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FurriedByZootopia has just deleted his account. Thanks to Tyler. Here's the last PM he sent me. (self.zootopia)

al_frankenmuth が 投稿

EDIT: PROOF

I'm just a lurker, but I've been messaging Furried a lot lately. It was originally just about learning how to make super crisp HD gifs like his, which he was sooo helpful with, but we also talked about a lot of other things while he helped me learn Photoshop.

This is the last PM he sent me today.

Looks great man!! You left a few extra frames at the end from the next scene, but besides that its perfect. I can show you how to combine the first and last frame of the gif for a smoother loop if you want. Now you just need to rip your BluRay to a video file (with any of those programs I mentioned) and use that bigass video file to get max quality gifs like mine.

Although it sucks that your gifs might not be very appreciated if you post some here. You know how I've been getting increasing backlash for submitting gifs, mostly via PMs? WELL NOW I KNOW WHY (incoming rant, sorry bro)

I just found out Tyler is going full-tilt on a fucking anti-gif campaign... PMing tons of users about how my gifs clog up the subreddit and take things off the front page...even falsely claiming that I repost gifs.

And its working. You know I've had a ton of messages about how I need to stop REPOSTING gifs, even though EVERY one of them has been made by me... Telling me I'm a lazy karma whore for just submitting gifs, even though I put a lot of effort into each one: making them BluRay quality, tuning the lighting/contrast, the frame delay, going frame-by-frame to get the perfect starting and end points for a good loop.

Not only is it working, IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE.

I mean, yeah sure they're just looping gifs, but I think its the best way to appreciate the god-tier animation in this movie and I really love seeing the discussions about the part of the movie shown in each gif.

But I'm realllly getting sick of all the drama with Tyler and the (mostly new) members he's convinced. I thought it was just friendly banter, but he actually holds a very serious grudge against me and my gifs for some reason. Its like seeing one of my gifs at the top is taking someone else's "rightful spot" like he commented yesterday.

I could make a post about this, but to be honest, I've been losing interest in Zootopia slowly, even though I still love it to death. So with all this drama (I really hate drama) maybe I just need to quit the community so I don't get too burned out on Zootopia stuff. and before I get too annoyed with Tyler and his minions. I don't think its worth the headache.

(bolding is mine, not his)

Nice, Tyler.

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[–]--RF--Officer Nick is best Nick 42ポイント43ポイント  (14子コメント)

:( Sad to see this stuff happening in what always seemed like a tranquil sub. I hope Furried changes his mind as he was a prominent member of the community here, and I always enjoy seeing gifs from the film whether they're made by Furried, EnlistedDiabetus, or anyone else. I really hope everyone can work everything out and get it back to the way things were. Personally I'd hate to see anyone choose to retire from the sub, but I understand if people want to avoid unneeded drama. Here's to hoping this thing will boil down and blow over...

[–]Taymyth 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same. I was gonna rage post, because I personally don't care for Tyler, but wtf is the point?

[–]thatwyomingponykein Fuchs für eine Nacht 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I personally don't care for Tyler, but wtf is the point?

I agree 100%. Tyler's lack of value-added discussion leaves much to be desired. However, pointing that out often accomplishes nothing but escalating the issue.

[–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If my irritation shows im sincerely sorry.

[–]Relevant_ASB_image 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have been lurking here since the movie came out, and I have definitely noticed an increase in the amount of drama here in the past few weeks, which is unfortunate because this has been such a great community. It would be nice if we could move away from the militancy about Gifs and what's OK to ship...

[–]--RF--Officer Nick is best Nick 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well the shipping thing always seemed to be pretty obvious banter. It's not like non-shippers actually hate shippers (and vice versa) or anything like that it's always been more of an in-joke. The gif thing on the other hand seems to get more heated for some reason.

