtb11NY 135ポイント136ポイント  (13子コメント)

as one of the commenters wrote:

"So statistically (and economists are all about the aggregates), if you personally want a better than average doctor, pick an asian one (and don’t pick a, well you know).

So, tell me again how affirmative action helps stop irrational discrimination?"

[–]Kitty015 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

It seems like affirmative action stops irrational discrimination by replacing it with rational discrimination as you describe.

[–]returnofthecityboyDEU 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now you have numbers to back up why you're not going to the black doctor, or black engineer. I think this is even worse for the black community, because you never know whether somebody just made it because of AA, so that makes you judge their merits more harshly than if AA weren't a thing.

[–]simpleclear 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

So, tell me again how affirmative action helps stop irrational discrimination?

Because now you have a government guarantee that an affirmative action baby went through every step in his education and training less qualified than peers who got to that step... so now it's rational discrimination.

[–]TAmtb11NY 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

which is literally the regressive left's end goal.

[–]dbcitizen 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

I spoke to a Baylor admissions board member, and he told me the reason they do this is because a black doctor will often practice in predominantly black areas (6 times the rate of white doctors). They'll often stay there for the entirety of their career, as well. These are the areas that need doctors the most at the moment.

[–]TAmtb11NY 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is great, but that is not a reason to discriminate based on race rather than merit when admitting students.

[–]radamanthine 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

So they want to kill black people with substandard care? That's horrible!

[–]PANTSONMIXTAPE 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats actually super fucking diabolical

Eugenics on an entirely different level

[–]Dryad2NY 114ポイント115ポイント  (27子コメント)

I don't get why all Asians are not voting for trumps team. Shouldn't they be sick of being discriminated as sub human by the left.

Left: "Well you're the smallest minority in the us , but none of the advantages of being a minority apply to you, so good luck"

[–]iApp1eSauceFL 88ポイント89ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, one of the big reasons I support Trump as a second generation Chinese American is that he's going to get rid of bullshit racial laws that are supposed to help minorities. What actually happens is that Asians get shafted simply because they were born the wrong ethnicity. Nowadays, the amount of work you have to do to become successful depends on your race.

[–]-fire-USA 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

I hate this fact so much. Why is race such a big determinate in success these days? It seems that we went from being white biased to black/latino biased. Why can't colleges just accept people based off of merit alone?

[–]AntisocialDarwinistGA 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

The pendulum swung, buddy. In the 60's, it was Jim Crow. Now it's Affirmative Action and the rise of the Regressive Left.

[–]PANTSONMIXTAPE 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Divide and conquer.

If were too busy fighting people who dont look like us, we cant fight the people who take advantage of us.

Thatll be 160k; for an education that costs about 24k in England

[–][deleted] 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

CHECK YOUR ASIAN PRIVALEGE!!!

[–]Dryad2NY 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wait so Asians get White Privilege or Minority Privilege ? I think Asians are going to a have racial identity crisis now.

[–]HighEnergyTrumpstarGA 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Technically some the studies have shown that they are being discriminated against. And they're still kicking ass in spite of it. So there isn't any Asian Privilege just Asian excellence.

[–]Dryad2NY 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess there's some truth to that notion , when you don't give any handouts people will figure out a way to make a living and even excel. Now there's a minority group that's excelling with little to none government assistance. But, the left will conveniently ignore that fact. It doesn't fit into their narrative.

[–]Knifepony_VisageIDN 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most losing a video game: "Oh damn, shit's rigged."

Asians playing the same game: "Must get better; to PERFECTION!"

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude, we invented Dark Souls. We love the challenge.

No seriously though, fuck people who preach about how important diversity is but who really only care "NEED MOAR BLACK PPL"

[–]Dryad2NY 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone but Asians ! That's the leftist liberal American way !

[–]caessa_WI 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thats actually why im voting trump. My younger brother got his future fucked over by sjws and black students at his college. Apparently 3 black kids vs 1 asian kid = asian kid being racist and suspended for 2 yrs from college despite the asian kid having a bruised neck and the black kids unmarked... sjw students slandered him in the school paper and the white dean sided with the black kids because you cant go against them. Sick of the liberals fucking over my race while promising equality... i dont see fucking equality here.

[–]Dryad2NY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to say , multiculturalism doesn't work. Where as multi ethnic homogenous culture does. America is starting to get very divided in culture and its doomed to fail. We only need to look to Europe for proof.

