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[–][deleted] [score hidden] - stickied comment (95 children)
Dear everyone, we're not unstickying this.

I do not think the title is inaccurate. There's a difference between supporting them and being a far left SJW fuckwit. He said in the interview that this is a question he knew he was gonna get and anyone saying otherwise is rationalizing like crazy. No he's not a radical feminist cuck. Yes he holds a view that you don't.

Trump does not let PC shit influence his decision making. He does not make decisions so they can be PC. He does not make his decisions specifically to be non-PC. You can disagree with him on this issue but acknowledge it. The mods aren't spinning anything, we're not trying to out-left the left. We support a right wing candidate who holds one non-right wing view.

There is nothing wrong with promoting Trump's views on a Trump sub. We're not gonna disallow tranny jokes or make asinine laws about transphobia but we are going to support Trump even if he holds a different view on one position from many of our subscribers. He has a long history of supporting trans people, even on Miss Universe. Sorry but these are facts. This is a worthy sticky and a quality news article, regardless of anyone's views on trannies.
[–]TheRealPinoccio 25 points26 points27 points  (18 children)
I'm surprised about this comment since I would have suggested that most people ("99%") would support his statements in the video. Would have thought that it's a non-issue to the people here, but guess not.
[–]Fire-KeeperIL 20 points21 points22 points  (16 children)
Look at the other top comments though, it is a non-issue to most people here- while many of us might feel that being trans is a mental illness that shouldnt be encouraged and celebrated, we dont really give a shit about regulating toilets and although people incite fear about the weirdos who will do weird shit in toilets, as Trump said, theres been very little complaints so far. Much much bigger issues at hand tbh and Trump will be reforming the mental health system in the U.S. as he has said, so that will give proper support to people experiencing trans disease.
[–]TRUUUUUUUUUMPNC 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
To be clear: trump said that there were "very little complaints" back before there were ANY laws on the books about bathrooms and trannies. He's not just against the NC state Bill, but also against the City of Charlotte law, which was extremely "pro-LGBT".
[–]pumpyourstillskinWA -4 points-3 points-2 points  (14 children)
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people incite fear about the weirdos who will do weird shit in toilets
Yes. Male pedophiles will do weird things. Like pretend to be trans to watch little girls undress with impunity.
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theres been very little complaints so far
That's because laws legalizing male access to little girls bathrooms have existed for like less that two months.
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    [–]pumpyourstillskinWA -3 points-2 points-1 points  (5 children)
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    Wait that's all that was stopping someone from entering the women's room to commit a crime?
    Up until two months ago, a male using the women's rest room was a crime.
    [–][deleted]  (4 children)
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      [–]pumpyourstillskinWA -5 points-4 points-3 points  (3 children)
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      Sexual assault and sexual harassment are still illegal, so it changes nothing.
      Yes it does because now voyeurism and stalking is legal.
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      But can you explain the ultra-conservative crowd's fascination with having genital police on every corner and in every bedroom? Because that's what you're advocating for right now.
      It's hard to believe social justice warriors like you have such twisted fucking minds that you think laws against men watching little girls undress is "ultra-conservative fascination with genital police on every corner."
      You're worse than the Swedes who want every Muslim rapist to move in next door.
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        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
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        Oh please, please show me where this was legalized?
        Washington State, where men are allowed to use the girls' locker room if they "identify" as a woman.
        “
        Are you saying The Donald is a SJW now?
        No, I just think he hasn't thought it through. Everyone else here who is demanding men use the girls' locker room is though. Everyone seems to complain that these men will have their feelings and their pronouns hurt if they have to use the bathroom according to their genetics and not whatever species or gender they "identify" as.
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        I don't support laws that cause unnecessary economic burden on a State
        Oh, so you support companies boycotting states because those states don't want men to watch little girls undress. You say it's a non-issue, tell it to all the girls who now are expected to have men watch them undress or else social justice warriors like you will call them bigots.
        [–]TundraaaIL 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        What about female pedophiles? You keep going on and on about male pedos.
        [–]DonationBox 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        They don't exist. Just ask Lena Dunham. She'll tell you that raping her underage sister is perfectly fine.
        /s if you can't tell.
        [–]TundraaaIL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Completely irked me the way he kept implying there's no female pedophiles. Dude's got a problem with men.
        [–]HSspeducatorIL 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
        You do realize you've probably shared plenty a restroom with a tranny. You just didn't know. Before these stupid laws, you wouldn't have even really thought about.
        That is until the SJW started acting a fool. Now they've gone and fucked everything up.
        I do agree with Trump. These laws are a waste of time. We have way bigger issues.
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
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        Before these stupid laws, you wouldn't have even really thought about.
        Before these stupid laws, if a man was in the girls' locker room, the establishment and the cops could have him removed.Like:
        Now you can't have them removed. And if you try, you'll be sued for a 'civil rights' violation.
        [–]HSspeducatorIL 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        And I'm saying they should have left it all alone alone. Pervs could have been arrested. Trannies could piss and shit in peace. The changing room thing I'm a little foggy on, but even I change in a stall. I'm overweight. I figure in doing a public service. Lol. The only trans I've run across who throw a tantrum about the changing room are the special snow flakes. I've met a few happy enough to use stalls within their chosen changing room. At that point, who cares? They aren't in there to look at you. People need to get over themselves.
        [–]DonationBox 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Just fucking divide the rooms based on dicks and vaginas. You have a dick use this room, you have have vagina use that room. Who cares if you surgeried it or was born with it?
        In fact, who the fuck cares in the first place?
        [–]Frederic_BastiatCA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Shit like this is WHY I like trump over Cruz. If I wanted a super hardcore religious nutter I would vote Cruz. I like that trump is more centrist.
        [–]PoorLilMarcoNH 45 points46 points47 points  (6 children)
        People need to remember that its okay to disagree with your preferred candidate on a couple of issues. I'm not fond of Trump on climate change but I know that he's by far the best candidate running and he'll be the only one to MAGA.
        [–]jonesrr 21 points22 points23 points  (4 children)
        I personally don't disagree with Trump on this issue, but do disagree with him on climate change. Just like I disagreed with Rand Paul on vaccines.
        I think Trump saying this is a grade A trap for Ted Cruz to fall in, likely orchestrated by Manafort prior to his Town Hall.
        Cruz fell right into it.
        [–]PoorLilMarcoNH -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
        To be honest I'm a little worried that this will dent Trump's 'anti-PC' support. But it'll probably blow over like the whole abortion facade.
        [–]jonesrr 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
        IMO what Trump said here was not PC at all. Hillary would have said "the law was appalling and puts the US back into the dark ages!". Trump said "this is a stupid law because the status quo was fine, and all this does is harm NC economically".
        I believe Trump saying this had all the "touches" of Manafort's influence on his campaign. Trump can win WA/OR/CA with huge landslides with things like this. He's forcing Cruz to do what Cruz does best, and that's go bat shit crazy to the far right.
        [–]PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMESGA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Trump saying "I don't care where you pop a piss tbh. I haven't seen any proof of it ever being a problem" isn't PC.
        Bashing and smearing Trump because he doesn't think this whole bathroom thing isn't being PC though. Trump said what he thinks.
        As I've said before. The only way you'll EVER find a candidate you support 100%, is if you run for POTUS yourself.
        If you find yourself believing every single thing a candidate says, then you might want to check and see if you really do agree 100% or if you're becoming a "Yes man"
         
