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[–]DMann420Team Mod Disco Party Planner[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (39子コメント)

Please limit this thread to meaningful input and conversation. This is not a place for your one-liner jokes, memes or witch hunting and those comments will be removed.

[–]Madigari 75ポイント76ポイント  (3子コメント)

This still feels a bit like just encouraging people to use less direct ways to do things. Talking about xyz 3rd party app and what it does, or asking if it's down, or even how Niantic is cracking down on certain apps feels like just a loophole.

I mean, if I want to find a still working tracker app, and I ask, "Hey, does anyone know if there's still a working tracker app?", that's against the rules.

But, if I instead say, "It seems a bit ridiculous that Niantic went after Pokevision the way they did. How long do you think it's going to be before they go after the remaining ones more aggressively?", and anyone lists the names of the ones that are still around and what they're doing to respect Niantic's wishes/circumvent Niantic's wishes, that's not against the rules for either the person replying or myself with the context of the conversation. Not only that, any answers that give me the names of still working trackers means I now know, without fail, which direction to start looking in.

I mean, laying my cards on the table here, I don't particularly care one way or the other whether people ask for trackers directly or use politician-style dancing around the point to find trackers to avoid a ban. I'm just saying that, whether or not the lack of directness is a degree of separation you need to be comfortable with it, the end result is still the same: promoting the use of 3rd party applications.

[–]ignurant 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

The part that keeps getting me is:

The defnintion we are using for advocate is:

publicly recommend or support


You are 100% welcome to discuss about cheating, spoofing, or piracy without getting any infractions.

This includes:

Thanking a Location Tracker/Map for the work that they do/did.

Asking if using one of the tools will get you banned

Asking if one of the tools is down

By even talking about a tool, or map, you are in essence advocating for the tool in some fashion.

Mad props to the guy who published fast*****.com!

is ****maps.com having problems now??!? Daaaannnnnngggggggg

See what I mean? That is obviously showing my support, and advocating.

These two clarifications are at odds. Either let people talk about them, or don't.

[–]SorryImChad 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It wouldn't be confusing if it wasn't ridiculous. I think that is something the mods missing. If the rule made sense to be enforced, I don't think people would have a problem. But as it sits, 90% don't even like the existence of the rule, let alone the fact that it's a confusing rule.

[–]DougyDangerD 153ポイント154ポイント  (15子コメント)

You are 100% welcome to discuss about cheating, spoofing, or piracy without getting any infractions. This includes: Asking if one of the tools is down

Doing the following is not allowed: Asking for a Pokemon Location Map or which ones still work

So I can ask which tools are down, but not what tools aren't down?

[–]Yogg_for_your_sprog 62ポイント63ポイント  (6子コメント)

Stop reading into it! These rules are supposed to be a catch-all to remove things at mod discretion, silly.

[–]STEALTYNINJA 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol I was just about to ask the same thing.

[–]scarvet 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rather, you can talking about how great would that be if Pokevision is part of the game, but no telling people to use it

[–]meowdy 60ポイント61ポイント  (23子コメント)

What exactly prompted this change?

[–]abomino 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

I would like to know this as well.

[–]meowdy 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it is a fair question, and it should be pretty easy to answer

[–]HappyZavulon 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

The dude probably woke up and decided "Yeah, let's suddenly ban stuff people were interested in, not like they can do anything about it".

Or a wad of $$$ possibly/hopes of future cooperation from the company with the sub.

[–]xaxaxaxa4uVapeNation LUL 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

(((Niantic)))💰💰💰

[–]WimpyRanger 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Negative attitudes towards the game. They want to bleach the sub and make sure only smiles are seen.

[–]nametab23 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

'You can't be accused of ignoring the community and their outcries if you silence the community and drive them away.'

From Niantic Community Management Guidelines, 2016.

[–]jdpatricI just joined for the Zapdos 133ポイント134ポイント  (8子コメント)

I can't really believe what I'm reading here...to me "I use pokevision.com" is akin to "I look up WOW quests on WoWhead." I understand the terms of use and all, but I really feel like we're bordering on (or quite possibly well past) ridiculous here.

