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[–]darmon[M] [スコア非表示] x4 stickied comment (0子コメント)

One should take care not to judge entire swaths of people based upon the behavior of teenagers whom are within that demographic.

Teenagers act on impulse and without thought to repercussions. If you are never going to help refugees, or migrants, or whoever, because of insert some tired, often repeated and circuitous personal anecdote here, then kindly do without the self-gratification of announcing you are done "helping" "these people."

Here's the thing. If there's some line to be crossed, where a vast group of people suddenly become undeserving of your assistance, because of the behavior of an errant few, then you weren't really helping. You were always looking for a reason to stop helping. There was always the threat of that encroaching line, and once you crossed it here you are now refusing to go back. So the line was always there. "I was helping, but then..." So you had expectations for how your "help" was supposed to go, how they would need to be sufficiently grateful to you, based on what you wanted out of the interaction. Your help was about what you got out of it, not about what you gave to them. If you entered into the arrangement capable of taking this highly predictable outcome personally, your "help" was literally the antithesis of selfless. It was all about you. Sure you had noble intentions, but as she often does reality had other things in mind. And if all it took for your noble intentions to evaporate was the first time something like this happened, how noble were they?

Bear in mind I am not excusing the behavior of the people shown here, kids, doing something I would raise my own children to recognize as wrong - it is not excusable, however it remains understandable given their circumstances.

Far less understandable, and certainly more intolerable to me, and what I am judging here, is the mindset demonstrated here from a lot of people, all viewing this minuscule snapshot of human life, from the safety and sanctity of their warm homes, full bellies, lifestyles of total and unquestionable stability (all assumptions to be sure, but safe ones at that,) who up and decide all refugees, or all homeless, or all drug addicts, simply all members of some marginalized group are not worthy of help or assistance, because of the actions of one or a few individuals, "that one time."

my moment [where I felt like I no longer had to help the homeless]...

fuck 90% of the people you see begging on the street

People who help others fulfill neglected needs, help. People who help others meet their needs, but only do so predicated with expectations of their own which need to be met first, do. not. help.

There are thousands of migrants in that facility, and here's a few teenage boys behaving deplorably, and BAM there is all the justification most of you needed to just write off all other people in this facility. Immediately generalized the behavior of this tiny subset, to all the people in there think and act like these few kids here and so why even bother?

Good job leaches for spoiling that for everyone else.

This isn't the first thread I've locked for the same sort of degenerative commentary, and with the way the world going it certainly won't be the last. But insofar as my limited capabilities allow me to, I am not going to let the community I built to become one more place on Reddit where the poor, the marginalized, and the disenfranchised are ritualistically debase. There are many other default subreddits where the commentary is woefully sophomoric, by all means use those. When it comes to this particular brand of "well I used to help, but don't anymore because of.." self-righteousness, I take particular offense and will not allow it to fester as it so plainly does. Conversations like this spiral with ever lower examples of "oh yeah? Well one time I gave a homeless person this, but then..." as individuals try to one up each other with a very twisted sort of "woe is me, the homeless wasn't sufficiently grateful," as if they are blind to the reality of homelessness.

I do not do much hands-on unilateral decision making in this community, because I have excellent moderators who take it very seriously, and because the community is rather light hearted and jovial in nature. When I do though invariably this is what it comes down to. As our world spirals further off the rails, conversations like this become more frequent, and

I say and do this knowing full well it is going to be kicking a hornets nest. I will be called all sorts of autocrat, tyrant, dictator, just for curtailing in the most minute way people's ability to chastise those less fortunate than themselves. And I am okay with that. I try to build and foster a community that is tolerant and understanding of all, as expressed in a universal appreciation for the quick fix sound-free video we all know and love. You all who will complain and threaten, and report and unsubscribe, know I am not taking away your ability to make and build and foster a community dedicated solely to that - sharing stories about that one time a homeless, displaced, or otherwise marginalized person did something untoward and how you know feel justified in despising them all. By all means make a subreddit for just that and all of you go there and pat each other on the back for sharing that view point. You may simply not do so here in this space.

TL; DR: if your charitable sense had a breaking point of running afoul one time before it evaporated, it was not charitable and it made no sense. No one is forcing you to help. If you thought you were helping, but then altogether stopped because of some negative interaction, you were only doing so because you felt forced to, not because you wanted to. Don't try to take credit for as having been charitable, that one time, when you have long since stopped. People who truly help marginalized communities do so whether they get thanks for it or not. The thing you're all missing is that if you stuck around after a reception like this, you would see and hear the apology and remorse that these kids (or the person in your own personal anecdote) expressed. It would bring it all full circle that they do need help, do appreciate help, and do regret doing ungrateful shit like this. Those who do shit like this need more help, not less. But like I said, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. If you don't want to help anymore because of "that one time..." fine, sit back and relax and let those who know how and why to help take it from here.

[–]tom_turbine 2156ポイント2157ポイント  (51子コメント)

Inside every cynic is a disappointed idealist.

[–]1426374859607 454ポイント455ポイント  (22子コメント)

That makes sense, the people who seem the most disappointed in shit like this are often the ones who would like to give the most.

[–]ftg4 238ポイント239ポイント  (15子コメント)

My moment... a homeless guy asked me to bring him out some food when I went into a restaurant. I did. I brought it out and he wasn't there. I went looking for him. He was no longer in a wheel chair. He was standing up, talking on his iphone to his parole officer. I waited and gave him the food anyways. He did not say thank you. He said "I said DIET coke!". I walked away. He yelled back "hey rich mother fucker. How about some money too!"

Fuck that guy. And fuck 90% of the people you see begging on the street.

It wasn't the first time I was disappointed. It was the straw that broke my charitable back.