        Besides, this shit shouldn't even be getting mentioned in the primaries. We have terrorists blowing up innocent people, water crisises, corporations shipping our livelihoods overseas, a trade deal being pushed by Obama and every corporation under the sun, etc.
        Yet, we sit here and argue about where people should piss.
        [–]Frederic_BastiatCA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Him saying this is literally not PC though the politically correct thing for a Republican to say is the opposite of what Trump said. Instead trump said what he felt and didn't censor it. This is a good thing.
        [–]SmallBusiness4TRUMPNJ 38 points39 points40 points  (6 children)
        I think he's more pro personal freedom than anything else, that's what I get from this
        [–]DrobUWPWI 15 points16 points17 points  (5 children)
        Same with abortion and gay marriage essentially. Individual rights, then states rights, then federal rights. in that order.
        [–]HexezWorkCA 23 points24 points25 points  (3 children)
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        If you aren't hurting anyone else I don't give a shit.
        Conservatives wanting to control people's bedrooms (in this case a bathroom stall) is what got us people like Cruz trying to regulate dildos.
        [–]PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMESGA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        B...but Cruz is a small government conservative!! /s
        [–]I_Should_Be_Cleaning 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        That's pretty much how I live my life. Unless you're hurting someone, causing problems for me, or being an asshole idgaf what you do. Do what makes you happy. Don't hurt others and be a decent human being.
        [–]LedditorCucks 14 points15 points16 points  (1 child)
        As a disagreer with this policy, I completely agree with your comment.

