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The /r/reddevils Official Formation/Line-ups thread (self.reddevils)

spoofexKing Cantona[M] が 投稿 - announcement

We know you're all desperate to share what you think your line ups will be. And now that we know our squad is more or less complete, we'll give you that outlet.

Post your 5-3-2/4-4-2/2-1-7 etc here. All other formation and line-up posts will be removed.

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[–]BeatorexacDe Gea 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

4-2-3-1 De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Smalling, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Martial , Ibrahimovic

Personally, I would like Mata over Rooney but that's not going to happen.

[–]Kenna-Smalling 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As tantalising as it may look on paper, I'm not convinced Martial, Mkhi, Zlatan and Rooney should be in the same team. None of them really do enough running off the ball. They're generally more interested in coming to the ball and making plays instead of being on the end of the plays - if we have no one buzzing around the opposition defence and making those required runs, then it's a problem.

Having one of Lingard or Rashford in the team will go some way to solving this.

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    [–]Lord_SchelbJose F. Busby 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    people are expecting his team of the season performances from his two saints seasons. I personally hope Jose can bring him to his best again.

    the majority of our players werent really performing under LvG so im willing to give chances to most players.

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      [–]Lord_SchelbJose F. Busby -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

      He needs to be better than his saints days to be in a title challenging team

      Altough that could be true, I think Morgan on that kind of form is the best option within our squad, and we would need to sign a better DM to bench him.

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        [–]Lord_SchelbJose F. Busby 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Was that meant to be clever?

        no, just meant to be a healthy discussion between fellow fans.

        So even for your point to make sense, he still needs to get back to that level of a year ago..?

        Of course, thats why I said I believe part of it could be LvGs fault as most players didnt perform under him, and I believe Mou can get him back to that form, using him in a better role. thus he should be given a chance.

        [–]BurfobinoDaily Sexy Blind 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Blind > Schneiderlin imo

        [–]WaxTaxMaxPogba 19ポイント20ポイント  (19子コメント)

        4-2-3-1.

        DDG, Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw, Carrick - Pogba, Mkhi - Rooney - Martial, Ibrahimovic.

        [–]deepit6431Scholes 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

        The "We're finally decent in FIFA" lineup.

        [–]BHButcherThe Ginger Prince 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

        That FIFA 08 team was my favourite. Hasn't been the same since

        [–]deepit6431Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I was thinking the same thing! This is going to be our best FIFA squad since 08.

        [–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Probably the best lineup, but wouldn't be shocked to see Lingard start Sunday.

        [–]WaxTaxMaxPogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Of course, this is the line up for me and think the most likely line-up Mourinho is going to opt for, if everyone is fit and on form.

        [–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Tbf I think he's earned it, for this game at least. I also think Jose will be keen to show that he's willing to stick with some of the academy players.

        [–]United7s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Isn't he injured?

        [–]Mt264 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

        I think this will be the initial first choice, once everyone's match sharp.

        Carrick will be saved for specific games. That role will be rotated quite a lot with Blind and Morgan.

        The most interesting one is Rooney. He will start in the team, but No 10 is the position we have most options for - Mata, Mkhi, Herrera, Pogba. He's going to have to bring his A game if he wants to stay a first team starter.

        We have so many options next season! Mou will enjoy it.

        [–]WaxTaxMaxPogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I agree with Rooney point, I don't think he's anywhere near perfect, but neither is Mata and Herrera, both have their own set of problems to play there. Mkhi might be a great option there, but he was and I think bought to fill in creativity on the right side and Pogba is obviously going to inject energy, technicality and creativity in the midfield. Will be interesting to see how the season unfolds.

        [–]Mt264 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yep. A lot will depend upon form, and then tactics for specific games.

        I can see us playing Morgan and Pogba alongside Carrick in tough away fixtures, for example.

        [–]MrD3athGiggsy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Honestly don't understand how everyone still considers Blind a midfielder.

        [–]Mt264 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Maybe. If he stays and Mou has faith in him, I really do think he will be our new O'Shea - he'll play CB, LB and DM if he's called upon. Not as well as our first choice, but that's the whole point of a player like that.

        I'm still not sure how Mou rates him.

        [–]DerpyNerdy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He can read the game well, is intelligent with the ball (unlike Fellaini), has a good passing range, has an eye for killer balls (remember our flying dutchman RVP header against Spain?) and he can defend.