I'm sorry to hear that. Social justice gestapos , I hope some day will be synonymous with high treason. Because they are the reason our country , socially , is falling apart. They are fomenting so much civil unrest ,they don't know what they're doing. They don't know the consequences of their actions and I hope it is unforgivable.

[–]S_T_R_Y_K_E_ROH 31ポイント32ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's why Ivy league is out of the question of me - too expensive, too hard to get into and in my case and a degree from the state/local college has a higher return for investment. (I'm upper middle class First Gen Chinese American)

[–]simpleclear 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't despair, Ron Unz is running a slate of candidates for the Harvard Board of Overseers who plan on ending ethnic preferences. If they win this nonsense might disappear (in the Ivy League, at least) very quickly.

[–]578635861 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

I say, Asians should boycott Ivies, why play the game? If I have the chance of picking btw Berkeley & HYP I will definitely pick the former.

[–]NameSmurfHereUSA 32ポイント33ポイント  (4子コメント)

Asians don't fuck around with dumb boycotts which will harm their own professions to make political statements. Unlike some others..

You either get ahead, or someone else takes your place and stomps on you in the process, all the while your friends and relatives do their utmost to remind you of your failings.

Not even including the Asian parents or the way relationships/dating is linked to your "status."

Source: Asian

[–]henry589 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do realize a 5 point difference in MCAT score is the difference between a 60% and a 90%. Its like comparing a D- to a A- like holy shit it is so unfair.

[–][deleted] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't give a fuck about the color of my doctor's skin. I just want him/her to be the most knowledgeable one available. What the fuck is this shit?

[–]BIG_FKN_HAMMER 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like police officers, when I see a doctor I forget about their skin color pretty quickly. I judge them by their abilities as a doctor.

[–]wigglypoocool 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

tfw im Asian applying to med school. ripperonis

[–]spunker88NY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which makes your wonder if people are allowed to choose their sex or be "gender fluid" then why can't you choose your race or be "race fluid". What if I'm born a white male but identify as a black woman, are the SJWs that defend all this crap going to stop me.

[–]HexezWorkCA 139ポイント140ポイント  (5子コメント)

JUST SAY YOU'RE INDIAN LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN!

IF ANYONE ASKS CALL THEM RACIST/SEXIST/XENOPHOBIC!

[–]PplWhoAnnoyGonAnnoy 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

Feather, not dot. Otherwise you'll be fucked in admissions.

[–]pizzlewizzleAZ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just accuse them of bigotry if they even ASK. Like Rachel Dolezol

[–]DragofireheartNH 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Psh, Indian is out of style.

I consider myself a sexually repressed faun-kin transcenduxal.

[–][deleted] 285ポイント286ポイント  (22子コメント)

ACTUAL INSTITUTIONALISED RACISM

Because liberals believe in a genetic ladder where asians are on top and everyone else is inferior.

[–]peakyfuckingblinders 61ポイント62ポイント  (17子コメント)

Why don't white's and Asians start labeling themselves "Hispanic" because anyone can be anything today apparently. Even though Hispanic == racial distinction not nationality. All it takes is a college saying "you're not Hispanic" to a true Hispanic, and they'd be sued to shit. There is no way they'd call out a student on it.

[–]Rule_of_DumbFL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop trying to appropriate my culture!

But seriously, I am as white as they come but am actually Hispanic. Its got it's privileges and its downfalls.

[–]stackpoole 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

All that social justice bullshit only applies to non whites. Its nothing more than semantic bullshit. Rather than outright saying anti white racism, they simply say "diversity" and "affirmative action" to achieve the same goal.

[–]Pwning4everTX 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hispanic is anyone who is from a country that was colonized by Spain and speaks spanish as their main language. So any country below Texas excluding Brazil (portugese not spaniards colonized those guys).

[–]Jonathan_DB 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

Parts of the US were colonized by Spain and speak Spanish as their main language...

[–]TheSourTruth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you go to SoCal or south Texas now, you can see that some parts haven't left.

[–]inhumancannonballUSA 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know plenty of Hispanics who cannot speak Spanish.

[–]Pwning4everTX 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I meant, the nation they are from speaks spanish.

[–]Pwning4everTX 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asians on average have an IQ of like 105. Too bad Sweden is importing the wrong asians ;)

[–]ItsPoolyVT 120ポイント121ポイント  (1子コメント)

Affirmative action should be outlawed. It was ruled that race can be used as a criteria when "applications are equal", but no 2 applications are exactly equal. I'm sure many people enjoy the privilege of being discriminated on the color of your skin possibly costing you your dream college or in the case of minorities being shamelessly coddled by AA like you need it. If there's any AA it should be awarded based on economic status if you really want to help.

