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[–]espo619 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

I increasingly worry about the forces in America that this man is unleashing. This isn't over in November.

[–]VacationAwayFromWork [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Majority of his voters (in Nc poll) already believe the election will be rigged and now he's "just joking" in encouraging someone to shoot Hillary

What could go wrong.

[–]Homerpaintbucket [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I can see this going two ways. 1. Trumps supporters whine on the internet and most realize they were following someone who is drastically out of step with most Americans. 2. There are a few terrorist attacks from Trump supporters on targets they believe are somehow representative of the federal government. This will bring overwhelming disapproval down on them, like Tim McVeigh did with the militias in the 90's, and the GOP will finally come back to reality.

[–]Kharn0 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It'll be like the Whiskey Rebellion, but Trump.

[–]Scoutster13 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I'm increasingly worried about all the wingnuts supporting this guy - it's god dam frightening to see the dumbing down of America at work like this.

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    [–]satosaison [スコア非表示]  (95子コメント)

    The quote is as bad/worse than the headline makes it sound:

    By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks,” he then added. “Though the Second Amendment folks, maybe there is, I don't know.”

    Edit - Oh god. It is worse in video

    Edit 2 - Trump Campaign has already responded, you can all watch the video and form your own opinions.

    TRUMP CAMPAIGN STATEMENT ON DISHONEST MEDIA

    “It’s called the power of unification – 2nd Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power. And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won’t be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump.” - Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor

    [–]Hjeltepojk [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    If she gets to pick her judges

    In other words, if she is elected

    There is nothing you can do folks

    The people will have nothing that they can do to influence her nominations and in turn their decisions. If she gets elected, it's over, she will act without regard to the opposition.

    Although [for] the second amendemt people maybe there is I dont know

    There is something that the second amendment people, individuals or groups who support gun ownership can do that other people cannot do and that is effective even after an election win/nomination.

    Tell you what, that will be a horrible day

    Whatever happens in the above scenario is "a horrible day" in his perspective, the outcome is bad.

    If he was referring to lobbyists preventing any action, it would not be a horrible day and it would go counter to his previous point that once she is elected she will act without consideration of the opposition.

    The only thing that prevents an elected Clintons nominated justices from enacting their legislation, relates directly to the second amendment and would be considered "a horrible day" is an assassination of either Clinton herself or a justice. There is no getting out of this one.

    [–]Naggers123 [スコア非表示]  (22子コメント)

    The follow up is just garbled nonsense as well

    Now speaking to the NRA folks, who are great: when you, when you, and I tell you, so they endorsed me. They endorsed me very early. My sons are members. I’m a member. If you, we can add, I think the National Rifle Association, we can add the Second Amendment to the justices, they almost go, in a certain way, hand and hand. Now the justices are going to do things that are so important. And we have such great justices. You saw my list of eleven that have been vetted and respected and have gotten great, and they, a little bit, equate.

    What the actual fuck does this mean. Do you think he was panicking?

    [–]satosaison [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

    This is how he sounds in all of his speeches. They are literally just word vomit.

    [–]hugga4u [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

    How did you guys pick this mentally retarded orange cum stain out of 320 million people...

    [–]Vormhats_Wormhat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    He's an ignorant racist. Our country has a lot of ignorant racists that are tired of being told they shouldn't be racist.

    Finally somebody on TV is telling people it's OK to be a fucking moron and all the fucking morons ate that shit up like Cheerios.

    [–]I_was_serious [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    They could've come up with someone more qualified using Powerball.

    [–]Pam_Olivers_Wig [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    a part of america is really racist and they've been pining for decades for someone, anyone, to take up their cause. even if its a sentient cheeto

    [–]_Yums_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Republicans are fucking idiots.

