Girls may be sugar and spice and everything nice, but in the no holds barred, winner take all tournament to the procreative death known as the sexual market women are just as ruthless – perhaps more ruthless – than are men to their same sex competition.
How do women undermine other women? They employ two strategies.
1. Ostracism/shaming.
Ostracism is public shaming. And despite the torrent of nonsense, (of which feminists have a seemingly inexhaustible supply), asserting that men are the primary slut and fatty shamers, that honor actually belongs to women.
2. Disinformation.
The other tactic women deploy to kneecap their competition is far more invidious. Women are adept at the art of disinformation campaigns, a strategy that both superficially soothes the fragile egos of other women and manipulates them (borrowing a legal term) to declare against interest.
Disinformation is essentially the propagandizing of pretty lies. Its power rests on an implied flattery. “You don’t need to slim down to find love, because you’re great just the way you are!” The hope of disinformation propagators is that their marks are gullible enough to follow their bad advice, thus reducing the number of sexy female competitors for the tiny pool of desirable alpha men.
(Remember from the CH archives that women feel the pressure of the sexual market more acutely, in part because there are far fewer alpha men for all the women who want them than there are bangable attractive women for all the men who want them for at least a night.)
A classic example of strategy #2 is this PuffedHo demotivational poster.
bikini is now a synonym for elephant hide
Women, especially loser women, love love love to hear these platitudes that validate their romantic worth, but the reality that would result if women followed this deceptive advice is more fat and ugly women (waddling around beaches in tent canvases) and more desirable men focusing all their attention on shrinking numbers of slender women. A sexual desirability skew of this nature would be a godsend for the hotties, who would experience an increase in their options so profound that the entire SMV sorting system would seismically shift. Thin cuties would be able to amass multiple greater beta orbiters and extract commitment from alphas who would otherwise pump and dump them or ignore them for hotter prospects in a dating market within which female attractiveness was more evenly distributed.
It is therefore in the interest of every red-blooded man to call out this manipulative female bullshit wherever and whenever he sees it. It is his DUTY to warn women against the forked tongue of other women seeking to cripple their competition with fat and ugliness apologia. Beauty is truth. Aesthetics is no mere formality hinting at deeper revelations. Aesthetics IS revelation. Chateau Heartiste has made this maxim central to its mission statement with full understanding of its cosmic importance and its centrality to all that is good and true.
[…] How Women Undermine Other Women […]
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> “Beauty is truth.”
http://www.bartleby.com/101/625.html
Beauty is truth, truth beauty, – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
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And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
http://www.bartleby.com/108/43/14.html#S59
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Veritas is the motto of Harvard University, Drake University, Providence College, Knox College (Illinois), Bilkent University, the University of California – Hastings College of the Law, as well as the Dominican Order of the Roman Catholic Church, and Providence College, which is run by the Dominicans…
“Veritas” is included in the motto of Indiana University and Yale University, Lux et Veritas (“Light and Truth”). It also appears on the California State University’s motto Vox Veritas Vita (“Speak the Truth as a way of Life”). “Veritas vos liberabit” (“The Truth Will Set You Free”) is the motto of The Johns Hopkins University…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas
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What’s a bikini body? Tits and gina only with nothing else?
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I think it’s implied that you’re ready to wear a bikini in public without looking bad. Obviously the flow chart ultimately shows that all women are bikini ready… even the 500 lb. land whale… assuming she got a spray tan and a wax. Nauseated from just typing that out.
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no no no, no tan or wax necessary. no standards allowed. everything goes. if they had more room they’d have a block for ‘do you have skidmarks showing through your bikini bottom’
this is ‘public womanhood’. private womanhood is hyper-protective of turf, brutally catty and undercutting of other women, and absolutely remorseless with their attacks on each other. this chart is the facebook sisterhood face they put on, and that the fatties hope is reality.
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public v. private womanhood is an awesome, unexplored concept.
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> “public v. private womanhood is an awesome, unexplored concept.”
Especially when it comes to the privacy of the voting booth.
The DEMs have a massive voter gap when it comes to single -vs- married women.
Married white women vote overwhelmingly GOP.
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Complimenting a fatty on her “curves” is an act of evil.
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@Anonymous![:)](http://megalodon.jp/get_contents/287457304)
Nah… Gotta have nice long legs, tiny feet, skillful hands, tight deltoids, nice face, unblemished skin, tight-tummy, delicious mouth, pouty-lips, great hair, and a sweet round a** for spanking too…. See, guys like to have the “whole” woman since there are so many things we can use them for… Variety is the spice of life – tits and gina only going to go so far you know….
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yea bitches always telling my chick to gain weight
talk about negging
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“Your short hair looks REALLY great!” “No seriously, it does. You should cut it even shorter… it’s cute. It shows off your eyes.”
Heh. Evil. Straight up.
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Good cracky on a corn nut role if I haven’t heard nearly that same conversation at least a hundred times in my life. And *always* to the pretty girl who gets her hair chopped, and always from the less value women who are now booster in SMV by their “friend” lowering her own SMV with the boy-haircut.
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search YouTube for “men, we know how to be friends”
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I just posted the same shit. Amazing isn’t it? Yeah , lets simulate hair loss and possible disease to attract men….
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A timely post. One of my fb friends just posted that stupid Jennifer Lawrence quote about how she’s obese in Hollywood. I commented something about how obesity kills millions and anorexia dozens. He went off on me saying that she wasn’t promoting obesity. And of course she isn’t. Directly. But her message is hey I’m obese and cool with it, so if you’re obese that’s cool too. The very point our proprietor was making.
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That wasn’t her point. Her point was that she ISN’T obese, or even fat. And she isn’t.
If anything, her message would stop a 16 year old with JL’s body from snorting amphetamines to get down to Lara Flynn Boyle size. Not sure why anyone would have an issue with that.
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Where are all these girls that are snorting amphetamines to lose weight? I’m sure not seeing them. We don’t have an anorexia epidemic in our country, we have an obesity epidemic and people like Jennifer Lawrence are perpetuating that by spouting off these ridiculous comments. She’s not doing anyone any favors.
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@yak, well it’s unlikely they’re doing it in front of you. I’ve known more than a few women who’ve taken amphetamine based drugs for rapid weight loss.
I never said anorexia was an epidemic. We do have an obesity epidemic, but Jennifer Lawrence’s comments have nothing to do with it. Her point was that she is not obese. Unless you think she IS obese, I have no idea what your problem is with her statement. She’s not a fat apologist like Lena Dunham.
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@yah Jenn Lawrence is straight crazy BPD, as are 40% of hot girls aged 22.
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Jennifer’s real problem is that she chopped off her hair. This is never a good career (or dating) move.
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> “BPD”
A man can never read [and learn] enough about BPD.
But start here:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/the-evisceration-of-penelope-trunk/
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/01/penelope_trunk_abuser.html
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@Grim
I had no idea Jennifer Lawrence was in her early 20’s. I had to look it up. She doesn’t do it for me so I never cared about her age.
Is this what young women look like now? I’ve seen younger looking women in their 30’s and 40’s. What a sad state of affairs. And the soccer mom haircut just adds to it.
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@Grim
Jennifer Lawrence is in her early 20’s? She doesn’t do it for me so I never cared about her age. I’ve seen younger looking women in their 30’s and 40’s. What a sad state of affairs. The short haircut isn’t doing her any favors either.
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Amy, cause and effect or symptoms. She chopped off her hair because of the BPD.
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You should be on the manic search for a beta male ring while your SMV still high, but in free fall mode. And not wasting time on the board. LOL.. Mid 20’s my guess? By 25 shit really starts to hit the fan. Alphas notice the loss of the sublime facial fat, eye shrinkage, loss of voice tone, hair texture, crows feet, tnkgrrl attitude, higher number, inevitable fat goes in the wrong place. Yes, I would have given you a ring five years ago, but not now and you would likely not even get a date. A greater beta, however, would take the offer (get them while you can!).
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but jennifer lawrence would not be cool with being truly or even nearly obese. imagine if her size really was considered overweight (it’s not, she’s not losing work for her weight, she’s not shunned or unattractive to people).
the quote’s just like the chart, a ‘go girl’ chant to keep other girls happy being fat so there’s less competition. making 300lb girls imagine themselves as ‘fabulous’. and for shitty white knights to fly their flags proudly.
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Haha. Exactly. This guy was white knighting the shot out of my post. Even called me a moron. I’m thinking of quoting some Keats:
“Beauty is truth, truth beauty,” – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
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But she is sort of chunky. Look at her large flabby arms and the little bit of back fat the sneaks out of her dress. She has chubby cheeks and is in for a Kirsty Alley career.
Show as hot chick -> weight watchers -> has been career -> weight watchers.
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She is skinny Obese:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1386670/thumbs/o-JENNIFER-LAWRENCE-570.jpg?5
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Re JL photo, looks like flabby upper arms. Seems a body type like my ex gf before my wife, small tits and a bit heavy, requiring constant work to maintain weight.
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That is because faggots run hollywood. You think normal men like bony chicks? Sure, super skinny is better than overweight.
Jennifer Lawrence is a good looking girl. Not super hot like a Victoria Secret model, but better looking than bony twink chicks with no ass. The faggots love those because faggots like skinny boys.
Soft, slender and feminine – not “curvy” and not bony – is what we want. Each guy can then customize for boobs, ass, legs – hair color. We’re not too picky as long as she ain’t no fucking mule, pig, whale or pow camp survivor.
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exactly. i can’t believe that eric guy called her obese. he must not like breasts. usually closeted guys want flat girls.
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jennifer lawrence is not fat, but she’s got a big frame and thick arms which indicate porker potential. if she’s not careful, or if she takes her own lies to heart, she’ll be a fatty by age 30.
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Zodak, because I’m feeling generous (and you might have a reading problem), here’s a link to some of her quotes.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4521379
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Them and the girls. Girls might not like girls , but as girls go they think girls that look more like boys are better. Then they blame heterosexual men for concentration camp skinnies when the only thing missing at a fashion show is, having no appreciation for bony girls in a fag’s rag, are men. “Da fuck?” I always say about it.
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Very skinny girls look NOTHING like boys. There is a difference. Maybe I cannot quantify it, but there’s a different shape to the hips and the legs, and the upper body, and … everything.
Maybe if it’s a very very skinny boy the difference is not so obvious, but a guy with no muscles at all is pretty unusual.
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“jennifer lawrence is not fat, but she’s got a big frame and thick arms which indicate porker potential. if she’s not careful, or if she takes her own lies to heart, she’ll be a fatty by age 30.”
She’s an apple shape, plus she has full cheeks. All the arms tell you is where she will gain the weight. She has my body type except she’s much taller and she’s probably about 25-28% body fat. For Hollywood, that’s high. Compared to most of the female population, she looks pretty good (with long hair).
Women with uneven fat cell distribution (apples, pears) have to worry more about body fat percentage than natural hourglasses do. That’s just how it is. She’d look better at 20-22% body fat.
[CH: like i said, she’s not fat now, but she has the potential to pork up if she’s not careful or if she heeds her own lies.]
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Reading this thread makes me think that people obviously have an instinctual eye for fat potential in women without even trying.
Even without the help of formal discussions about wrist and finger size, etc. many of us see red flags in certain characteristics on our own ie: chubby cheeks, flabby arms, pasty skin on what at first glance appears to be a slender healthy woman.
We are honed into these details because they are traits that give us a sense of what the future might hold. They are markers that indicate trouble is almost inevitable.
These observations must be rooted in experience somewhat and some people are more in tune with these visual clues than others but I wonder how much of it is based on natural instinct. It would be interesting to know if any studies have been done on the subject.