[–]NobodyIsHereAnyMore 68ポイント69ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had one guy in his fifties approach me as I was walking into a Moe's. He said he was starving and asked for money to get food. I said that all I had was a credit card. While I was inside getting my food I had a change of heart and ordered two burritos. One for me, and one for him. As I was giving him his burrito, he held a hand up and said, "What the fuck is this?" I started to say, "But I thought you were..." He interrupted with, "I don't eat that shit!"

I had another guy approach on a bitterly cold night. I felt sorry for him being out, I was barely holding up. He asked for some "change". I replied, "Sorry, I don't have any." But then I thought Wait a second. I have a ton of quarters for laundry. About 5 bucks worth, which was a lot of money to me (college kid). I handed it over, he counted it and then said, "That's it?" I replied, "Yeah." He muttered something rude and stormed off. Like I was an asshole.

It's all anecdotal, whatever. I had positive responses from helping people out too, it's not all bad.

[–]duuubs22 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

In the UK we have a magazine called 'the big issue' homeless people can sell them and keep some if not all of the earnings, terrible magazine but hey, it's a decent cause. Anyway my mother in law one Christmas decided to buy one and also give the guy extra for the magazine that he could keep, the hobo looks at the money just handed to him and said, "is that all?" I don't think she ever bought one again.

[–]Throwaway-tan 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I suppose not, give me back that fiver and I'll exchange it for a tenner."

*pocket the cash and walk away*

[–]davetronred 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is why I will give to charitable organizations that help the homeless (Churches and such) but I refuse to give to street panhandlers. Too many are just assholes and liars.

[–]JeSuisOmbre 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody wants to be a cynic by default. Cynicism just becomes a defense.

[–]lakajadiwa 68ポイント69ポイント  (13子コメント)

Did not expect to see GC in this thread, boy would he have a field day if he knew what was happening.

[–]IAmBecomeGay 52ポイント53ポイント  (12子コメント)

GC =George Carlin

[–]GayBlackAndMarried 20ポイント21ポイント  (11子コメント)

Saw his last show in Atlanta, I often find myself thinking, "I wonder what George Carlin would be saying about this current event"

[–]SuperiorAmerican 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well said. Is that from something? Not trying to insult, but I like it, and if it is from something I'd like to learn more about that thing.

[–]sgt_bad_phart 3034ポイント3035ポイント  (332子コメント)

That face he made, as he walked away, that was the face of someone that'll likely never do anything humanitarian like that ever again. Good job leaches for spoiling that for everyone else.

[–]Seen_Unseen 901ポイント902ポイント  (190子コメント)

I've a non European wife. I went with her through the integration process up close. I joined some of her classes to see what's going on. I talked with the teachers, with the guidance counselors with the government officials, with the lawyer. We did everything as correct as it could be. My opinion about the vast majority of the refugees (Iraqi/Afghanistan back then) went to rock bottom.

The abuse of the system I witnessed made me just sick in my stomach and knowing that this still goes on infuriates me. It's not right to say nobody comes in, heck my own wife wouldn't be allowed in, but what goes on back then and these days is far from right.

[–]Figgles86 276ポイント277ポイント  (119子コメント)

Please elaborate on why your opinion of refugees went to rock bottom. I'm not challenging your opinion, I am genuinely interested in your experience.

[–]Seen_Unseen 868ポイント869ポイント  (117子コメント)

My wife is someone with a master degree and fluent in English when arriving in the Netherlands. We went voluntarily through the integration process because we figured out to stay longer in the Netherlands. The classes were very slow so I would sit down a number of times to figure out why. The class consisted back then mostly out of Iraqi and Afghanistan people. They were mostly illiterate and even after 3 years (when there was a re-union) non learned the language. There was also a large group of Southern Saharan people who would walk in, sign off and go out again. When asking why this was the response was they had to "attend" to be eligible for welfare. They are literally for decades in the Netherlands and again can't speak the language.

Most of them also had difficulties with cultural differences. We don't do segregation of sexes and teachers often tend to be female which the males didn't like. They wouldn't even recognize her being there so they would sit down and that would be it.

Because process was so slow my wife went to the university to learn Dutch at our own cost to speed up the process. There was one younger guy as well a refugee whom the government pays for. Everything, as in housing, pocket money, food, education, transportation and whatever else. He would sell off his books.

From everyone I met back then only 1 lady we have a bit of contact, I tend to think out of the 50ish people I've seen 45 have zero chance to integrate, most can't speak the language and actually most are also pretty fine with how everything is.

[–]Astromachine 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was also a large group of Southern Saharan people who would walk in, sign off and go out again. When asking why this was the response was they had to "attend" to be eligible for welfare.

When I do training classes for my job we only pass around the sign in sheet at the end of the class. This sort of abuse is very easily avoided.

This sort of thing always ticks me off to no end. Because I know there are people out there who would love to have this sort of opportunity, and would take it seriously, but can't because there is limited availability and some leech has taken a spot.

[–]vurtjibb 624ポイント625ポイント  (95子コメント)

A friend of mine (a Muslim from Egypt) volunteered to help with the influx of Syrian refugees who recently arrived in Canada. He spent a lot of his free time in the past year translating, facilitating events, and generally trying to be helpful to them.

He's been incredibly disappointed with what he's seen and heard. Many of these people don't see the opportunity they've been given and have little in the way of prospects. Many of them will be a drain on our resources, and he's worried that their lack of integration will lead to isolation and potential trouble.

One of these guys asked my friend how to go about getting a car. He explained that you need a license, insurance, and registration. Guy gets caught two weeks later speeding with none of the above.

I do believe we share an obligation to help those in need, but it's tough when you feel that help is being abused.

[–]Tarshana 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have a friend like that, too. He said it is because they don't want to be here but that should not be an excuse. The Canadian people aren't sure what to do right now because of housing crisis and now trying to help people who do not wish to be here.

