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[–]darkcoolster 65ポイント66ポイント  (8子コメント)

I rather Darmian be on the left than Rojo. Rojo offers nothing attacking wise and is weak defensively. Blind is good on the left but I rather see him at midfield or center back. Luke Shaw is the starter no doubt, hope he finally goes injury free

[–]quimbies_in_camo_PJs 38ポイント39ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'd rather have Ashley Young at LB than Marcos Rojo. Rojo is the only current United player I just don't see enough positives to warrant situational usage

[–]darkcoolster 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Would keep him to provide depth for our center backs, but please don't start over CBJ at LB if Shaw is somehow unavailable

[–]Rept4r7 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Didn't we already hear that Mourinho is looking to loan CBJ?

[–]darkcoolster 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought the source wasn't reliable for that news, but even if true, I would play Darmian over Rojo at LB

[–]Rept4r7 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm with your original comment. I'd put CBJ over Blind, Darmian, and Rojo at LB. I like CBJ and thought he did well last year when he got a chance. He just needs a bit more confidence and experience, which I guess is an argument to loan him out.

[–]darkcoolster 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea he has a really mean cross, and is pretty decent at defending. Definitely hope he is given a chance this season

[–]chris2684Carrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rojo has a much better cross than darmian though. I wouldn't say darmian is better than him offensively

[–]clg93 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Think Darmian will be backup here rather than RB, why else would he have played there vs Gala? I said it in another thread, surely if he was gonna play RB he'd have come on there with Young going to LB

[–]MylesVEon a cold, rainy night at Zlatan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Played there (briefly) for Italy at the euros as well.

[–]clg93 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah apparently he played there fairly often for Torino too, Mou showed with Azpilicueta that he has no qualms playing a right footed player on the left, if we sign Fabinho then I do believe this will be the case.

[–]chris2684Carrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He might have played therw to give some time to all 5 wingers

[–]BetweenTheCheeksAnderson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe mourinho doesn't see young ad a left back

[–]saulelek 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hope Rojo is sold. He's awful.

I'd keep CBJ and give him minutes as Shaw's backup - have to manage Shaw's fitness carefully so lots of potential for games, especially in the Europa League

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

With Darmian and Blind able to play LB it doesn't seem much of a gamble.

[–]Phosbum 29ポイント30ポイント  (15子コメント)

Why the fuck is everyone so mean to Rojo?

[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 61ポイント62ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never been very impressed by him, but I get the sense that since Jose made his remark about having a small squad we started looking for obvious players to be cast off. Blind, Mata, Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Fellaini, etc. all have had excellent moments for us and arguments can be made for or against keeping them. With Rojo, at best he's been solid if unspectacular, and the consensus is he isn't good enough to start at CB or LB. Since he'd be a backup and would be blocking young players people are attached to like CBJ and Tuanzebe from playing during an injury crisis (plus the general skittishness about Jose abandoning our young players) he's an obvious, uncontroversial candidate to sell. The best argument for him is "he can play multiple positions," but he plays the same spots as Daley Blind without the passing range. My guess as to the meanness is that people have realized that almost everyone agrees with the idea of selling him, so there's no immediate backlash for calling him out. If you are vocally aggressive about Mata or Rooney, you'll split opinion and risk being donvoted. With Rojo, you're pretty safe from that because no one is going to rush to defend him.

[–]contact_hiRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What an extremely thought out and accurate response.

[–]Noxu777Jose Mourinho -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

because he has never shown anything to warrant praise?

[–]Rept4r7 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

He did have a decent World Cup, prompting LVG to splash the cash for him. I think his missing of preseason last year due to his passport issues really led to a lot of people taking a negative view of Rojo, believing him to be lazy or not committed. There also were rumors of an affair during his first season at United. For myself, I don't think Rojo's as terrible as some have made out and I think it's good to have some players that can be CB or LB (apparently Jose doesn't agree with that). His attitude in training kind of helps lift everybody's spirits as well. Having said all of that, I'd be fine with him leaving, especially if Jones can stay fit and find some form.

[–]LucaRiolu493Blind 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Blind can play those positions too. And if the choice is between keeping one of those, which it probably should be so our squad doesn't get too big, I'd pick Blind and I think Jose would too.

They've both been here two years, and Blind has been injured a lot less, shown versatility and ability to adapt in either position (CB or LB), a superior ability to read the game and pass. He's provided assists and goals. I only remember Rojo assisting Herrera vs Everton (3-0, last season) and scoring once against Cambridge (I think). So unless you think Rojo has shown more quality than Blind, I don't think he deserves a place in the squad

[–]Rept4r7 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Again, I'm fine with selling Rojo. We don't really need him, he would just be extra cover in case of a injury crisis. I don't see why we can't just keep both of them though and have a 24 or 25 man squad (assuming some of the kids get loans).

[–]AllGoneMHMatteo Darmian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

because the kids should not be loaned. why are some folks ok with this? it's chelsea all over again, loaning kids and never using them

[–]Rept4r7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with that and I've said in other threads that I would like to keep CBJ and TFM. I also argued all of last year that we should give Pereira a chance. It looks like Tuanzebe is staying, but otherwise the rumors are that Mourinho is going to loan a bunch of them out. My comment is just based on what I think is going to happen based on the information out there, it isn't how I would personally do things.