Botting/GPS spoofing? That I'm steadfastly against. I completely get how that ruins the game for others. But looking up locations on Pokevision? That just feels like using a Pokedex in the games. Hell...half the time I've used every ball in my inventory trying to catch the uncatchable Pidgey in a futile leveling attempt, so it wouldn't matter if there were a Dragonite across the street; I couldn't catch it anyways.

[–]Vicyorus 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course, the optimal, non douche course of action would have been to incorporate PokeVision into the toolkit available for the time being, since theirs isn't working at all in order to satiate the needs of the population of knowing where a certain nearby* Pokémon is in order to plan ahead or while on the run, kinda like Ingress' online map.

* If you're looking for Pokémon with the intent of spoofing, this becomes part of another problem. Don't do this, it's bad, and you will get bad breath an-No wait, that's smoking.

[–]Sworn_to_Ganondorf 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Over on /r/thesilphroad there was a thread on alternatives to poke vision and I downloaded a program and it scans like pokevision much better sub than here

[–]f0cus622 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh good. I was really offended by having too much information and the ability to make my own adult choices.

[–]Bad2fishtoo 80ポイント81ポイント  (17子コメント)

Hi so long time reader first time poster:

Why are you forbidding open discussions about problems in the game?

This is reddit, not Nitanics Facebook. I and many other fail to see how this is helping an already terrible situation with the game.

Why are you quoting the ToS? You are anonymous MODs on the internet they can't come after you?

Thank you, but you are making an already frustrating situation worse with childish bans for simple discussions.

For the record rule 3 is:

Reddit: DON'T BE AN ASSHAT

FC: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over

[–]leonissenbaum 123ポイント124ポイント  (8子コメント)

You do realize almost no one likes this.

[–]UMPIN 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

And they probably get a kick out of that

[–]abomino 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

It would appear so.

[–]TurtleEddie 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its like Nitanic forcing what they want on the playerbases desires!

[–]Shock_and_Awwwwww 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Usually the "we've established some rules" post is the benchmark where a good subreddit starts heading downhill.

[–]Chegism 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Niantic reached out to us yesterday..."
"New rules today!"

[–]airmancoop44 91ポイント92ポイント  (4子コメント)

Clarification or not, the rule still seems a bit silly.

I know parts of the TOS were posted, but where does it say that you can't use a third party app/website? We aren't doing anything as individuals to violate the TOS, as far as I can see.

[–]shadowbca 52ポイント53ポイント  (1子コメント)

And for that matter where did it say that the TOS apply to reddit

[–]TurtleEddie 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that the moderators failed to stop the brigading the past two days in which they are actually contracturally obliged to and told users they should self moderate it.

[–]hikaricore 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

*is completely ludicrous.

^ minor text fixes

[–]ThinkBeforeYouTalk 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember there being something in the TOS stating that you wouldn't access Niantics information (in this case, their server and pokemon locations) with some kind of third party tool. I don't remember exactly the wording, but it's definitely there.

[–]ta2 164ポイント165ポイント  (9子コメント)

Terrible policy.

[–]cleesusAll my text is minor 126ポイント127ポイント  (7子コメント)

They are quoting the TOS like it has anything to do with Reddit

[–]hikaricore 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

All hail Niantic. The bringer of life! We beseech thee oh mighty Niantic, please smile upon us and our Eeveelutions favourably. May your ToS be the word, and that word shall always ring true.

[–]ZantierChallenger II 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Do you ever get that feeling subreddits could work better with absolutely no moderation?

[–]xaxaxaxa4uVapeNation LUL 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is a difference between Good mod team and a Nazi one. r/Dota2 works fine with memes and good mods(Fuck Leafeator, tho).

[–]Dryad2 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Power corrupts as they say. Sad when MODS end up going full blown Stasi on its subscribers. I didn't think /r/pol style censorship would end up on this subreddit. Oh well. So sad how much control people want over every minute details instead of just making sure people can post anything they want.

What do I know.

[–]pee_in_buttBruh 103ポイント104ポイント  (8子コメント)

So glad I have y'all to keep me safe.

[–]Raigeko13 46ポイント47ポイント  (3子コメント)

Now we don't have to worry about anything! We're all safe in our little happy bubble.

[–]Yogg_for_your_sprog 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. We think we want free discussion, but we really don't. Thank you based mods!

[–]hhhnnnnnggggggg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You think you do but you don't.