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        [–]thisstoryisBS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

        I think every action he's taken since the primary has been pure panic. This guy has no idea how to amplify what he did in the primaries so he's repeating against rational arguments. All of his responses suggest he's desperately looking for sanctuary in a conservative America that wants nothing to do with the establishment that retreads the same fucking failed solutions. Trump looked like a different politician for better or worse when this whole thing started. Today he looks fittingly like the natural devolution for the party of Palin and Ryan. I don't get how they thought turning so very far to the right was a good idea. How did that work for the last two elections?

        [–]MadDogTannen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

        He's been speaking this way throughout the whole campaign. It seems to be his rhetorical style. The conspiracy theorist in me says he's doing it on purpose so that his quotes don't make sense in print or read from transcripts by journalists, so the media have no choice by to present the raw footage, which puts his face and voice in front of the public more often. But the rational person in me knows that this is giving Trump way too much credit, and he's simply an inarticulate fool.

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          [–]tartay745 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          If this was a normal citizen calling for this in a public arena the secret service would be paying them a visit.

          [–]Forgot_The_Safe_Word [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

          That look of dismay on the old bearded man's face.

          [–]jlew24asu[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

          https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/763096598238883840

          [–]thats_bone [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

          This type of GOP rhetoric is extremely problematic and its what led to the assassination attempt on Gabby Giffords. It is really becoming time to rethink the 2nd amendment.

          And this is also from the same candidate who asked Russia to participate in the hacking of a United States Secretary of State. Extremely dangerous.

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            [–]treehuggerguy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

            The smile on his wife's face implies that she wants him to do it.

            [–]Decon-III [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            I took it as them being two, old, too-old-to-have-any-fucks-to-give liberals there for kicks based on their reactions.

            I'm probably wrong, but I can dream.

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              [–]PimpNinjaMan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              Damn. You can even see some people in the background realizing exactly what he's calling for (namely the bearded guy in the red shirt to the right).

              [–]Decon-III [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

              Edit 2 - Trump Campaign has already responded, you can all watch the video and form your own opinions.

              I fuckin' love all the Trumpsplaining his supporters have to do every time he speaks.

              [–]Archz714 [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

              I was thinking he meant using NRA lobby powers or funds, but it's pretty obvious once you see the video what he meant

              [–]Frankocean2 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

              Yeah this is the kinda thing that people may spin it like "oh he was talking about lobbyists" BULL FUCKING SHIT. He knew what he said, he quickly change the subject.

              I would concede that he didnt call for her assasination but he did said "welp, gun folks might shoot her". which is equally stupid.

              [–]Minguseyes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest ?

              Stupid is enough when you are talking to stupid people.

              [–]riptydeco [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              "Look, I was just saying people should shoot in the general direction of the White House. If she happens to get in the way of a bullet, it'll be her own fault."

              [–]MasterGrok [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

              Me too. Giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. Never again.

              [–]satosaison [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

              r/the_donald in 2017 if he wins:

              look, he has only exterminated several thousand religious minorities, aren't you guys being a little hasty with the Hitler comparisons.

              [–]Lews-Therin-Telamon [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

              Actually it will be:

              FDR had Japanese internment camps and Eisenhower deported illegals by the thousands!

              Trump is following in the traditions of great presidents! #MAGA

              [–]satosaison [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

              Yo, but seriously. I spent a lot of my time in college studying genocide. People look back and wonder how it could ever happen, how could a population ever succumb to someone like Hitler? The truth? They were all incredibly anti-Semitic and were predisposed to hate the Jews. They believed were responsible for rapes, and murders, that they brought disease, that they were ruining their country. So when someone proposed laws initially restricting them in minor ways, the operation of their business, removing their status as full citizens, everyone was on board. And it generated a feedback loop, where people supported more and more draconian policies until you get to the final solution. I see a number of parallels with the demonization of Muslims and Mexicans. They are dangerous, they bring terrorism, they are rapists, they are a drain on society. You see the same thing in Rwanda, you see the same thing in Armenia. Politically popular exploitation of a demonized minorty groups can quickly spiral out of control.

              [–]Lews-Therin-Telamon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              Luckily, it looks like Trump is heading for a beat down in November. But his central promise will remain in the minds of millions of Americans. That is where the real danger is.

