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[–]SipsSparklingWaterBlue Berry Flavoured [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

women only feel the need for shoes and Alpha Males

They feel the regular emotions everyone else does.

[–]alreadyredschoolRational Egoism > Toxic Idealism [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

What about sparkling things? Bitches love glitter.

[–]susandeathhas a towel with diamond studded cocks [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Glittery shoes are the best.

[–]Sandralees [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes but what about handbags?

[–]susandeathhas a towel with diamond studded cocks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

ohh yeah them also, petty much just all the glittery stuff. In fact I bet if guys sent glittery dick pics they'd have more success with them.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wtf is wrong with these people

[–]ZazieGallimard"❄️Special❄️Snowflakey❄️" [スコア非表示]  (42子コメント)

It's fucking bullshit to believe that women can't be empathetic. Here's a list of the things I am capable of feeling: amusement (the best), happiness, love, lust, jealousy, fear, annoyance, pity, sadness, disgust, guilt, shame, and fear. I'm definitely capable of empathy but I feel pity more often.

[–]Kyle2166Red Pill [スコア非表示]  (41子コメント)

Most people aren't empathetic. Or at least they don't show it.

[–]ZazieGallimard"❄️Special❄️Snowflakey❄️" [スコア非表示]  (35子コメント)

Now come on Kyle we are all in this together. It's not that difficult to understand the feelings of others. Alter our own behavior because of them (or show it to use your words) prob not, but understand them, yes.

[–]Kyle2166Red Pill [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Empathy isn't understanding others feelings. That's sympathy. But I didn't make that comment to call out women, men are just as bad buy and large. People are more often than not self centered to a fault.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (33子コメント)

And once again only a woman would really understand empathy as being about 'understanding the feelings of others'.

[–]ZazieGallimard"❄️Special❄️Snowflakey❄️" [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

What exactly is empathy then? Tell me and I'm sure I'll believe it whatever your "teknique" for communicating it. I'm capable of a vicarious experience. Are you?

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

Very hard to describe to women. I would describe it as a visceral feeling of responsibility for another person's well being. It's literally feeling their emotions, not just being able to understanding their emotions and reflecting them in turn.

Of course, average women will only be able to understand this in the context of their own experiences and will recklessly apply their misunderstanding of what I just said to them. This is why I prefer not to discuss this matter with women who are easily outraged, as you clearly are.

[–]speltspelt[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's not empathy, that's codependency (nor is it unique to men).

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Absolutely not. Not once did I ever make any mention of reliance. There are too many people in this subreddit who display a disturbingly casual attitude towards precision of terms.

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

That's not the dictionary definition of empathy.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

It isn't the exact dictionary definition, no, but that doesn't change what I'm saying. The dictionary definition of empathy is not particularly useful to this discussion.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wtf? Stop making up your own bullshit definitions

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

If I see someone get hurt, I flinch. That's because it's like I can feel their pain. Sociopaths (people who lack empathy) actually don't react the same way, which is why you see some of them being sadistic.

[–]c_in_macn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I doubt that. It depends on your oreconceived judgement of them beforehand.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Because you're sensitive and emotive, as women generally are. You recognize their pain and imagine feeling it, or you have a natural reaction to bad things, but this isn't the same as real empathy. It's always about how it relates to you.

[–]Sandralees [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Downvoted. This is not Dune or Star trek. We are supposed to use the official dictionary definition, not a definition you invent as you go. WTF?

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My definition does fit the official definition, but the interpretation is different.

[–]ZazieGallimard"❄️Special❄️Snowflakey❄️" [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

I'm not outraged UT. "Chill" is my middle name lol. I'm just trying to clarify what we think empathy means. I'll tell you something else for nothing, I ain't average lol. But empathy doesn't imply that you are "responsible" for the feelings of another, only that you can put yourself in their position. Feel what they feel, not make them feel what the feel. Very different things. Brush up UT.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I'm not outraged UT. "Chill" is my middle name lol.

Yeah, don't bullshit me.

I'll tell you something else for nothing, I ain't average lol.

You don't get to decide that.

But empathy doesn't imply that you are "responsible" for the feelings of another, only that you can put yourself in their position.

