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[–]cholomiteCholo Rojo 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

My LTR adds value by supporting my mission. My mission is to be the best I can be at whatever it is I am doing.

Right now that is pretty simple, she makes me lunch when I ask, gives me money when I ask, pays for our date nights out, cleans, handles the pets, lets me use her car if I have to, tries on whatever slutty stripper outfit I get her and blows me afterwards.

Your woman is there to enable you to be the best you can be and to succeed at your mission. Maybe that means the things I listed above, maybe it means other things in your life. Whatever you need to get done that you trust she can handle, have her do it and focus on a high level or more difficult task for yourself. If you really don't trust her to do anything she better be fucking hot as hell because why else keep her around?

However the important thing is that she is putting in a good amount of effort, preferably more effort than you, at least with the small things. People naturally do not respect people who put in more into a relationship than they do. Your woman NEEDS to respect you, and to get that respect you need to make sure she is adding significant value to your life, otherwise you're just a mark ass bitch who handles everything and let's her get away with nothing because you're so up her ass you'll do anything to avoid conflict and keep her around.

Honestly, everything my gf does for me I can do better. Cleaning, cooking, driving, pet care, probably even blowjobs too. But its not about just doing it because you're better, it's about letting her fulfill her purpose as a support system to a badass alpha guy.

You're on the right track with your goals. Put effort into yourself and your physical body, be fun, passionate and spontaneous and her respect and trust in you will follow.

[–]jigglydee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good response. I second this. Mine is prego at the moment, so being pretty lenient on the value she provides, but then, rearing my child is pretty valuable!

Also agree with everything here except the last task:

Cleaning, cooking, driving, pet care, probably even blowjobs...

I'm not flexible enough.

On another serious note though:

be fun

A lot of guys, me included, forget this every now and then. But I think being jovial is the best thing you can do for yourself and for your life.

[–]addictedtoyourfaceUnplugging 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

How long have you been on your journey? If it's been years, then I see your point, and maybe you should be looking for an exit strategy. If it's been less than a year, give her time to catch up to the man you've become/are becoming. If you've been worthless for a long time, and she mirrored that, she stuck with you long enough for you to change. Maybe give her the same opportunity.

To answer your question: My wife brings me joy. That's her value to me. I invest in what brings me joy.

[–]jumpingshitstorms[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point on timing! That resonates with me. Been on the journey just over a year.

[–]ChngChek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is an excellent answer with some perspective, op.

I would just add that to really lead your family unit you should have a financial vision too. Maybe you already do. But your wife can bring a lot of value (in several ways) if she is on board with your plan.

[–]mrprider 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, that is a good perspective. I have been at it for only 6 months so need to giver her some more time to catch up.

[–]redmountainpill 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've only been at this for a couple months. At first, I couldn't see any value to my wife. All I saw was a shitty harpy. After I stopped swimming in her frame, I could see she had the potential to be a very high quality wife (I asked her to marry me for a reason). This happened after about a month and a half. Now, she's pleasant company most of the time. Does she cook me dinner and blow me afterward? Never. Is she fun and exciting? Not most of the time. But why would I deserve that? I've only been working on myself for two months. I've got a lot of work to do before I can legitimately expect a fun, sexy wife who can overcome her anxieties. For now, I'm going to take the dog for a run then make dinner. The wife will catch up eventually

[–]Aechzen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The wife will catch up eventually

Or she won't, but you'll be so far ahead that you won't care anymore.

Sometimes I think that is a more likely outcome for me.

I keep seeing books like The Surrendered Wife, and First, Kill all the Marriage Counselors, and I just don't think my wife is going to get there, and ultimately I don't think my marriage will get better until she can learn to follow.

But the advice of stick with it for a while and let her get used to the new you is good advice.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

So, what you are saying, is that you want sex from a woman you trust, that respects you, wants you, has fun with you, and shows effort?

How you gonna get her there bro?

[–]jumpingshitstorms[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Actually, I'm trying to figure out why to keep her around if she offers little to no value other than sex. This list is what I would need to stay in a long term relationship. Dont mind the work just curious what effort would you require from the other party to continue to live with you and receive your "benefits" ie leadership, food, shelter, awesomeness.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

your woman you judge...

all of your examples boil down to "and sex"

why keep a given girl? Coz you like her company.

but thats just me.