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Soon as her career starts to decline you will see her come out of the closet in People magazine;she will proudly hold a “liquor license”!
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A while ago, the wife of one of my cousins was putting up fat apologist crap on FB, and I criticized it. After a certain amount of hamstering, she apparently decided that I was right. Fast forward a few months, and she’s down 30 lbs (and getting female plaudits, just the same as if she decided to be a fat crap who didn’t care).
To borrow a phrase from a certain govt agency, “if you see something, say something!”
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Right, and the fb female plaudits are posted just to lend the ‘support’ that those same women will expect reciprocated at some future point in time. Therefore it’s support for either/or/both/whatever condition her ‘soul sister’ happens to be in.
Which brings up the other key point. Womens’ alliance with other women, and their seemingly-unconditional vouching for anyone of their gender-tribe generally, is ultimately perpetuated for extractionary and usurious ends. Even ‘close friendship’ for most women lacks any kind of true ‘soul connection’. That ‘close friendship’ is utilitarian and a fragile house of cards as soon as any high SMV male were to blow on it just a little.
The opposite is true of mens’ friendship, generally. This is due in part to the fact that by default, until/unless they sell their soul to satan, men have honor and integrity. Take that drink, Tilikum!
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It also goes to show, ironically enough, that men outrank other women in their minds.
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there’s a family guy clip that’s a synopsis of what you wrote
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there’s a family guy clip that’s a synopsis of what you wrote
Aww, is there? That must make you so happy. The Jew-created anti-White, anti-conservative filth mockingly called “Family Guy” showed you something, and you consider that such an authority that merely evoking the show’s name in a thread means the theory is right.
I don’t think what Steve says needs your “It’s true, I saw it on Family Guy” validation.
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They also won’t hesitate to throw a third party under the bus if need be. Last year I saw a weird situation where I knew Girl A and Girl B were competing for a guy. Girl A has hair down to her butt, Girl B has short hair that barely goes into a ponytail and one side of her head shaved and dyed a funny color.
Within earshot of Girl A, Girl B was chatting with her friend Girl C, who had recently hacked off her hair. Girl B kept harping on how AWESOME! it looks now, and “ugh, long hair is such a hassle, short hair is so trendy… You look a thousand times better now…” Would not stop it and kept looking over to Girl A, who ignored the whole thing.
Girl C slowly started to realize, “wait a minute, is A calling me ugly?” and almost broke down in tears but her supposed friend just kept on pushing, I guess with the hope that Girl A would somehow be persuaded to go get a crew cut or something.
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Women are very separate, and their motions of cooperation are also constant checking of their status and guarding against a blowup. Because otherwise they don’t know. Everything is arms-length even if they’ve known each other for years.
You see gay guys about 100 times more often than lesbian women. The thought just would not occur to them.
Guys have access to a deeper level emotionally if they can handle it, just like they have access to a deeper level physically. A girl doesn’t have to tool to penetrate the vagina nor the emotional shell of another woman.
But since relationships with men are so extremely important to women, they will try to be very careful about them, shit-tests and so on.
I don’t think it’s that men have or do not have honor and integrity. It’s that they have a capacity to get beneath the surface. At the same time they may be less attuned to the signals that are visible at the surface with expert observation.
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Girls on the margins of sexual attractiveness might do this, because they are more likely to be in direct competition with fat girls for men. But the attractive girls don’t feel threatened by fat girls, at all. In any situation. This is kind of like the middle class attacking the poor. The rich aren’t worried about differentiating themselves from poor people. The middle class folks are.
I’ve never encouraged anyone to be fat and I’ve helped quite a few friends and co-workers develop diet and exercise programs– IF they ask me. But I don’t shame fat girls and I never will. It has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to limit competition. It’s not even on my radar. To me, fewer fat chicks means men will start shaping up too. That’s a bigger dating pool all around. (No pun intended)
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Really busy today but has anyone commented on another angle on CH’s post?
Girls’ “best friends” will whisper the divorce fantasy into their friend’s ear who is married with children. The single “best friend” is not giving good advice to her married friend, whether intentional or not.
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I think that’s a far better example of what CH is talking about here than this. Amy’s right. Thin girls aren’t the ones pushing the “fat is beautiful” mantra, it’s the fat girls hoping to increase their own SMV.
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> “The single “best friend” is not giving good advice to her married friend, whether intentional or not.”
Particularly if the single “best friend”
A) Has her sights set on the husband, or
B) Is a closeted dyke who has her sights set on the wife, or
C) Is a miserable evil witch [think Maureen Dowd] who wants the happy wife to be divorced and single and lonely and miserable just like her.
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My wife’s divorcing best friend did that “you should divorce him too” thing.
Then she tried to initiate a threesome with my wife and I last New Years. Unfortunately, she’s turned from a hot blonde 8 I would have enthusiastically banged into a bit of a porker – so “hell no” was my answer.
I still don’t know if she was after me, or my wife.
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> “I still don’t know if she was after me, or my wife.”
And here’s the really sobering where-pretty-lies-vanish truth of the matter: She [the ostensible “best friend”] probably didn’t even know herself.
I don’t agree with the worst cynics on this board, who maintain that all women are worthless, but I do agree that a remarkably small percentage of women show much evidence of possessing even the tiniest modicum of common sense.
And morality – an innate, inherent, visceral sense of the difference between right and wrong – certainly seems to be foreign to the female nature.
But the most honest answer to The Frankfurt School Nihilist’s question, “What do women want?” is that many [nearly all?] women simply do not know themselves what they want.
Which, among other things, presents a tremendous opportunity for the sociopaths to move in and “tell” women what to want.
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I disagree slightly on one point ZS; that visceral sense of morality is probably inherent in everyone, male or female. The predominant cultural doctrines have pushed a “me first” mentality for years, and women, the herd followers, have sold the farm to completely buy into it. They’re certainly indecisive and impulsive, but used to have a much clearer picture of what they wanted until this liberated Western culture made it a policy to dangle rotating rampant rabbits and a myriad of options on mobiles above little girls’ cots. I’m only parroting what you’ve written many times previously. In a very simplified sense, it appears to me that women know how to sow discord, whereas men are the instruments of violence in the world
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Meant to say that visceral feeling is then buried under all the me first indoctrination
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> “that visceral feeling is then buried under all the me first indoctrination”
I hope you’re right.
Because, if so, then that sense of morality could be re-awakened in them.
But I’m not foolish enough to get my hopes up in anticipation of that sort of a re-awakening happening any time soon.
For the near future, I see us all slugging away on our own, doing our best to preserve the old ways.
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There’s a great scene in the Sopranos when Tony’s in hospital and Paulie Gualtieri expounds his philosophy on life surmising that “we each and every one of us are alone in the ring, fighting for our lives”. A rocket scientist explains Schroedinger’ equation to him, about the interconnectedness of lifeforms. A rapper then nods sagely and summarises with “errythang is errythang”.
Just looking at the recent extent of observable human history (5-7000 years), we’re in a drastically unique era where electricity has only become commonly used in the last 80-100 years. So for 50-70 centuries humans existed in a radically different manner to how they are in our single century. Then we can further differentiate human behaviour into the TV and computer/smartphone epoch we’re now in, which is only a few short decades. It’s no wonder we’re fundamentally warped versions of human beings having undergone such quick changes, and in many ways immoral human behaviour is somewhat excusable and to be suspected under these experimental conditions.
The Frankfurters are goading everyone on and trying to debauch us in every way imaginable. “Like violence kid? Here’s an addictive interactive computer game, rap music and some horror movies that’ll really whet your palate for blood and sharpen your hair trigger. Like boys little girl? Here’s a SATC box set and some 50 shades to really skew your expectations. Like normal and familiar modes of existence society? Here’s some gay marriage and homo-erotic culture shoved down your throats to destabilise your community. And while we’re at it, let’s just have everyone disfigure themselves beyond recognition with tattoos”.
It’s difficult to see a morality re-awakening occur under these conditions all right. But you’ve probably already seen me mention something I consider a cause for hope, which is Falun Gong. It was introduced to the Chinese public in 1992, and by 1999, 100m people were practising it. It’s very specific about upgrading one’s moral standards, so it’s impressive that such a rapid improvement in societal morals could occur in an atheist country in just a few short years. Their government has unsuccessfully tried to eradicate it since 1999, however. I’m absolutely delighted to have stumbled upon it here in the west, and have brought my own behaviour up to scratch. As for society, if some people are making an effort to improve themselves, others might follow their lead.
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Girls on the margins of sexual attractiveness brutally utilize fat girls to make themselves appear more attractive than they actually are. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen middling, slightly-chubby but marginally-cute 30ish y/o chicks posting pics of themselves in between two fat ‘friends’. That whole night was about that photo-op and perhaps getting laid or at least flirted with some higher-SMV guy who said ‘meh? why the fuck not. this one’s not totally hideous’.
It occurs to me that men can lose weight simply to meet a personal goal they set to better themselves generally, and they can do so quite easily via sheer willpower. It also occurs to me that the only women I’ve known who have lost weight have done so when and only when hypergamy absolutely demanded it of them – as they were absolutely miserable in either a shit-relationship or desperate chronic loneliness, that they might be legitimate market contenders for the first time in years.
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But, rich people will piss on other rich people, usually at the same country clubs and with a sugary sweet smile on their face. Just like pretty girls will cat up other pretty girls without the slightest shred of humanity if they think that they’re competing with them in any way, and sometimes even not that, sometimes “just because”.
“I…me…I…me…I…me”, you need to learn that every situation does not require an “AWALT” personal anecdote.
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NAWALT. Damn, rented fingers.
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Lol, personal anecdotes abound on here. With all due respect, unless you’re the beta orbiter/gay guy who does GNOs or you were some kind of sorority mascot, I think I know more about how girls act toward each other than you do. I’d never venture a guess on how guys act toward each other in groups.
Yes, hot girls are competitive with other hot girls. That’s not what the thread is about. Hot girls AREN’T competitive with low smv girls, and that’s because they don’t need to be. This idea that hot girls are out there strategically boosting the egos of fat chicks to raise their own market value is totally absurd.
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false dichotomy. it’s a sliding scale. the hottest chicks aren’t the prime disinformation aggressors. most feelgood bodybad disinformation is spread by marginally cute chicks (say in the 5-7 range) who really do compete with a larger pool of women.
furthermore, hot chicks do engage in this sort of misogynist subterfuge, even if they aren’t consciously aware of what they’re doing. in fact, from an evolutionary perspective, it’s better if they lack self-awareness of their evil.
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Yes. Women verbally speak and physically behave in a diametrically opposite fashion in the abstract (social media) vs. in person (at bars/clubs/parties/etc).
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> “furthermore, hot chicks do engage in this sort of misogynist subterfuge, even if they aren’t consciously aware of what they’re doing. in fact, from an evolutionary perspective, it’s better if they lack self-awareness of their evil.”
Expound?
Thanks.
[CH: one, it’s evolutionarily costlier to include self-awareness as part of the gene imperative package. two, a keen sense of one’s own SMV machinations could have negative blowback on one’s reproductive fitness. if hot chicks knew how they ostracize, and how badly it hurts their victims, they might not do what is necessary to give themselves a leg up.]
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> “how they ostracize, and how badly it hurts their victims”
Can you give some examples of how they unknowingly and unintentionally ostracize?
I always thought that the cool kids were perfectly well aware that the nerds and the losers were forbidden to sit with them in the cafeteria.
