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Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 10:33

I played a battle with my Tiger 2 with normal ammo. I saw 2 Sherman Jumbo's so I thought, easy. I tried to shoot them but it said armor to thick. I'm like, what the hell?! The Tiger 2 can penetrate 203 mm of armor. The Sherman Jumbo doesn't have that at any place. I shot the front yes, but after a moment of shooting it also said impact angle to high. More what the hell. This is banter. The Tiger 2 can pen 203 mm of armor at 100 meter.
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Later the Jumbo Sherman actually managed to kill me in the front. I left after because this banter really pissed me off. First the US get's a weapon from the Korean war, I got proof of that in the M1/M2 thread made by Finnish Game master and now the Tiger 2 can't pen the front of a Sherman Jumbo.
This is my proof, https://gyazo.com/b0e5049fc834b617905d9c47a2e2a9bd I cannot find any place that is thicker than 203 mm. Even with the angle of armor, the Tiger 2 has a lot of extra potential penetrable armor. Hell even if the Jumbo would be 1000 meters away, the Tiger 2 should be able to pen the front of the Jumbo with my proof. What's gonna be next, the Panter can't penetrate the Hellcat? This is the first time I actually got pissed enough to leave right away.
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 10:41

So u just want to shoot anywhere and penetrate, while getting hit everywhere and dont get penetrated.

Well, no.

Now you might actually have to aim at the weakspots.

Feel the pain you never had to, but US and SU tankers had forever.

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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 10:41

Well.. I penetrated a jumbo to the front with a jumbo... aimed at the cupola...
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 10:46

아야세에리 wrote:So u just want to shoot anywhere and penetrate, while getting hit everywhere and dont get penetrated.

Well, no.

Now you might actually have to aim at the weakspots.

Feel the pain you never had to, but US and SU tankers had forever.

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You mean what I got when I play Luchs and try to shoot a Chaffie? Yes I get what you mean. And yes I did aim. I shot every place of the front of the Jumbo I could find.
Also this isn't about feeling the pain it is about realistic stats.
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 10:52

FritzFruegel wrote:You mean what I got when I play Luchs and try to shoot a Chaffie? Yes I get what you mean. And yes I did aim. I shot every place of the front of the Jumbo I could find.
Also this isn't about feeling the pain it is about realistic stats.


This is an arcade game.

We have m3 koreabine, SU fighting Allies, 3 sticky blowing up heavy tanks, in-air resupplying planes.

this game is not much realistic you know....

For the 'aim and shoot part' i was talking heavy tank specific. KT was op. And still OP.

Yes i know chaffee is op. But also is panther at med. hellcat at TD. KT at heavy.

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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 11:17

the funny thins is like KT, barely actually used in war? Had some engine troubles or something like that. Why not realism and have KT crackdown every 3 minutes hehe
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 11:24

bocaz wrote:the funny thins is like KT, barely actually used in war? Had some engine troubles or something like that. Why not realism and have KT crackdown every 3 minutes hehe


Thisis not true, Allied post war propaganda. The KT performed similar to any WW2 Era tanks.

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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 11:29

bocaz wrote:the funny thins is like KT, barely actually used in war? Had some engine troubles or something like that. Why not realism and have KT crackdown every 3 minutes hehe


Yes, lets add realism like that.

First we can start with the fact that most tanks did not have neutral steering. Which means you can't turn left/right with your tank without moving forward or in reverse at the same time. I know for certain that the T-34 did not have neutral steering.

Next, we remove radios from all Soviet tanks except the Squad Leader tank, and he can only communicate to his squad using hand or flag signals. We can implement an ingame gesture command, or a command wheel with different orders. Typing /forward will make an animated flag come up of the cupola and wave in a specific way, and other members have to visually see the flag, understand its meaning, and then hopefully do as the squad leader wants.

Or we can acknowledge that realism isn't going to happen in this game :P
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 11:29

bocaz wrote:Why not realism and have KT crackdown every 3 minutes hehe


It will be nice to see such "flavour" like crew on all open tanks and TDs like Hellcat, Wolverine or SU76M. Even when main gunner driving or shooting. Will be nice to see Shermans set afire easy and goes BOOM! after first shoot. Or had option to remove Schürzen's from Pz.IV's and STUGs because German tankers didn't like them at all or lost them after "few bushes"...
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 11:38

If you want it that realistic with hand cracking and stuff we might as well give the SU soldiers no weapon stability, very much sway, 50% less hp, no ability to run, no heavy set. Alone Mosin and PSSH as infantry level 12 level and only 5 bullets you can carry. But the Russians will have 5 times as many infantry spawns.
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 12:11

If you want realism the Tiger II should get 232mm pen with PzGr. 39 at 90° and 304mm pen with PzGr. 40 at 90°

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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 12:32

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Next, we remove radios from all Soviet tanks except the Squad Leader tank, and he can only communicate to his squad using hand or flag signals. We can implement an ingame gesture command, or a command wheel with different orders. Typing /forward will make an animated flag come up of the cupola and wave in a specific way, and other members have to visually see the flag, understand its meaning, and then hopefully do as the squad leader wants.