[–]Relevant_ASB_image 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes it is mostly joking, but I have noticed that art that pairs Nick or Judy with anyone else tends to get downvoted (unless it's humorous, like most of the Wilde/Savage art posted here has been)

[–]BryanShadowolfDon't worry Carrots, I'm listening! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd agree as besides these few instances of drama, We've been very good.

[–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The shipping militization will never go away xD I personally have no problem about that.

Ditto about Gif militancy tho.

[–]Kunnash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can copy and paste this message in almost any online community and people wouldn't bat an eye. People are drama, simply. Once that is accepted it's easier to brush it off or deal with it when it's a real concern.

I've seen countless "Man this community sucks." in virtually every online community I've participated in.

[–]Kittah4Warning: Plot Bunnies May Be Loose 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really hope Furried sees this post and the support for them. Harassment isn't okay and it does different things to different people.

[–]BryanShadowolfDon't worry Carrots, I'm listening! 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I couldn't agree more! I don't want to see people leave this community via Drama.

[–]CichaelGet back to your box 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm brand new to this sub, and it's really the first sub that I've ever been a part of, and seeing these kinds of things is rough. FurriedByZootopia, if you ever read this, just know that I adored your gifs and all of your hard work the minute I joined this community. If I'm the only new user to think that way, so be it. Wish you the best homie.

[–]TheHAMizationPose! 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

All of this drama because a bunch of gifs? Unbelievable.

[–]nickwildnout 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I can't even blame him for leaving if he was getting harassed that bad just for posting daily gifs. Absolutely unbelievable.

[–]TehSneakySnake 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

If the guy deleted his account, then clearly something did happen.

[–]EnlistedDiabetusMakes boring GIFs, usually Star Wars 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well I was going to post this on something suggestive, but instead I'm gonna try and lighten the mood. 'Here's hoping.

[–]ItsQGDOfficer. Friend. Brother. 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can't be on reddit without some sort of drama :/

[–]PullTogetherMy fanfic: https://goo.gl/P9fHE6 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

reddramit

[–]RockinAnakinShippingMammals' #1 Fan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

also witch hunt.

[–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is your flair comment from "Say Judy"?

[–]ProbablyNotAFurryBun is not amused. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If even a few people enjoy his content then it has a right to be posted to this sub. I don't fully understand what's going on here, but the mods need to take care of this. We just lost a very prominent person in our community. If this is swept under the rug it sets an example.

[–]lordofsurreySmall mammal, big heart baby 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can only be 100% neutral on all this as I haven't been following it, am not a very active member of this community, and scarcely know the users mentioned, but regarding all internet drama, I say this:

'When the fun stops, stop.'

Talking about Zootopia on reddit is meant to be a bit of fun. If it's not, then why bother at all?

[–]Fibrositsis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cheese and fucking crackers. This is a place I come to have a good time and escape all of the normal reddit bullshit! I don't give a flying fuck who is doing what wrong or for what reasons around here I will be damned to see this sub become a toxic boring Shitstorm when it needs to stay a care free place. Please people keep this place peaceful.

[–]Taymyth 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tylers allowed to express his opinion, but not shove it down Furried's hypothetical throat.

Furried says that hes had a ton of messenges...

You know I've had a ton of messages about how I need to stop REPOSTING gifs, even though EVERY one of them has been made by me... Telling me I'm a lazy karma whore for just submitting gifs, even though I put a lot of effort into each one: making them BluRay quality, tuning the lighting/contrast, the frame delay, going frame-by-frame to get the perfect starting and end points for a good loop.

And supposedly, Tyler encouraged these messages!

According to Reddit, this is Cyberbullying

Reddit's Cyberbullying Policy

"Harassment on Reddit is defined as systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone"

Check

"in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation"

Check. Furried didnt think Reddit was a safe platform for his ideas, so he left.

