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Could it be our fault? (self.MGTOW)

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I know I'm going to get a lot of shit for this, and no I'm not some undercover feminist or SJW. I was just thinking maybe part of the problem is men? It does make sense that as the quality of women goes down the quality of men would go down as well. Now obviously with feminism and divorce statistics it's easy to see where women are at fault, but with men I think it's a bit more covert. There's been a rise in bronies, hipsters, addicted gamers etc. This must have some affect on why men are dropping out of society, it couldn't be all women's fault. Perhaps the rise in divorce is partly due to shittier men and women's higher standards just look raised because there are more lower quality men out there. Again I'm not a secret feminist I am MGTOW I just like to think in opposition to what I believe. In my opinion, it mostly has to do with women but men have some small part to play. I'd say 80% women's fault 20% men's fault. What do you guys think? All opinions are welcome.

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[–]BagOfBrokenBits 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whilst there are always going to be assholes I would imagine that most of the men here undertake a good amount of self-examination and will decide for themselves how to make any adjustments they see fit.

As for others, some will have been raised in less than optimum circumstances. For example the sons of single mothers or unstable households. These people had a bad start and have probably seen some shit and made the best of themselves as they are able.

Others have been beaten, bruised and hurt by life events, they have been brainwashed, overworked, lied to, cheated on, and robbed. All these guys are doing is trying to cope with difficult circumstances as best they are able. Some of their coping mechanisms may turn out not to be the best choices. They may be in a period of recovery and recuperation that involves withdrawal. From the outside this may look like "low quality" to me it looks like a brother who needs a hand and not judgement by me. For me the onus is to improve myself and help a guy when I can.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you define "shitty" men? By having hobbies or clothing styles you (or women) don't approve of? The vast majority of them are smart and contribute to the economy. If anything, their peculiar behavior, hobbies or styles is a result of gynocentric society.

But you are right in the sense that men are partly at fault too. They constantly fulfill women's ridiculous demands and do not hold them accountable for their own shortcomings.