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Wouldn’t attractive girls be concerned about competition from similar or slighly less attractive other girls? There’s always competition near you on the SMV spectrum wherever you are located. And for girls, the competition is based on looks.
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Of course, but a 7-9 girl competitive with an obese girl? No way.
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Sure but it’s all on the margins. The hot girls don’t have to become obese to lose to other hot girls, but 10 lbs could be the difference
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And there are different ways to compete. You don’t have to compete by knocking others down. You just make yourself better. People are attracted to success and positivity. The most popular girls are good looking, but don’t knock down other girls to get ahead. Doesn’t mean they’re not competitive, though.
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“Sure but it’s all on the margins.” I read that as margarine.
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This is kind of like the middle class attacking the poor. The rich aren’t worried about differentiating themselves from poor people. The middle class folks are.
When does the middle class attack the poor? The middle class is controlled by the media. They will not say Politically Incorrect things in public.
They might, however, criticize Blacks and Arabs for attacking women and burning cars, but that is not criticism of poverty. Most in the middle class go out of their way to praise the poor, because that is what the Left wants.
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I didn’t really see any stats, so I’ll drop some morsels here.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db50.pdf
From
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
[these are all “self-reported” numbers to the CDC, so they shouldn’t be taken as absolute numbers. However, the directions of the trends are probably accurate. Obesity is defined as a BMI > or = to 30]
More than one-third of U.S. adults (34.9%) are obese. o_0!
Non-Hispanic blacks have the highest age-adjusted rates of obesity (47.8%) followed by Hispanics (42.5%), non-Hispanic whites (32.6%), and non-Hispanic Asians (10.8%).
Lower income women are more likely to be obese than high-income women.
There is no significant relationship between obesity and education among men. Among women, however, there is a trend—those with college degrees (23%) are less likely to be obese compared with less educated women (42%!)
Also, watching the time-lapse of obesity rates over the continental US is.. instructive.
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One of the women I see regularly is 92lbs, at 5’1″. One of her “friends” told her she needed to put on some weight, and I quipped with, “Says the girl that needs to lose 40lbs.” That was the last time she made a comment about my girl in my ear-shot. We were at a dance, and my girl was in a skin tight red dress (like I like them) – of course the “land-whale” was in a tent… Shame, she could be cute if she lost the tonnage and got a personality transplant.
I heard from the other girls that they get tired of her Feminist, “fat-is-beautiful” BS. Good to know that other women recognize it for what it is.
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Honestly, that wasn’t the best game on your part, even if you were right.
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so fucking what? he wanted his girl to know to not gain weight and it was a cool way to tell her he thinks she’s hot without being beta
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Yeah, it was rude but proportionate to the other girl’s comment (one weight recommendation deserves another) so it was OK.
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Honestly, that wasn’t the best game on your part, even if you were right.
So you want to criticize him for calling out a fat girl who tries to make slim girls put on weight. And to make it sound like that’s not what you are doing, you criticize him for not having “game”, borrowing from the blog’s terminology. Clever.
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Oh, that’s adorable.
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One of her “friends” told her she needed to put on some weight
A 92 lbs(!) adult human does need to put on weight.
Honestly, weight-related issues are the silliest thing I see on this site. A BMI of less than 20 is sickly skinny, dudes and chicks both.
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You’re entitled to your preferences. The people who hire fashion models prefer extremely thin. And near-starvation has been shown to lead to the longest lifetime.
I love to eat so I’ll enjoy the years I have. Fortunately my wife watches her weight and is naturally skinny anyway.
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A BMI of less than 20 is sickly skinny, dudes and chicks both.
Nope, a BMI under 18.5 is underweight. Don’t just make stuff up. And how many girls have a BM under 18.5? Your BMI comment is just a strawman.
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“A 92 lbs(!) adult human”
Ah, the old exclamation-point-in-mid-phrase, ‘we should be shocked by this’ gambit.
Guess what, the girl is 5 feet 1 inch tall. There’s nothing wrong with her weighing 92 pounds.
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Fucking awesome game. Demonstrates your standards to your girl.
5’1″ at 90 lbs looks pretty great, for all the haters:
http://www.mybodygallery.com/photos-27259-body-shape.htm
http://www.mybodygallery.com/photos-38666-body-shape.htm
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@Lumpy: GREAT site! This woman is the closest that I see with a quick search:
http://www.mybodygallery.com/photos-9571-body-shape.htm
Love how the tummy and hips are clearly separate – that is what makes her look similar. One of those features that really does it for me. Tiny, tight, and perfect…
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they directly undermined em too around here to get rid of competition like have them put in jail with anonymous tips
or have a cousin come in from another state and beat the other bitches teeth out
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well I guess still indirect in way
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sweet jesus man where are you hanging out
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the wrong place although I guess fun in way too
keeps it exciting
lost her teeth over hanging with me too much I think can’t prove it though
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Dass how dey roll in da hood
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that is hardcore undermining in an obviously extremely competitive sex market
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Tyrone talking again.
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kind of weird really the dudes don’t fight over chicks the chicks fight over dudes
the dudes usually fight over money
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It’s almost enough to make me agree to fat shaming. But not really.
One can communicate the same message far more incisively, and far more kindly, by being more detailed. “Did Sarah tell you to cut your hair? She must just want your guys for herself, I like your thick hair much better than her thin straggles. Keep your hair!”
If she starts to see what’s good about herself, it may help her out of depression enough to stop eating all those cookies and ice cream, and to dump Sarah as a friend instead.
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my bitch been bricked in head three times since I known her
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Man you should leave Africa already.
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but someone got to save the whites that are here too
I got to build gregi’s arc first
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but yea almost done with my purgatory for being in Iraq bout out of here
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Your advice is sage, in the year 1991. Have you met many real life landwhales these days? The time of the “I make up for my fat by being sweet and nice” are over, bub. They are now mostly belligerent, demanding, arrogant and loud. If the girl is actually a sweet girl, sure, be nice. Talk to your average beach boulder though and you’ll encounter nearly sheer evil levels of anger and hate. There’s nothing to be gained by being nice and they’ll rip off your head and shit down your throat and laugh about it while doing it. To hell with those slags, shame them to the n-th degree.
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> “mostly belligerent, demanding, arrogant and loud”
Especially in the college towns.
The sense of self-entitlement together with the hair-trigger on the nukular temper-tantrums is pretty dadgum horrifying.
We’re even seeing it in many of the cuter chicks now [like HB7s].
> “To hell with those slags”
If trends from the last 45 years continue, then these Blue State chicks with The Darkness in their hearts will continue to have Total Fertility Rates substantially below replacement level.
So either they’ll go to real, actual Hell – if they murder their babies in the abortuaries – or else their family trees will head off into the metaphorical Hell of extinction – if they simply grow old and barren and childless and inundated in cat fur.
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Yeah my calibration is more from like 1991. Though even then the fat ones had more mental problems, the fairly hot ones have always been the most normal and the best relationship material.
And I can’t think of the last time I talked to a land whale. Seriously. We really don’t have them in the non-slum suburbs of NYC. Or if we do, I don’t know where they hide out.
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That’s the heart of Charles Murray’s Belmont -vs- Fishtown allegory [or metaphor or WTFE the correct literary term is].
That even in White America, you see a rapidly increasing chasm developing between slim, high-IQ, college-educated, stably-married, church-going families with children [Belmont], versus the obese, lower IQ, uneducated, single-with-children, high-on-methamphetamines-every-Sunday trailer trash [Fishtown].
And you’re seeing it now in the voting numbers – McCain won college edumakated whites by 1% in 2008, and then Romney opened that up to a massive 18% landslide in 2012.
Whereas Obama won re-election in 2012 on the backs of lower IQ working class “blue-collar” Catholics in the midwest rustbelt [which, in turn, is a point that Steve Sailer has been trying to hammer home – that the GOP could still win national elections if they could bring the Reagan Democrats back into the fold].
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you must be the dad from that tv show “Seventh Heaven”!!!
what a big sweetie!
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ill agree on the cutting hair ya got to nip that in bud quick
make sure she knows all the gay guys at salon want chicks to all cut their hair short to remove the competition
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True story. Two girls having a convo. One says “You’d look better with short hair”. The logical Q is to ask the friend is why she has long hair if she thinks short hair looks so good. A man would have done but women never seem to do this.
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I’m trying to think of ANY chicks who look better with short hair.
Dana Delany
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=dana+delany
Dana Delany China Beach
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=dana+delany+china+beach
Janet Evans
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=janet+evans
Janet Evans Seoul
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=janet+evans+seoul
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Here’s a really sweet picture of Janet and her family:
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With Janet Evans the difference is amazing. With long hair she is an attractive woman. With the chopped hair she looks like a lesbian, I’d stay away!
I don’t think I can recall a woman on whom it made so much of a difference, even though it often makes a lot of difference.
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Heartiste, back in this post https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/comment-of-the-week-deere-john/ Just Saying mentioned how he and his swinger girl targeted a married woman who stormed off in an argument with her husband. Just Saying and his girl end of banging the married girl (raw dog even). He was putting the married lady down for ruining her marriage for some people she just met. I mentioned that it was his own swinger girl who initiated the contact and helped this married woman ruin her vows.
This is yet another way women undermine other women. It’s sport to swinger women like this. The married woman’s friends, on the other hand, would just suggest she could do better, so I’m not sure how much tamer that is that what the swinger chick did.
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if you are good looking chick in a shithole you will learn to be devious as fuck to get revenge learn how to fight and learn to be a mean motherfucker
or leave
or die I guess
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if you are a good looking guy in a nice place, you will learn to be devious, mean, etc…..
hehehe
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hhahahaha
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yea no matter where ya are got to pull the strings he he he
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Ain’t no good looking girls in shitholes
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right cause they can all be rescued by betas right
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Women in competition for a man are utterly ruthless and vindictive towards one another. When a man is banging another man’s woman he usually, I believe, has some feelings of guilt and sympathy for the ‘victim’. Where the situation is reversed the woman revels and rejoices in the misery of the other, even when, as is usually the case, she’s completely innocent. I’ve seen this too often for it to be a coincidence.
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Man, that’s some scary shit you’re talking about.
Are you in Ireland proper [either Northern or Republic of]?
Or are you in the USA?
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Where the situation is reversed the woman revels and rejoices in the misery of the other, even when, as is usually the case, she’s completely innocent.
That is not an indication of how all women are. It is an indication of how those women are who sleep with other women’s husbands.
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What is the opinion of the regulars here on a low carb diet? I know mangan and CH agree with it, but there IS that Swedish study about increased risk of cardiovascular disease.
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I do high protein/fat, low carb. Your concerns were my concerns for a while, but after ten years of watching strict Adkins/Paleo types *not* die of heart disease I started it. Did some blood work last month for insurance reasons and came up in the normal healthy range on cholesterol(s) and triglicerides, my BP was 110/62 and my resting heart rate was 59, and all the rest of my scores were at the same levels as those of a 19 year old athlete. Weight is fantastic and it’s actually hard to keep it from falling more (you find a weight that works for you then start upping vegetable type carbs until you reach an equilibrium). It’s perfect for weight lifting as well, you don’t have to bother with whey protein supplements. Just be strict about it for your induction phase.
Swedish “studies” I’d hold as suspect, they really don’t want their men developing the higher testosterone that comes from this kind of diet. Why, if they did that they might even remember that they were once vikings and not the butt of Europes mangina jokes.
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“Swedish “studies” I’d hold as suspect, they really don’t want their men developing the higher testosterone that comes from this kind of diet. Why, if they did that they might even remember that they were once vikings and not the butt of Europes mangina jokes.”