[–]bermudi86 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What? Any Argentinian will tell you how much he is hated but he is first team because there isn't anyone else to play LB for them

[–]Rept4r7 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

How does that take away from LVG buying him based on his world cup performance?

[–]bermudi86 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No it does not. I'm just disagreeing with your general assessment, he is a worse player than people give him credit for. And about his attitude, who is criticizing that? he runs like a headless chicken all game long.

[–]Rept4r7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just meant that his attitude in training could be used as justification to keep him around. He is always smiling and encouraging everyone else. When something good happens, he's the first one saying something or clapping. He also works hard. I think he is a really positive addition to United's training sessions.

[–]beans718 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember he had a couple decent games at LB last season.. the first everton game comes to mind. But one game out of two seasons is nothing to brag about. Jones should also be on the chopping block IMO

[–]bermudi86 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because ha has consistently proven to be the worst player on the pitch every single game he has played for the past year. League and international.

[–]parton9020 times, 20 times, Man United 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would prefer for us to hang onto CBJ, he'd probably be my first choice back up and the game time this would give him would aid his development. Then again if he could a loan somewhere in the PL where he'd be playing week in week out I'd be comfortable with Blind as back-up. Rojo is a bit meh for me still, really don't think he's good enough for us and imo he's better at CB than LB.

[–]Lax4Evr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know the gametime would help his development, but are you sure you'd be confident with CBJ as our full time 2nd string? If Shaw picks up an untimely nick this season I wouldn't want CBJ to be starting for us against the likes of City and Chelsea with their seasoned wingers.

[–]Lord_SchelbJose F. Busby 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

If the rumours are indeed true, Im thinking:

RB: Fabinho / Valencia / TFM

LB: Shaw / Darmian / Bojack

Edit: According to Castles, Blind and Rojo are up for sale.

[–]Allard1994Good one Jose, good one. 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

Blind is not for sale

[–]Lord_SchelbJose F. Busby 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im not the one who decides, I gave you the source, wich is reliable when it comes to jose.

[–]drivinganindievanScholesy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Blind is most definitely not in the first plans for Jose though.

[–]Dmcnich15Van Nistelrooy 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

First team probably not but it's so valuable to have someone that good that can fill in if someone gets hurt in a variety of positions

[–]drivinganindievanScholesy 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I like Blind, don't get me wrong, and I hope he can be good for us, but he shouldn't be a centre-back this season. I prefer him in midfield.

[–]Rept4r7 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also like him in midfield. He could work well in a Blind - Pogba - Schneiderlin or Carrick midfield trio.

[–]doctorpwnRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me too. Not like we have a ton of depth at DM anyway

[–]Saf94 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

A lot of people comment about our LB situation being fine. It isn't.

We really need to learn from last season that we're one injury away from being crippled at LB. Yes we have quantity at LB but we certainly don't have quality. After Shaw we are very limited. Rojo is awful, CBJ is very young and while Blind is a good player I just don't think he has the pace or dynamism to play LB.

I wish we'd sign a good back up LB, people often say if Shaw hadn't got injured we would've got 4th place. How can we then go into the new season with that kind of risk? Yes Shaw's injury was a freak but it's not like he's had a flawless injury record before that, last season was meant to be the season he got over his injury record and became a consistent first team regular.

I just feel nervous not having a proper backup LB to rotate with Shaw, it's a lot of games he's going to need to play and he's still so young.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see Darmian being back up to Shaw for the season with Valencia starting on the right, hence the Fabinho rumors. Or Fabinho starting on the right with Valencia as his backup. Other than that piece of wild speculation, I agree, we are desperately missing a quality LB backup.

[–]LucaRiolu493Blind 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also remember that Rojo, Jones, Young and Darmian were all injured at the same time as Shaw. That meant Blind had to play CB and was unavailable for LB, so we had no other options. If only Shaw was injured, we had plenty of players who could do a job there. I think Darmian would have been a reliable left-back. He showed that he was solid until that nasty fall vs Sunderland(?)

[–]Saf94 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rojo, Young and Darmian were all fit at the end of the season and at the beginning. It still didn't solve our lb issue, we were definitely lacking hugely when Shaw was out.

[–]Nhialor 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

We didn't sign Luke shaw in 2011, we signed him in 2014.

[–]tocitusMemphis[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup, this is what happens when I rush

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Luke was still eating Nesquik and supping on Calippos in 2011.

[–]kaizoku7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Historically Shaw plays the full season at Southampton. hope he stays fit and healthy.

If that's the case, Darmian, Blind, Young, TFM, CBJ are more than enough numbers and quality to fill in when needed.

If Shaw missed large chunks of the season again then we'd get by. I don't think it's our weakness at all.

[–]RichieMcladSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This was probably the most troublesome position injury-wise last season. At times it seemed like it was cursed (Shaw, Rojo, CBJ, Young and Darmian were all injured at one point IIRC).