I mainly just want him back. I blame Tyler for his departure. If my irritation shows a little bit... im sincerely sorry

[–]deepvoicefluttershyI can say cute, I have a lot of bunny friends 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We have to make a couple of assumptions to arrive at the cyberbullying conclusion. The biggest assumption is that Tyler's intentions in PMing other users was to have them PM harassment to Furried by proxy. Tyler very well could've PM'd a bunch of users and said "Man I really hate that Furried guy and his stupid gifs", intending only to discuss the phenomenon with them (or for misguided self-validation, or whatever). If he didn't conclude those messages with "...so you should probably PM him and make him feel like shit or something", then he's just an asshole, not a cyberbully. The cyberbully theory makes him out to be this troll mastermind, rallying a bunch of users and utilizing them to harass his victim. Tyler's a bit melodramatic, I feel, but I find it difficult to picture him trying to build an army of trolls to fuck with a user he's publicly claimed to like.

I think the truth of all this is probably somewhere in the middle. Here's my hypothesis. Tyler, while not intending to bully Furried, probably did send some shitty messages about him to other users, perhaps hoping to sway the subreddit to value gifs less and other types of content more (which is a fair objective). Those users, acting carelessly but of their own accord, PM'd Furried some dickish nonsense. I think that the number of PM's was probably lower than what most people would call "a ton", but Furried openly stated he has a low tolerance for drama, so it felt like a ton to him (which is a fair reaction). With this weighing on him, catalyzing his gradual loss of active interest in the film, he deleted his account, and here we are.

If my hypothesis is true, does that make Tyler's original PM's wrong? Should he be admonished for spreading his opinion in that manner? Perhaps; it was sorta backhanded and immature (compared to, say, an open text-post about trying to limit gifs, or reaching out to Furried directly). But should he be demonized to this extent? I don't think so. He also contributes to the sub quite a bit, after all, and is generally pretty friendly. Currently, anything he says, even simple, pleasant observations or reactions, are instantly and grossly downvoted. At the very least, this sort of vigilantism should be held off until we see some proof of Tyler's actions.

Just my two cents.

[–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your 2 damn cents are worth millions xD

Its just... /u/Tyler needs to come out with evidence, or come clean. Not just constantly claim hes tired about drama (and oddly enough not sleep (I told him to go to sleep and he was like nah) even though its like super early morning in Sweden) and repeat everything he's said again, and again.

[–]FentanLegoPopActual Faux 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I always wondered. Who the heck is Tyler?

[–]Chengweiyingji(Unofficial) God of Shipping 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

The guy under us in the comments.

V

[–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The buffalo-flaired guy named tyler xD

[–]Elite386Zootopia: Crisis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

God damn. This really makes me sad. Whatever the reason it may be that he left, he was one hell of a person. I hadn't spoken to him very much, but I did appreciate his work. Our last conversation was actually related to the matter in the PM to OP. If you are reading this, thanks for all the amazing posts man.

Thank you for contributing to this community I love.

You will be missed, and I hope you are ok.

[–]peaky2Larry 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope they come back if they see this! While it is a rather small issue it's something that others could've helped with rather than just leaving. But, they're still entitled to their decision. This sub could always use more people!

[–]hmm9001 6ポイント7ポイント  (33子コメント)

Ok. Guys we have no proof but this guys word. This is hearsay, don't turn on Tyler because of something someone said that they haven't backed up.

If this is true I believe there should be action taken, but until it's proven I stand with Tyler. He's guilty of nothing, this is the word of a stranger targeting a person who is unfairly targeted on this sub. If evidence cannot be presented this is merely slander and should be removed.

Edit: Based on evidence presented this is not slander. OP is relaying what Furried said and this is a serious issue. The mods should step in at this point and handle it. Please do not harass Tyler, remember that he is innocent until proven guilty. It's not up to us to determine his guilty, that should be the mods responsibility.

[–]al_frankenmuth[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

The only proof I can give is screenshots of the messages

http://i.imgur.com/yaOyvi1.png

http://i.imgur.com/iSk3xMH.png

The only further proof we could give is if Furried comes back, but how do we know its really him, if so? Just brainstorming here

[–]hmm9001 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Alright. Well this needs serious and objective consideration. It should be brought to the mods, they can have Tyler tell his side and it should be up to them how to proceed.