[–]Aurora_FatalisTM20 (RAGE) 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just remember to take your Nurse Joy every day!

[–]jdcomix 175ポイント176ポイント  (93子コメント)

Asking for a Pokemon Location Map or which ones still work

How is asking a question bannable?

[–]cleesusAll my text is minor 100ポイント101ポイント  (41子コメント)

It doesn't make any sense. I could understand if this Reddit was officially run and owned by Niantic itself but it's not, so why are they banning discussion like it is.

[–]Expert_on_all_topics 72ポイント73ポイント  (16子コメント)

What do you think you're on, some kind of community made forum for community interests with no ties to corporations and their interests? Well shit. I suppose the mods want to ban something to feel the power they hold.

[–]cleesusAll my text is minor 44ポイント45ポイント  (15子コメント)

I think it's funny because I'm a moderator for a fairly big MMO (Warframe) and we don't impose any rules on Reddit. They can do whatevee they want there because it isn't the official forums.

[–]abomino 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because you're a good mod.

[–]TurtleEddie 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

It would be like trying to silence Void_Glitch datamining stuff at warframe, this is silly

[–]cleesusAll my text is minor 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup

[–]TurtleEddie 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait I mean [redacted] at warframe, in case the devs get scared DE might try to close them down if I talk about datamining warframe.

[–]Expert_on_all_topics 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I assume you impose reddit site wide rules in order to stop any illegal content such as child porn, but this kind of moderating is all reddit needs really. Thanks for being a great mod!

[–]pandacraft 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

because large games often develop close relationships with their games subreddit, so they're preemptively kissing ass so that there won't be any problems later.

[–]HappyZavulon 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

so they're preemptively kissing ass so that there won't be any problems later

Digging deep for that free future swag they may get.

[–]xaxaxaxa4uVapeNation LUL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looking at r/dota2 . LUL

[–]Yogg_for_your_sprog 15ポイント16ポイント  (18子コメント)

Their argument is that talking about a TOS violation could get this subreddit shut down.

No, there wasn't meant with sarcasm. They actually think Niantic have legal power to shut a non-affiliated community site down, based on evidence of TOS violation on some of its members. Or there's the second possibility that they're being paid off. Do we just assume Hanlon's razor here?

edit: minor text fixes

[–]phforNZ 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Under the definitions listed in the sticky, I assume they'd classify it as "asking for cheats".

[–]andsoitgoes42 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems like they're playing the Niantic game and are releasing new sticky posts repeating the same thing to drown out all the other posts.

Or maybe they're thinking in their head that this is smart. They don't realize how much they're embracing censorship while firmly planting their lips onto the buttcheeks of Niantic.

Ever see that guy who is in love with this girl who will never ever notice him? Maybe that's it, they are trying to woo them to have their senpaii notice them.

e: minor text fixes (literally this time)

[–]Citrous_Oyster 74ポイント75ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is a great way to decrease subscribers. Like Niantic did with a lack of communication these mods will accomplish with lack of common sense. Good work guys. I should've applied to be a mod when I had the chance. I moderate the r/lyft subreddit and I can tell you this rule will turn everyone against you. If you want to regain some respect from us you need to back peddle this real quick and admit it was a mistake.

[–]Honest_Kratom_Review 23ポイント24ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yup silph road is already a better sub anyways without these rules

[–]Frobro_da_truffJust happy to be alive! 8ポイント9ポイント  (13子コメント)

[–]CC321123 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, I view silph road as something different than this, because this sub is literally called Pokemon go.

[–]Honest_Kratom_Review 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

Damn time to migrate once again... The fuck ia going on here.

[–]kotoku 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thesilphroad isn't nearly as bad. Pokemongodev is great as well.

[–]Aurora_FatalisTM20 (RAGE) 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just create your own /r/pokemongocheating and make a rule that every post has to be something that'd get you banned from the other subs?

[–]DoctectiveMagmar bootyface 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This community has been banned

This community has been banned for violating the Reddit rules.

Banned 17 days ago.

3meta5me

[–]Ejolu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That rule is such cancer. It's like if all websites everywhere suddenly started banning discussion of mods for something like minecraft.

[–]lurker_lurks 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, but at least they are being polite and redirecting people to the appropriate sub. They also don't have a laundry list of rules (yet).