This is wrong. Sweden is the first government to officially embrace HFLC diet.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/
Pretty soon all socialized health care nations are going to have to adopt it because they can’t afford not to.
“Sweden has become the first Western nation to develop national dietary guidelines that reject the popular low-fat diet dogma in favor of low-carb high-fat nutrition advice.
The switch in dietary advice followed the publication of a two-year study by the independent Swedish Council on Health Technology Assessment. The committee reviewed 16,000 studies published through May 31, 2013.
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interesting. i predict a global run on sexy slender swedish girls in twenty years. let’s hope they have the good sense to close the borders by that time.
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Swedish “studies” I’d hold as suspect, they really don’t want their men developing the higher testosterone that comes from this kind of diet
Ridiculous comment. The paleo diet is big in Sweden and Swedes are far healthier and slimmer than fat Americans, but Slavs, Meds and the other mongrels of course never miss a chance to make an ignorant comment about the hated Germanics, now do you, bub?
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Arbiter, your race-detecto-meter is off, you may want to re-calibrate it. I am solidly English and Scottish with no deviations (family, both sides, recently emigrated to America after WW2. Direct import from Airstrip One, as it were). Last check, the English are Germanic (and Celtic) and the Scots are, as I’m told, Gaelic aka Celtic. D’oh! Sorry, bub.
It was a tongue in cheek comment, I respect the living hell out of the Scandinavian culture prior to the 1950’s, and am especially fond of Sweden during the from rune writing pre-Viking time through the Renaissance. What exists today in Sweden however is a shameful, revolting situation and Swedish men bear a lot of responsibility for not standing up to their women and saying “No, no further”. No amount of your “germanic pride” can refute that. Bub.
@Scray
It takes a good week or so for the lethargy to pass but when it does you feel quite normal, good even, and anonYmous gives some great advice on this as well if it’s going beyond a week.
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The Burninator
Arbiter, your race-detecto-meter is off, you may want to re-calibrate it.
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No its not.
If he is a white person he is fully QUALIFIED to DECIDE who is white and who is not.
If he can decide and KILL you when he wants to, then he is the white supremacist.
This is why racism = White supremacy.
The criteria is not DNA, nationality, family history… its a DECISION made in the mind of a white person, based on whether they DECIDE you are qualified to be mistreated on the basis of color.
I dont know if underbiter is a white person, but I suspect he is because he acts like one.
Then again, he could just be another Leo Felton trying to compensate for his poor racial hygine.
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Keep telling yourself that thwack, while conveniently whistling and remaining silent when blacks vote 95% for Obama based on…his nice choice in suits? No, on his race. Y’all are as racist, if not more racist than whites, own it and get on with life. It’s part of the human condition.
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Every time I have tried a low carb diet, I’ve ended up extremely fatigued. Instead of low carb, I just make sure that maybe only one serving of food per day is simple carbs.
My CV and strength/muscle gains have come the fastest with a balanced diet. High protein, high fat, all/mostly complex carbs. I don’t really watch my calories, but that’s just because I’m so active these days.
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The first thing to check if a person is experiencing fatigue on any low carb(no less then 20g/day) diet is water and electrolytes. Morton lite salt is the easiest way to get electrolytes. Or if your a nerd like me you mix that with No Salt and Baking Soda to make sure I get the right balance. Upon waking i take 2 cups of water add 1/2 teaspoon of morton lite salt with a dash of no salt and baking soda. Also, you need a ton of water on low carb, starting out you will go though at least a gallon a day. The best water to drink is legit spring water, if you can tolerate it. Bottled water has no minerals in it which is not really a good thing but to me its better then most tap water.
As a last resort if you are still fatigued then add L-Carnitine, CoenzymeQ10, L-Arginine and DHEA. heh.
Some other wierd causes of this is Candida Albicans, which Floranex treats, and the last one is the ratio of fats to protein. Some people need more fat to get low carb to work right.
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That sounds like a good tip. I’ll give it a shot. I’m coming up on a point where the bodyfat is harder to lose.
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@scray
If getting ripped is your goal look into leangains. (Has anyone ever said “no, I don’t want to be ripped.”?) It’s an intermittent fasting method that’ll fit nicely with your current macros.
The short explanation:
Here’s a good place to start with more details: http://rippedbody.jp/2011/10/08/leangains-intermittent-fasting-guide-how-to-do-it-by-yourself/ [Trigger warning: a lot of shirtless pics of dudes]
The /r/leangains reddit has pretty much everything else you’d want to know.
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Re: low carb fatigue. I’ll echo anonYmous, electrolytes make a huge fucking difference when eating low carb. You need sodium, potassium, and magnesium. Here’s the specifics. If you’re getting leg cramps it’s a good indicator that electrolytes are the issue. Skip the gatorade to get them, get something like nuun tablets, stock, or brawndo.
There’s a two week-ish adaptation period to low carb diets as well, where it’s expected to feel a bit shitty/fatigued:
I know some people just don’t work well with low carb diets either. An ex tried real damn hard to go low carb and struggled with fatigue, no adaptation in sight. *shrug* An extra half sweet potato on her plate and more bacon for me.
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Thanks for that info, I’ll check it out
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I thought I would expand a little bit because someone posted a link that had some good information, but id add that people need the bicarbonate that is in baking soda, it helps the kidneys get rid of some stuff from meat digestion. It also helps stabilize stomach acid. Especially the biproducts of meat and any type of broth.
I listed some supplements, Id say to not use them at the beginning, except for the l-carnitine that is fine for starters, as well as a good multi-vitamin I use vitacost low carb multis.
A normal resting pulse is going to be somewhere around 60-70 bpm for someone “overweight”. If they are low in electrolytes it will be elevated, like 80-90 and the body will have a difficult time with thermoregulation, such as difficulty getting warm or trouble cooling. The best way to gauge if the body has enough water is though the veins on top of the hand. Stand up, keep ur hand low and look at the veins, and then lift the hand up vertically and notice where the veins lose definition. You should be able to keep some definition up past the heart. That is why a low carb dieter should sprinkle morton lite salt on pretty much everything they eat. And about 1 quart of water per 6 hours plus or minus depending on how much “overweight” they are. That will get you 2 to 3 bathroom trips every 6 hours.
Id also like to mention that ALL artificial sweeteners stimulate insulin production. Believe me or not, but they do. So basically I can have one can of diet mt dew a day and it wont throw me off of ketosis but it will slightly suspend it. Anything more then that and im off of ketosis.
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Here is how we are supposed to eat: every 4 days we successfully kill a buffalo, and we gorge on its meat. Then we don’t eat much at all for the next 4 days until the next time we kill a buffalo. Repeat.
No bread.
I’m 5’11” and 165, all muscle. I do the atkin’s diet (as I understand it) without trying, because having lived in this world I derived how to eat. So every day I eat almost nothing but eggs, steak, fish, chicken, and I drink milk and water.
I also eat at McDonald’s a few times a week….but skip the fries and drink water. A tasty burger or two is only 600 or 800 calories, but I didn’t really eat lunch that day.
I don’t get my cholesteral or whatever checked because there is no reason to do that.
Also I’ve never had a kidney stone or any problem, unlike my plant eating girlfriend who’s same age and had to pass one recently.
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eat to macros
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MacroDonalds?
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yep.
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What is the opinion of the regulars here on a low carb diet? I know mangan and CH agree with it, but there IS that Swedish study about increased risk of cardiovascular disease.
And what do you know of that study? Like most people you have just heard that “there was a study”. Headline stuff. First of all, the increased risk was very small. “5% increase in the incidence of cardiovascular events per 2 unit increase in the 20 unit low carbohydrate-high protein score”, the study said. Compare that to the huge benefits of continuing being healthy and slim. Second, the study was unscientific in many ways.
How did they know if women in the study had increased or decreased their carbs, fat, protein, etc? You can only know that by knowing what they ate before the study. And how was that determined? By a survey. Not by following the women’s diet for a while.
How many women answer truthfully how much they eat in a survey? According to the answers, 10 percent of the women would only have been eating 1013 calories a day if you add up their answers. Which is enough in itself to throw out the entire study.
How was the survey conducted? They had to answer page after page of questions of how much they had been eating for the last six months. How much dry cereal did you have in the last six months? How much pasta? How much rice? Boiled potatoes? Fried potatoes? Oatmeal porridge? Other porridge? … 57 questions like this. How much per month, how much per week, how much per day, and your portions during the last year.
There is no one who can answer that. And therefore, the survey was meaningless in determining what the women had been eating before the study. And therefore, you can’t decide how much each woman’s diet has been changed, and in what direction, when she takes part in the study.
Besides, how do you make 43,000 women stick to a diet for 15.7 years? The test results from that are meaningless.
For a good critique of that study, here is Denise Minger:
http://rawfoodsos.com/2012/07/01/bad-science-strikes-again/
The post is long, but it is very informative. She also notes that: “And best of all: towards the end of their paper, the authors eventually acknowledge that the “low carb, high fat” diet pattern in this study was a far cry from what actual low-carb programs promote”.
Yes, that’s true. The study used a higher carb intake and a lower protein intake than what is actually prescribed in paleo diets.
I could quote the whole post, but it is better to read it yourself. Anyone who asks about that study, or who wants to talk about that study, should read Denise’s post first.
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like my chick really nice to other bitches but yea has had to set up some revenge shit cause got to defend herself
she do like to steal dudes from chicks though for sure
she leaves me some bitch getting kicked out her house pretty much is how it goes
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The only thing I dont’ understand about this manosphere theme, is why we need to do anything. Can’t we just vote with out wallets/eyes/c***s? I mean it’s not like we’re all lining up to get with beached whales; this pretty lies stuff, even if it assuages the ego, is often belied after a few drinks when some mediocre specimen, says, you think I’m pretty, don’t you? I mean they know it, we know it, everyone knows it.
It’s like guys, we know it’s good to be funny, smart, witty, tall, ripped, handsome, famous, high status, etc. No one needs to tell us. We see which way the girls go and who they end up with. Just as we all hopefully don’t believe in the Beta lies about “being nice,” or we end up alone, women can and should do the same, and judging by sales of cosmo and all the hot girls I see working out, a lot do.
It’s common sense, people like what they like, and you can’t convince them otherwise. These things are not too hard to figure out, and you have to adjust to reality. But there’s no reason to kick people when they’re down. How does that show you to be anything other than a bitter beta boy and a loser?
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The article is about girls sabotaging each other, for reference, not about how bad guys can be towards them.
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you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.
If by now you haven’t realized that calling BS on these lies while holding unshakeable frame INCREASES your SMV, you’re either hopeless or pretty new to the red pill.
Try it sometime. Calmly and confidently state an un-PC opinion in mixed company, make it fun and back it up without ever apologizing. And watch the eyes of the higher SMV girls sparkle as their nether regions lubricate. Perhaps then you will realize the power of the dark side of the female id.
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I’ve been saying un-pc shit and calling out bullshit by women, men, authority figures, and pretty much everyone since I was 12 years old.
But calling a fat girl fat and making a loser like that feel worse just seems lame. The author says, “It is therefore in the interest of every red-blooded man to call out this manipulative female bullshit wherever and whenever he sees it. It is his DUTY to warn women against the forked tongue of other women seeking to cripple their competition with fat and ugliness apologia.”
Why? Women have their own weird intra-feminine dynamics. Who cares? Why not just go out with hot girls and ignore the rest? That’s what I do.
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Ignoring fat apologists is a form of appeasement and self-abnegation. or: biofeedback happens.