[–]PandaBearMcSausage 179ポイント180ポイント  (31子コメント)

This is extremely enlightening. I wonder how much of it is caused by the refugees living hand-to-mouth and having a sort of 'starving dog' mentality. A mentality where they can't really plan for tomorrow and have no idea how to do so because they still expect to be without necessities in the very near future.

[–]pragmaticzach 224ポイント225ポイント  (9子コメント)

There have been studies done on this. Poor people make stupid long term decisions because they have become extremely good at planning for nothing but the most immediate, short term needs. They are good at surviving because it is what has been demanded of them, but it makes them pretty bad at everything else.

[–]serviceslave 46ポイント47ポイント  (0子コメント)

Little story, I worked maintenance in a 20+ storey apartment building in the GTA. Every other day or so a new refugee family would move in. One day a new refugee women walks up to our common-areas cleaning lady and in perfect english asks "Excuse me but how many times will you be cleaning my apartment, because I'm fine with twice a week....."

Now, the cleaning lady did her best to hold her south american blood from boiling and politely reminded the new Canadian that this is not a hotel and people normal clean their own homes here. But this new lady did not understand. She always had a servant to do that for her in Syria.

I now have a sneaking suspicion that some refugees were accepted in Canada only because they HAVE money. They are not tattered and hungry like what you expect from a unicef commerical. Some seem seem to have grew up spoiled the same as westerners.
Hand-to-mouth? Maybe, but I now think Canada's selection of who we took in was not as noble as we like to believe.

[–]smellyloincloth 71ポイント72ポイント  (9子コメント)

It also has to do with them now being in kuffar nations, run by nonbelievers who they are explicitly told to take advantage of and to lie to.

Every dollar stolen from the kuffars in Europe is a victory, they think.

[–]JimiSlew3 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Heck, when I was learning to potty train my grandfather told me how much toilet paper I was wasting and showed me how to fold it for maximum usage. He also would save peach pits and other seeds to plant fruit trees on his small property. This man lived through the great depression and served in WWII as an American. Yet 85 years after the depression and, 20 years after he passed, the way I wipe my ass is still determined by the privations he suffered. Oh, and yes, there are still pears and apples to be eaten needed.

[–]PerplexedGoblin_ 112ポイント113ポイント  (46子コメント)

People don't realize how wide-spread the problem in Canada is. There are many people here who;

  1. Don't work
  2. Do speak English
  3. Don't do anything to help society

And all they do is drain resources for social assistance and medical expenses. Government takes 1/4 of my money, and gives it to the people who aren't doing anything.

Source: live in the biggest "multicultural city in Canada"

[–]changee_of_ways 50ポイント51ポイント  (0子コメント)

Come down to America, the "Health Care" system here takes 1/4 of my money and then fucks me every chance it can get.

[–]Mallee_Bull 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Canadian news papers are too nice- to probably report on the disasterous follow up of the 25k refugees that hdisasterousover the past 12 months

[–]Almost_Ascended 96ポイント97ポイント  (7子コメント)

There should be a test after a period of time, with one retry, after which those who clearly cannot integrate are forcibly deported. This is just ridiculous.

[–]gepgepgep 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course, we would get brigades of people saying how "racist" and "discriminatory" this would be.

[–]Almost_Ascended 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Everyone who is there as a refugee and receiving government aid will get the same tests, given the same time and education to pass those tests, and suffer the same consequence of deportation should they fail. Anyone who claims this is racist and discriminatory are the biased ones, as they are implying that this particular group would not do as well versus others in a level playing field.

Oh, and any attempts to cheat or use a ringer means immediate deportation, regardless of how well you actually integrate. Also, I am aware that tests definitely cannot truly measure how well one can actually integrate, but if you don't even bother to pretend to try like the leeches in the above comment, you don't deserve to be there, period.

[–]smartstuff14 132ポイント133ポイント  (65子コメント)

Immigration primarily exists for countries to benefit from educated and/or wealthy foreigners. If someone in their twenties or thirties who is well qualified wants to immigrate, they are a valuable commodity. That nation didn't pay any costs associated with raising them or educating them and will now benefit from a high tax paying individual. Migrants with no skills and no inclination to work hard will be a burden on the system and their children will also likely be a burden on the system.

[–]McGuineaRI 36ポイント37ポイント  (62子コメント)

This is a major problem in the US as well. In the 60's, immigration opened the flood gates so to speak. That's why there are so many millions of people living here that didn't have a sales pitch. They came here with nothing and after generations they still have nothing. There is a very different mentality that westerners don't understand where people coming here don't want to integrate and they don't think of themselves as American. Many Americans have fond memories of their relatives coming to the US, working to learn english, joining the military to prove themselves to their new countrymen, and all the other stories from European immigration. But, outside of Europe and East Asia, we're taking in millions of third world people and sticking them in cities. There aren't any jobs here. They become citizens and then they get onto the plethora of services we offer to people that are hard on their luck. It's not a net benefit at all.

[–]Tekro 60ポイント61ポイント  (60子コメント)

Uh, the "floodgates" were open well before the 60's and the poor, uneducated immigrants are what built this country. See: Irish/chinese immigration.

[–]fooliam 58ポイント59ポイント  (21子コメント)

Irish and Chinese immigrants worked.

Currently, a lot of central American immigrants follow the same trend. Uneducated, but work hard.

Middle East and African immigrants don't follow this trend. They aren't educated and they don't work.

[–]Rain_when_I 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too true. Almost all the Mexicans and other Hispanics I've met work super hard to make a life for themselves and their families. They also appreciate aspects of the American culture (NFL especially where I'm from) and bring aspects of their culture with them (fire ass Mexican food :).

[–]greenchomp 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, but those European immigrants weren't really from the "third world". US was built largely by the same people to colonized Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.

[–]cromulent_pseudonym 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks like Ryan the temp fed up with office bullshit

[–]IGotSkills 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

on a much smaller scale, when I was young someone begged for a dollar with a sob story. I gave him two bucks. he looked at me, cut the act and said "is that all you got?" It was then and there that I came to a realization that we don't live in a nice world, and that only people who will appreciate kindness deserve it. Otherwise they are just leeches.