        BASED MODS

        [–]jackratko 26 points27 points28 points  (5 children)
        Why do people give a fuck about what people do to their own bodies? I thought we were social libertarians. The Don sure as fuck is.
        Let people live their own fucking lives. Quit bitching about shit that doesn't affect you.
        [–]ForTheTextMN -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
        Some people disagree with Trump on this. Others don't. But all of us support Trump, so don't try to incite a debate about this, please. Thank you.
        [–]jackratko 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
        Honestly, though, why does it matter?
        [–]ForTheTextMN 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        I could tell you why it does to me, and then you will reply why it doesn't to you, but we are not going to do that.
        [–]jackratko 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        I know that's how conversations go on the Internet, and in any other context I would say, "you're absolutely right, I respect your decision", because internet arguments are pointless, but if I promise not to respond, can you tell me?
        This is genuine curiosity. I'm not interested in getting in a debate with a fellow centipede anyways.
        [–]ForTheTextMN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        That's fair. This and this resonate with me.
        In regards to transgender bathroom law specifically, I believe the best-case scenario was what we had: a bathroom for men and a bathroom for women. If you presented yourself as a woman even though you were not, most people would not know if you used the women's room. That is fine.
        But now that we have laws forcing businesses to allow anyone in any bathroom in some places and laws forcing people to use the bathroom that corresponds to their biological sex elsewhere, we just can't have that neutral normalcy anymore. I think the law should stay out of it; individual businesses should be allowed to have gender-based bathrooms or gender-neutral bathrooms as they see fit.
        [–]ServantOfKekTX 42 points43 points44 points  (13 children)
        It should be clarified that Trump is a moderate with nationalist views, not right-wing. A lot of moderates are turned off by "Right Wing"/"Left Wing" - Trump attracts the vast majority of Americans (who have actually studied him and not surrendered to media hype) because he's a Pro-America Moderate. The people driving against him are corporate-globalist cucks, corrupt political good ol' boys, and racist regressive leftists. That's why he's fucking awesome.
        [–]scy1192WI 8 points9 points10 points  (2 children)
        I like the term "radical centrist"
        [–]z64danTX 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Woah... radical
        *picks up surfboard*
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (9 children)
        “
        It should be clarified that Trump is a moderate with nationalist views, not right-wing.
        "I'm a conservative." -- Donald Trump
        [–]ServantOfKekTX 8 points9 points10 points  (6 children)
        Fiscally conservative, socially moderate. Conservative =/= Right Wing. Where did you get that idea? He's an old-school, small government conservative when his views are taken into consideration, which is much more moderate than the Republican neocons dominating Congress who also say "I'm a conservative".
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA -5 points-4 points-3 points  (4 children)
        Supporting the "right" of male pedophiles to fake "identify" as a woman and use the little girls' bathroom is not "socially moderate." It's "socially ridiculous."
        If Trump supports shit like this, he should stop calling himself a conservative, stop asking conservatives to support him, and just openly call himself a Social Justice Warrior.
        [–]apiratewithaddMO 8 points9 points10 points  (3 children)
        If pedos are doing this show us some evidence. You just sound scared
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
        They aren't doing this, because up until now it's been illegal. Now Trump is saying it should be legal.
        “
        You just sound scared
        SJWs in Sweden said the same thing to men who don't like Muslim rapists.
        [–]troissandwich 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
        An adult male could already rape a young boy in the men's room, how is this any different?
        [–]Akilroth234CA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        Eh, I think we need to look into the matter more than that. I don't like the refugees pouring into Europe because they rape disproportionately and are overrepresented in the criminal statistics. Maybe if trans people are overrepresented in the sex offenders registry, then yeah, I'd agree.
        Do you have that stat? I can't just look at a couple of crimes and make a generalization. Have to have the right data first.
        [–]ajbeniusPA 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
        There's no one-size-fit-all standard for what a conservative is. If you go by the most simple definition- small government, then in this aspect, Trump technically is a conservative.
        However, ideology is much more complicated than that. There is social conservatism- which calls for YUGE government and compassion for illegals too. There's neoconservatism- which also calls for YUGE government, token support for social conservative issues, etc. Then there are liberty conservatives, who want the government off social issues.
        So just because Trump doesn't exactly follow the social conservative stance on this particular issue, doesn't exactly change things. There are many ways in which one can be a "conservative".
        [–]Plague_gU_COAL 7 points8 points9 points  (5 children)
        These views are actually non-PC, coming from a candidate trying to appeal to the right wing. For that, it shows that Trump is real. Not a panderer for votes.
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (4 children)
        Not PC? You can't be serious. Yes, defending trannies, crossdressers, and straight male pedophiles who want a "human right" to use the little girls' bathroom, and defending that right because otherwise their feelings will be hurt and their preferred pronouns aren't respected, is PC.
        I can't imagine a more PC position than this. This is the ultimate politically correct position.
        [–]molefsky 7 points8 points9 points  (3 children)
        Go cry yourself to sleep. He's literally arguing for /less/ government interference. Sorry but your god-emperor just got a bit more godly.
        Based TRUMP® 2016
        [–]pumpyourstillskinWA 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        Laws saying you can sue establishments that don't allow men to use the girls' locker room is more government.
        [–]Plague_gU_COAL 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        Who's going to regulate any of it? The government. Besides, Hillarys worst nightmare is a Fiscally Conservative, Socially moderate candidate.
        [–]jonesrr 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Well 70% of the entire US is socially liberal but fiscally conservative.
        [–]Fire-KeeperIL 17 points18 points19 points  (0 children)

