It links to this post that essentially argues that Clinton is an anti-minority feminist candidate even if a better choice than Trump (read it for yourself, I'm probably not tl:dr-ing it enough).
If you're referring to Johnathan McIntosh, he is apparently no longer affiliated with FF and hasn't been for some time. I just found out a couple weeks ago.I know Anita's business partner, who also has access to this Twitter account, says some crazy stuff on his personal account.
He's insane.
I think this is also a good point. If you're young, seeing a woman President might be cool, but in the end, it's something you were expecting. In addition, if you're young, it's sort of hard to conceive just what the political landscape was like 15 or 20 years ago, so it's hard to forgive Hillary Clinton's stances that were less liberal than the world today.I've seen a LOT of anti-Hillary stuff on Tumblr among feminists, queer feminists, feminist women of color, and I think that a lot of the reason for this is that the internet and tumblr specifically skews young and to these young women, seeing a female as president isn't as big of a deal as it would be to older women because to them, a female president has been feasible, and inevitable, even.
I was all ready to hear the argument, but it just repeats the statement over and over. Why does she think that Clinton is the enemy of marginalized women? She overwhelming has the support of african-american voters (those voters were hugely important in her winning the nomination), so this probably isn't a view that's very largely held among minority voters.I saw this on Twitter earlier:
It links to this post that essentially argues that Clinton is an anti-minority feminist candidate even if a better choice than Trump (read it for yourself, I'm probably not tl:dr-ing it enough).
Frankly, I didn't even know this was an issue among feminists. Do people here share that view? Or is it some isolated cases? As I took it, Clinton's nomination is a pretty big milestone for women. Not to say I'm opposed to discussion, which is why I made this thread.
So maybe I've been over-exposed to this type of language, but doesn't that seem a bit like a gendered insult (calling her cut throat instead of powerful, which a man with similar credentials to her would likely be called).A rich, cut throat woman who has committed countless crimes against marginalized people should not be the stuff your dreams are made of.
What is a TERF?Also, this is maybe a little rich coming from an organization run by someone accused of being a TERF.
Yeah, I gotta agree. Now's not the time to bring that shit up. LOLi'm fine with that, but i feel like it would be much more prudent to call her out on this stuff juuust after she gets elected. because i'm sure that FF would rather hillary over trump.
Yo you can't just drop a line like this and not provide any links.I wouldn't take FemFreq as any sort of representation of feminism et al since it's a whole spectrum of thoughts and attitudes, not a monolith.
Also, this is maybe a little rich coming from an organization run by someone accused of being a TERF.
If you're referring to Johnathan McIntosh, he is apparently no longer affiliated with FF and hasn't been for some time. I just found out a couple weeks ago.
Oh? It's just talk I recall seeing on Twitter. I just think it's kind of ironic, not trying to bring a huge allegation to the table.Originally Posted by freeofgreed
Yo you can't just drop a line like this and not provide any links.
Yeah, exactly. I can appreciate if I shouldn't have brought it up though. My bad.Originally Posted by The Technomancer
There are some circles especially on Twitter that use TERF as an insult against just about any feminist who disagrees with them irrespective of their actual opinions on transwomen.
President Barbie -SNLI've seen a LOT of anti-Hillary stuff on Tumblr among feminists, queer feminists, feminist women of color, and I think that a lot of the reason for this is that the internet and tumblr specifically skews young and to these young women, seeing a female as president isn't as big of a deal as it would be to older women because to them, a female president has been feasible, and inevitable, even.
I don't think the younger demographic are big Hilary fans in general, POC included(could be wrong), which is fine, but she's still infinitely better than any Republican, especially a demagogue candidate like Trump and that is not actually up for debate.I've never heard this was the case. It's one of her strongest demographic groups.
It's a bit related:If you laser focus in on negatives, even ones tangentially related to her, ignoring, nuance, context, and even the positive contributions she has made, then yeah, you can make Hillary out to be Hitler.
Seemed less about feminism and more about race.
I'm perfectly fine with making that claim ¯_(ツ)_/¯Originally Posted by foxuzamaki
You wouldn't make that large claim if I was you, I know plenty of women of color who are head over hills for hillary
How much time do you spend speaking to non-white women who are feminists (I'm not accusing you of anything, just wondering)? Voting patterns don't indicate people's feelings towards her.I've never heard this was the case. It's one of her strongest demographic groups.
I'm perfectly fine with making that claim ¯_(ツ)_/¯
How much time do you spend speaking to non-white women who are feminists (I'm not accusing you of anything, just wondering)? Voting patterns don't indicate people's feelings towards her.
These people are fringe.
Prove it. You folks don't get to dictate what is and isn't feminist just because it conflicts with your own ideology.It's an irrelevant fringeview, but it exists, yes.
Yeah but people have been talking about this sort of stuff for years. It's only because of the election that it's actually being talked about more.i'm fine with that, but i feel like it would be much more prudent to call her out on this stuff juuust after she gets elected. because i'm sure that FF would rather hillary over trump.
Didnt go over well the first time so they called a mulligan.This is the new tweet:
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/760288049938837504
So...?
It is my opinion that it is a troll post.Prove it. You guys don't get to dictate what is and isn't feminist just because it conflicts with your own ideology.
Talk about a pivot...This is the new tweet:
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/760288049938837504
So...?