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There is no point in using “game” which is a strategy to maximize outcomes for yourself–including the outcome of banging a lot of hot sluts–into some kind of heroic movement to save civilization. Civilization falls in all areas: some girls are hot sluts, others are self-satisfied fat cows. It is what it is.
As for being PC, I’ve been shattering shibboleths of one kind or another since I was 12. No worries there, keyboard commando.
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It’s a fallacy; there are no “self-satisfied, fat cows.” Resigned to their fates, yes… satisfied: no.
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No one needs to tell us. We see which way the girls go and who they end up with. Just as we all hopefully don’t believe in the Beta lies about “being nice,”
except most men do. that’s why it’s called the red pill.
but congratulations on being such an amazing natural alpha male studmuffin.
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I only realized recently that this site and others are populated by lots of geeks who are really frustrated with women and never get laid.
[CH: color me skeptical, but i highly doubt you “only realized now” this unexpected confirmation of your biases.]
I guess I didn’t really think about it, until it became apparent by some of the pissed off stories and geek interests of some of the posters.
[name these interests. ps interest in pussy does not qualify as geekery.]
That kind of failure makes you angry and annoying to winners, i.e., guys who get what they want from life and women.
[you don’t sound happy.]
I hate feminism because it’s stupid and anti-civilization and a pack full of lies. But life’s not that bad, at least not compared to alternatives. Only in people that really hate life do I see a real impulse to take social losers–fatties, short dudes, retards, whatever–and make them feel worse.
[read for comprehension. no one’s saying go out and berate a random fatty minding her own business. if anything, fatties who go to the gym and make an effort get a metaphorical (sometimes actual) nod of approval from CH. fatty apologists otoh, deserve every bit of scorn a winner can dish out. they are messengers of ugliness, avatars of evil.]
If you have female children some day, tell them no boys will want to be with you if you’re fat, obnoxious, rude, overly careerist, etc.
[as a father should.]
Other than that, just let nature and the sexual market take its course.
[what if “letting the sexual market” take its course means a world full to brimming with fat fucks? you don’t think that will have blowback on your personal happiness? because i assure you it will. even if you are the winningest winning alpha male in the world, your sexual life will be much more challenging in a bad way if the number of slender cuties you can choose from numbers 1 in 100 instead of a healthier 1 in 2.]
It’s not harmful to you that women you don’t want to be with are fat; find a good looking one.
[wrong. it is harmful to my interests if women decide being fat is no big deal, and this attitude adjustment increases the mass tonnage of fat chicks waddling around my field of view.]
It’s not like there’s a huge shortage. Most guys with an ounce of anything going for them do.
[70% of american women are overweight or worse. you were saying?]
Tone is not too hard to detect.
[neither is a fupa.]
And I detect a lot of Aspergerish geek bitter losers on this site.
[and yet here you are.]
Hit the gym, get a chick, and don’t spend so much time worrying about the looks of girls you have no interest in banging. What’s the point.
[better: hit the gym, get a chick, and don’t humor fat apologists or nerdboy trolls when they attempt to ram bullshit down your throat.]
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Mr. Roach, “Aspergerish geek” does not equal “bitter loser”. Quite the opposite, the Aspergerish geek has the intellectual tools to get game and the independence of spirit to use it.
Maybe you came by the skills more as a natural. But that’s not the only way to get the skills.
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Oh piss off, studmuffin.
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@mr roach I can already tell you are pretty young and inexperienced.
The guys here are experienced and have been basically obsessing over this like a passion of theirs. The concepts on here are true and are real.
You lose.
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I tells a bitch like dis: “Bitch! You widdout me is like Haaaaiil Mehvin widout the blue notes!!!! Ya nevah go platinum!!!”
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I’ve come more toward CH’s way of thinking on this issue. Awhile ago I was like ‘ya just ignore ’em,’ blah blah blah. The problem is that these chicks spread their bullshit to desirable women.
However, the trick seems to be not arguing with them. I just flat out say things like ‘I disagree,’ or ‘Nah, I’m not a feminist.’ Then I leave it at that. Drives them cray…mainly because I refuse to argue and instead state my opinion. If they give you more guff, just add ‘hey, you do your thing I’ll do mine and we’ll see who’s happier in 10 years. If you are, then I owe you a coke…’ then just smirk and change the subject.
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I tell overweight women to feel confident because I like some of them and I want them to feel positive. My aunt is 52 and 200 lbs. What the heck would I gain from fat shaming her? May as well be nice. Feels better to be nice.
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That’s not a bad strategy now that I think about it. Compliment them and tell them that they look nearly underweight…get them to really stuffing their pie holes…create a medically unsolvable problem which is by definition self solving, or at least get them to the point that they can’t walk out of their houses any longer…hmmmm….that deserves more consideration.
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self solving from the mortality standpoint, wasn’t clear on that.
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Come on Burn. Give little spoon a break. She just wants to be nice.
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More years with your aunt if she lost the weight. Ironic, that trying to convince her that will just drive a wedge in the relationship. Most fat people see well intended advice on losing weight as fame shaming.
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Will you be that heavy at that age?
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Heh, happy I sent this Hufo bikini article to CH. Had a feeling he would have some fun with it.![:)](http://megalodon.jp/get_contents/287457304)
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here we go again just talked chick in jail
some chick saw her when she was getting meds said what are you staring at
she said she was staring at her like she was piece of prime rib in her cell was a big bitch
said she was name a loud mouthed bitch
but yea money is everything
that big bitch got beat fuck out of by another big bitch in cell next to my chicks
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good to know chicks got my chicks back
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hope she don’t end up married in jail lololzlzolzozlozlzozlzz
said she gave the chick that beat other chick our address and phone number to do her nails
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till its you in jail getting ass fucked by ten dudes and no one cares about it lets it happen
then you will care
he he he
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or your in jail and they deny meds you need and just watch you die and laugh
cause they dontcare
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What are you babbling on about?
Jail is for the lower orders such as you and your scummy sounding ‘chick’, anyway.
Hope her cellmate has big fingers.
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lol look in the papers politicians go to jail all the time
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my chick be ok her pussy snap back talkin bout your ass karma can be a bitch he he he
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is tims other name arbiter or am I really collecting haters now
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funny shit is I had a incoming call from the jail while my bitch was on phone someone else getting ass beat I guess lol
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or like my wifes niece telling her i’m gonna marry greg one day point blank
another direct thing
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what about im in club with the blond that wrecked truck and chick walked up in club and punched her in face no reason
these bitches go direct
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my chick said she had dream about dead grandma and was holding hands with her grandma looking at my grave
she thought it meant if she don’t get clean she will lose me
i’m thinking it means my time might be comin I guess
so if I don’t post anymore ever see ya guys prob just means some nig put a few bulets in me to remove the competition
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I am in my 30’s and have a daughter that is 17. I have had conversations with girls who are in their 20’s while I am in line at the store or waiting for coffee. These girls seemed like very sweet and nice girls to me and then my daughter tells me as we leave the store that those girls were mad dogging her and shooting her death glares every time I turned my head.
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Thinking that your daughter was actually your girlfriend or your mistress?
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Hot women compete like hell with each other, more than the ugly ones. Contrary to what Amy says. If there’s 1% of “make myself better” there is that other 99% of “tear that other bitch down”. Maybe Amy is just an unusually kind heart. Yes for sure![:)](http://megalodon.jp/get_contents/287457304)
Discuss: how can men use this to their advantage? Go beyond the obvious observation about “social proof”.
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“Hot women compete like hell with each other, more than the ugly ones. Contrary to what Amy says. If there’s 1% of “make myself better” there is that other 99% of “tear that other bitch down”.
Quite correct, I had thought it was rather a well known thing, quite easy to see in daily life.
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I think I do have a kind heart, but that doesn’t mean I always act the way I want to. I agree hot women tend to be “tear the bitch down” competitive. Obviously this comes from a place of insecurity, and girls on the whole are more insecure than men.
How can you use it to your advantage? Jealousy game. We’re more susceptible to it than you are.
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If there’s 1% of “make myself better” there is that other 99% of “tear that other bitch down”.
Since women have gotten the vote, this philosophy has become standard any time the government intervenes in the economy and in public life.
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I am in my 30’s and have a daughter that is 17. I have had conversations with girls who are in their 20’s while I am in line at the store or waiting for coffee. These girls seemed like very sweet and nice girls to me and then my daughter tells me as we leave the store that those girls were mad dogging her and shooting her death glares every time I turned my head.
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Sometimes it’s hard to understand whether the “secret looks” women claim other women do to them are real or just a product of female hamster imagination; after all, women do the same thing to men, hence how they overreact to a man saying everything is “fine.”
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I have had this happen with my daughter and my niece and I am just making casual conversation with the girls. I don’t hit on women in front of my daughter.
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its real….fun to watch!
instigating that shit is all rape-y awesome.
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Tilikum, how? I have a kid in middle school who has an opportunity to try stuff like this out in the hallways at school. What would be some cool experiments for him to try?
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Rape?
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See what happens if she noticeably calls you “dad” while this is going on.
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I remember a few years ago when my mother(60 at the time) and I, were walking around a tourist trap near Orlando. Cute chicks everywhere, but hateful glances and looks, also everywhere. I asked my mom why these young cuties were glaring at me like I stole their car. She replied, quite naturally, “They think you and I are together”.
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A white guy once told me he thought I might be a pimp because of the way I was sitting at the bar next to a white girl. I was facing out towards the crowd and she was facing the bar.
I had no idea that was a pimp move.
If the economy gets any worse I may hafta go there
(((shakin my head)))
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thwack masta P thinks nothing is wrong with that flow chart, sir!
PA does no know what he thinks until Piggy tells him so.
Double rape!
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Lame, neocon rat. Everybody knows what you’re about. See earlier thread.
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lol. I love how this Occutard-in-Piggy clothing tries to pretend that somehow, somwhere, he “outed” me as in favor of mass immigration and the welfare state…while he is in favor of it.
Did Piggy give you his permission to write here, slave?
Piggy rape!
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You are confused, boy. Nobody cares if I’m an “occutard,” which I’m not. But everybody now knows you as a nation- wrecker neocon rat.
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PA what are you talking about? wf’s comments often make good sense.
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“Do you have a heart beat? -Yes, bikini body”
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P.S. Nothing against you Just Saying. I just wanted to bring attention to the topic of swinger chicks and how they undermine other women.
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Swinger as in fucking another woman’s guy? Or as in fucking another woman?
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You have to read his original post. He is a man. he has a swinger chick with him. His swinger chick got a married woman to hook up with her and Just Saying. That’s another way women undermine other women – they swing them out of relationships.
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Beta (omega?) male of the month http://gawker.com/guy-no-longer-in-love-with-stripper-sues-to-get-harry-p-1579081099
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Couple of good comments:
“My roomate was a stripper, its fucking insane how like a solid 50%+ of guys at the club that come in regularly think they’re dating the stripper. Like they think everyone else is dumb except for them, take a step back bro.”
“Yeah there is a difference between a regular and a boyfriend. Rule #1 Boyfriends never go into the club when the girl is working.
Also, isn’t that her job to make these guys think that there is no difference?”
“I’d say rule #1 if you’re paying for dances she’s not your girlfriend (I used to get free drinks and the occasional dance from a few different girls when it was slow just for being a roomate) also if your date consists of an hour or two and you’re giving her cash for her “phone bill” or “car payment” as she leaves each time, you’re not dating her.”
The takeaway:
1) If you’re throwing beta bux at her, whether in the form of money or expensive gifts, you might be a beta. This goes double if you aren’t getting anything out of it (as if you buy a stripper a drink).