        So, why can't he be a holding midfielder? Sure, he's not the best but he's better than the other options. Unless Schneiderlin really steps up his game this season, we don't have any solid holding midfielder.

        [–]DerpyNerdy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

        But this line up doesn't play to Pogba's strength (Judging from his Euro performance). Pogba should be in the hole behind Ibrahimovic.

        http://i.imgur.com/KCVQCG8.png

        Has anyone ever considered that Blind can play one as a holding midfielder? He seems to be the strongest defensive midfielder in the squad (judging from how well he did as a CB) and his passing range is fantastic (his World Cup performance). In addition, he has the brain and he's able to read the game better than most.

        So, why would Blind be a bad choice for a holding midfielder?

        [–]BurfobinoDaily Sexy Blind 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        People are basing their opinion on Blind on his first season here, where he played some matches as DM, and where he wasn't half-bad settling in. I think he improved tremendously, and actually expect him to be a starter for a majority of games this season.

        [–]Mt264 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I thought the same, but then I watched that 25 min highlights video someone posted, showing Pogba from last season.

        His most impressive work was surging from deep. He reminded me of Yaya as much as anyone in his style, and combo of physical and technical attributes.

        I can see him playing at 10 in tough away games, but dropping deep to make a 3rd midfielder when we don't have the ball.

        In easier games, I thunk he'll play more as a traditional CM, with someone else at 10.

        Options! Love it

        [–]prototype9XRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Best possible line up

        [–]United7s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That's a tough team. Haven't seen a team that tough at United since Rooney, Ronny and Tevez led the line.

        [–]GarethGore -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        This, though I think Schneiderlin instead of Carrick, and Lingard + Darmian will often pop up instead of Valencia + Mhki.

        [–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

        No doubt we'll line up in a 4231 for most games but I think there's a good argument for trying a 352 on occasion. I know, I know, it's not worked with any real success in the PL to date. But with Conte and Pep in the league, I think we'll see a resurgence this season. I also happen to think that our current team is very well suited to it. Bear with me...

        Wing Backs: Shaw's pace and attacking prowess are perfectly suited to a wing back's game. Darmian has plenty of experience as a wing back, but I think Valencia's experience as a winger puts him top of the pile here, so to speak.

        Back 3: Obviously Bailly, Smalling and Blind are the favoured 3. With Rojo, Jones and Darmian, we've got ample players suited to playing in a 3.

        Midfield 3: With 3 CBs, we'd have the freedom to play with only one DM, freeing up room for some combination of Mkhi/Pogba/Mata to roam forwards and spark some creativity. In a 4231, I feel like we aren't able to bring enough creativity from the middle of the park. Particularly if we're using Rooney as a 10.

        Strikers: Playing with 2 strikers allows Rooney to leave the number 10 role. It also leaves more space for Rashford to prove himself, or even for Martial to play as a striker again.

        For several reasons, I don't think this will be (or should be) our most common formation. But the ability to switch to a different shape would be valuable. I think we've got the personnel for 352 to be a serious option.

        Positives: It shakes things up a bit when games become stale. It gets Rooney out of the 10 role. We've got some talented crossing wing backs.

        Negatives: Players like Martial and Memphis wouldn't get much of a chance to play out wide. It might be too far removed from our regular 4231, leading to some tactical confusion.

        Any thoughts?

        [–]ashish16lunaCarrick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Theoretically your idea is excellent. However, knowing Mourinho, I believe we are going to see saw between a 4-1-2-3 and 4-2-3-1, where Mourinho will line up based on the opponents, the main difference being how much freedom Pogba is given, and the midfield partner is paired with.

        When you partner with Carrick/Hererra, Pogba will have to do some defensive work, but paired with Blind/Schneiderlin he can play further up the pitch.

        [–]shoshon3PO6BA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 is most likely right? All I know is Blind > Morgan.

        Maybe Pogba plays next to Blind behind Rooney (until he gets pushed out)? I could also see Pogba/Blind playing behind Ibra at #10 when Rashford is up top.

        DDG
        Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw
        Blind - Pogba
        Rooney
        Miki - Ibra - Martial

        Would prefer Pogba at #10 and Carrick next to Blind to start. But Wazza isn't going anywhere just yet.