              [–]stupid-rando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              People look back and wonder how it could ever happen, how could a population ever succumb to someone like Hitler?

              Yeah, I think we're all beginning to understand now.

              [–]physicalsecuritydan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              I appreciate this post. Thanks.

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                [–]Crippled_Giraffe [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                That's not very believable. People on that sub aren't nearly that well spoken.

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                  [–]coffeespeaking [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  The audience's reaction makes it clear they understood that to mean shoot, not vote.

                  [–]nate077 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  Also, he followed it up by implying Clinton had Scalia killed so as to rhetorically position his brand of political violence as legitimate revenge.

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                    [–]ItsJustAJokeLol [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                    There is no question that he meant after the election, if we lose, you should murder Hillary, her allies in the Senate, and/or her judicial nominees.

                    [–]xHeero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    I agree that it's quite obvious how he meant it. Just from how he said it. And then consider the fact that he is Donald Trump and it's just more obvious. It's such a Trump move.

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                      [–]buttsoupsteve [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      I know if I were trying to rally people to unify behind me, I'd end my sentence with " ...maybe, I don't know" too. Talk about inspirational.

                      [–]223SWYamhillSt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Jason Miller must have to drink heavily after every work day.

                      [–]dtz12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      you know the most damning evidence that trump meant what we think he said is the speed with which his PR person put out an official statement and straight away went for an ad hominem against the "dishonest media." that screams like they knew trump just about crossed the line there and quickly wanted to do damage control.

                      [–]tau-lepton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Maybe Jason does not understand that she cannot appoint judges before being elected.

                      [–]stuthulhu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won’t be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump.” - Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor

                      Yeah, but not in a scenario after Hillary is elected and picking her judges, so I don't know how the response relates to the original comment.

                      [–]LD50-Cent [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Except, his statement was directly about after Hillary wins and is appointing judges. So it can't possibly mean that 2nd amendment fans will vote against her.

                      [–]CryloRen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      even the crowd was like....."uhhhhh"

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                        [–]aggie1391 [スコア非表示]  (69子コメント)

                        He says it specifically in the context of a Clinton victory. Not regarding the election, but in a scenario where she is appointing judges. Holy shit.

                        [–]elliott_stabler [スコア非表示]  (36子コメント)

                        That's the kicker. I was thinking it was over blown until it was put in context. Then it's obvious what he meant. He's not talking about 2nd amendment supporters voting, he's talking about what they have to do after she wins.

                        [–]zombo_pig [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                        If this is the way that the 2nd Amendment is used in 2016 - to support tyranny in the face of democracy - then it has reversed its meaning.

                        [–]sausage_ditka_bulls [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        he even had the balls to mention Scalia. Wonder if he ever even read the Heller decision? (I highly doubt it)

                        [–]weevil_boy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Many people tell me that Trump thought Scalia was a pasta dish until a few weeks ago.

                        [–]ItsJustAJokeLol [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                        These people would be swiftly put down if they did try their armed insurrection. I am no fan of the increasing militarization of the police, but if there is a group of armed people attempting to assassinate or terrorize the country to its will in defiance of an election, I would look forward to seeing it swiftly and utterly destroyed.

                        [–]drfsrich [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        ... And then they'd complain about "tyranny," because they're fucking insane. See the idiot hillbillies that took over that nature reserve.

                        [–]Signal2NoiseRatio [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        I'd prefer the Oregon Standoff solution: surround them, wait them out, take out the hot head who wanted to die anyways, put the rest in jail with zero harm during arrest, and let the retards put themselves on display for the idiots they are as a lesson to others and avoid martyrdom.

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                            [–]dudewiththepuns [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                            This blows my mind.

                            [–]superscatman91 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                            Not nearly as much as he wants it to blow hers

                            [–]Mike_Aurand [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            This kills the president.

                            [–]VitruvianMonkey [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            Eh, the Godfather doesn't do the killing. He sends out his flunkies for that. Someone watch /r/the_donald carefully...