Yes, this is exactly how a woman would describe empathy. Thank you for proving my point without making me jump through hoops.

[–]ZazieGallimard"❄️Special❄️Snowflakey❄️" [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Lol. But UT, that's the definition. Whatever my emotional propensities may or may not be.

PS. I'm not "deciding" that I'm not average. Life, experience, observation, and men tell me that.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Well funnily enough, the definition is described as the ability to 'understand and share the feelings of another'. Understanding and sharing aren't the same though, and how a person defines 'understanding' is also up for debate. How much can you really understand another person's feeling if you don't also share that feeling? I would say not really. My point is that appealing to semantics is not really going to help your argument here.

PS. I'm not "deciding" that I'm not average. Life, experience, observation, and men tell me that.

Sure.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

You just think you're smart don't you.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I think you're particularly stupid, based on the fact that you've taken to spamming my inbox, which is saying a lot for this sub.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I just have a lot of shit to say xD all the dumb shit spewing out of your mouth. Damn.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Are you supposed to be the hilarious, sassy woman of the sub or something? What the fuck are you contributing?

[–]WolfsoulsClassic AWALT Queen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There is no feeling of responsibility inherent to empathy, that's bullshit.

One understands and reflects on the emotions of others, after literally feeling them through empathy.

Like if I see someone fall and embarrass themselves on stage, I will cringe and feel all of their embarrassment in that moment. However, I wouldn't jump out of my seat and get on the stage to help them out. Because upon reflection, I realized that doing so wouldn't be necessary, and might even make the performer feel worse.

Maybe men are more likely to go into "white knight" mode when they feel empathetic, but that feeling of responsibility does not make you more empathetic.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You've misunderstood, as I knew every woman here would.

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

And here I thought the people who lack empathy are called sociopaths...

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

They think women are sociopaths XD

[–]GroovyEFS[X A N A X] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Lol this guy watched Gone Girl and thinks that's what all women are like.

[–]GroovyEFS[X A N A X] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's my job! How dare they imply women do it better than me!

[–]sydnerella11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

These are general statements, but think that hardcore feminists often do lack empathy. I also think that TRP people who subscribe to the beliefs you are describing also generally lack empathy. This is not an issue confined to one gender or another, I believe it is a societal issue that has many nuanced causes.

For various reasons, we live in a very politically and culturally polarizing society. Any extreme ideology often discourages empathy for the perceived enemy of their ideology. This is through the use of stereotypes (extreme feminists may view all men as evil, rapists, sexist, whatever. On places like the red pill, women are hamsters, children, inferior, sluts, whatever). Both attitudes feed the other and when they meet, provide validity to the other's beliefs.

So I'm trying to convey this to you, because I think it is quite easy to fall into these kinds of mental traps.

Beyond what you see with these extremes, our culture does not value empathy. We are currently very individualistic. Note: I'm NOT advocating a political ideology, but capitalism does reward productivity over empathy. I'm not likely to find a well paying job for displaying great empathy. If I don't have a well paying job, I may not be able to afford the lifestyle I aspire to. To varying extents, this kind of society encourages me to prioritize my needs over the needs of others. This does have cultural effects, but also psychological and interpersonal effects.

Of course, there are numerous positives to this kind of society as well that deserve consideration, so I'm not advocating we get rid of capitalism. Again, nuance.

As for your question, yes - women are capable of experiencing love, empathy and the full range of emotions men experience. Most of my close female friends do love men and empathize with their struggles and misfortunes as well. Same for my male friends and partners. I have met women who lack these qualities, as I have met men who lack these qualities. I choose not to be close to individuals who act as the *latter, but no - this isn't always easy to find depending on how social you are, what community you live in, even your age, etc.

Edit: I said former when I meant latter. My bad.

[–]StickItInTheToilet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel pretty, oh so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and light. And I pity any girl who isn't me tonight (suck it, bitches!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHtBxOs4qw

[–]alreadyredschoolRational Egoism > Toxic Idealism [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Random people on the internet do not state scientific facts, they state their own opinions. Stop breaking your head over this bullshit.

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Can't we have a discussion? Lol

[–]drok007Anti-Blue Pill [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

No. Have it with the person whose random opinion it is, not everyone else.