        [–]HesseLingladIt doesn't Mata! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        4-3-3
        Martial Zlatan Mkhitaryan
        Pogba Lingard Blind
        Shaw Smalling Bailly Valencia
        DdG

        4-2-3-1
        with alternative fits
        Zlatan/Rashford
        Martial/Memphis-Mkhitaryan/Rooney/Mata-Mkhitaryan/Lingard
        Pogba/Herrera/TfM-Schniderlin/Carrick/Blind
        Shaw/Blind/Rojo/Young-Mike/Jones/Rojo-Bailly/Blind/TfM-Valencia/TfM/dMian
        DdG/Romero/Sam

        4231 XI
        Zlatan
        Martial Mkhitaryan Lingard
        Pogba Carrick
        Shaw Mike Bailly Valencia
        DdG

        [–]DerFussballgott 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        4-3-3 is the dream in the long run for Pogba but I don't think we have the depth required for me to be fully comfortable playing it. We'd probably still need another addition or two in midfield for that to be the case and I don't see that happening this Summer obviously. Therefore the 4-2-3-1 just suits the squad better as of right now as it hides some of our depth issues in midfield and incorporates Rooney and Mata, which are still players that have to feature until Mourinho brings in replacements that are upgrades.

        It'll be 4-2-3-1 to begin with for the next short period and who knows after that. Mourinho will inevitably make changes to his preferred lineup which may also include the formation.

        [–]BHButcherThe Ginger Prince 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        There seems to be this one popular lineup that everyone prefers but I won't be surprised if we hardly ever see it implemented. Have a feeling players like Lingard and Fellaini will be played more often than we think. Like how LvG would refuse to play the diamond we all wanted to see with Di Maria and co. We'll see though

        [–]SSA10 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        4-4-2

        http://bbc.in/2aKDWq7

        Obviously in reality Rooney will be played as Mourinho favours him, but even as captain I can't justify him starting with the other talent available. Also in reality I doubt a 4-4-2 will be used as Mourinho will probably keep the back 6 outfield players more rigid with flexibility for the front 4 only to attack, but if I could have it my way, it would be the old-school 4-4-2 United with bombing full backs and crosses. We certainly have the strike power to play that way. Also with the speed and power we now in our team I still think Carrick can do it consistently. Class player.

        Can't wait for this season.

        [–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I don't think it'll happen as long as Rooney is fit (because Mou could lose the dressing room if he's dropped) but I'd still love to see us go with a 4-3-3:

                                DDG

      Valencia    Bailly   Smalling     Shaw

               Schneiderlin/Carrick

           Herrera                 Pogba

 Mhkytaryan            Zlatan             Martial

        [–]DJkoolkidzklanMartial -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I think we can all agree that with Paul a 4-3-3 would be ideal to get the best out of him immediately. Either Ander, Carrick, or Schneiderlin beside him on the right and either Mkhi or Mata at the 10, but it seems that it'll be pretty hard for Rooney to lose his place...

        [–]BigbuckyballRonaldo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        4-3-3 with a number 10 and 2 CM/CDM. Isn't that 4-2-3-1 or am I missing something here?

        [–]GroteBergMan98Memphis -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                De Gea

                Bailly           Smalling

    Valencia                                 Shaw

                        Schneiderlin

                                          Pogba

                 Rooney


        Mkhitaryan                           Martial

                            Zlatan

        [–]boddah7 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        "No Roo in midfield" - Mou

        [–]GroteBergMan98Memphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        More number 10 role this

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          [–]hunkdaddyMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          He's been slightly underwhelming, yes, but that can happen for a number of reasons. He wasn't played consistently at all, and his style of play didn't really fit any of his midfield partners bar Herrera I think.

          He's a ball winner and he needs a high energy creative player beside him, and that would be Pogba.

          [–]labtecozaRonaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          DDG

          Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw

          Pogba Carrick

          Mkhitaryan Lingard Martial

          Zlatan

          Or a 4-3-3 with

          Schneiderlin

          Pogba Carrick

          Mkhitaryan Martial

          Zlatan

          [–]daboy23Shaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Lingard on the right and Mkhi central would be more effective

          [–]George_Beast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Rooney no where to be found in this line up means it's our best line up

          [–]Mt264 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Everyone seems to agree on our best (on paper) back 5 and front 3.

          People are much more uncertain about the midfield.

          I'm just really happy we have so many variations we can play. This will really suit Mou.

          I can see a midfield three of 

               Morgan.  -   Carrick.  -   Pogba

          Potentially working well in tough away games.