                            [–]Mike_Aurand [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                            While his statement is vile in and of itself, can we also remember that the substance of what he’s saying is blatantly false? Hillary Clinton has never once espoused an intention to repeal the second amendment.

                            [–]elliott_stabler [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            Not to mention the fact that the president can't actually repeal the second amendment, nor can the supreme court for that matter.

                            [–]nate077 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                            Also, why would it be 'a terrible day' if 2nd Amendment supporters went out and opposed her by voting?

                            More telling is that he followed it up by implying Clinton had Scalia killed so as to rhetorically position his brand of political violence as legitimate revenge.

                            [–]Firetrucker [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                            No, no, he was talking about how unified 2nd Amendment Folks are, like the Rotary Club or the Mafia and how they would stop Clinton after she was elected by... um... means... and ways...

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                              [–]nate077 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                              Also, he followed it up by implying Clinton had Scalia killed so as to rhetorically position his brand of political violence as legitimate revenge.

                              To anyone that tries to argue that he meant opposing her through legal means, why would legal opposition herald 'a terrible day?'

                              [–]Elryc35 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Yeah, I just read the full remarks. The fact that he insinuated the assassination of a Supreme Court Justice isn't the most deplorable thing he said in that 30 seconds...I mean, what the almighty fuck!?

                              [–]last_picked [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

                              My fear is that he is sowing the seeds of dissent now, with the odds of him winning the election not looking favorable. In hopes that if he loses, and it isn't a blow out, he can gather his following and push them to violently rebel.

                              [–]lost_thought_00 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                              Thankfully, Trump doesn't strike me as the type of person who would put in the effort to lead anything like that, so the worst case is we see a bunch of unorganized dildonian uprisings that are easily managed

                              [–]Crippled_Giraffe [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                              He will just post a series unhinged rants on Twitter.

                              The scary part is that part of his following is unhinged themselves and those rants can push them to do something crazy.

                              [–]ghostalker47423 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                              Exactly. He can rile people up, stoke the fires, and then claim no responsibility if someone does something rash.

                              It's certainly within his MO.

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                                [–]thatnameagain [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                No matter how big a margin he loses by, he will definitely claim the vote was rigged.

                                [–]last_picked [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                I definitely agree, I think the factor that determines how big and violent the back lash will be. Will be based on how large the margin is that he loses by.

                                [–]paxtanaa [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                I don't believe Trump is actually racist or genocidal or even a bad person.

                                But his followers are a different story. Even if Trump loses gracefully, congratulates Clinton and thanks his supporters and goes back to doing whatever it is normal billionaires do these days (donating to NAMBLA, according to some smart people), his followers will want to somehow "avenge" their God emperor.

                                I don't mean his white trash base- they won't do anything. They'll just go back to their normal lives. I mean this weird internet/reddit alt right breitbart reading milo worshiping fringe of supporters that sprung up. These people are demonstrably more racist, violent, and unhinged than the average mainstream bud-light-and-nascar Trump supporter. These are also the loudest and most fanatical supporters of Trump, they have actually convinced themselves that Trump is going to win in a "landslide" and play off any misstep by Trump as some "12D underwater korean backgammon" move.

                                They are actually more delusional than Bernie's supporters who thought he would actually contest the DNC.

                                I mean, go over to r/the_donald. It's teeming with edgy white young males (the demographic coincidentally that is most likely to produce assassins of political figures) who seem 2-3 bad poll numbers away from completely losing it.

                                I do fear for Hillary's life.

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                                  [–]sawmyoldgirlfriend [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  The problem is he still thinks he's on a reality TV show.

                                  [–]ShaneKaiGlenn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  Trump is radicalizing more Americans than ISIS...

                                  [–]Feignfame [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  And he isn't talking about protest because he says that'll be 'a horrible day'.

                                  You can't spin this.

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                                    [–]DumpsterDon [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                    Well, the reset didn't last very long.