2) Learn basic body language to tell if a girl is open to your charms or is being polite for money. It really isn’t that difficult. If she isn’t turned on, it won’t be as convincing; her voice will be flatter and more businesslike, the sparkle in her eye and broad smile will be absent, eye contact and flirting will be either absent or forced, and she won’t hang around to chat any more than necessary.
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Most men aren’t sufficiently observant to recognize those signs. All they can see are “teh boobiez”.
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I know some people think they’re hot. Yes they have nice bodies, but they show those bodies to everyone and probably get pawed once in a while.
Why would anyone want to date a stripper? I’ve chatted with them to see how their lives are, out of curiosity, but that’s way too dirty to touch.
Another advantage of not putting dollar bills under her bikini strap is that you keep your money.
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“Rule #1 Boyfriends never go into the club when the girl is working.”
False. I used to go and watch my stripper live-in girlfriend often. It was fun to see my friends pretend not to look when she was on stage. I also enjoyed watching her work the room and see the dupes who paid for our apartment, food, party supplies, etc.
“if you’re paying for dances she’s not your girlfriend”
False. I enjoyed getting private dances from my girl plus another and had to pay the bouncer (her money) for both in order to get into the back (no exceptions, ever). Almost got her fired because she slipped and told bouncer that I was her boyfriend and he said that could be considered prostitution because I was actually banging her.
“also if your date consists of an hour or two and you’re giving her cash for her “phone bill” or “car payment” as she leaves each time, you’re not dating her.””
True. Don’t ever give her anything. She should bring all the cash home to you and ask you if she did good.
“Why would anyone want to date a stripper?”
It was my idea for her to strip. College town job market was rough and this provided tax free income, a great workout, free drinks, flexible hours, cool boss, hot clothes to wear at home, dance moves she still uses to this day…
I will never forget that year of seeing her work it on stage. Awesome.
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awesome fun!
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Harry Potter DVDs …
In the greater scheme of things, all orbiters should by family court law be given a monthly lap dance from their BFF as part of their, um, understanding. It’s no more than right.
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lzozlzozo
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/world/europe/russian-billionaire-dmitry-rybolovlev-divorce/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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holy shit lol got to keep apartment in the ghetto just cheaper that way
really all the bs it could always be worse
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yea let me sign off appreciate what I have 50 calls a day bitches want to suck my cock he he he
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why the hell would a rich man even get married anymore
I don’t get it
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no good reason to do it
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Ha! That’s billion with a ‘B’, muthafuckas!
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ha, reminds me of early red pill realizations…
middle school cafeteria. this bitch starts crying at the gash table, something about being fat.
i’m liek well no shit, but i don’t think blubbering burns calories
her “friends” proceed to do all the soothey-soothe sisterhood bullshit, close ranks around her to hide the weak wildebeast…
and end up feeding this bitch an order of cheese fries when they get her to shut up. “sorry (not sorry) you’re feeling (and are) fat, fatty, have some more heart disease. remember your place or i might become the new fatty”
she kept those pounds, alright, and never became the hottie she should have developed into but instead remained as an “also ran” compared to the hoes that fed her the damn cheese fries.
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“Beauty is truth. Aesthetics is no mere formality hinting at deeper revelations. Aesthetics IS revelation.”
“Both sexes, if the females as well as the males were permitted to exert any choice, would choose their partners not for mental charms, or property, or social position, but almost solely from external appearance.” – Charles Darwin. (Descent of Man;1871.)
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It’s obvious that Darwin was a beta.
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Yes, he didn’t need better looks to succeed with women. Or maybe it’s easier now than it was then. It sure seems easier now than when I was a kid, but then I was all confused then.
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It’s technically easier. With great liberation, comes great sluttiness (and VD).
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> “choose their partners not for mental charms, or property, or social position, but almost solely from external appearance”
Jesus Christ, I must be many more sigmas away from the mean than even I had realized.
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Hands up any one who has NOT had a ‘sure thing’ wrecked by some woman only too keen for reasons of her own wishes to keep you celibate. Then again there are those men who usually through blindness to an erotic situation or grovelling Omega-tude sabotage a dead-cert possibility. Men need good wing-men.
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I had a girl’s cat prevent my drive to the close at her apartment. But I’ve never had a girl prevent me from fucking another girl, it’s my impression that they consider that off-limits, beyond their power, too dangerous to their physical safety, or something like that.
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http://www.infowars.com/the-plan-to-kill-the-internet-uncovered/
Already happened. I have posted on this before. About 2 years ago the miami herald and all other MSM stopped allowing anonymous commenting, because the comments are all realtalk (for example on the daily story about a black person shooting another black person). Was a great place to try to educate people. I used to drop red pill and even link this blog regularly and I know idiots who came here were shocked.
now they make one use a facebook account and even though one could create a fake facebook account, it’s harder to make that anonymous…need a real email to set it up.
whereas before it was flat pre-discus anonymous commenting.
see, unfortunately, the NWO already happened and we are slaves exactly as depicted in the movie “the hunger games,” which depicts the present, not the future.
people are not actually brainwashed. the left’s ideas are so stupid that no person of average intelligence could believe them, and this is shown when comments sections are anonymous and allowed as they were until about 2 years ago.
we are literally here without any power to do anything about it. more proof, as I’ve written here, is the 2008 bank bailout and the 2008 election.
and the elections since 2000 actually…leading to 9/11….leading to where we are now.
As HW Bush said in 1991, the NWO was the goal and they marched toward and achieved it from 1991-2011 or so.
we’ve been under it since at least 2012 or perhaps 2000.
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Good observation about Hunger Games, I noticed that myself.
Even the tracker jacker venom from book 1. There’s a chemical (something like an oxygen uptake inhibitor) that can cause you write over old memories with new ones, like tracker jacker venom did.
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everything about it, except actually drafting a kid from each district to battle to the death. the clueless urbanites all “expressing their individuality” by wearing only pink and purple and having ridiculous hair, the men wearing makeup and acting like faggots, the TV people, the urbanites having no real work to do and doing nothing but entertaining themselves with reality TV, the rural people being the only real people left, absolute government power and the people can do nothing about it.
kind of like how the movie Wall-E also depicts the present: everyone is a fat blog who can’t even walk without mechanical assistance and can’t think or do anything other than look at a computer screen.
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jesus fucking christ
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/19/4125544/staff-at-a-miami-dade-prison-tormented.html
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Fuckkkk. I’m beginning to think that me taking this girl to the hockey game with super good seats was a huge mistake…
We fucked drunkenly (but it’s been a while of this whole fucking her thing) and then radio silence. About one and a half weeks. Should I have texting her something super random a couple days after? Wtf.
Now I feel like she thinks I pedestalizing her b/c she’s the special one I took.
I think a huge problem is she doesn’t know what I want.
I want a relationship with her but I know it’s logically a bad idea because she’s so young and we’re in different stages of life i guess. So that causes me to be hesitant and not know if it’s what I want.
But you would think me taking her to the hockey game would hint at her that she an move forward to build the relationship? Or is she looking for me to…
Idk what to think of this all it confuses me. Maybe she’s just in it for the sex…
BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT that if I were to start hanging with one of her girlfriends or even talking to them she would try to lock me down INSTANTLY. Literally know this would happen. I just can’t find a way into her group of girls very easily
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She knows exactly what you want. You are pedestalizing her.
“BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT that if I were to start hanging with one of her girlfriends or even talking to them she would try to lock me down INSTANTLY.”
And this is exactly what you should be doing.
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I feel you dude. In the same situation of ‘really like this girl and she’d be a cool gf, but I just can’t do it.’
Idk, just hit her up when you want to bone her. In the meantime, focus on something else.
Whenever I’m all over the moon about a bish, it’s amazing what like….a day or three away from them with no contact will do for my mentality.
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Will,
I get the feeling after reading a few of your posts that you are fairly new to certain aspects of game. This post in particular. I feel like if you haven’t already, you should definitely read over Plate Theory on Rollo’s blog; The Rational Male.
Not to take anything at all away from CH teachings, but I always direct people getting newly accustomed to certain aspects of game, to the posts by Rollo labeled “Plate Theory”
And even if you have read the Plate Theory posts in the past, I recommend you maybe dig into them for a refresher. You are developing Oneitis for this girl, when your focuses should be elsewhere..
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So @christian I’m doing radio silence with this chick and ignoring her texts.
But my question is this….HOW THE FUCK do you know when it’s safe to take a girl to great seats at a hockey game or do some high energy dates or cool things.
Do you just not do this and not give a fuck?
Or maybe it’s that she will start doing this instead of you? But then that’s kinda going into her frame or something ya know?
Also, it would literally be sooooo easy to up her desire for me if I went to a party or something with a group of her girlfriends or me showing any sign of preselection. That’s what I’m missing here and idk how to do it. Any ideas….
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Yep. “Spin more plates” Rollo Tomassi says, and it’s good advice. You get a far better perspective if you have other girls going. Even if you aren’t having sex with them – just seeing them, or at worst just flirting with them. It helps you to stop thinking about that one girl. Stop seeing her as the center of your world, the only hope of having sex and company. It’s like getting rid of an earworm, you listen to other music.
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Will, the thing is, getting with a chick is not some glamorous thing. It’s a base thing, but a lot of fun and very useful. Probably it’s a mistake to provide for the girl significantly before you fuck her. Raw and ugly is the way to pass that milestone and get the oxytocin flowing.
Hm, speaking of which, poor Donald Sterling, he did so many things wrong that the other NBA owners seem to have lost respect for him and are going to disassociate themselves from him. He was taking this bitch to games of his team and not even fucking her. I hope he can learn the right lessons from this even at age 80+. I like the guy and wish him lots of pussy.
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Also in the time knowing her I didn’t even talk to her on any special day bday, vday, Christmas etc… Idk I’ve pretty much excepted that it’s obvious the answer is to spin more plates
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you know what to do.
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I don’t get the part about how it’s logically a bad idea to hang out with and impregnate a young healthy girl and make her the mother of your many children.
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Will,
Start here: http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/23/plate-theory-vi-abundance-scarcity/
Read it three times if you need to until it sinks in REAL DEEP. You’ll know when that happens. You’ll feel it and you’ll shake your head and smile and wonder why you even spent so much time worrying about this one fickle piece of ass so much to begin with.
Just do it.
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Haha @christian I get it. Wow I wish I read that earlier I. My life (still young though). That’s pretty frustrating though cause you gotta get the older girls for the more secure long haul pretty much.
BUT wtf I’ve basically treated this girl like a fuck buddy and maybe a little more. But she’s bought me food before. She’s taken me to a sporting event before too. And I did nothing for bday, vday, Christmas etc.
I feel like My move of taking her to great seats at a hockey game wasn’t a death sentence. I just know that I have to actively push (as in deny handouts) which I fuckinggggg should have been doing the whole time.
That could’ve been a death sentence but I really don’t think it is…idk tho it’s still been radio silence.
If she does get in contact tho I’ll deny a hangout or just playfully text/tease and not offer a hangout ever again
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Fundamentally, it doesn’t matter how many you-go-girl charts Huffpo puts up, or how many “likes” a fat chick eating ice cream gets on facebook, or whether her girlfriends tell her she looks better with a muffin top and fuller cheeks. The acid test is how well girls do with MEN. And there are plenty of fat dudes to match up with fat chicks, so what’s their incentive?
Girls don’t get fat because other girls say it’s ok. They get fat because they’re lazy and their diet is crap, and they can find other low smv guys to couple up with, so they’re not alone and can find some semblance of happiness.