I still stand by Tyler's innocents but at least we know you aren't lying. Tyler's guilt or innocents should be up to those that run this sub. I would be willing to stand with Tyler in a civil discussion of these events, but this does appear to have some weight as a case now.

[–]Taymyth 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

We have the equivalent of Tylers dead body on a platter at this point

[–]hmm9001 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is not a funny situation nor is it something to celebrate. Your attitude It's ridiculous and you're just harassing someone now.

[–]Taymyth 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know its not a funny situation.

Tylers allowed to express his opinion, but not shove it down Furried's hypothetical throat.

Furried says that hes had a ton of messenges...

You know I've had a ton of messages about how I need to stop REPOSTING gifs, even though EVERY one of them has been made by me... Telling me I'm a lazy karma whore for just submitting gifs, even though I put a lot of effort into each one: making them BluRay quality, tuning the lighting/contrast, the frame delay, going frame-by-frame to get the perfect starting and end points for a good loop.

And supposedly, Tyler encouraged these messages!

According to Reddit, this is Cyberbullying

Reddit's Cyberbullying Policy

"Harassment on Reddit is defined as systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone"

Check

"in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation"

Check. Furried didnt think Reddit was a safe platform for his ideas, so he left.

I mainly just want him back. I blame Tyler for his departure. If my irritation shows a little bit... im sincerely sorry

[–]hmm9001 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I understand, this whole situation has made me a little on edge. Sorry if I snapped at you, but like you said this is a very serious issue.

[–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. Its a super serious situation.

Daaaaamn. A resolved situation! (Us being mad at eachother temporarily?) How often does that happen? :D

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    [–]Taymyth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I never said it was a good thing

    [–]--RF--Officer Nick is best Nick 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    ^ I hope we can avoid demonizing anyone and let those directly affected resolve the matter

    [–]hmm9001 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    People already want to demonize Tyler because he disagrees with them. Playful banter is one thing, but this is deliberate targeting without evidence. It's disgusting and in direct contrast to the attitude which made me join this sub.

    [–]--RF--Officer Nick is best Nick 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well Furried did delete his account so I believe that negative feedback to his posts caused him to choose to leave, but even so I seriously doubt Tyler's goal was to make him leave and I feel sorry for Tyler for the many downvotes he might get from this. Hopefully we don't lose two members of the community over this.

    [–]thefonz46Lurker turned Poster 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Furried hasn't shown any signs of really getting mad at Tyler as well. If anything the comments seemed like he wanted to post more.

    His gifs get plenty of upvotes and supportive comments so I really don't know who was dming him.

    [–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Nobody smart would publicly declare an unpopular opinion. Unless, one theyre stubborn like me (thanks mom!), or they have a higher status in the community.

    [–]thefonz46Lurker turned Poster 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Kittah did that on a Mead post and he's an intelligent person.

    [–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I said that wrong xD lemme go edit that

    [–]thefonz46Lurker turned Poster 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Status doesn't really change anything. Kittah got around 100+ downvoted because of his opinion.

    [–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well, he has upvotes to spare.

    Just saying that he's probably a lot less scared than I would be if I wasnt a stubborn son of a great mom.

    Love ya /u/Kittah4

    [–]Kittah4Warning: Plot Bunnies May Be Loose 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ha! "A" Mead post ;)

    I kind of can't wait till JiD is over and I write a huge manifesto on it that probably gets slammed into the mud.

    [–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds fun! XD Ill help lol

    [–]Kittah4Warning: Plot Bunnies May Be Loose 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    (coughs). :P

    [–]Taymyth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh hi Kittah! Good to see your lively! XD

    [–]al_frankenmuth[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

    We also have the fact that he deleted his account out of nowhere, in the middle of all of this gif drama. There is a lot of proof in tyler's comments if he hasn't deleted them or edited them.