[–]Bad2fishtoo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They do. But they do not have a post clarifying it.

[–]jdcomix 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

No wonder that this sub is no longer growing very rapidly

[–]shadowbca 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't look at it as losing subs, just see it as "strategic downsizing" you know, just make it an echo chamber.

[–]1f90304r/pokemongocirclejerk creator 111ポイント112ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wow the mods are adjusting to a growing community almost as badly as Niantic itself.

[–]HappyZavulon 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is quite laughable really.

Did someone from Neantic bit them on their way home or something?

[–]Lark_vi_Britannia 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Modler #1: "Maybe we should ban discussion about websites that actually make Pokemon Go usable?"

Modler #2: "Yeah! Great idea! Let's ban anyone who mentions anything about Pokemon Tracker Websites!"

Modler #3: "Fantastic idea guys. Good discussion. Let's force this onto our userbase as fast as possible. Just remember, we need to be like Niantic and just do it without any notice whatsoever and then 3 days later vaguely make a statement about it but don't change anything."

[–]Dr_CSS 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Niantic jr

[–]TurtleEddie 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

The maker of [redacted] is a better community leader than any of these idiots.

[–]DoctectiveMagmar bootyface 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a paddlin'

[–]TypicalLibertarian 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably because Niantic found their global community manager and now the Reddit mods have been told what to do or else from them.

[–]imariaprime 38ポイント39ポイント  (5子コメント)

Here's a simple question:

Why do you feel this rule has to exist, in any form at all?

This isn't Niantic's board: this is a Reddit community. It should cater to the community, not the developer.

[–]thenutman69321 67ポイント68ポイント  (2子コメント)

Terrible terrible rule. Honestly can't believe you guys even thought for a second this was the right thing to do. Let alone decided to put it into play after discussions. So glad we have you guys to tell us our fun is wrong. Glad to have the clarifications but it doesn't make this idiocy any better.

[–]Zer0ofTime 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

Niantic Jr

I lost my shit just now lmao

[–]thenutman69321 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol I changed it right after posting. Some insults are just crossing the line.

[–]jdpatricI just joined for the Zapdos 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods...blink twice if Niantic is forcing you against your will to do this.

Blink three times if they have your loved ones held hostage too.

[–]budgiebum 74ポイント75ポイント  (50子コメント)

So which one of these sentences will get me banned:

  1. [app/website] exists.

  2. I use(d) [app/website] when I play.

  3. You should use [app/website] when you play.

Like I said in the last thread, saying something exists is tantamount to promoting it and telling people to use it, because you know they're going to look it up and decide for themselves.

mod response

[–]phforNZ 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably #4. All of the above.

[–]myownman 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

Per their description, 2 and 3.

I still think they're stepping in shit with 2 and 3.

This is Niantic's problem, not theirs.

[–]budgiebum 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured 3 would be a ban, but I'm curious about 1 and 2 and what the mods would do. Hell it probably depends on the mod who gets to your post first -_-

[–]jdpatricI just joined for the Zapdos 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes.

[–]budgiebum 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

nb4bans

And yes you were right.

[–]Expert_on_all_topics 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you just reply to a comment, that replied to a comment about [app/websites]? You just acknowledged [app/website] comments in /r/pokemongo. permabanned.

[–]budgiebum 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

You joke, but that could be the future.

[–]Expert_on_all_topics 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pssst. You should use Pokevision, since it's down you will waste your time thus giving me an unfair advantage. Mods I have an unfair advantage ban me for not using 3rd party programs.

[–]fawkes-trot 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

What about "I like [website/app]"? That counts as support? :\

[–]budgiebum 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Looks like it's a warning. Dunno if multiple infractions result in ban though.

[–]fawkes-trot 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

So we're allowed to thank them

You are 100% welcome to discuss about cheating, spoofing, or piracy without getting any infractions. This includes: ...thanking a Location Tracker/Map for the work that they do/did.

But you're not allowed to say you like them OR that you use them OR that they exist, basically. What a fucking joke.

[–]budgiebum 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you shadow organization for a thing I use.

[–]lyrencropt 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you can't say you use it. Thank you shadow organization for a thing someone might use, you know, if it existed, which it may or may not.

