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[Opinion Post] Number 10 (self.reddevils)

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I'm going to be submitting a post a day for each position on the team which should create some discussion until the season begins. These posts are to compare the current options and general discussions surrounding each position. Yesterday was left wing which was posted by the lovely /u/feezbull

All stats for each player are compiled specifically for each position, not their stats as a whole

Player Age Joined Contract Expiry Appearances Goals Assists Points Per Game Goals Per Game Assists Per Game
Memphis Depay 22 2015 2019 (+1) 3 0 0 2.33 0 0
Jesse Lingard 23 YA 2018 4 0 0 2.23 0 0
Adnan Januzaj 21 2011 2018 8 1 1 2.00 0.13 0.13
Ander Herrera 26 2014 2018 18 3 3 1.89 0.17 0.17
Juan Mata 28 2014 2018 45 13 10 1.76 0.29 0.22
Wayne Rooney 30 2004 2019 27 7 6 2.04 0.26 0.22
Henrikh Mkhitaryan 27 2016 2020 (+1) 0 0 0 0 0 0
Andreas Pereira 20 2012 2018 (+1) 3 0 0 2.25 0 0

Possible Talking Points

  • Who is your first choice?

  • Are you happy with the rotation/back-up options available?

  • Any promising youngsters you foresee playing a role for us in the future on that wing?

Tomorrow I'll post the last in the series; striker.

Previous Posts:

Goalkeeper

Right-Back

Left-Back

Centre-Back

Central Midfield

Right Wing

Left Wing

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[–]Marcosbryant10 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mata or miki should be first choice but we know it's Rooney, so that ends that... Pereira needs to go on loan and junazaj has to either leave permanently or loan, lingard is a useful member of the squad

[–]WHiTeCHIICK 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd like to see Mata play in his preferred position consistently

[–]Marcosbryant10 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me too but we know he most likely will be on the bench, which is frustrating to see

[–]deeejhibbert 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

agree completely, imagine zlatan tony mata mhiki
as a front line, any speed issues are no matter with how fast our wingers are, plus if there is any need for help in the middle those guys can drift inside. there's so much creativity and speed in that line up. i can see memphis convert into a utility forward, cuz he's shown capability to play anywhere behind the striker (limited on the right), would be nice to see if he could develop even more at the all three so he can back up our first XI, but if not as an LW or no. 10 preferably. also don't really see lingard as a no. 10 has a tendency to drift there awkwardly when starting on the right and he doesn't seem to function well there when he starts in the middle

[–]prem_201 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mata should be first choice, we don't have a good enough option for RM else I'd prefer Mkhitaryan.

[–]Bacon_BoobiesSmoked Rashers 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney needs to play really well to lock that position down, I just don't see it happening in all honesty.

Don't think Mou will have the same loyalty towards him as LVG did if he's not performing there, think we could end up seeing Herrera, Mata or Mhki taking the spot from Roo if he doesn't perform well

Would like to see Pereira get a shot there at some point as well, maybe in the cup games or off the bench.

[–]yiyiyiyiPogba 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Obviously we're going to start the season with a 4231 and will play with a #10 but there's a really good case for playing a 433 instead.

Ibrahimovic likes to drop deep and link play. PSG didn't play with a #10. I just don't see Zlatan and Rooney being a good partnership. They both want to play in the same space, it won't work out.

Pogba didn't play in a midfield with a #10. He had freedom to do what he liked at Juventus instead.

If we move away from from a system with a #10 then we can get more out of the two biggest players and it wouldn't harm anyone apart from Rooney and Mata.

But it looks like we will go with a #10 and it will be Rooney. I'd expect him to be better than last season but he's still not going to be close to world class.

[–]King-EricCantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think 4-3-3 suits us better in the long run as well (especially for Pogba ) but I'm not going to get my hopes up. Mourinho has been using this formation for the majority of the last six years or so - hard to see him moving away from it.

[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, we have no depth for the left and right CM spots and we're stacked at 10

[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish we would wouldn't play with a no.10. Was kind of hoping we would transition to a 4-3-3 with the (hopeful) signing of Pogba. Feel like that would be better suited for his style of play.

Looks like this season though we will be going with a 4-2-3-1 so I would say Mata and Herrera would be better suited for the no. 10 because I think their technical ability dribbling and close quarter passing is better.

[–]zyklan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not satisfied with Rooney being our main man there. I think he lacks creativity and pace, also his decision making has seen better days. I don't think we should buy anyone in that position because there is no one who is available who is a significant upgrade on Rooney, James maybe. I think De Bruyne would be the perfect fit but that seems highly unlikely.

[–]EZeeeH 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Memphis at the beginning of last season played at no.10 and was good at switching with wingers and creating chances for others he deserve a chance there, Martial Memphis Micki will work

[–]ireallyamsomethingRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure why most people here prefer Mata over Rooney at no. 10 despite his multiple poor performances there the previous season when he got constantly bullied off the ball, leaving us vulnerable to counter attacks. Mata's passing/vision is quite good but his strength or lack of it is a major disadvantage. If one prefers Mkhitaryan, then that's another matter.

Rooney's probably going start the season there...I also see him as playing a kind of 9 & 1/2 role as Jose has mentioned before, where he sometimes occupies the striker's position as Zlatan drops deep or along with him.

[–]WHiTeCHIICK 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not rooney hes so average at 10

[–]Launch_a_poo 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rooney gets judged too harshly on here. Winning the league isn't always about having world class players in all XI positions. Rooney is hard working, to the point where he even runs back to make goalline clearences, a great leader and always contributes towards 20 goals a season minimum

His record speaks for itself

EDIT: I thought the bizarre decision to remove the downvote button was to promote discussion, obviously not. I'm no longer negative

[–]Shaggydog__One Darren Fletcher. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People saying Herrera is a better 10. than Rooney are talking out if their ass. It's like they didn't watch him at all when he played there. And Mata was shit there too.

Rooney needs to be replaced at #10, but not by Mata or fucking Ander Herrera.

[–]BloodyMess111 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mata or Miki, but honestly, what's the fucking point in talking about it, we all know the potato that's going to be occupying that spot. How longs he got left on that contract? 2 more years? sigh

[–]tocitusMemphis[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well apparently his contract is til 30.06.2019, which is another 3 years no?

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that's unfortunate.

I thought he signed a 5 year extention when Moyes took over but obviously it was a 5 1/2 year extension.

[–]JuicyPorkDumplingsRooneyIsLoveRooneyIsLife 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't have anyone as reliable as Rooney, but this should definitely be the year we work on getting another strong and creative player for the future. Whether its from the academy or the market. I really like Ander but i need to see him more as a number 10, would also love to see Pereira succeed with us but i still think he's a couple of years from being a starter.

[–]KingLechi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Herrera didn't do a bad job there when given the chance last season, maybe he gets another go. Also, what about Memphis?

[–]Shaggydog__One Darren Fletcher. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera was shit at 10. last season.

[–]GGMU1992Jose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm curious to see what Mourinho can make of Rooney at the 20. Mostly because we know that is who he is going to play and I'm trying to be positive.

[–]wh11Memphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mata or Pogba

[–]DANNYWELBECK12345 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would've loved Januzaj to get a shot at 10 this season