[–]SquishyWhenWet 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same thing happend to me about two weeks ago. A woman aproched me in the market and asked me for change she said she was trying to get to the hospital. She had asked for a quarter or anything I could spare. I opend my change purse and grabed a good handfull (about $6 in loose change) then she dropped the sick act and asked me for the rest. Fucking upset me so much. Like seriously? I gave her 24 times what she asked for and she wanted more that was twice what the buses cost here. Hospital my ass!

[–]Chicken_noodle_sui 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah when I worked at a news stand I had a woman that would come in occasionally with a collection tin for a charity. She'd come and buy scratch tickets and open up the tin and pay for them with the donated money.

I also would have a lot of guys come up with lots of small change to buy cigarettes. Then I'd finish work and those same guys would be asking me for spare change "for the bus". Really makes you wary of who are legitimately needy and who are the scammers.

[–]pulispangkalawakan 253ポイント254ポイント  (114子コメント)

This is why Donald Trump can say the things he says without really being challenged. It's like back last year where black people rallied in the streets, defaced public and private property and stole things from businesses. All because someone called black people criminals. I guess those black people proved a white mans point.

[–]closetsquirrel 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first year my wife and I lived together we were in a rental house together. It was Halloween, which I love. My wife could care less, but I wanted to be a great house, especially since we were a little off the beaten path, so I got all the best candies and put them in a bowl.

The very first group of trick-or-treaters who came to the door, half weren't wearing costumes at all (which, I understand not everyone can afford it, so I can forgive that part), but I told them to pick out one piece of candy each. Every hand darted for the bowl, grabbed a handful each, a couple grabbed two, and by the time the group was done, over half my candy was gone.

I felt like shit, turned my porch light off, and sat down and watched TV for the rest of the evening.

I completely empathize.

[–]Pun_Crasher_Disaster 371ポイント372ポイント  (13子コメント)

He looks like Ryan Howard (B.J. Novak) from "The Office". He also has the same reaction I would expect his character to have.

[–]crazed3raser 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

It even looks like it could be a scene from The Office. Except not in an office.

[–]zombiecancer12 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

His apperance and demeanor seemed familiar to me but i couldn't place it, thanks man.

[–]JeSuisCornholio 90ポイント91ポイント  (3子コメント)

1) If there's one thing I've learnt about charity is that to actually make an impact you need to get organized and demand accountability from receivers of the benefit. Disorganized efforts such as this will get no one anything.

2) Having lived in a developing nation I know how easy it is to give in to short sightedness and mob mentality. One person does it and you feel bad that you're not getting what they got. It's a chain reaction from there.

3) Maturity and sensibility are not valued traits in cultures like that. In the past they would have had to to fight to survive. You don't worry about the future when your problems are immediate. And that it takes several generations of development for that instinct to go away.

[–]CoeusLoki 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Development won't happen if everyone is just tearing each other apart.

[–]woowoo293 809ポイント810ポイント  (41子コメント)

Not really "attacked," but "mobbed" or "robbed" I suppose.

[–]redditaccount7654321 90ポイント91ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was expecting to see someone get beaten bloody from the title.

[–]Holmoen 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

That was a robbery. Plain and simple. They stole from him by force.

[–]Aspiring_fed 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

Actually in America this fits the definition of "robbery - force/violence" in my state.

[–]Buki1 222ポイント223ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Biting the hand that feeds them"

[–]MEMeFFICIENT 393ポイント394ポイント  (6子コメント)

From what I can tell, these refugees are in a facility where there is sanitation, they are somewhat comfortable, they look relatively clean, and they are wearing clothes that are in decent repair.

To everybody in this thread that claims they are starving and are only trying to feed themselves because they haven't eaten in epochs, I'm calling BULLSHIT.

This is outright THUGGERY. Yeah, I said it. Look at the smiles on some of these thieves faces as they are stealing shit meant for their own community.

So go ahead and preach how I just don't get it, how I've never been this desperate. Then pull your head out of your ass, watch the gif again and again, like I have and tell me that this isn't some straight up gangster bullshit. I dare you.

I want to have a soft spot for the plight of these migrants, but fuck me if I'm going to lift a finger when I see this kind of bullshit.

[–]BigFish96 67ポイント68ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Is it bad that I think e should just take the criminals in this video (track the source. Find the guys that did this) and send them back to their lands? Either you abide by our laws or you go back.

[–]JackieBoySlim 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are absolutely right. There is NO reason why a community should be FORCED to allow these people in, what good does it do to literally let savages run wild and upset the way of life for those who don't wantonly commit crimes? Robbery, rapes, violence, sure let's just let them in to conform to 2016's PC standards.

[–]LiterallyBats 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right at the end, one of them pulls something out then holds it up like a trophy.

[–]plvsma 253ポイント254ポイント  (5子コメント)

fucking despicable

i cant believe he didnt give them the clothes off his back

[–]Eric_Cartmenace 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

And his savings, phone and skin? What a selfish prick. He even kept his soul jeez. People today are so selfish

[–]messymexican 151ポイント152ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well... that's the last time he's going to help them I guess.

[–]Dano_The_Bastard 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's obviously never heard that the fastest vehicles where they come from are the bread trucks. Now he knows the reason why!

[–]Banacek_ 524ポイント525ポイント  (76子コメント)

I get it, they're in a shit situation. But seeing stuff like this is going to have the opposite effect, I think more people will be like "fuck those guys" rather than "damn those guys are really fucking hungry"

Source: I know it's wrong but first thing I thought when I watched this was, fuck those guys.

[–]InternetKingTheKing 823ポイント824ポイント  (66子コメント)

Whenever I see this rampant shit it makes me think of 2 things.