[–]BelligerentBacteria 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

So wait, advocating work arounds for the app's issues like the tracking "feature" etc isn't allowed at all now? I'm all for the banning of stuff like spoofing and "hacking" but not being allowed to praise third party work around while still being allowed to discuss them feels like an awfully fine line... I know you guys are pretty good mods, but this sort of stuff can be hard to distinguish between.

[–]melcrose 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods: You are not my mother. I am my own person. You are not responsible for my actions, words, thoughts, or works.

THEREFORE, quit behaving like my mother. If the cops come for me because I break the magical "TOS" ...

... THEY'LL COME FOR ME, NOT YOU.

Added bonus: there are zero repercussions for "breaking" a TOS beyond having your account withdrawn.

Example: If I'm using GPSBREAKERGO or some tool to pretend I'm walking around, THE WORST THEY CAN DO IS DELETE MY ACCOUNT, THEY CANNOT AND WILL NOT SUE ME.

So we can talk about.. ANYTHING.. and post links! AND ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THE WORSE THEY WILL DO IS REMOVE THE ACCOUNT, a TOS does not and cannot give them the right to sue because it is being discussed.

So again, Please exit the "we so scaredy we might get sued" vehicle on your left, and let us discuss the freakin' game.

M'kay?

))ADDED DOUBLE BONUS((

What you post about the TOS we agreed to is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read.

JUST BECAUSE we agree to those actions in game does NOT mean we cannot discuss, encourage, detail or reminisce about the ways we've broken the TOS on this board.

You're carrying over the "keep your hands in at all times" rule from the rollercoaster we road yesterday and applying it to my freakin' couch.

It's stupid, it's ridiculous, and it hacks people off (obviously.)

[–]MalachiDraven 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your rules are dumb. This is just a third party discussion forum. You're not official in the slightest and have absolutely no connections to Niantic or any obligations to them or their TOS, so why are you quoting it like you're some Niantic Deputy?

I'm so sick of reddit mods always trying to over-moderate. News flash: less is more!

[–]valmian 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

I have read the ToS. Can someone else who has read the ToS tell me directly where is says spoofing your gps is violating the ToS?

All I can think of is this:

"attempt to access or search the Services or Content, or download Content from the Services through the use of any technology or means other than those provided by Niantic or other generally available third-party web browsers (including, without limitation, automation software, bots, spiders, crawlers, data-mining tools, or hacks, tools, agents, engines, or devices of any kind);"

but GPS spoofing is not listed.

Ninja edit: I understand it says including without limitation, but GPS spoofing does not refer to a third party website depending on how it is done. It can be done entirely without third party software (I won't say how as that can be removed according to these new rules).

[–]JakeTehNub 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

This place isn't owned by Niantic so who cares if people want to talk about it?

[–]Ikeddit 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just FYI- terms of service are in no way legally enforceable. This has been found true repeatedly in courts of law. You cannot be sued for violating them, or anything like that.

[–]vivaldi_PSYYYY 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would like to know why you constantly use Niantic's ToS as your basis for justification, yet I don't see anything from the Reddit's ToS.

If anything, you should be more worried about the reddit admins, not Niantic. Your use of Niantic's ToS to establish a rule in a message board that is not hosted by them means that this rule's foundation is very questionable.

Also, based on your list of what's allowed and what's not allowed, I can say this:

"Thank you Pokevision for helping me locate my first Psyduck <3"

But not this

"Pokevision exists"

Please explain the logic behind this as I have trouble understanding it.

[–]palenerd 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

With regards to GPS spoofing talk and the new GPS-only update, where do you draw the line for troubleshooting GPS issues? Would I get banned for any of the following:

  • Recommending people with GPS issues to not update their game so they can continue playing with wifi location
  • Mentioning or recommending apps that claim to increase GPS performance (possibly through calculating then spoofing a user's location)
  • Mentioning or recommending ways to circumvent a broken GPS (likely via spoofing location to match where the player actually is)

[–]TypicalLibertarian 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

You guys still haven't answered WHY this rule needs to exist now. There wasn't a problem before hand, why take a heavy hand to this?

[–]Turil 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

A part of using the Pokemon Go game, you agreed to their Terms of Service.

A significant portion of people here have not agreed to the TOS, and are not playing the game. /r/PokemonGo is a very different beast to the Pokemon Go app.