[–]Rvsz 73ポイント74ポイント  (21子コメント)

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

[–]rickscarf 17ポイント18ポイント  (20子コメント)

Devils advocate, but why didn't they just give african americans a bonus of 280, hispanics a bonus of 235 and zero bonus for asian americans? Looks a lot better from a PR standpoint

[–]Watch_CloselyVA 63ポイント64ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because if Asians receive a bonus of zero, then you have to give whites a bonus of 50 to compensate. I can't imagine "whites get free 50 point bonus on college applications!" going over well from a PR standpoint.

[–]monzzter221 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sounds exactly like it.

Someone should make that meme, where the cartoon guy is sweating and doesn't know which button to push, that says "penalize Asians by 50 points" and "give whites 50 bonus points"

[–]Ypres 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

well then they have to give white people(which I assume they use a standard because we live in a majority white country) a 50 point bonus.

[–]rickscarf 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point, that would NOT be good PR, how dare they give fucking white males any points

[–]ButthurtSJWBelow 8ポイント9ポイント  (14子コメント)

Because if Asians and whites aren't penalized the % of hispanic & blacks in college would be next to none. This IQ chart explains it all

[–]DEFCON_TWONY 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

if Asians and whites aren't penalized the % of hispanic & blacks in college would be next to none.

Because clearly there's no overlap in the chart, moron.

[–]SubhumanSandersUK 9ポイント10ポイント  (10子コメント)

Average black IQ is 85? Jesus christ.

[–]TheSourTruth 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

In first world countries when raised in a similar setting to whites, yes. 85 is about one standard deviation below 100 (whites range from about 97-104 depending on country).

In Africa itself, average sub-Saharan IQs as measured by supposed unbiased tests such as Raven's Matrices result in IQs from the upper 50s to about 70, depending on the country. To what degree this matters depends on how much you trust the IQ test, whichever used, and how it is administered, to actually measure overall intelligence.

Intelligence is well known to be highly heritable, yet due to obvious PC social laws and peer pressure, discussion of the matter is small and often criticized.

[–]KestyrMAGA 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's Black American mind you. Black American's are only around 60-75 percent Black on average. It's why they're typically Brown and not typically Black. It gets way worse when you look at Sub-Saharan Africa, where the average is around 70.

[–]DEFCON_TWONY 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just remember that these are averages. You will find a white person with an 85 IQ and you will find a black person with a 100 IQ.

[–]eLZhiUK 96ポイント97ポイント  (7子コメント)

[–]cowboysfan88VA 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

MILO IS SUCH A DANGEROUS FAGGOT ITS TRULY INCREDIBLE

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

why finally an equal footing grant i can apply for

milo the man

[–]Rhymes_with_ikeUSAF 145ポイント146ポイント  (8子コメント)

Underrepresented Minority....

http://i.imgur.com/mdHEFSW.gif

[–]x817TX 47ポイント48ポイント  (3子コメント)

they are literally called 'minorities' for a reason. there is simply less black people than white people. you CAN'T expect there to be an equal amount of all races everywhere, it's outrageous.

[–]jonk970 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

True equality is about equal opportunity, NOT equal outcomes.

[–][deleted] 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

The real racism in this country

[–]civoljonam13CAN 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

Seriously though, what there saying here is that racial minorities are inferior to the masses and need to be given special privileges because they wouldn't be able to get into these schools without it. Imo that is a really shitty message to send to minorities that they are worse than the masses.

[–]CanMan11 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely agree with you. If you think that all races are equal, how can you justify affirmative action?

[–]pizzlewizzleAZ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

They don't respond to that attack. We need to start calling them super fucking racist to Asians.

[–]TheSourTruth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the "soft bigotry of low expectations". THEY are the ones being bigots.

[–]insincere_fondueUSA 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is called the soft bigotry of low expectations.

[–]TAmtb11NY 43ポイント44ポイント  (6子コメント)

fuck this shit. "Diversity" shouldn't be anywhere close to as important as merit.

[–]monsda 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed. I DO think colleges and grad schools should take background into account. Kid from a poor neighborhood with shitty public schools that has good grades compared to their classmates (but not compared to high performers from good schools)? Yeah give them a look. They could be a very hard worker and excel in a good environment.