1) The Japanese got fucking wrecked by a Tsunami and they all still stood in line to get food, even if they were starving. 2) This kid is never going to help these people again. Every time they do this they lose a supporter.

I feel bad for people in situations like this, but shit like fighting, stealing, raping, refusing to stay in a country that will have you so you can attempt to get a slightly greater amount of handouts in another country, then after all they receive, a large chunk refuses to even attempt to integrate AT ALL, etc. all make me say "fuck these people." You're getting so much help as it is when NO ONE owes you a fucking shred of help. Please just act civilized and pretend to be grateful.

[–]MikeLanglois 177ポイント178ポイント  (9子コメント)

Your first point drives it home. You can be hungry, but that doesn't mean you have to do this.

[–]1426374859607 324ポイント325ポイント  (26子コメント)

Thank you for mentioning the Japanese, people want to justify this disgusting animal like behaviour be citing the struggle these people face but there are plenty who are civilised even in the greatest adversity.

[–]Midwest_Drifter 80ポイント81ポイント  (22子コメント)

We should repopulate the world with Japanese.

[–]TeaLiger 60ポイント61ポイント  (2子コメント)

Problem is, for the Japanese repopulating is the hard part at the moment

[–]Malarki101 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are the pandas of humanity, poor li'l fellers

[–]a3sir 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

The Japanese wont even populate japan adequately, what makes you think they'll repopulate the world?

[–]smellyloincloth 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn bodypillows.

[–]Frond_Dishlock 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well pon farr does only occur once every seven years, that must make it difficul... no wait, I'm thinking of Vulcans. Never mind.

[–]oursland 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are more than 127 million Japanese in their nation, they're not going anywhere.

[–]1426374859607 108ポイント109ポイント  (11子コメント)

The Japanese aren't perfect, in fact they have done some fucked up shit, but they have the best manners. And the best food, so ok let's do it.

[–]JustKillYourselfSir 74ポイント75ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even their gangs are polite.

[–]JGVjed[🍰] 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

As a Filipino, they really did some fucked up shit.

[–]1426374859607 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

My grandmother is Indonesian so I heard all about their antics. However, sashimi and orderly queues give me a boner.

[–]RandomCow909 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Orderly queues you say... We could repopulate the world with english... Oh we tried and people had a problem with it

[–]meatfloss 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You were too wishy washy. Straddled the line between nice and vicious a bit much. Now the Spaniards on the other hand, they knew how to colonize without cultural problems. Because they tended to eradicate any cultures they came in contact with......

[–]kinglee2015 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a Korean, they really did some fucked up shit.

[–]Bananapepper89 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chinese here, very fucked up shit.

[–]GreenPJs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm pretty sure the Japanese are the most hated among the pacific/east Asians. Seriously they historically fucked with so many people and countries.

[–]joleme 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every time they do this they lose a supporter.

But the people doing it don't care because they will continue to rob, assault, etc to get what they want. The ones that lose the supporter are the patient ones that aren't doing the robbing.

[–]gyroscopesrcool 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

which is what makes this kind of behaviour a tragedy.

[–]Lord_Fozzie 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

I find it really difficult to disagree with you. I'm not sure that I do.

But I think it's worth pointing out that the tsunami survivors in Japan had probably grown up in Japanese society-- a society known around the world for its orderliness and sense of duty so strict as to be bordering on irrational. It's the culture that has manuals for everything! ... What I'm getting at is that I doubt that, when standing in line for food, starving though they might have been, probably none of the tsunami survivors felt any need to barge their way to the front because they knew no one else would. It would be unthinkable and absolutely untolerated in their culture.

Whereas in-- let's face it-- in most other cultures of the world-- there would be no expectation that a line would even form. The shitty truth is that a lot of people in this world act like children running at a pinata in these situations because they kind of are children. There were never any parents modeling "good" behavior or teaching them basic ethics and etiquette. Hell-- the average age of parenthood in many third world countries is early 20s (I'm pretty sure)-- in the Commonwealth countries, America, and Western Europe we barely expect people to have their shit together at that age. This sort of behavior is, as far as I can see, the result of children raising children.

Edit: I feel like I should add that I'm still not sure that's an excuse. Cause I feel I learned most of my early ethics from after school specials and sesame Street and I don't think even tiny stupid me would have behaved like this.

[–]omglaz0rz 43ポイント44ポイント  (5子コメント)

The thing is though, civilzed behaviour is alien to them.

[–]ostreatus 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seems like it was alien to those particular asshat children, not the necessary the calm patient people seated around them/

[–]tacolikesweed 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dude smiling while taking his shit reaffirms every notion of "fuck those guys" in this thread.

[–]sassyseconds 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still think that.

[–]oxosmooches 44ポイント45ポイント  (13子コメント)

I gave a homeless man my leftover Thai food in Newark, Nj two days ago. He just said "god Bless your soul. Thank you." Why doesn't everyone given a gift act like this, homeless, refugee or otherwise? :/

[–]SentientHuntress 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

My husband bought a slice of pizza specifically for a homeless woman sitting outside the restaurant. No leftovers. She said thank you and then left while he was still eating with my daughter. She left the pizza sitting on the ground.

We were a little puzzled.

[–]RyvenZ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Graciousness really makes even humble generosity feel light years better.

I love the feeling it creates.

[–]romyori 397ポイント398ポイント  (91子コメント)

[–]Delta_dark 704ポイント705ポイント  (32子コメント)

Fuck those guys. This is why nobody wants to help.

[–]brokencig 139ポイント140ポイント  (16子コメント)

Yeah no kidding. I'm assuming the majority of them are decent and just really want to have a chance to live fairly. Too many fucking rapists, thieves, racists, radicals and just general violent fucks in that group for anyone to feel safe around them.
It's tough to look at all those innocent kids get rejected but until the adults learn to live with other groups then I wouldn't want any of them where I live.