                                    [–]President_Shitlord [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

                                    This is going to be talked about all week. Only 12 weeks to go.

                                    [–]tyrer [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                                    I honestly didn't think he was going to top the Khan comments...

                                    [–]President_Shitlord [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                    We've got 12 weeks left... 11 after we get through this one. 3 of those will be consumed by the debates. So we've got a good 8 weeks for Trump to top this one. My money's on greater things to come. After all, there's so little time left and so much to say.

                                    [–]tyrer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    I can't wait to see what is said in the debates. That much time in front of the camera without a teleprompter? And a moderator to push back at him? Hell. Its gonna get good.

                                    [–]IsymmetryI [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    On the first day of election my true love gave to me... disparaging comments about gold star parents.

                                    On the second day of election my true love gave to me... a call to assassinate the political opponent.

                                    [–]Decon-III [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    I'm betting he busts out a racial epithet on stage before the race is over.

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                                      [–]xHeero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      It's how he moves past his older gaffes. By making new gaffes.

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                                          [–]IDFSHILL [スコア非表示]  (35子コメント)

                                          It's hard to deny what he's hinting at here..

                                          [–]dyzo-blue [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                          Just saw a Trumpet on TV saying he was referring to the NRA, and their lobbying abilities.

                                          These people will defend anything.

                                          [–]IDFSHILL [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                          I mean, how exactly is the NRA gonna lobby a sitting president and prevent supreme court picks?

                                          The dems aren't going to bend over for the NRA and they'll be in control.

                                          [–]riptydeco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          As if the NRA wasn't already going to lobby against any Clinton nominee.

                                          [–]deathuntoourenemies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Anybody who listens to it in context gets his insinuation, there is no way he was talking about NRA lobbying.

                                          [–]physicalsecuritydan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          BUT HE FUCKING SAID 'It'll be a sad day..' immediately after.

                                          He just suggested someone murder a presidential candidate with a gun. Even the campaigns response had no clear explanation, just more kissing the assumption of 2a folks.

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                                            [–]Hardy723 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                            All of these little quips of his, I honestly try to look at it as an innocent, misconstrued remark. But Trump makes it impossible to interpret it any other way. He didn't come right out and say "shoot her!", but the implication is there.

                                            This is the same as his wording with regard to the Russian hacker thing ("...I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.")

                                            [–]griffin3141 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            At this stage in the game, Trump deserves zero benefit of the doubt.

                                            [–]Archz714 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            I would be even more open to give him a pass on some of his quips if he apologized or say he didn't mean that but he doesn't even do that!

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                                              [–]satosaison [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                              How many sitting GOP members of congress will this cost him? 3? 5?

                                              The fact it won't be more is just more evidence the Republican Party needs to be relegated to the ash heap of history.

                                              [–]ninjustin [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                              Those were never his members to begin with. You have to remember that Trump doesn't really give a damn about Republican politics.

                                              [–]Decon-III [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                              That's fine. But he's their nominee, and they are supporting him. Every time he makes a statement and swaths of republicans don't denounce him, it further cements the GOP as the party of cowards bowing to bigotry. Paul Ryan and his friends are cowards at best.

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                                                [–]Fromtheblood [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                Armed revolt like the framers of our Constitution intended. I'm betting even the armed right wing is too chicken.

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                                                  [–]roboboogienights [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                                  What a huge asshole. I sometimes can't believe the vile things Trump gets away with by just saying it's a joke afterwards.

                                                  [–]waiv [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                  And he gives the most stupid excuses and his stupid followers repeat them.

                                                  He didn't meant that all the mexican immigrants are rapists/drug dealers, only the illegals!

                                                  He didn't say Megyn Kelly was having her period, he meant she had a nosebleed!

                                                  He didn't imply Obama was a terrorist sympathizer, he meant to say that he was too politically correct!

                                                  Fuck him, he and his followers are scum.

                                                  [–]drkstr17 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                  Didn't Clinton just say, in response to