But only taking ethnicity into account? Come on, man.

[–]cyrux 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think race is an interesting topic, but I'm actually more concerned about not having enough men in university in the future. The school system seems to bias in favour of women, but it's getting ridiculous. >60% women in almost every field?

Women still tend to work part time and prefer educated mates. I really wonder if having such a gender imbalance is going to be good or not. In healthcare in the UK for example, a doctor costs a lot of money to train, and it takes some time to recoup that investment. Women choosing part time work cost more than the system was designed for.

And eventually, down the line, if universities don't enforce quotas, then employers will enforce them. No employer or employee wants their workforce dominated by one gender.

It all has to start with an overhaul of schooling to put everyone on an even field, years before university starts.

[–]Anti-Dentite8910USA 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's why this country is turning to shit. Best man/woman for the job.

[–]400GrapesLA 29ポイント30ポイント  (11子コメント)

Based Cornell

[–]TAmtb11NY 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

as they say, "easiest to get into, hardest to get out of"

[–]400GrapesLA 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I nearly went there haha.

[–]TAmtb11NY 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

samsies; grew up in ithaca, but needed to get outta there. also THE most liberal small town there is

[–]bearacoulda 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've never been anywhere near the college, and my only experience with Cornell is watching The Office. Why is it supposed to be the hardest to get out of? More difficult classes?

[–]TAmtb11NY 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

it is exaggerated but essentially it is a little harder to get the same letter grade at Cornell compared to other ivy's.

[–]Cakeflourz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

as they say, "easiest to get into, hardest to get out of"

I understand the "easiest to get into" part, but what does "hardest to get out of" mean in this context? I ultimately never applied to Cornell, but I always thought it was an intriguing option, and very different from the other Ivy League schools. 

[–]TAmtb11NY 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

it is a great school. really awesome. and the campus is absolutely beautiful. "ITHACA IS GORGES"

As stated above, the "hardest to get out of is exaggerated but referencing that essentially it is harder to get the same letter grade at Cornell compared to other ivy's.

[–]RICHCISWHITEMALE 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

END THE REAL RACISM

[–]Jonno100 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

what. the. FUCK. IS THIS SHIT

[–][deleted] 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Institutionalized racism

[–]NavigatorMostNimbleNJ 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Liberals all know this, plus the secret: you can check box for race... like the Indian or the black white girl, the black white guy who got a black scholarship from Oprah... you lied to Oprah!... these are just those that have been exposed.

[–]Sweden4TrumpSWE 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wtf is a transracial? "I identify as black on mondays"?

[–]Recolumn 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's important to note that it's ILLEGAL for Berkeley to use affirmative action (along with public unis in CA). But I'm sure they do anyway...

[–]UnknownSpartanCA 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Affirmative Action is illegal here, but making race a factor isn't. Thanks, Bakke vs. UC Regents.

[–]YOU_LYING_BITCHAZ 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Academia is a complete scam. You pay so much money to go to a school, but truly only about 15-20 classes are relevant for your major, but something more like 64 classes is what constitutes a bachelors. Even of those 15-20 classes, all the information is found in a textbook you could just read anyways, but for some reason this reading and learning has to be done under an expensive state sanctioned compound and the bill includes also chipping in for massive sports teams and research and housing complexes and research. Your entire life you're told the only future to prosperity is education, but this isn't Europe and it's not true at all. In a free market society your knowledge is what set's you apart, not your education. The difference is subtle and cucks don't generally pick up on it.

We put people in charge of our water systems, power grids, air ports, jets etc and half of what we judge on their competency is things like how they did in 3 months of Spanish and whether or not they grasped the meaning of chivalry in a Jane Austen novel. Fuck academia.

[–]CarinusMAGA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're speaking the truth there. We need a complete overhaul of trade education. (I like Germany's system of hybrid apprenticeships) One of the serious losses is the deep training in philosophic thought and debate. That is what the original "liberal" education was. Not this demented chimera between trade and liberal courses that teach neither and disservice both.

[–]gmwbh 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats on being uncucked, but why did you go down that road anyway? Support https://privilegegrant.com/

Anyway, I identify as a black, one-legged woman with Ebola, so I should be getting all the perks.

[–]monzzter221 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

If different admission of standards isn't a veiled way of saying "well coloreds are stupider than whites" I don't know what is.

Now, I don't thing any race is smarter or dumber than any other. But apparently your universities do.