[–]Khronys 86ポイント87ポイント  (7子コメント)

All the other people there are just sitting around watching him get robbed. No one stands up to their own people in these situations.

[–]HeyUncleVanya 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

It looks like it's the kids that are harassing that sandwich distributor though.

[–]r0bbiedigital 69ポイント70ポイント  (3子コメント)

I usually let the hive mind (queen borg, otherwise known as the top commenter) form my opinion for me. Its super efficient

[–]Einsteins_Taint 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

[–]Athens360 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

No good deed goes unpunished.

[–]rrepulsar 146ポイント147ポイント  (2子コメント)

Man look at these desperate people with their designer clothing, clean hair cuts and gleeful smiles.

[–]SnapeProbDiedAVirgin 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's honestly amazing how this is tolerated

[–]GEDOSLAND 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

shh quiet, the EU politicians might hear you thinking rationally

[–]omnipedia 63ポイント64ポイント  (5子コメント)

Im not allowed to emigrate to Germany and get a job but these people are allowed to do so and live on welfare?

I'm part Germán. Ethnically I'm Germán, but I can't get citizenship for it because my parents weren't citizens. This despite Germany driving off many in the 1930s.

I lived in Germany as a kid. I'm a highly experienced technical professional. I could work for a dozen jobs paying six figures in euros there before I even set foot in the country.

But they won't let me in. I could spend huge amounts and years of effort and maybe get a Chen e to emigrate. But these people get in to live on welfare? Decades of low skilled Turks can emigrate there? Nothing against Turks- fine people and Berlin kebab is better for it.

It's just asinine that I can't do a software startup in Germany or work for one, despite my skills and heritage... but these people get a pass.

[–]hehehuehue 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

are Germáns and Germans different?

[–]SPZX 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

One has an accent.

[–]DXGypsy 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

You wouldn't want to live in Germany anyway. It's full of welfare refugees.

[–]FreshGoku03 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The worst part is that it looked like those items were going to mother's with small children.

:(

[–]Okchud 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Source video?

[–]tipsy3tx 269ポイント270ポイント  (45子コメント)

This is how you turn a liberal into a conservative.

[–]FarkDiggReddit 72ポイント73ポイント  (4子コメント)

I find that interacting with others tends to turn people more moderate, not necessarily towards one particular direction; it helps people see that the world isn't black and white.

[–]DestinyPvEGal 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

I considered myself liberal until recently when I decided I was more of a moderate slightly leaning towards the liberal side. My motto is "The world is not black and white" on any political issue. You hit the nail right on the head.

[–]Reddit-Sheriff 45ポイント46ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does your straw man liberal think that all people are good?

If so, my straw man conservative is as self-interested as those refugees.

[–]The_DoubleStandard 66ポイント67ポイント  (4子コメント)

He should come back with some baked goods infused with laxative. Make them look really tasty. Maybe red velvet cupcakes or banana nut muffins. Mmmmm delicious. He cant give them away or it would be illegal. But if he was mugged, then he could have a nice chuckle afterward. Please be triggered.

[–]NastyJames 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

This idea, I like. Wanna take my shit? You'll have plenty of shit of your own soon enough.

[–]JectorDelan 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

:(

There's someone who isn't going to try and help again. That blows.

[–]blueSky_Runner 435ポイント436ポイント  (89子コメント)

If you've ever been to a refugee center or a refugee camp (in any part of the world) this is pretty much what happens. I've experienced it first hand and its something all aid workers deal with when handing out provisions.

I feel bad for the guy because he was just trying to carry out a good deed but desperate people do desperate things. When aid agencies do this they actually have to implement strict procedures on handing out food and water so that everyone gets a fair share, otherwise unorganized = chaos + free for all.

[–]Mister_Johnson_ 813ポイント814ポイント  (53子コメント)

They're not that desperate, it wasn't food they were taking, and they were smiling as they did it. It was wrong, and they knew it was wrong.

[–]Robbyrobbb 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

no shit... did anyone watch the video?

that's not food and they're laughing at the guy

[–]brokencig 160ポイント161ポイント  (18子コメント)

You can see this type of behavior at a shitload of food giveaways for the needy. The "needy" are often complete assholes who can't wait in line and above all else they are picky and greedy as shit. Not only are they receiving free food from kind generous people but they have the balls to complain about what they are receiving.
Those people don't give a shit that they are ruining it for the people who actually need the help. People see this behavior and become less likely to try and help. Just like a shitload of those lying sacks of shit who accuse innocent people of rape are ruining it for actual victims.
It then makes the decent people realize that if they don't start acting like those douchebags then they will have to wait for longer and receive shit.

[–]Hai_Karate 166ポイント167ポイント  (14子コメント)

[–]ostreatus 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am disgusted. Though certainly some of these people are indeed needy and aren't excessively abusive assholes.

[–]Hai_Karate 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

undoubtedly. think of how many more people in need could be catered for though, if these parasites had some/better morals.

[–]brokencig 68ポイント69ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's exactly what I meant. I understand the downvotes on my previous comment but those people do not understand the level of greed in some people.
My friend volunteered at a food bank in Chicago, she worked with a church and helped feed a lot of hungry people. However her faith in humanity got lost along the way because of how many people called her a racist for giving them some cheap canned bullshit or not giving them enough (Even though if they had asked for more they could get it.)
I see a shitload of people abusing food stamps and still have the balls to complain and try to abuse the programs. And then you have a normal family who is actually desperate for any sort of assistance who are willing to work for next to nothing just to eat but can't get on those welfare programs for a number of fucked up reasons but mostly because people abuse those programs.
My family (before I was born) lived under communist law and the shit they received was far from enough. They did some sketchy shit to survive but most of it was just illegal trading of goods for favors or other goods. And if someone helped them out in any way they would be thanked and respected, not stolen from.