          Something like

                 Morgan
 Mkhi.     Pogba

          Being a really good potion against teams who are defending a lot.

          So many exciting combinations

          [–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          First XI

                     Ibra
 Martial  Rooney  Mkhitaryan
      Pogba  Carrick
Shaw Smalling Bailly Valencia
          De Gea

          Second XI

                    Rashford
  Memphis   Mata   Lingard
     Herrera Schneiderlin
  Rojo Blind Jones Darmian
           Romero

          Combined XI

                               De Gea/Romero

           Bailly/Jones/TFM  Smalling/Blind
Valencia/Darmian                          Shaw/Rojo

         Carrick/Schneiderlin
                      Pogba/Herrera/Fellaini

Mkhitaryan/Lingard  Rooney/Mata  Martial/Depay/Young

                Ibrahimovic/Rashford

          [–]HighOnNicotine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          First team with back up for each position.

          Going with a 4-3-3 because I'm pretty confident José will switch to make sure Pogba plays in a 3 man midfield.

          [–]NGU-BenSchweinsteiger -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Just don't play fucking Rooney, please don't play Rooney. He's going to be our downfall.

          [–]boddah7 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          4231

          DDG; Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw; Carrick, Pogba; Mkhi, Mata, Martial; Ibrahimović

          [–]Tshekovsky -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Tough call between Rooney and Mata but I picked Rooney - http://bbc.in/2b4WG5l

          Edit: 433 variant http://bbc.in/2aYVxIx

          [–]AirIndexLVG is dead, long live LVG -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          4-2-3-1: De Gea, Valencia, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw; Schneiderlin, Herrera; Mikhi, Pogba, Martial; Ibra.

          Pogba always seems to do his best work further forward and we saw how shackling him worked out for France.

          [–]seihandaShaw -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Our current squad fitting 433 playstyle and I think we should try it.

          ---------------- De Gea --------------

          Valencia - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw

          -- Carrick - Schneiderlin - Pogba --

          --- Mkhi - Ibrahimovich - Martial ---

          [–]SweatyHands247 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I'd go Carrick OR Schneiderlin with Herrera on the right instead

          [–]seihandaShaw -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          well, it's actualy herera and carrick rotating in RCM.

          [–]satanicnightjar -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          4-3-3 DDG Valencia/Darmian--Smalling/Blind--Bailly--Shaw---------------Schneiderlin--Pogba--Henrikh Miki-----------Lingard--Martial--Zlatan--

          [–]idunlikeu -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          4-3-3.

          De Gea, Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw, Schneiderlin - Herrera - Pogba, Mikhi - Ibra - Martial.

          [–]rambotajaMartial -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        4-2-3-1
                DDG

          Valencia-Bailly-Smalling-Shaw Schneiderlin-Carrick Mkhi-Pogba-Martial Zlatan

          [–]Not_wun_wun -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Here's what I think is our most exciting lineup, not necessarily the one Mourinho will play.

          4-2-3-1

          De Gea, Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw, Schneiderlin / Carrick - Pogba, Mkhitaryan - Mata - Martial, Rashford

          [–]serious_dan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Amazed that Lingard gets so few mentions in this thread. Going off recent performances he absolutely deserves a first team place.

          4-3-3 Martial, Ibra, Mkhi / Pogba, Carrick, Lingard, / Shaw, Smalling, Bailly, Valencia, / De Gea

          [–]EddieMcDowallBuchan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          4-2-3-1

          ------------------------De Gea

          --Darmian-------Smalling------Bailly------Shaw

          --------------Schneiderlin

          ----------------------------Pogba

          ---Mikhitaryan---------Pereira----------Martial

          -----------------------Ibrahimovic

          Bench: Romero, Valencia, Blind, Herrera, Lingard, Rashford, Rooney

          [–]mufc710 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          De Gea

          Valencia-Bailly-Smalling-Shaw

          Carrick

          Pogba-Mkhitaryn

          Rooney

          Martial-Zlatan

          4-1-2-1-2 (diamond/4-4-2 of sorts with Martial & Mkhi providing the width)

          [–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Miki as a LCM? Martial as a striker? This doesnt make much sense mate

          [–]seihandaShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Put martial left and mkhi right with striker duo of rooney-ibra then pogba behind striker.

          That's more like it if you want 442 diamond