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[–]SgtPepper1806 242ポイント243ポイント  (117子コメント)

I vehemently believe that women, trans people and my fellow LGBT people already have equal rights and now they're just nitpicking. I also believe kids need to be raised to have a thicker skin and not take so many things so seriously.

[–]Audacious531 178ポイント179ポイント  (12子コメント)

In my state, my employers have the right to fire me for being LGBT, and I can legally be kicked out of my secular community college for it (though it hasn't happened.).

I actually got kicked out of my college's Christian outreach group because they thought my brother was gay.

Gays don't have equal rights until they can enter a public business knowing that they will be served, and they can admit to being gay at work knowing that they will not be fired.

[–]neverbuythesun 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are countries where we can still be legally killed for it.

[–]ButterflySwarm 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

This argument comes up all the time and it's the stupidest thing. Just because it sucks elsewhere doesn't mean we can't improve things here. It's like you complain about getting the wrong order and the waiter says "Well in Africa they're starving to death, so suck it up.".

I'm a lesbian and I honestly believe we're near the point of true equality in America for LGBT folks, but as long as a bigoted employer can fire me for having a girlfriend we're not there yet. That's absolutely not too much too ask for or 'nitpicky'.

[–]Ovary--acting -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Equal doesn't mean awesome.

A woman in Iowa was fired for her boss having a crush on her.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/iowa-woman-fired-attractive-back-moves/story?id=19851803

A boy was expelled from his college for being falsely accused of rape by his rapist.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/11/amherst-student-was-expelled-for-rape-bu

At will employment and private institutions are a hell of a thing.

[–]imsohungryplzfeed 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So the other injustices therefore justify.... More injustices? How fucking ridiculous an assertion.

[–]Ovary--acting [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Equal doesn't mean awesome.

Don't say equal then. Stop misusing words on purpose.

[–]Zack1018 200ポイント201ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the opposite of answering the question. Literally every thread about any of those topics is filled with highly upvoted comments that agree with this opinion.

[–]Psuphilly 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

These Reddit threads are impossible. Only the popular 'controversial' opinions get upvoted.

[–]skgoa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends on the sub.

[–]Planepundit 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

My impression is it's not really a discussion about rights in the sense of the right to vote or the like, but rather a matter of being aware of societal unconscious bias. Would you agree that biases still exist towards some of these groups, and that being aware of and/or trying to eliminate those biases is still a useful goal?

[–]III-V 91ポイント92ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why would you ever vehemently believe something you're not an expert on? Something you are insulated and isolated from?

Transgendered people are disportionately the victims of violence and job discrimination.

[–]abstract_warrior 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to reddit. Where people follow their feels, and facts don't be reals. Social Justice, politics, science, you name a topic, I'll find you a fuckwit who vehemently opposes you and can't back it up.

[–]tits-mchenry 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

In some states employment protection for LGBT people doesn't exist.

[–]GIfuckingJane 66ポイント67ポイント  (38子コメント)

You believe this world wide? You know gays still get killed and women cant vote in Saudia Arabia, right?

[–]SgtPepper1806 28ポイント29ポイント  (31子コメント)

Not worldwide no. I'm specifically referring to the US and UK. And the fact that feminist and LGBT movements spend more time in the west campaigning against "microaggressions" and "manspreading" than they do fighting against that truest, harshest inequalities in other parts of the world.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a thread for un-Redditlike opinions, not the most Redditlike opinions.

[–]SnarfraTheEverliving 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a woman in the US in a STEM field, let me tell you there is still a lot of discrimination. I am still working under people who wont let me do certain tasks because theyre "men's work". People still think that it's "cute" im allowed to work with chemicals. And as for being gay, I also get stares and and get placed at tables big enough for 12 when I go on dates with my girlfriend.

[–]katasian 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm an American citizen and a woman. I've been denied employment solely because of my gender. I was actually told in a job interview to my face that I am a liability as a woman because I can't defend myself against a man who might try to take advantage of me and therefore I can't be hired.

This was in a socially liberal area.

We're really not at an equality mentality yet.

[–]DOisbae 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

49 people were killed for being gay just 2 months ago.... I agree that we have it a lot better here in the West, but there are still a lot of problems that need to be addressed (not microaggressions and such, those are stupid). It's a little hard to understand when you're not gay and you've never experienced these issues, and that's completely fine.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shhh, you're interrupting their circlejerk.

[–]Spambop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, why aren't you campaigning against them then, since you're so concerned?

[–]Osafune2 14ポイント15ポイント  (19子コメント)

I totally agree, "manspreading" is not a fucking issue. The treatment of women in many parts of the Islamic world is a huge issue for women, and yet white middle class feminists will vehemently defend Islam. Baffling.

[–]fdxrobot 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's because culture is not religion. Islam doesn't advocate for that type of treatment. It's not just middle class white feminists. The Muslims in the US just want to practice their religion the way they interpret it, like anyone else, without being harassed.

[–]Osafune2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Culture is tied in heavily with religion, particularly in parts of the middle East where islamic fundamentalism is rife. Islam, like other religions, is contemptuous of women and it's teachings play a direct role in their subjugation.

I wasn't referring to liberal western Muslims who have cherry picked and bent their religion to fit in with our culture and society.

[–]GeneralRose 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, actually compared directly to the Bible and the Torah the Quran is kind of slightly progressive. It actually called for women to be able to inherit amongst other things. It's just that this was written a really long time ago and following something that old directly to the letter is archaic and honestly a stupid way to live your life.

Still, viewed through the lense of the society it was created in and at the time of its creation it actually took a few steps forward for women (and then stood still for centuries while the rest of the world walked miles forward)

[–]swirledwHoes 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why is that baffling?