Or we can acknowledge that realism isn't going to happen in this game :P

LOL mate so much hate for soviet tanks

T34/85 had radios almost every single one of them had
and remember wut ur asking for since T34/85 can even pen the mantlet of the panther unlike in this game and and also remember no tank will be able to move more than 250M without breaking down and their will be 10 T34s for one panther and IS-2's 122mm canon knocking whole buildings wiht one HE shell
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 12:35

SuchIlluminati wrote:If you want realism the Tiger II should get 232mm pen with PzGr. 39 at 90° and 304mm pen with PzGr. 40 at 90°

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it had 240mm at 100M with APCR ur basis ??
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 12:53

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SuchIlluminati wrote:If you want realism the Tiger II should get 232mm pen with PzGr. 39 at 90° and 304mm pen with PzGr. 40 at 90°

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it had 240mm at 100M with APCR ur basis ??


haseebafandi wrote:also remember no tank will be able to move more than 250M without breaking down


ur basis ???

See what I did there?

Door swings both ways.

And I don't have Soviets. I'm just stating facts. I also like to get you triggered so we can hear more of your fairy tales that are based in nothing but your own fantasy.

I've yet to see you provide a single link to actual historic documents, research or resources such as documented events, first hand experiences (e.g. written in books by veterans from the war) or anything like that.

All I see is "haseebafandi magical world of Soviet uberness and fantastic inventions".
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:06

RedFoxFour wrote:
I've yet to see you provide a single link to actual historic documents, research or resources such as documented events, first hand experiences (e.g. written in books by veterans from the war) or anything like that.

All I see is "haseebafandi magical world of Soviet uberness and fantastic inventions".

so wait u want me to point out facts from books of veterans and other shizzz like that while u havent pointed out non ur self ??

the sources or websites i use as a fact use these "books" as their facts so i think they cna be taken as legit and it is still better since i have actually posted sources and unlike u who just likes to say shizzz

and mate goodluck trying to get me triggered XD
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:18

haseebafandi wrote:the sources or websites i use as a fact


I've yet to see you link or even refer to a single one of them.
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:22

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haseebafandi wrote:the sources or websites i use as a fact


I've yet to see you link or even refer to a single one of them.

so when i showed tank encyclopedia didnt that counted ??
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:27

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haseebafandi wrote:
SuchIlluminati wrote:If you want realism the Tiger II should get 232mm pen with PzGr. 39 at 90° and 304mm pen with PzGr. 40 at 90°

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it had 240mm at 100M with APCR ur basis ??


haseebafandi wrote:also remember no tank will be able to move more than 250M without breaking down


ur basis ???

See what I did there?

Door swings both ways.

And I don't have Soviets. I'm just stating facts. I also like to get you triggered so we can hear more of your fairy tales that are based in nothing but your own fantasy.

I've yet to see you provide a single link to actual historic documents, research or resources such as documented events, first hand experiences (e.g. written in books by veterans from the war) or anything like that.

All I see is "haseebafandi magical world of Soviet uberness and fantastic inventions".


Yea haseebafandi obviously doesn't know what he talks about. If Russia was so good then why did they lose 26.6 million soldiers while Germany only lost around 7 million people, while not only fighting the USSR but also the British in Africa and the US after 1944.
https://gyazo.com/b904e46e0284a18a0273662dd3c52652
https://gyazo.com/e3916004e0337145fe35153f6ec0e6cd

Obviously cus their tanks, infantry, and planes were worse. Not forgetting 1/4 soldiers had a gun, low quality such as Mosin and 1/4 had 4 bullets.

But that obviously doesn't matter.
Some facts for you Haseebafandi because you obviously live in a fantasy Russia - is - best - word.
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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:36

I did not made this video.

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Re: Tiger 2 can't pen Jumbo in front?!

Yesterday, 13:37

아야세에리 wrote:So u just want to shoot anywhere and penetrate, while getting hit everywhere and dont get penetrated.

Well, no.

Now you might actually have to aim at the weakspots.

Feel the pain you never had to, but US and SU tankers had forever.

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Have you ever played PZ4 vs E8 matches that were before Bauer build? Or better yet Spaatz build matches of Pz4 vs E8 where PZ4 needed to flank E8 always and drop 4 shots on him while E8 could frontally destroy you with 2 shots? Luchs drivers always need to aim lower glacis or flank T-70 since they cant pen front hull and turret. Like seriously did you even think clearly when you wrote that thing you weeaboo?
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