[–]Hai_Karate 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

entitlement comes from all walks of life. i remember that actor saying he spent time on food stamps, yet apparently no one helped him when he was down... and tax cuts, bailouts etc for companies that basically robbed people of their homes and savings, yet they still lobby for more, and do everything they can to stop wage rises and benefits for their employees.

on the other hand, there are poor people with fuck all, that feel they're taking advantage when all they are doing is taking the help they've earned, and deserve. some of the reasons you should never judge a person by their status or wealth.

[–]brokencig 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

on the other hand, there are poor people with fuck all, that feel they're taking advantage when all they are doing is taking the help they've earned, and deserve. some of the reasons you should never judge a person by their status or wealth.

Unfortunately where I live a whole bunch of people who deserve government help are too proud to try to apply for it because of the stigma that a lot of dickheads created around the system. Too many people abusing those programs and still complaining and committing crimes while those who truly need the help are getting shut down. The welfare abuse is absolutely ridiculous and should be better controlled so that a shithead driving a beamer, wearing expensive clothes, having the best technology around, never once bothering to keep a job doesn't get the financial help that a person who is willing to sell everything they own in order to feed their own family deserves.
Any sort of financial aid program should be reserved for short term people in order to get them back on their feet. Any sort of food/clothes donations should go to those who truly need them because there is no other way for them to get it.
Either way whatever free help you're getting should be appreciated and repaid in one way or another, whether it is helping others once you get on your feet or at least being grateful for what you did receive.

[–]smellyloincloth 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Brutal video, as a bay area resident for a decade or so it's really not a surprise though.

[–]JangSaverem 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I already know this is gonna be what I think it is.And it sure as hell make this particular nation of people look just like how the rest of the world keeps telling me they are...why...how so many?

[–]hatgineer 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've actually followed some of these folks and I think there is something people should know. I will play devil's advocate for this. It is not always a sign of greed, although it can be sometimes, and looks that way in a few examples in this video.

To begin, the poor often need more than just one thing, toiletries, clothes, maybe even things that require physical money like bills, fines, or even rent, if the person is in poverty and trying to keep from becoming homeless.

However, charities often are not so diverse as to provide for every type of need. It would actually be impractical for them to be this diverse. It is probably more efficient if they don't, so in most cases they offer like just one thing, in this case it is food. The needy may need many other things, but here free food is the only help they have, if they want to fulfill their other needs, which aren't going to go away, they must first liquidate the food they get.

It is because of this that I no longer see the needy selling food as enough evidence of greed. They could be just trying to make ends meet. If you guys are really interested in pointing fingers at the right people, I highly recommending witholding judgement until after you see what they spend their money on. Maybe they're using the money to buy clothes, or maybe it's drugs, one is fine to me and the other one not so much.

The guys leaving the food by the hotel? That's fine by me too, they took what they needed and left the rest for someone else. HOWEVER, throwing that food away in the trash like those other guys did in the video is absolutely unforgivable.

[–]JaapHoop 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an unpopular opinion but studies are starting to demonstrate that in terms of actually improving people's lives the best charity is just straight cash. No strings, no boxes of toiletries and food. Some will blow it others will spend it wisely. The ones who spend it well will derive far more benefit from the flexibility of cash than from aid in kind.

[–]rsyay 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't want these kind of people in my neighbourhood

[–]Child_of_1984 102ポイント103ポイント  (24子コメント)

They realized that if they just take the food, instead of waiting for it to be handed to them, they get it faster, and they get more of it. Sort of like the assholes who drive on the shoulder during rush hour. They're not smiling because they're assholes who are doing something wrong, they're smiling because they think they figured out a neat trick the rest of us are too dumb to realize.

[–]MrUrbanGypsy 210ポイント211ポイント  (16子コメント)

These aren't dogs that learned how to open the pantry, they are people who are fully capable of realizing that there are victims to their actions.

[–]ostreatus 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

they're smiling because they think they figured out a neat trick the rest of us are too dumb to realize.

that sounds like assholes doing something wrong. how they lazily rationalize it is part of why theyre assholes

[–]Child_of_1984 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

hence the "they think they've figured out..."

They're obviously assholes. But they think they're clever and have stumbled onto some kind of trick the rest of us haven't figured out yet.

STEALING?! My god! It's so much easier to just steal the stuff that I want! Then I don't need to pay for it or put in any kind of effort whatsoever! Why isn't everyone doing this?!

[–]Tekinette 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any giveaway with no oversight or security turns into a frenzy, even sale events like black friday does that to people, especially when you can easily tell there's not enough for everybody. Not that it's a good thing, just pointing out it's not specific to refugees.

[–]japadoge 75ポイント76ポイント  (15子コメント)

You are 100% right, I've lived this first hand as well, I've been a volunteer dealing with refugees and victims of natural disasters and I saw this type of behavior every time.

Despair, fear and hunger can turn the most civilized of men into thieves and bandits.

[–]anomalous_cowherd 119ポイント120ポイント  (10子コメント)

It takes surprisingly little.

Our mains water supply got contaminated once, and was expected to be undrinkable (even if boiled) for about three days. There were supplies of free bottled water laid on but they wouldn't be there until the next day.

We would have just made do but we had a four week old baby and needed water to make his milk, so I went to the supermarket. They had plenty of water and other soft drinks, but people were being ridiculous and panic buying with trolleys piled so high they couldn't see over them, stealing from other peoples trolleys even though there were pallets full of bottles still there, I even saw a fistfight in the car park.

The shortage was for three days. You could drive 20 minutes away and be outside the affected area and fill all the containers you liked straight from a tap.

It take surprisingly little to get people to panic. It's scary. And it's infectious too.

[–]zsaccohtt 52ポイント53ポイント  (6子コメント)

You could drive 20 minutes away

Wow. Really puts our capability to be irrational into perspective.

[–]anomalous_cowherd 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

It was actually pretty scary, and I'm not a small guy.

Once people start acting irrationally, all bets are off.