I know CH is going to disagree that fat chicks have any options, but unless you’ve taken a stroll through a rural Walmart in the midwest where couples walking together look like a slow moving doublewides, you aint seen nothin.
[CH: Amster, you can assert till the cows come home (HEH) that fat chicks have no trouble getting laid, but studies utterly contradict your assertion. cf.:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jun/16/study-being-obese/
when you see a fatty in a relationship with a loser, you are seeing one snapshot in time. you aren’t seeing all the years she spent alone diddling her fat bean as her thinner friends partied like it was 1999.]
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Amy dear… If I wanted woman centric advice on women I would read cosmo or talk to a Gay Guy…
I come here for a MANS opinion on such matters. I get that you believe you are a “beacon of fem-reason light in a dark man cave”. But YOU ARE NOT HELPING.
What you are is a snotty girl-child who is listening to those v-gina urges to tell men they are wrong. Gee like we can’t get that from any female.
It’s been stated before but I will state categorically that Women giving advice is like reading a book with an unreliable narrator. You don’t EVER KNOW what the real story is… you just have yet another voice talking about it from their own perspective. AMY YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW IF YOU ARE FULL OF HORMONAL SHIT… Every dang thought coming from your hormone addled brain is on a sliding scale of fem centric biases. Sure you may make sense to the ladies… but to us logical types you ARE WASTING OUR TIME.
get that sweet cheeks?… m’kay buh bye then.
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I’ve found her comments, and those of other women, useful in understanding how women think. I tend to collect data from women rather than take their advice. But empathy is extremely useful, and one needs data to construct the mental simulation of another’s experience that we call empathy.
Now, as to whether this is the right forum for female opinions, I don’t mind, but it’s not my site.
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Mr. Angry Gamer–if you don’t like her opinions, why are you making all that effort to attack them? Isn’t the efficient, logical thing to do just to ignore her?
Of course, if you are hot for her and this is the best way you can express that, well, good luck.
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Amy dear… If I wanted woman centric advice on women I would read cosmo or talk to a Gay Guy…
This is something promoted by Hollywood’s TV series. It is completely false. Homosexual men don’t know what women want. Most homosexual men are weak or seriously disturbed individuals. They are people who can’t make it in the real social life, so they resort to a subculture with easy access to sex and drugs. Many of them are simply drug addicts and alcoholics who join because it is easier that way. Others were molested and raped by homosexuals as children, and become obsessed with homosexual sex in order to “master” it. Just like some who are burned by fire become obsessed with fire.
As a study showed, most men in the homosexual subculture are only there for some years. They are in fact heterosexuals who join for the easy sex, an accepting environment for drugs and alcoholism, and for insta-friends. Then they leave. Homosexuality is not something these men are, it is something they do.
What exactly would these people have to teach the normals? It is pushed only because Hollywood is full of homosexuals in high places, put there by the Tribe as allies. Many in the Tribe also dabbling in the homosexual subculture as it fits them.
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Arbiter relax man… it was a hyperbole to illustrate a point.
NO ONE here should seek ANY female centric advice about women from ANY source. But most especially from a woman.
We are here on this site commenting in a way counter to nearly every other media. We are commenting from a MALE perspective about FEMALE behavior.
I for one am tired of ANY female perspective on male-female relations. Because… drum roll…. ITS EVERYWHERE BUT HERE we are drowning in Vgina lubrication of female centric thoughts and philosophy.
So I am not going to be nice and debate with the weeping/posting Vginas. I am going to point out that if I wanted a woman’s opinion on the topic at hand I WOULD WATCH THE FCKING VIEW or a rerun of OPRAH.
Anyone who wants to defend this Weeping Gash should just turn in their man card right now. Because… ya’know she would never put out for any of you betas anyway. No matter how much you white knight her. She secretly despises you… your Vichy Man-boy ways will only encourage more pointed invasions from her fascist strap on dildo up your brown eye. (since Arbiter wanted to get graphic on homo terms).
Jeez guys don’t you want at least one place where men ARE NOT told we are wrong by some XX mouth breather???
Great Quote: If a man is alone in the forest an no woman is around… is he still wrong?
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“Hormone addled brain”…..”fem centric biases”…I can feel the hate burning through. Seriously, why the anger? Maybe Amy made the mistake of confusing her observational bias with facts, but a lot of male commentators do that as well. Confusing the remembered exception( while forgetting all the seen but unnoticed generalities) is where the phrase NAWALT came from.
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I recently read an interview in a music magazine in which the faggot Prince (the singer and guitar player) was bragging, “There is a lot of female energy in the world right now.”
I’ll say.
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Men know about as much about female-female interaction as women know about male-male. You might not think we have anything to add to a discussion about male/female relationships, but when it comes to the way women treat each other? Yes, we’ve got some perspective on that.
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Amy has a point.
I’m from California and just returned from a trip to the Midwest. Different world. Stayed at a higher end business hotel. Saw very few guys and women who didn’t have at least an extra 30 lbs on them. Did see plenty of couples.
Seems if a woman’s immediate, nearby world is fat–back to the market analysis–doesn’t much matter if a woman is. She blends.
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@Odysseus
Yeah and I noticed that a stopped clock was right two times a day too…
So what’s your point Vichy? Amy is totally right and we should go to Chateau Amy for more enlightenment from the Vgina Monologues?
I know this is hard to fathom but there are TONS (300+ million) of people in these here US of A. And while I would agree that a few might need a diet saying “I just got back from the mid west… yada yada”
Anecdotes and cherry picked selflies do not a proof make. LOGIC not female vgina intuition “should” be the tool of choice here.
CH has stated a study that refutes what the gash said. Pending another study countering that I’d say CH has called the female on the logical carpet and won.
Unless you want to turn in your nads I would say that logic must rule here. Remember a time when 2 + 2 = 4 lads??? Yeah it’s before you went girl crazy… try to remember.
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You know what’s not good for this blog, or society generally? MGTOWs like you. I know this is hard for you to understand, but a man agreeing with me or being civil to me isn’t a sexual overture or pedestalization. It doesn’t make him less of a man. I get challenged plenty around here. I also agree with most of the posts. Grow up and get out of the basement.
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A lot of unhappy guys would be a lot happier if they moved to the NYC area. Say what you want, but the women are not landwhales here. The m/f ratio is favorable for men in NYC too.
I’ve spent time in the most important midwestern city, Chicago, and it’s much worse than NYC and equipped with plenty of landwhales. Actually I hate Chicago.
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Was there supposed to be a point hiding in your comment, Angry Gamer? I’m not going to wrestle with a pig. Both wind up smelling like manure, and the pig likes it.
I am as concerned as the next guy that fat–obese, really–is the new normal for women. I happen to live in a place with plenty of skinny/athletic women, fortunately, but when I travel out it’s pretty troubling. The problem is that when all, or essentially all, of the female population is fat, there is no immediate incentive for women to get slender. And the guys letting themselves go (while less of a problem) does not make it better.
Shut down the XBox, get out of your basement and try some of the higher-end bars in San Francisco and Newport Beach. It’s a fun world out there.
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Those couples waddling through WalMart were usually average size when they paired up, Amy. Midwest rural folk who get fat (a lot of them get fat) usually start out average and decent looking, get hitched just out of high school, then gain the weight as the years pass. While there are sometims cases of fatties hooking with fatties, the people you see in Walmart (joke photos to the side) usually didn’t look like that to start with. The number of fat tubs o’ lard that I’ve encountered who are married generally have a wedding photo showing a couple I do not recognize in them – two average/thin and reasonably attractive people sporting 1990’s haircuts.
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Women never compliment other women on long locks. However if they are shorn like a gullible sheep , every other women will notice and call it “cute”. Its amazing in its consistency.
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Women do this to beta men, too.
“I want to be friends before I get into a relationship with someone.”
“Why can’t more guys be nice like you?”
“Just be yourself; you’ll find someone for you.”
Gets the beta guys to self-disqualify before they accidentally end up with one.
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They can also feed you the first line if you smash them too fast without comfort. That SNL I had awhile ago tried to pull this after we smashed at a house party. She was wary of hanging out and started saying shit like ‘Yeah, I don’t do that. I’m not like that…I just want to hang out and get to know you better.’ blah blah blah blah.
Of course the ‘why can’t more guys be nice like you.’ or ‘just be yourself’ is bullshit just for betas.
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don’t let what I said fuck with you dude
I apologize
get with that white chick make her happy so she don’t end up with a loser white dude that makes her life hell
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yea I don’t like look of black mix kids and sad to me that white chick ain’t gonna produce a white chick but yea I guess maybe just jealous too black dude hittin it lol
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I mean first chick to actually ever rape me was the one that had the black twins
so I mean that hurt and shit
he he he
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nah im not. im just trying to sort out my shit. I feel extremely lucky to have ended up where ive ended up, but the fact that I feel lucky is still evidence of me needing to work on myself and shit. i could go back to any of these chicks and do whatever.
im just in a phase where the temptation to abuse the kind of influence you get with this is too great.
for example, i stopped rolling with a certain group of people for awhile because the gf of one of the guys is clearly attracted to me and she’s cute. i don’t trust myself to be around her in a party situation. and i cant like ‘turn game off’ because i like who i am and how i act…..so you know, im kind of distancing myself a little.
itll be good to just 30 day challenge and go out and try shit
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Simon Sheppard refers to this as “Malign Encouragement.” It is defined as “encouraging an opponent to pursue an adverse policy.”
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Its been suggested to me that perhaps feminism itself has been nothing more than a form of malign encouragement. Women saying, yes, sisters, go to college, chop off your hair, marry an “equal”! Muahahahahha! The more for “me,” the merrier. #letthemeatcake
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It’s documented that the original feminists (Steinem et al) didn’t like each other. One of them said “we don’t have to like each other to work together.”
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Ha. Thanks for the info![:)](http://megalodon.jp/get_contents/287457304)
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Speaking of hamsters, gerbils and hamsters turn cannibal all the time. They are cute and fuzzy, but you have to keep them separated because they will often liquidate the other in macabre fashion. Happier than a slaughter house worker at Miller time downing his first beer in a bloody smock. If I saw a hot 15 year old girl turning another on on a spit over a fire pit, I would not bat an eyelash. I would just figured someone stepped it up a notch.
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Indeed, hamster mothers kill their children quickly. If you keep a hamster at home and it has children, she will kill most of them before they are old enough to remove from the cage.
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Women are always fighting for status relative to other women to validate their own insecure messed up selves. (That is one way in which the rationalization hamster can work in men’s favor though in a LTR; she can convince herself despite all objective standards that she has X that confers status via you, to which no other woman has access). It starts around 3rd or 4th grade; clothes, family house size or car, stuff, who gets a “boyfriend”; then who has a car, bag, shoes, yoga pants from Lululemon; later on, some go for competitive school admissions; career status; marital status; and any woman who has picked up a child outside of school or attended a PTA meeting knows who the “mom bitches” are. But when it comes to typical media, such as this HuffPost garbage, all of the “mainstream” cultural messages are directed towards creating more women who will eventually believe she needs and/or must resort to government if she wants a forever male’s love, unconditionally. The hard-core feminists need the rest of the women to be a bunch of insecure sheep because men these days are (finally!) starting to realize it isn’t a good idea to give the feminists orgasms via pushing and pulling the levers of state power.
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Fat chicks are so nasty. It’s a shame, too. This is one of the aspects of intersexual competition that is not zero-sum: almost everyone would be happier if we dropped our average way to normal levels. Naturally, it’s more important for women to be thin, but I’ll allow there are lots of fat men who have no excuse either, and that the world would be better if they would stop eating so much. For one thing, being fat lowers your testosterone, and the world needs more testosterone right now.