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not a random opinion, I have seen quite a few people say it.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's what the bitch is trying to do by making the thread

[–]drok007Anti-Blue Pill [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

She was having a conversation with him already. She decided to make a whole thread about a conversation she had with one person.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The same emotions men feel, wtf kind of question is that

[–]bunnings_warehouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The same as men, what kind of fucked up question is this?

[–]HumanSockPuppetEqual-Opportunity Oppressor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Florence Nightingale wrote on the subject of women's lack of sympathy (she was writing a critical response to a male author's book). You might find her insights interesting, not least of all because she's a woman.

In general, I hold her observations to be fairly accurate and well-elabourated.

[–]prometheangambitPurple MGTOW [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Obviously women feel emotions. Hell, molerats and dogs feel emotions. They possess the limbic system and adrenal glands necessary for a full emotional range. Those tears come from somewhere.

Women commit suicide because - like men - they can feel like a burden for their mere existence and imagine they would be better off dead than alive. I weep for both. Cold world.

They just don't feel empathy for weak men. Surprise surprise, neither do men. Nobody feels sorry for disposable males, and the more weak they are, the more disposable.

Where RP takes the next step, however, is that women - on average - can be more ... shallow with their emotional depth. This allows them to get over break-ups in-between a menstrual cycle as they trade up to a better man while they absolutely disregard all those shared memories together, tender loving moments, or other fairy-tale concepts. It might as well have never existed.

But I'll throw a little Purple Pill in this mix: women have far, far better support groups than men and - most of all and this is most important - people give a shit about their suffering. So that could easily be the source of their supposed shallowness: the hurt they do feel, they "get over" with hugs, support, and a healthy dose of hypoagentic rationalization for every beta orbiter's shoulder to cry on.

[–]jkonrad [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They don't feel empathy for weak men because they are not weak men. They can't relate any more than we can with them. In some areas, empathy is impossible.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

To quote some poster here

I have a name :(

OP, all of your emotions are real, it's just that your understanding of them is wrong. Women understand empathy from a more logical perspective, it is not a visceral feeling. Women aren't more empathetic than men at all, it's just that they're more emotive and sensitive so they cry at the thought of someone in suffering, but they aren't really empathizing with that person.

This doesn't mean you're a bad person or that your emotions aren't real. Of course all of your emotions are real, it would be ludicrous for anyone to suggest otherwise.

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What the actual fuck?

[–]ThatGreekLadyNon-Red Pill, anti-romantic[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Then why is femininity associated with empathy? I feel cheated by the RPWi.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because people confuse empathy with women's natural sensitivity and emoting. Women absolutely are more 'empathetic' in the way that you understand empathy to be, but the way you understand empathy is flawed.

The big problem is that we have two meanings, but only one word to go around. My argument is not affected by dictionary definitions. What I will say is interesting is that the dictionary definition is relatively neutral between my understanding of the word and yours.

[–]WolfsoulsClassic AWALT Queen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What the actual fuck. If crying because someone else is suffering isn't empathy, then what the hell is?! You're literally feeling that person's emotions. There is a visceral feeling of sadness spreading from another person's sadness.

You're not being very empathetic by assuming the way YOU feel and understand empathy is the only "real" or correct way. You're completely dismissing the way women feel and express empathy.

[–]UnbelievableTekniqueBanned from TRP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're not being very empathetic by assuming the way YOU feel and understand empathy is the only "real" or correct way.

That's not what empathy is.

[–]despisedlove2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Women don't love men. They generally love children alright, often at cost to their lives.

[–]DrunkGirl69chill pill [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Mostly I just move between really excited and slightly less excited, depending on the situation.

[–]GoingSolow [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Women feel all the emotions we do, they just lack the self awareness and introspection to control them.

[–]OfSpock [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Men lack the self awareness and introspection to realise when they're experiencing emotion.

The number of times I've heard "I'm not angry!" punches something

[–]GoingSolow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No they realize they're feeling emotional, they just know they're not allowed to show it.

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[–]Ringoddess [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Women are controlled by their feeeeeelz but they have no emotions these heartless sloots

[–]XXYukieXXAll of yall are assholes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What's wrong wit em fam? XD