I hope Shaw can get back to his pre-injury form, otherwise I don't think Rojo and CBJ are good enough (atleast for now) to be Manchester United players.

[–]TheTrackPadUser#HAS POGBA SIGNED YET 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep CBJ, sell Rojo.

[–]W0rsleyRafael 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw is obviously far ahead of anyone else in the team at LB, I really like the look of CBJ but think he should go on loan, he is good going forward and has the best cross I've seen on a United player since Beckham but could do with improving defensively, Rojo just can't defend 1v1 and for whatever reason his positioning went to shit last season.

Blind and Darmian are good enough cover for Shaw for this season, I also think the fact they can both play multiple positions is for the best, whoever is backup to Shaw has to realise they will barely ever play LB unless he gets injured.

[–]Ashys_Senegalese Superman Evra 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Luke Shaw joined in 2014! :)

[–]tocitusMemphis[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed! Take note kids, this is an example of what happens when you rush even the simplest of tasks.

[–]Z1964Memphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I feel like Rojo will be wasted this season.

[–]Alehud42 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

By "wasted" do you mean "sold"? Because then I agree.

[–]Saf94 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt many people will be shedding a tear

[–]darkcoolster 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seems like he's mostly played center for pre-season

[–]craigybachaManchester United 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

...and been poor.

[–]darkcoolster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not denying that, but we need depth in that position, so unless there's a replacement, I think it's a bad idea to sell him for now

[–]seihandaShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw gonna be the best LB in the world if he can return to his pra-injury era.

No need to buy new LB

[–]Melanjoly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw is 1st choice, BJ should be given the chance as backup. Blind is too slow and would be a liability at fullback and Rojo looks to be a truly awful footballer I wouldn't want anywhere near the 11 at any cost.

[–]fadednegative 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Blind is better at LB than Darmian. Darmian is certifiably terrible at LB IMO. CBJ can give Shaw rest against lesser sides or in cup competitions as well. I think we're fine.

[–]wasabicoatedSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Darmian is a RB. He does not need to be included in this conversation.

[–]fadednegative 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't the one who introduced him to it

[–]azzanice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian , in form, is a good lb.

[–]G_Morgan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think stats like this are problematic as they don't cover context. Shaw was at LB during a transition period last year when we were trying to use the full backs high up the field. After he got injured our entire game plan became more conservative.

[–]EddieMcDowallBuchan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As far as I'm concerned the LB slot is filled; Shaw, end of.

Back up CBJ, back up, back up Darmian.

[–]Arth_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw is nailed on. It's nice to have him back. Hopefully he's gonna find his old form that he had before injury. I don't like Blind at left-back. I think out of CB, DM and LB that's his least competent position. He's too slow, doesn't make overlapping runs in correct times and takes too long to cross the ball. Rojo also isn't the best there. Not good enough going forward and inaccurate crossing. I think Borthwick-Jackson is our best choice for Shaw's back-up. Still needs a lot of work, but I really love these dangerous balls that he puts into the box. I think we could utilize them better, now that we have Zlatan. Too bad Mourinho doesn't seem to rate him that highly.

Our other options are Darmian, Young and Reserves player Joe Riley. All of them are right-footed though, so that's a big drawback.

[–]craigybachaManchester United 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our left back position is well covered. If Luke Shaw stays injury free he should be starting every game. He adds so much pace and attacking threat to the left flank, whilst also being solid at the back.
Rojo/Blind are capable rotation/backup options.

[–]ungaayaAnder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

1st Choice: Luke Shaw 2nd Choice: Darmian 3rd Choice: Ashley Young

Blind should be played as a CB or CDM only and Rojo should move on to another club. CBJ loaned to a PL club if possible. We need to sign one more CB and an RB but LB is good.

[–]kearnsy44 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw nailed on starter. Darmian and CBJ battle it out as back up. I'd sell young. Don't like him at all as full back and we are too stacked on the wings for him to play. Sell now while we can make money on him. I know this won't happen but he definitely shouldn't be an option at full back unless we get loads of injuries

[–]HesseLingladIt doesn't Mata! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Joe Riley!

[–]Thekantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. Luke Shaw
  2. Luke Shaw
  3. Luke Shaw

Pls stay alive this season Luke :/

[–]uniy64Mata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tojo can't play LB in EPL. I know that's his role in national team. But he benefits from the dominant football Argentina plays. He isn't good enough on both end to cover that position.

[–]CoolsacsHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd love to see Luke Shaw take LB position to a whole new level. But I am a bit skeptic about it too. (Because what we wish won't come true, let's be honest)

CBJ is definitely our future. He should be well groomed and developed. That being said he shouldn't thrown at every possible games.

I feel that there is a lot more hate towards Rojo that he actually deserves. He had his share of bad experience last season like anyone else. But he was definitely good too. I remember he had lots of good forward passes and good crosses last season, too bad they weren't converted. I'd love to see him improve this season.

Blind is just majestic in everything he does. Though he isn't an LB, he's a good great option.

[–]reddevlonV.Nistelrooy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The stats do lie, don't they..Rojo is supposedly our best Left Back..and here we all are speculating he would be the 1st one to be sold this season..