[–]VazjaCalm over Valor 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I guess it's time for pitchforks.

[–]CanadianManChild 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup these rules will benefit Niantic I mean us, and keep Niantic I mean us safe.

[–]kotoku 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

1 Question: Why does this rule need to exist?

People can be responsible for their own choices. You aren't their parents.

[–]JasonBourn3Yest3rday 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Now, I'm going to assume we can all behave like adults, and use our brain to understand context, situations, and use our best judgement."

now you do know like 45% adults play while the rest are Children idk what you think to accomplish with insults of intelligence like that but totally its not going to really do much..

[–]God_Damnit_NappaMaster Chief is Blue Team too 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are in fact discussing about reducing or eliminating any bans for saying something like 'I use pokevision' or 'I spoof'.*

I'm going to be blunt: that rule is completely idiotic. It's not encouraging cheating. It's not telling people how to do it. You're just saying you use it. And considering "-Thanking a Location Tracker/Map for the work that they do/did." is allowed... Well your rules are completely contradictory.

[–]lv3todayGive me a little Shuckle 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lame.

[–]melcrose 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

TOS: Term of service

Not a Lawyer speak: If you abide by these terms, you can use our service

TOS: is NOT "if you violate this you can be sued"

Therefore, quit using a TOS to justify censorship.

[–]Mister_Hulk 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Now i'm going to assume..."

You know that ol' saw about assuming right?

[–]melcrose 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't "discuss about" .. .. you can "discuss regarding"

:)

[–]randomperson123321 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

"So, the other day I played pogo I gave up and called it quits after getting fed up with the broken tracking. I asked a friend of mine's how he keeps up playing with tracking broken and he confessed that he was using tracking sites.

I put him in his place telling him how bad this is but he said that he got all those rare pokes using tracking. He then showed me that he got Mew, Mewtwo and one of the 3 legendary birds thanks to tracking sites and I was really pissed that I only get zubats and the likes.

My point is that Niantic should fix tracking."

^ Spot the problem in this "within the rules" post example.

[–]FallenAngelPup 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I am still not understanding this at all. If I thank someone for such an app, that means a few things. 1.) They had to of advertised in the first place or a topic on such topic would have to be created which is most likely against the rules.

2.) By thanking them for it, that automatically means I am using it as well, which is breaking another rule. You can't simply thank someone for their maps/apk/cheats without actually using it? Well I mean you could, but that seems silly?

Besides the thanking thread...

A.) Why would you let people ask if a cheating tool will get them banned when it, in fact, will probably get them banned and it just clutters up the sub?

B.) Asking if the tool is down implies I'm using it. Rule broken.

The last two I can see, but that's it. This doesn't make ANY sense and I don't understand what Niantics ToS has to do with this subreddit at all.

[–]AmerikanInfidel 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do the mods here care if the user base breaks the TOS of the game? You guys are not responsible for making sure the TOS are not broken, this is not an official NiAntic ran subreddit.

[–]Zebrasoma 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

But this simply isn't correct. A rule has been made that has no legal standing. This is all quite silly but unless you are an attorney or you have been contacted by an admin already this is all just legal jargon to enforce an arbitrary rule.

On Reddit there are communities that:

  1. Promote jail breaking (was illegal and is against apple TOS)
  2. Allow you to buy drugs online.
  3. Provide links to textbooks for students to use for school

and so on, I'm sure you see where I'm going. If you think some small time game developer has more legal power than media companies, Apple, or the FBI to shut down a community then every moderator is woefully ignorant. Anything past breaking a Reddit sitewide rule is a matter of moderator discretion not legality.

It could be argued that the communities are allowed to exist and companies turn a blind eye. Or it could mean that a company has no power to enforce a contractual agreement between a user and a company on a website with fairly anonymous users from around the world. To be fair I'm not a legal scholar, however I am well versed in policy and contractual matters. I would enjoy evidence that I am wrong if such evidence exists.

So unless you have been contacted by an admin or can provide legal precedent for this rule, then I would say this rule is nothing but moderator overreach. Call it for what it is, don't hide behind the law.

[–]Harlequinphobia 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mods must have sold their souls to Niantic for 200 pokeballs and 10 lucky eggs.

