[Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?

SkinnySweaty · 9時間前

You are misinterpreting the PROBLEM here, and only seeing it from your solipsistic perspective.

RP believes it is a problem that they cannot get laid. We over at BP could give two shakes of a dead rat's ass that you cannot get laid. That's your personal business, I don't really want to be a part of it.

The PROBLEM that BP sees is the rampant sexism and occasional misogyny that is spewing like a broken sewage pipe from TRP and the manosphere, and that is what we are addressing.

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futurecrazycatlady · 17時間前

I think the BP people are more open to the idea that dating isn't a puzzle you can solve by doing a specific set of things, but more something that's dependant on the situation/personal preferences.

I could tell a man to grow a beard because I think he'd look better that way, but if he and his new beard hit the town and the girls he's approaching have a thing against facial hair it's not going to help him much.

I'm not going to deny that some things like 'be clean, dress in clothes that fit you and suit your body type' are universal. But I think that people might underestimate the amount of people that consider that common knowledge/just the basics. If you think it's something everyone knows, you're not going to feel the need/think about writing it all down.

Then there's the fact that a lot of things that make someone attractive to someone else, are things you can't wrap up in useful advice. If you want to work on a point scale, there are things that could bump someone up by let's say 2 or 3 points, that are hugely subjective.

To give an example, I end up dating/falling for the people who I have eye contact with at the right times. For me that means the person I exchange a quick glance with, when we both hear someone else say something that's incredibly stupid. What I consider to be incredibly stupid is in most cases a personal judgement, not a fact.

Even if I spell out all the things I think are stupid, it's not going to help a guy get with someone else, because those girls might not care about the glances, or they have their own set of things they disagree with.

Sandralees · 19時間前

What you are looking for does not exist. There is no mystery, no conspiracy, no universal rule or solution to help you approach members of the opposite sex.

We are people and some are motivated by one thing or some by other things. You can only find out by talking to them one on one.

If you find dating difficult, find a therapist whom you can talk to so you can get some advices specific to your own situation.

neverbesmall · 7時間前

Blue Pill does have a philosophy.

The primary bit that makes you a good partner is how well you're willing to treat your partner. Are you going to be kind to them, listen to them, work towards common goals, love them, work through problems, take their thoughts into account, let them know how much you mean to them, try to get to know all of them, and let them know all of you, etc, etc.

TRP tells you that's a bunch of horseshit and that people make decisions based completely upon what is best for the, not emotionally, but in practical ways. No woman is going to choose the 5'10'' dude making 50k a year with no talents and an average body over any one of the following:

1.) a 6'5'' dude

2.) someone making 100k+ a year

3.) Someone that has a skill that makes her excited, and makes her look good by association

4.) Someone who is ripped to shreds

5.) Someone with extremely wealthy parents

Assuming, of course, that all their other attributes are at least near average. He can't be making 100k a year and be 5'2'' and some shade of brown.

bonerdude420 · 19時間前

You can criticize somebody without the responsibility of offering an alternative.

Having said that, I'd like to see a bluepill advise reddit, I thinks it's a good idea

Princeso_Bubblegum · 11時間前

We don't have to.

It's perfectly valid for me to criticize all I want and never offer alternative solutions.

rulenumber303 · 16時間前

Because BP advice is all over the place and TRPs deliberately ignore it. That's why they became TRPs in the first place. They didn't want to get up from the computer games and go find real life friends to become a better balanced person with better social skills. They didn't want to become easy going. They didn't want to do normal amounts of physical activity. I'm fucking done with trying to package the advice in a way that seems different... I'm fucking done with sparing their feelings. Go do the stuff all the responsible adults think teenage boys should do to develop socially. Stop doing the social equivalent of becoming obese then boasting to us you're doing Mastercleanse.

The information has always been there, it is why most of the sexually successful guys are successful, I do not intend repackaging it for you as that one weird trick.

bunker_man · 18時間前

I don't get what is even being asked. You don't need an alternative to the pseudoscience and bizarre sexism. You can lift and practice acting confident without being fueled by negative emotions and selfishness.

chickywithaheart · 18時間前

Because this hasnt been asked 100's of times. Red Pills all about game and control. BLUE PILL MAKES FUN of the petty control issues and plans to contol all the wimminz pu$$y. I think anyone who asks this is already waaaayy off point in that this isnt even a thought on Blue Pills subreddit. We just dont think that way.

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bxdiplomat · 7時間前

Things no one tells you about dating advice… Most people don’t know what they are doing, and the others are recycling old advice.

Most guys are not master pimps, Ovid’s ars amatoria which came out in 2 AD is the oldest book I seen about dealing with women.

https://www.amazon.com/Art-Love-Modern-Library-Classics/dp/0375761179/

The non-prefect bullet proof plan aka rules of thumbs

Here is a Do Not list:

Don’t a needy crybaby
Don’t be a slob
Don’t be a Punk.
Don’t be be in your head when talking to other people, thinking about yourself.
Don’t be boring

Some paraphrase from Robert Green art of seduction:

Don’t be quick to fall in love with every person you see.
Don’t be a cheap ass
Don’t be a buzz kill
Don’t be too sensitive
Don’t be a windbag
Don’t be self-conscious

But the chiche “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” still stands

People have an idea what they are looking for and they quickly deicide, as fuck up as it may be…. “Do you add more than you take away from my life”

You can’t negotiate nor force someone to like you. You are not made for everyone to like you. If you two don’t match then so fucking what.

In the end you have to… trigger warning: Be yourself, if you’re a bum, then be a better version of yourself.

And mess with the girls that like you, forget the rest of them.

Common Sense and trial and error should be enough to guide you. If not, then try doing the inverse.

If you smell, wash your ass.
If you are fat, eat clean and be active.
If you’re a punk, be bold.
If you talk too much, STFU.

GroovyEFS · 17時間前

TBP already has an ideology. If you simply read their posts you'll see it clear as day. Here's a clue: see what happens if you say you're not a feminist.

VermiciousKnidzz · 9時間前

asking this question shows to me that you dont understand that BP exists as a reaction to the stark misogyny of Red Pill.

que the usual answer for these threads of "Red Pill is correct that confidence and self care is important and great, but the misogyny of Red Pill is where the fault lies."

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FatTaker · 6時間前

Isn't the alternative TBP offers essentially shaming terpers out of being RP.? The goal is to stop people from believing offensive things, not to help them. An alternative to TRP would be nice, though. But whatever, I think I found it.

winterrider · 5時間前

It is a good question. I don't agree with everything I see in the Red Pill, but at the end of the day there is NO real alternative for men who want to become better at attracting women.

I went to church every Sunday, I was a "good" Christian who would "make a great catch" for some "lucky" girl. I listened, I was nice and respectful. I did all the "right" things to do according to the blue pill and polite society. As a result I ended up the absolute last person in my social circle to lose their virginity. While every woman told me I was a great catch, they and none of their friends were ever interested in dating me.

I started reading PUA and red pill advice and applying it. I an not an expert PUA by any stretch but my inner and outer games are both about 500% better than my blue pill days.

The problem I and other guys have with the blue pill is your advice is garbage when you do give advice. There is really no effective alternative to pickup and red pill advice.

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