    And any regulars know that this is (or if you don't believe, seems very close to) Furried's writing

    Furried, if you see this, come back and prove this? I don't know how he would even prove it's him though

    [–]thefonz46Lurker turned Poster 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Furried wasn't even involved in this drama. And he literally said that Carnivora was overreacting.

    https://imgur.com/a/hIGm4

    [–]al_frankenmuth[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Apparently he was (just proof of the OP)

    Also, he hated drama and hated to argue on the actual subreddit. Which is why I assume he was keeping it light in the comments but being more open in PMs... which he tried to do with tyler

    [–]hmm9001 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Tyler being an ass in the comments proves nothing, it's banter pure and simple. Hell I've been an ass. Neither does the fact the Furried deleted his account as he could have done that for any number of reasons.

    You have claimed Furried PMed you yet have shown no proof of that claim. And that Tyler messaged users to harass Furried, again something you have shown no evidence to back up.

    The burden of proof is on you. You are the accuser here.

    [–]al_frankenmuth[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Here is your proof:

    http://i.imgur.com/yaOyvi1.png

    http://i.imgur.com/iSk3xMH.png

    [–]tyler980908Whaaat is up.. DRAMAALERT NATION -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Why would I ever tell people to harass someone else? Just bcuz I disagree to agree with some people here, does not make me wanna harass and attack people. Im no mean person at all, I hate fighting, honestly... My personallity is just... how it is... I always say what I feel, no matter how harsh. In Sweden you grow up to always tell the truth, and always say what you truly feel, it's just what we do here, lying makes me feel like a piece of shit, a small lie is fine. But no big ones.

    And I don't wanna tell anyone about it bcuz I don't want to argue with even more people.

    Take Vioven for example, we fought alot in April I think, and after, it's like it never happend, I did not quote on quote fight Vioven, it was all banter. Sure he pissed me off, but I never got truly angry, and I know that he did not to.... I hope.

    [–]Kittah4Warning: Plot Bunnies May Be Loose 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I don't think you take your posts with proper gravitas at times, and your current flair proves this. You can't affect how other people feel about things, and raising up an "army" for whatever purpose, whether it be against gifs or whatever, will cause some people to act foolishly even if you don't control them.

    [–]tyler980908Whaaat is up.. DRAMAALERT NATION -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    My flair text is only a joke... Plus I DID NOT raise an "army" to harass Furried. You will see tommorow I promise you that.

    [–]Kittah4Warning: Plot Bunnies May Be Loose 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The point is, your obstructiveness about your feelings on issues, your unwillingness to talk to people about things, and most of all your repeatedly just telling people you're tired, makes it hard to root for you.

    That and even if you don't think you've raised an "army", you might have people, lurkers or what have you that are on your side that have targeted Furried with YOUR opinions, feeling emboldened by the fact that you're quite a prolific poster.

    [–]Relevant_ASB_image 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I too would like to see some proof of this... if PMs were really sent out to a bunch of people, then there should be a bunch of people with proof to show.

    [–]lucminaxNot a furry, just a huge fan & WildeHopps hardcore shipper 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think we have reasons to target anyone out of this. Let's just cool down... No need to hate either of them.

    [–]deepvoicefluttershyI can say cute, I have a lot of bunny friends 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

    I don't know the extent of Tyler's harassment, if indeed there was any. Tyler's PMs may be damning and I'm not trying to discredit OP. but for the sake of preventing a witchhunt, I'd just like to point out three facts:

    • Furried made the choice to delete his account, and there are other ways of attempting to deal with harassment on reddit
    • Furried said in the above quote, "I've been losing interest in Zootopia slowly"
    • Tyler is allowed to express his opinion in PMs.

    [–]Taymyth 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Furried said hes sick of drama. First and foremost. Losing interest is a side product of that.

    Tylers allowed to express his opinion, but not shove it down Furried's hypothetical throat.