[–]Harlequinphobia 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I were a mod I would rather be known for approving of open speech based on the Reddit rules alone. If people want to discuss certain aspects which may be frowned upon by Niantic, well the only people who care are Niantic. I didn't realize we are putting on some dog and pony show for Niantic for internet brownie points.

This sub will become a joke and another one with free speech will come along and replace it. If someone cheats they do it at risk of their own Pokemon Go account getting banned not the rest of us. Cheating is a life choice, hell we won't even be able to explain to newbies what the pros and cons are of cheating which would benefit this sub. It sounds like the mods were bought.

[–]lecollectionneur 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

So now mods have to be as dumb as Niantic when it comes to maps. Great.

[–]PonyTaGo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a joke right?

That's only the T&Cs. People advocating cheating might not even be bound by the T&Cs as they aren't even playing the game. They could just be trolling us.

You can't make a blanket rule based on the assumption someone is actually bound by the T&Cs...

[–]TylerAnwar 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man this is such bs lmao, it's a game why does it need to be so heavily moderated, let people talk about what they wanna talk about

[–]paradoxallyVALOR BOYZ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

With this BS policy, more people will get banned on Reddit than on Pokemon Go itself.

[–]Dr_Robot_Nick 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey. Look at all the support this is getting from the sub! Good job, guys!

[–]AzureRathalos 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is such a huge crock of shit. You guys are the worst.

[–]Whrex 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definition*

[–]MrBoyd69 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone bring the cameras out and tell Ashton Kutcher to go home? Instead of realizing they made a mistake they just double down. Such a terrible policy, plz come back to earth.

[–]mellyoz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like how the mods of this sub keep getting worse since day 1.

From the 'sponsored' meet up, to the thinly veiled sticked ad with godawful justifications, mods self sticking non-important comments and now this.

Keep up the bad work guys, it's super entertaining. Break the limits! Go beyond your worst!

[–]inoxia 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Considering the outrage in this thread, you might want to review your rules

[–]TheOnlyMego 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I uninstalled the game a while ago. I severed my acceptance of the ToS of the game by doing so. It's ridiculous that I should have to agree to the ToS to discuss a game on Reddit.

[–]sitdownstandup 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a joke, right? You really spent time typing all of that out?

What a time to be alive

[–]TonberryKnife 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is a battery pack cheating then? It's a 3rd party device that definitely gives me an advantage over people who do not use it. There TOS is really vague and interpreted based on their faulty system.

[–]Rantmachine 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you decide to be Douche bags and can ban me for sharing knowledge ... fine by me. /see ya

[–]Lark_vi_Britannia 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mods can go fuck themselves with these terrible new rules.

Pokemon Location Maps are not cheating until Niantic adds the tracker in-game again. Otherwise, Pokemon Go is a steamy pile of shit.

[–]kalez238Team Helix 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if I have ever seen a mod/stickied post hated this much. Bravo.

It is so sad how almost everything related to Pokemon Go just continues to circle the drain. :(

[–]kacman 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess it's on to the Silph Road. These rules are pretty ridiculous. I mod a game subreddit too and we remove any explicit hacks of the game to give currencies, characters, and whatever, but exploits of the game mechanics and bugs are totally allowed, and we actually have reps from the company who visit the subreddit and communicate occasionally. These rules are overboard on what's considered hacking, plus we've had no interaction with Niantic to really care what they think of the subreddit and trying to police it for for them.

[–]KerismoValor Chief 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a joke, this sub was the only thing I liked about pokemongo.

Y'all can fuck right off with your rules and shove em where the sunshine don't shine

[–]CMDR_NineteenLv 13 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about mentioning or posting a picture of strapping your device to a drone or animal to hatch eggs or do other Pokemon Go activities?

[–]kgms_hylian 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn man you may even get arrested for that. /s

[–]potatoaster 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS

[–]shatarg 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still waiting for all the pokemon go streamers thats spoofing to get banned. They even give out tutorials how to download X and how to play on the computer. Screensshots links etc. Nothing seems to happen

[–]AmerikanInfidel 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

How many people on the mod team work for or are being paid off by Niantic?

[–]bambikill 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

So have you guys been bought out or what? This is a laughable way to put up a big safety net for yourselves. This is Reddit, if you are afraid of big ole Niantic, just don't be a mod. Unless you still want that money....oh wait....