        BASED ALT RIGHT MOVEMENT

        [–]NPerez99CA 3 points4 points5 points  (4 children)
        How do you not think the title is inaccurate when he's literally saying "leave it the way it is", ie - do not make special laws for trans rights? I'm not quite following....
        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points  (2 children)
        Because the law that he's saying he wouldn't make is one that bans trannies from bathrooms. That's clearly supporting them. It's just not a radical position.
        [–]V01DB34STCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You have to ask: do trans people want to be considered "trans", or do they want to be considered as the gender that they are transitioned to?
        There is no reason to create special "trans" bathrooms unless trans people want to be considered "trans" instead of their transitioned gender.
        I only personally know women who have transitioned to men, but in my personal experience they don't want to be considered "trans", they want to be considered men, and so they use the men's bathroom. This is what Trump is saying, they use whatever bathroom they feel appropriate.
        [–]brianbrennanNJ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        All hail the god emperor
        [–]oilsandspromisedlandCAN 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Yeah I disagree with this stance but it's so trivial to me it doesn't affect my opinion of Trump in the least.
        [–]scy1192WI 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        it got unstickied
        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Yeah, but that's cause we unsticky everything once it hits /r/all. Stickying comes with penalties in terms of how far it can rise
        [–]scy1192WI 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        oh, is it automatic?
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        WHERE THE HELL IS KEVIN

        [–]shocky27MAGA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Thank you. I was proud Trump said what he said today.
        [–]lsp2005 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Trump is pro business, so he said to create new bathrooms would be cost prohibitive for businesses and governments. He does not care if you need to use a bathroom, just go and don't make a big deal about it.
        [–]Rocket_McGrain 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        If anyone wants proof that Trump is a true leader and a good person, he will even take a stance that might upset his own followers if he believes it's morally right.
        That's a leader worth respecting.
        [–]naptakerr 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        A lot of us who support Trump also support trans rights, because we're not SJW fuckwits who get hung up on identity politics over a person's character or merit.
        [–]Fire-KeeperIL 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        godmods are love, godmods are life
        [–]djtrump4prez 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Important to remember a lot of right wing cuckservatives who are social authoritarians are still around. It's not just the regressive left that love making a legal issue about nonsense like this.
        Trans is obviously mental illness but more pointless bureaucracy isn't the answer.
        [–]combine44 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I just think the title is missleading this is more like "don't ask don't tell" than outright support.
        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        MODS ARE GODS
        [–]socsa 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You can literally cut the cognitive dissonance here with a knife.
        [–]lukefwjrossAUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Trump is a wonderful fabulous man, I have never been do excited for a american presidential race as a tranny
        [–]ClickmanJonesFL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Exactly, nothing wrong with giving trans people equal rights. They deserve them as much as anyone else. The problem is only when their rights exceed those afforded to others.
        [–]SealithOH 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is why Trump would do leagues better than Cruz. He doesn't try to follow party lines, he simply says what he thinks is right. Disagree with him if you want, but he's not trying to follow a prescribed train of thought.
        [–]wmegenneyNAVY 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I think the statement Trump made was Genius. It was very libertarian of him, basically, there was no problem really to begin with, some people made it a problem, lets go back to when it was not a problem, and trans people are cool with him. I mean, for the general election, alot of independents and blue collar democrats will remember that and it will sway the vote in his favor. Fucking A that was the perfect answer.
        I cannot wait until he becomes POTUS
        [–]ForTheTextMN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Great subreddit. Great mods. Such a nice fucking contrast to the rest of Reddit.
        [–]superdick5NC 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        lol all da butt hurt
        [–]andreas1776CAN -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
        My main issue with the interview was the comment on Bruce Jenner. Saying he could use whatever bathroom he wanted. If he thinks he is a girl, doesn't that mean he should NOT use the men's room?? Why can he use both?? It is FUCKED UP!
        [–]Ocinea -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        Well said based mod.
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