[–]monzzter221 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Well durr, how are coloreds supposed to git into college if we don' give them no extra points?"

And somehow that's not racist.

[–]zoinksCO 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

This stupid policy is horrible for black people as well.

Consider: Regardless of your race, your LSAT/GPA is an extremely strong predictor of how well you will do in law school(same holds true for SAT/GPA in undergrad).

If you let in people with lower LSAT/GPA, they WILL(statistically) do worse than people with higher LSAT/GPA. So you let in some people(who happen to be black) with lower scores than will succeed at these schools. Then, predictably, they do poorly, not because of their race but because of their scores.

Maybe they would do well at a good state school, but they get into a national level school and bomb. So now, the good state schools need to do the same thing, because all the people that could have gotten into them and do well are now going to national level schools and bombing. So the good state schools need to pull up people from mediocre state level schools. So now, those people they pull up have lower LSAT/GPAs than average and THEY TOO will bomb. Repeat this down the line and see how affirmative action is horrible for pretty much every black person that uses it. The only people it doesn't affect are those URMs at the very top, who would have gotten into Yale/Harvard anyway, regardless of their race.

[–]CarinusMAGA 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This rational argument is one reason why these people liked to call Antonin Scalia racist.

[–]HIVSkrillex 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This makes my blood boil

[–]cudiorCAN 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unbelievable.

[–]MajorMid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literal systemic racism.

[–]HectorBebbCOAL 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This graphic severely UNDER-REPRESENTS the boost you get as a black applicant, especially at the top schools. Black applicants with a 170 LSAT are rarer than hen's teeth. See:

http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

"In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test."

Yes, you read that right. Only 20-40 black students score 170+ on the LSAT in a given year. I'll leave it to the statistically-minded to infer what this means for black students at T14 schools.

[–]optimalodds 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a student there I want to point out Harvard is tied at#2 now. :P

Though URM (underrepresented minority) points given out are probably similar today. Hoping for favorable review of the lawsuit against Harvard College's affirmative action program.

[–]RickJamesBond 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should require pro sports to have equally represented racial groups.

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, white people are so privaleged for having to work twice as hard as minorities to get into the same college.

[–]Watch_CloselyVA 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The consensus on Top Law Schools and /r/lawschooladmissions is that an underrepresented minority will generally get admitted to law schools at about the same rate as a white student who scored 7 points higher on the LSAT (law school admission test).

In other words, a black applicant with a 170 LSAT (97th percentile) is treated about the same as a white applicant with a 177 LSAT (99.8th percentile). And a black applicant with a 160 LSAT (80th percentile) is treated about the same as a white applicant with a 167 LSAT (95th percentile).

[–]maga_hide_pussy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Affirmative action is the greatest threat to meritocracy.

[–]Dr_Propofol 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember the days when "equality" meant "treating everyone the same"

[–]boobsbr 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

wow, what do you have to do to get into Yale? have a perfect 180/4.0 score?

[–]HeroDannyMA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Happened to my friend. He wanted to go to BU, was his dream school. He worked his ass off in high school, had a 3.8 GPA, extra curricular activities, & even got a high score on the SAT's I believe he graduated 4th in his entire class. He didn't get accepted...

But you want to know who did get accepted? Number 30 in the class, decent score on SAT with extra curriculars and a 3.6 GPA. He was black. He got accepted not just to BU, but every single school he applied to.

This country is supposed to be competitive. I get it we fucked up having slaves in the past, but this is just reverse racism. Hitting white people isn't the answer. Why can't we just all be equal?

[–]UseKnowledge 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ugh, this shit.

I have brown skin but I had to check off 'White' for my application to Law School. I have a feeling people think I didn't get in on the merits even though I did.

Fuck affirmative action minority privilege horse-shit.

[–]DutchmanDavidNLD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had to check off 'White' for my application to Law School.

Why is this even a thing? "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT RACE/SKIN COLOR, BTW WHAT RACE/SKIN COLOR DO YOU HAVE?" It's absurd!

[–]MakeEmSayAyyUSA 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why I get a white or asian male doctor. That way I know they earned their jobs.

[–]COCKHITLERMA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cornell being based as always

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy hell its been a long time since I have seen that calculator

[–]eSanManefUSA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]kagami77WA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the most messed up part of the American system. **** affirmative action.

Honestly, if minorities are so "discriminated" against in America, then how come Asians do so well? Better than whites even?