    Furried says that hes had a ton of messenges...

    You know I've had a ton of messages about how I need to stop REPOSTING gifs, even though EVERY one of them has been made by me... Telling me I'm a lazy karma whore for just submitting gifs, even though I put a lot of effort into each one: making them BluRay quality, tuning the lighting/contrast, the frame delay, going frame-by-frame to get the perfect starting and end points for a good loop.

    According to Reddit, this is Cyberbullying

    Reddit's Cyberbullying Policy

    "Harassment on Reddit is defined as systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone"

    Check

    "in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation"

    Check. Furried didnt think Reddit was a safe platform for his ideas, so he left.

    [–]deepvoicefluttershyI can say cute, I have a lot of bunny friends 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Furried said hes sick of drama. First and foremost. Losing interest is a side product of that.

    That's possible, but that's not how I read it. He's describing Tyler's nonsense and his waning interest as two coincidental factors (or, at least, the relationship between the two factors is ambiguous.)

    I'll respond to the rest of your point in your top-level comment.

    [–]ebolawakens 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No! We don't need this to become youtube with their Tmartin's and Kuntstars and shit.

    [–]thefonz46Lurker turned Poster -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    /u/al_frankenmuth You claim to have messages and that you can access them yet you haven't posted any visual proof.

    Either this convo actually happened or you're just trying to start a fight with Tyler.

    [–]al_frankenmuth[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This convo actually happened

    http://i.imgur.com/yaOyvi1.png

    http://i.imgur.com/iSk3xMH.png

    [–]Kunnash -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If the GIFs continually got up votes that proves that they were well received. It's the way the site works. To quote:

    As a general rule, vote up what you liked (and want to see more of) and vote down what you disliked (and don't want to see similar things in the future) -- there's really not much else to it. A subjective 'ton' of messages complaining says nothing compared to the actual up votes.

    Such PMs would be inappropriate I'd imagine though, since everyone is free to down vote something they feel is not interesting.

    That doesn't excuse harassment if it happened, however it's an objective measure of how the GIFs were received.

    [–]Taymyth 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I wouldnt blame him

    [–]NDR700Wild for Wilde 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well he posted the PM so what's your response to that?

    [–]Taymyth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "YAAAAAAAAAAY! Words I can look at that arent a raging tyler" xD

    [–]tuxwonder1 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No offense, but this is pointless drama. It would be best to accept that something happened and delete the post. People who want to see what the sub has to offer are currently going to see people fighting over who said what and when without enough information. Just my two cents.

    [–]Kunnash -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well with the way Reddit works, that is what down vote is for is it not?

    [–]Kunnash -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Let me make it clear I do not think harassment is okay.

    Expressing an opinion obnoxiously is merely obnoxious. No one made this person delete their account. That cannot be repeated enough.

    Did the GIFs get upvotes? Well, then that proves their merit does it not? That is how this site works as far as I understand. Vote with your up or down votes; it's really quite simple. Edit: If true, the conduct with PMs to rally support would be bad, but this is all hearsay. Either way, no one "caused" someone to delete their account.

    I've seen that before, with a talented artist 'quitting' in other communities because a few people of thousands complain. Drama is only drama if people allow it to be as such.

    There's a very simple rule to follow: one person's actions do not excuse another person's actions. If the feedback was obnoxious against GIFs, that doesn't make freaking out about it and deleting the account reasonable. Only the person deleting the account alone is responsible for that.

    [–]nondescript99 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you guys have some fuckin issues

    seirously if some troglodyte behind a computer screen on the internet -- that doesn't even know you in reality, let me point out -- is giving you shit, then just ignore him and "Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha".

    god damn, if you're going to be on the internet, where people can say whatever they want, growing some slightly thicker skin, rather than starting random bullshit drama and trying to start up a hugbox (LAmfaO at this notion btw), is imperative

    [–]Lokio27 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    this subreddit has no chill :)