*[Deleted]

[–]SpartanSavior01 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does the Pokenotify (I'm not sure what it was called, but it was a top post here a few weeks ago) included as a .apk, or is not allowed? Originally the app was on the play store.

[–]zackyd665 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for taking our feedback regarding the matter into consideration and possibly making changes for that feedback.

I don't wish to bother you guys after further but may I ask one final question. What was the driving factor to possibly ban players who while didn't advocate cheating but simply admitting to using said tools?

[–]ToasterP 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait so we can ask about is map/location apps/sites are down, but we can't ask which ones work?

So what as long as I'm the first one to mention it in conversation it's cool?

[–]Havok1988Blood for the Blood God 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

So to clarify, if I ask if Poke Mesh or PokeScanner from the guys at r/pokescanner are still up and running, that's OK. But if I say "you should definitely try these out because they still work" it's a warning first or a ban?

[–]McRibsAndCokeInstinct is love, Instinct is life. 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Inb4 a "reddit-lution" and the community recreate the Pokemon Go sub.

[–]Tsagu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe if Niantic would set the game to be downloaded by compatible phones, instead of denying it, not so many people would have to resort to side loading an APK file to install the game and its updates.

[–]DingoPK 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I liked about reddit is reading all kind of topics openly without restrictions. The people of the sub decides whats good or bad that's what reddit about.. I believe.

True there are rules for many subReddit & should be followed, but I think the beauty of the subs is the ability to share whatever you want. So many restrictions "guidlines" makes things limited, doesn't work properly on the Internet.

Edit: [so many text fix]

[–]Thykk3r 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't understand how pokemon location maps are cheating per se or how it's against terms of service when it doesn't actively tamper with a game like "bots" or "mods"

[–]-Chinchillax- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has an alternate /r/PokemonGo been created yet?

Maybe something like the relationship between /r/meirl and /r/me_irl, but with PokemonGo?

[–]Dumb_Animal 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I think I get what's going on. They're just trying to turn everything surrounding this game into a drama-filled shitshow, so now we have a game about tracking Pokemon where you can't track Pokemon and a subreddit about Pokemon Go where you're not allowed to talk about important goings on in the PoGo community. Pretty sneaky sis.

[–]Iamthetophergopher 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ you guys are worst than Niantic

[–]MrGeckoTheSalamanderBetter dead than red! 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok let's all just take a moment to agree on this:

August 9th we all bring a dog, any dog, and walk it in front of the Niantic building. We let it poop right in front of it then walk away. Don't pick it up.

Not all at once. One person at a time dammit.

/s

[–]shadowbca 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the r/news hits the fan

[–]serpentinewitch 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

How is pokevision significantly different enough from user-created maps for pokemon spawns and pokestops that one is cheating and not the other?

[–]TheForgetfulRedditorTeam Mystic 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pokemon Location Maps

Does that only include services like PokeVision or does it also include services where people have to log-in and manually say they caught pokemon X in this spot... If the later is included we'll have to ban talking about facebook.

[–]Sir_Killington 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"sites that have or potentically could"

you probably mean potentially, because that other word isn't a word. Compared to a lot of other subs, this seems super over moderated. Tons of subs are just for pirating, yet we aren't allowed to share free to play apks to help others? Doesn't make much sense.

[–]Zenrot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your new rule post is at 29% upvoted and you're still sticking to it? Wow. Can you possibly in any way justify keeping a rule that has a 29% approval rating?

Is there any reason to use this sub over /r/thesilphroad other than dank memes?

[–]HS007 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did Niantec employees take over this sub or something? LOL why are you quoting Niantec TOS on reddit anyways? Stop trying to over-mod the sub needlessly.

[–]The_EA_Nazi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Flat out No.

This is a ridiculous rule, to the point I'm questioning whether Niantic offered you guys perks or early info in exchange for this. Call me tinfoil. Well. I'll point you in the direction of the old mods at /r/battlefront

[–]bracesthrowaway 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm glad /r/thesilphroad has no rules like this. They're also more focused on data gathering than memeing and shitposting.

Basically, what I'm saying is we had a good run. I'll be seeing ya.

Edit: And they have the same rule now too. Dumb.