[–]Prophet_of_Entropy 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

civilisation is a thin venire indeed.

[–]Sojourner_Truth 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

veneer, partner

[–]Mr_Pop_Pop 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

did you intentionally try to fuck this comment up?

[–]Frankly_George 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

The shortage was for three days. You could drive 20 minutes away and be outside the affected area and fill all the containers you liked straight from a tap.

Reminds me of the classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters on Main Street".

[–]Ajuvix 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm relieved there are empathetic people in here stating this harsh reality. I was worried it would be shit posts at the top. Maybe there are further down and I bet if there are, none of them have spent any time in a situation like this.

[–]WHF6 56ポイント57ポイント  (11子コメント)

Got to watch this chick go from anti-gun to pro-gun real quick during one of these food distro missions in Haiti.

The whole time they're setting up she's making these comments along the lines of "do you think you have enough firepower?" "are all those guns going to help improve their lives?"

About 30 minutes of people pushing trying to get to the food they start grabbing at the staff and whatnot.

The look of terror in that pretty little blonde girl's eyes as she ran behind all the guys with those evil evil guns was priceless in my eyes and I'll remember it forever.

Never heard another word about our weapons from any of them.

The point being, it's all well and good and "let's help them!" and all that crap until they start grabbing at YOUR boobies. Then even the most hardcore optimist will change their tune real quick.

[–]HacksawDecapitation 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

Are you sure you didn't just see the latest Rambo movie?

[–]sher1ock 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what always happens. "guns are evil and should be banned" "oh no! I'm in danger where are the men with guns?"

[–]misanthropeaidworker 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Professional aid worker here, we definitely have systems in place to avoid this type of situation. Running a safe and organized distribution is actually really complicated and requires a ton of planning, preparation, and coordination. And when it goes wrong, people can die. This is why voluntourists annoy aid workers so much when they rock up to an emergency in the Philippines or Nepal (but strangely, I've never seen any in Iraq or South Sudan...) and think they can do the work with no prior training or experience.

[–]benh141 138ポイント139ポイント  (41子コメント)

I don't care how desperate they are, if they are going to act like that when someone is helping them they they deserve the shitty situation they are in. They came to another country to seek help then they shit on the people helping them.

[–]risingsunx 100ポイント101ポイント  (8子コメント)

This thread will surely be a uplifting read

[–]crowscountingspades 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let's import as many of these upstanding folks as we can find!!!

[–]MassachusettsSays 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

That moment when the white liberal idealist becomes a closeted moderate republican.

[–]grey_mouser 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No good deed goes unpunished.

[–]ttwannabe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate to say it but after all the shit I've seen I'm always extra cautious around large groups of middle eastern individuals. I hate profiling bit shit I'd rather be an ass hole than get my shit jacked.

[–]bill_gonorrhea 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine.

[–]liketheherp 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shoulda started swingin those elbows. Street rats go down easy.

[–]THEDrunkPossum 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet he votes Republican next time lol

[–]JoeHardesty 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

And if he dared to react in any way shape or form he would be labeled a racist and islamaphobic with no heart.

Jesus christ these people are not capable of assimilation, it's not going to happen. Stop letting this world fall apart, multiculturalism is a failure.

[–]DiscoKid28 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

I can hear him say, "Fuck it, voting Trump."

[–]Trumpsmason 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just so you know. The children grow up to be men.

[–]puredreamer 45ポイント46ポイント  (3子コメント)

They were being moderate.

[–]saltysweat 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, I mean nobody died in this situation. Progress?

[–]bocanuts 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. The moderates only steal and support extremists, not actually kill anyone.

[–]Sir_Tmotts_III 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who doesn't want to help out people stealing food from a woman?

[–]Stekpannadeath 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I can remember, he was there to give food to the women because he'd seen that they generally got very little.

[–]tealgreen 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

these refugees need to show a lot less entitlement and a lot more gratefulness if they want people to treat them better

[–]Hornedking28 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are assuming they are rational and civilized. They are not. I am not speaking racially or culturally, I am speaking about generational poverty and ignorance. I see the exact same behavior from generationally poor whites in the US. They will take whatever they can get their hands on. There is no such thing as right and wrong, there is only opportunism. The sad thing is, there is no amount of money you can throw at this to fix it. You can provide free education, free money, free whatever, and these types of folks will NOT take advantage of it. I see it every day, and it drives me nuts. They are as dumb as a sack of hammers, and there is not fuck all you can do about it.

[–]alphawhale12 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

On first watch, I felt like I just watched a guy get sandwich cucked. Then I realized that if he fought back, grabbed his bag, and bulldozed his way out of there, the privileged refugee victim status plus out of context video recording the encounter would have fucked him. Don't blame him for walking away, bet he's done doing that kind of thing though.

[–]Bythoku 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's funny how this guy who wanted to be a "cool and altruistic man" by filming himself giving things to people in need is becoming "this guy who's going to vote Trump"

[–]golfballwackerguy 31ポイント32ポイント  (14子コメント)

That's what I feel like when I'm paying taxes

[–]Astarvingfartist 31ポイント32ポイント  (15子コメント)

This shows a lot, it only takes a small minority to ruin everything for the majority. There's so many people who didn't do anything but everyone will remember the Ass holes.

[–]Excaligoat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those who did nothing are also assholes for doing nothing.

[–]surp_ 56ポイント57ポイント  (8子コメント)

is it really the minority

[–]Recl 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

(it's not)

[–]seltzeronmydesk 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

off topic but CNN really has gone in the fucking dumpster lol. 24/7 anti-trump network. They don't even give reasons to support Hillary now.

[–]tittoast 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

"small minority"

you have some reading to do

[–]The_blue_pen 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck them. They know what is good and what is not. They can say what they want about, 'having to do to survive' but at the end of the day...this is why people don't give a shit about the problems of others. Myself included.