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I am definitely overweight, and short, and dress very simply, and don’t use any cologne and my wife says I smell terrible. But it didn’t matter at all today when I was standing waiting for an elevator next to a 9 (but probably early 30’s, so former 9 if you prefer) wearing expensive looking clothes and a women’s Rolex. I didn’t do anything special, hardly said anything, and she seemed nervous in a good way around me.
Once I decided that all unattached women are attracted to me (if they notice me, and they notice me unless they are busy with something else at least) unless I beta it up, I’ve been unable to find a contradiction to that hypothesis. CH I know you’ve described my hypothesis as untrue but something that it’s useful to believe. But I am a very scientific sort of guy and I have not disproved it. What is some evidence to the contrary?
[CH: ya know, a leading indicator that you’re trolling the assembled is the fact that you snuck this preciously plaintive wail into an off topic thread.
but on the notion that you’re sincere, the take-home lesson is simple, and scientifically founded: chicks dig overconfident men.]
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If you haven’t fucked every single one of these women, that is some evidence to the contrary lol. Inconclusive, of course, but it’s evidence.
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David,
Have you considered the possibility that she was considering the max weight limit on the elevator you were about to share? Thus the “being nervous around you”.
JS
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Another sign that he is trolling is the use of a normal and innocent-sounding name, “David”. Almost everyone will use online names that they think fit who they are in some way, or that simply sound cool, or say something they want to say.
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Plaintive? Not really, just reporting my experience today. CH, how many topics in the average thread are on topic? Half?
I’m married, I promised not to fuck other women, sorry if this doesn’t allow me to run the experiment you want. But as I’ve said, the right kind of relationship with a woman is one where she thinks you’re fuckable, as opposed to one where you’re in the non-fuckable “friendzone”. The vibe I got from her was not friendzone vibe. If circumstances had caused us to spend time together, we could have been friends on terms I would have been pleased with.
Yeah sure I might get more attention if I were ripped, and more if I were a foot taller, but all I need is to be overconfident. But if it’s working, is it really OVERconfidence?
But thinking about it, I should have negged her for her ladies’ Rolex. Commented how it looked halfway between a men’s and women’s size. I need to get used to negging more so I don’t forget to do it.
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wearing expensive looking clothes and a women’s Rolex.
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talked about clothes and not what clothes and a womans rolex ?
maybe his ideal woman I guess
but didn’t talk about the body
I say its a chick from china
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It was a professional building. She was wearing a light gray suit. White, skinny. Slightly taller than me.
That last part reduces my personal interest even as it amplifies the observation. I prefer to be taller than the girl.
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was that an ad for bikini wax or something
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Meh. I seriously doubt that these idiotic “everyone is beautiful!” platitudes stem from some subconscious desire to weaken sexual market competition. Like all the other liberal feelgood campaigns, it’s just trendy and socially sanctioned at the moment.
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I’ll just leave this here.
http://elitedaily.com/dating/women-chase-hopeless-case/600598/
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This is what I have been told by womyn: To a single woman, every other single female is the enemy. Because if that single female snags an eligible guy into matrimony, that is one less potential husband for every other female.
I tell you, it is all quite ruthless.
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[…] Girls may be sugar and spice and everything nice, but in the no holds barred, winner take all tournament to the procreative death known as the sexual market women are just as ruthless – perhaps more ruthless – than are men to their same sex… […]
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CH is correct about the abusive behavior of girls towards each other; especially the indirect nature of it.
For example, I have 2 ex’s who have known each other for years but they both pretend they can’t remember the others name, get the name wrong, or intentionally use a bastardized version of it:
” Hey, have you seen whatsherface lately?”
Men?
when we do it its an honest mistake.
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On the other hand, an ex of mine (let’s call her Amy) dated a guy who she’d known for a long time, just after he and “Cathy” split up. While they were together, Cathy was just *awful* to Amy. After Amy dumped the guy, Cathy was polite and almost friendly to Amy. (Even without the other guy, they’d never have gotten close, but they do run in similar social circles.)
So once they’re not competition to each other, women can turn on a dime.
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Family Man, it is a long and ugly story. A commenter from this blog’s formative days started his own blog, which became respected and successful, with Steve Sailer and Heartiste being regular commenters there. That blogger, one whom Whorefinder refers to as “Piggy,” eventually started doing independent investigative journalism and got seriously involved in reporting on major events of the last couple of years. I was a regular commenter there, and so was Whorefinder up until about two years ago.
What happened two years ago, is that the blogger wrote a couple of articles in a feminist/leftie online magazine. Based on the little attention I gave the subject at the time (feminism isn’t really my ox to gore), the articles he wrote there were anti-feminist. I suppose one could see it in one of two different ways. Given that his articles were anti-feminist, I saw a rightie contributing to a leftie mag as “disseminating the message.” But for Whorefinder, it was a bridge too far and he saw it as “collaborating with the enemy”. And he declared that the guy is a sellout and left in a huff. That blogger recently moved on to other things and closed his site. So that explains the “Piggy” thing that Whorefinder is crying about.
As to the neocon thing: on that blog, about a year before the feminist magazine blow-up, Whorefinder, as a regular commenter, viciously and constantly attacked a highly intelligent paleocon commenter ‘K” for being a “leftie.” Why was K a “leftie”? because he made pro-white populist arguments and criticized corporate greed.
I agreed with K on that matter, and made similar arguments. Whorefinder then started calling me “leftie” as well because I was opposing things like immigration and outsourcing. Doing so, Whorefidner revealed himself to be primarily loyal to transnational capital, the worst of Karl Rovean GOP slime. He denounced anyone who was (pro-white) populist as anti-freedom and leftist.
Over the course of my arguments with Whorefinder on that subject, I tooled him badly. It was quite amusing for me to watch him convulse and throw out lame personal insults while I deconstructed his entire worldview.
Yeah, Whorefinder makes valuable and hilarious posts on certain subjects and I’d hate to see him leave in shame. But don’t forget that while he calls blacks out on their bullshit, he is also a soulless Republican / pro-big-business-at-all-costs shill of the worst kind.
He won’t deny he is against open borders and outsourcing for profits above all (while ‘splaining himself on other subjects). He wrote a few days ago that Americans aren’t patriotic enough to die in foreign wars of no benefit to America. That, to me, is neocon filth.
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Correction: He won’t deny he is FOR open borders and outsourcing for profits above all.
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….. A bunch of coal burners….. Luv dat URL name doe.
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Is this the pinnacle of the black experience? I’m sad now. Not because these men are with white women, but that black men pay so much attention to white women.
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I saw an article today by a post-wall woman advising – nay, admonishing – young women that they should wait until at least 32 before marriage to “find out who you really are” and “experience life.”
Horrible advice. A woman’s SMV is in free fall by 32. And I bet that’s the author’s whole point.
Older women are telling lies to younger women to remove them from the marriage market and increase their own (tiny) chances of getting hitched.
It’s so clear.
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“to remove them from the marriage market and increase their own (tiny) chances of getting hitched. ”
The older women don’t think it’ll increase their chances of landing a quality guy. That ship has long sailed and deep down they know it.
The older women are simply psychotic, evil, vindictive cunts who attempt to destroy for the sake of destruction.
If they can’t have it, no one can.
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You’re both wrong. The older women who advocate stuff like this think that they can make their own experiences less terrible/meaningless if everyone is doing it.
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blechs are so undesirable it *only* takes being a king of an of an obscure country or professional aflete to make up for it
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No, trusty houseservant, africanoid and africanoid mongrels are no field-servants.
Field servants are slav(e)s of ThracoSarmatia, scandinavians, saxens/schwab/prussians, and italogreeks from Europa, and beaners.
Massa found a nice (low level) house-job for you and yers, my IQ-challenged, melanin-rich house-servant.
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Also, cullis have been imported in increasing numbers.
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Hey guys,
Long time lurker here, recently decided to dedicate some time and effort to pickup and figured some of the generous regulars like YaReally might take some interest.
Bit of background: I’m not a hard-case newbie, but have issues with being stifled due to a difficult childhood of being picked-on/beaten-up/shut-down because of my race (I’m white). The silver-lining there is that my un-stifled personality is quite attractive to women, and I’ve had a handful of genuinely epic hook-ups in special unstifled moments of situational confidence. My fully developed pick-up style would probably be a mix between RSD Julien’s and Hank Moody’s (I’m a literary type and can drop dry wit when necessary)
OK so preliminary field reports. I’ve been in Europe for a week and have gone out 4 times so far. My new policy is NO DRINKING while at clubs to maximize gain from reference experiences. Also I’m all about fucking with my comfort zone. I know deep down that I NEED to do this. My second night in a brand new foreign city I went out by myself to the most intimidating low-class club I could find(no drinking) handled a number of big jacked tattooed AMOGS got a makeout with a HB 6.5 18 year old. The whole evening I was way out of my comfort zone and actually ended up taking two cute swedish girls back to my place. They were both into me individually but I couldn’t get a threesome. So we just cuddled, made out, fondled.
I saw one of the Swedish girls (the uglier of the two) on a Day 2 and we went back to my place and made out, dry humped, touched, but no nakedness and no sex. Tons of last minute resistance. I have set the frame that I’m not a boyfriend and routinely call her a dog and a slut in a way that is at least calibrated enough that i get laughter rather than a wtf response. Thanks rsd julien for this… so fun to just call a girl a fucking dog to her face and have the two of you just know its on and get a laugh out of it when you let a little amused smirk out.
Bottom Line: That first evening of going out alone to the club with short skirted skanks and jacked mma types was WAY out of my comfort zone but I nailed it and am still coasting on those good feelings. I don’t want to give myself permission to stop pushing boundaries, and I feel that I’m especially at risk to just bask in the ability to go to a club, approach, get some makeouts and Day 3 fuck a 6. I still get serious nerves around 8.5-10 and cannot be unstifled around them.
Also, my game works WAY better on European girls than American ones, for some reason. I am worried that my impression of improving in game might be somewhat inflated on account of this.
Rambled too long.
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+1
Good story and congrats.
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Scandinavian women get sparkling eyes with Foreigners.
One tip when you finally get into a cockfight with the big vicious muscle heads there. Make sure you befriend the barstaff. A nice big tip start of the night.
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Greg Eliot has entered the building
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“Cover your eyes boys:
http://www.afieldnegro.com/photos2.html”
True homo sapiens diluting its genetics by breeding mulattoes with the genetic defective, recessive, albinism inflicted………. the horror – what a shame !!!!
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yea we white dudes need to start having lots of daughters and making mad loot getting them with the rich dudes
im flattered really make tons of money get a white bitch
and ya know family of that chick prob getting kicked back some loot
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. Many seem YKWs A union warmly, keenly, blessed by massa.
P.S. Eddie Murphy is gay, no? The pencil beside him is a stand-in for a teenager boy, isn’t it?
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Seismic shift in gender relations? A Holocaust against women would happen first complete with rape camps and robot mothers Dont say you wernt warned
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“blechs are so undesirable it *only* takes being a king of an of an obscure country or professional aflete to make up for it”
no. more like one a so called Negro can escape the grips of a poverty potential inducing net imposed and maintained by white men, and can earn a living -even close to that of he so called white man , the white woman is game.
The only thing preventing the massive defection of white women to black men
is that white men spend billions trying to keep black men poor – and succeed.
of course all that spending is bankrupting the white man……..so we’ll see how long he can keep it up.
face it: white woman have always been available to the highest bidder……of course white men know that better than anyone.
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