But first... stop hamstering.

Why should she stay with you??

[–]jumpingshitstorms[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like how you called me a bitch without actually saying it. I like your style. Smooth stuff man. Hahaha.

Good question! When I started, I wouldn't dare try to answer it. Now it makes me smile. MRP is a life changer fellas. Jump all in!

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Faggot.

There. Happy?

:-)

[–]mrprider 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my number one questions to answer these days. Haven't found a good way to assess it yet.

[–]weakandsensitive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

why do you think you deserve better?

if you think you can do better, go and prove it.

This list is what I would need

Oh. Yeah, makes sense. I personally find needy men so attractive too.

[–]FistFullOfBitches 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your list of obsolescent items smells a lot like you're not just seeing your value increase, but almost like you're actively cutting her out and trying to go it all alone. Enjoy her fashion sense when she looks good. Let her do some child-rearing, cleaning, cooking. Just because you don;t need her to do all this stuff doesn't mean you can't let her/delegate.

My wife brings fun, good conversation, she's a good housekeeper, she's enjoyable to be around and hang out with. And even though I don't necessarily "need" it, it's nice to know that she generally supports me in my life as opposed to being critical of everything.

[–]jumpingshitstorms[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My struggle is here: I want her but I dont need her. Now that I know I dont need her, I am asking why I want her. This question stumped me. What makes her so special?

Maybe my journey was different but from where I started to where I am I feel the status quo isnt enough (ego talking lol!)

[–]sh0ckley [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

These are good points that give me perspective about what my woman generally brings to the table and especially that in some ways I have also shut her out. She's not my business partner, she's my woman and I should delegate things even if she doesn't do them as well as I do. Thanks.

[–]nlightin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look Homie, I'm in your boat. Got to this place before I knew of reddit and redpill (I'm fairly new), but here's the deal - you are likely in your twenties and even if I'm wrong the point is you have yet to experience some real life pain, e.g. death, loss of job, illness, or a life changing event as its called legally. You are running 'lean' as I call it to myself when I'm on top of my game. This is a great place to be, and should only get better as you age to be honest with you. But, your woman as the other posters have said is suppose to support you. YES, you can, I can, we can do most things if not everything better or alone but you will eventually have something happen in life where you will need her to be strong and continue to carry the torch when you are out of commission. Moreover, bro, if you really are doing everything to the extent you say you are, and she's there - you are screwing up big time because you are burning all your energy and not enjoying life they way you could. You are so occupied with doing, there's no R&R. You can't say you are relaxing and doing all those things; balance is required. That's where she comes in for support. You execute the mission and vision, she steps in to handle the menial tasks.

[–]sh0ckley [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've asked myself this question before, after getting a comfort test recently along the lines of "I feel like you only want me for sex." The test was likely prompted by my change in behavior where I stopped being a drunk captain and just started dealing with shit while also avoiding the covert contracts that she'd become accustomed to.

My reply was something like "aww baby I enjoy your company and you're easy on the eyes." After I said it, I realized I wasn't lying. Fortunately she's not so poisoned by feminism to think that a pretty girl is of only superficial value to a man.

What else does she bring to the table? Not much other than contributing financially to a lifestyle that I enjoy, but wouldn't need to be happy. However, the more self improvements I make, the better it gets.

At some point though, I will reach a peak and having entered this relationship as a beta, she may then be no longer worthy of keeping around as I continue to improve, because her perceived value of me is not likely to adjust to the new reality - that would be rational and not feminine.

Is she contributing to my mission? Not directly at all - only by being around when I am not pushing forward and by being available whenever I want to take time to relax a bit. Admittedly this is something I have trouble doing and should do more of.

Seeing the comment above and knowing that a high value man could have a woman who directly supports his mission only underscores my point about what might become even more clear when I reach a peak. MRP only fixes the man, not the marriage.

I think this is an important question to ask oneself for men that are going through these changes. Especially if the relationship started from a beta position. I need to make more leadership changes before I will have enough data to make a decision.