I see many things about society in the Middle East that I don't like. That's not a reason to be 'against' Islam. Also of American feminists will try to better the situation in America. That the situation in other parts of the world might be worse isn't an argument against that.

I don't see the issue with 'manspreading' either though. Let people sit however they wanna sit if it doesn't directly impair others.

[–]Osafune2 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Because of how Islam treats and views women, its very regressive and the absolute antithesis of feminism and women's rights, so it's strange to see the religion defended so ardently by feminists.

[–]swirledwHoes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally think all religion is kinda stupid.

But you know with all this feminism and cultural sensitivity and political correctness stuff, the goal is to make society a nicer place for everyone. I have my own personal beliefs about what's best for us, and I'm vocal about it, but I always try to stay civil and accepting of everyone I discuss serious matters with, because hostility is completely counterproductive in discourse, and I don't believe in objective right and wrong anyways. I just try to think in terms of what most benefits the most people.

So I do think vocalizing my concern with gender roles that can impair personal development might be beneficial to society. While trying to ease the hate and tension towards Islam is probably a good thing, too.

As I said I think your first concern should be to be peaceful with someone before you try to discuss your beliefs with them, because everything else would be counterproductive.

So that's how I think about these things. I hope you can make out what I mean through the rambling. Sorry - I just felt like it. Whatever.

[–]swirledwHoes 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

What do you know about Islam? Yo can find some pretty fucking misogynistic passages in the Bible, too.

Pretty much any behavior can be justified with both the Bible and the Quran.

Quran Book review

[–]Osafune2 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

There is plenty of life destroying nonsense to be found within all the abrahamic religions

[–]swirledwHoes -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does that mean you changed your mind?

Man oh man that would be the first time that I experience this on the internet.

[–]Osafune2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, I was never saying "Christianity and Judaism are awesome, but fuck Islam!"

I am an atheist and regard all religion as largely unnecessary. However I currently believe that Islam can breed the most toxic form of fundamentalism and needs a reformation much like Christianity had.

[–]Ugly_Painter 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Manspreading?

[–]Seizure_Salad_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Men who sit on a bench and spread their legs Manspreading

[–]swirledwHoes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Wikipedia article you linked says manspreading is

used to describe a man sitting in public transport with legs wide apart, thereby covering more than one seat

Which I think we can all agree is a friggin dick move.

As far as I understood this, the problem isn't that men display their dominance or anything - this is being taken out of context to ridicule feminism, I think.

[–]Popcorn_Rat 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's what they call guys sitting with their legs open.

[–]Ugly_Painter 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

And this is a problem?

[–]Popcorn_Rat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently. I guess they are to busy writing articles about it to ask the guy to move over a bit or find somewhere else to sit.

[–]jelly4ish -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

God I would love someone to try and call me out for this. I would have such a great time ripping into them.

[–]aido727 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shows they have devolved into self-serving minority groups (that ironically get more attention, help and coverage than the "majorities" now) who for the most part aren't actually interested in the global problems they take action in the name of.

I really think the 1st world is past having the need for feminism.

[–]thisnamesuxx 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

you seem very out of touch

[–]AnActualHorse 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I definetely agree with you, and I feel your pain that if you even mention this then you get downvoted to hell.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because he's not only wrong but this is the most Redditlike opinion he could have expressed.

[–]mememesters -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do realise that your #HairyArmpit campaign on twitter does nothing to help further there cause, right ?

[–]Earwolfman_Jack 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you know any trans person in real life? Like actually know and talk to, not just know that they exist.

[–]Bobsorules 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

Technically black people are legally equal (even favored due to affirmative action type stuff), but very few today, except for extreme right wing conservatives, believe that racism is behind us.

[–]swirledwHoes 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why do police officers have such an easy time shooting them?

Why are black people so much poorer than whites on average. I don't know abou the law. But culturally racism is alive and well. Although overall the situation is getting better I think.

[–]LightbreakTwins 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Equal in terms of the law? Pretty much, there are many anti discrimination laws in place. Culturally? No way.

[–]bong-cop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uhhh dude pretty sure I could be denied jobs in a lot of states just because i'm trans

[–]Spambop 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

That is a laughably misinformed opinion. Do you you actually know any of the people that you're describing? I read a statistic the other day that 40% of all LGBT people can be locked up just for existing. How does that fit with your nit picking theory?

How old are you, by the way? Just curious.

[–]odious_odes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

40% of all LGBT people can be locked up just for existing

Huh, where did you read this? At the very least, imprisonment is usually based on behaviour (e.g. a man having sex with a man) rather than identity (e.g. being gay).

[–]Spambop 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh that's fine then

[–]odious_odes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not fine, and I never said it was. But at least try to be accurate when you rebut someone.

[–]grandballoon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You might vehemently believe it, but it's factually untrue. You can be fired for being LGBT in many states, and many transgender people can't get the hormones, therapy or surgeries they require because insurance won't pay for it. Then there are "religious liberty laws" across the south that let businesses refuse to serve LGBT people, and adopting from other countries is very difficult if you're not a straight couple.

[–]cyclopsrex 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

LGBTQ people don't even have equal rights under the law in many states. In many countries they have no protection or are criminalized.

[–]PneumaticCow 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

At my college we had a campus-wide discussion about micro-aggressions. This crazy campus group wanted students and faculty to have mandatory "diversity training" and take classes in "diversity issues," all so they can have a safe space.

Asking someone "Where are you from" is now considered a micro-aggression according to a ridiculous list created by UNC. You will meet racists, sexists, and all around assholes in life, and you need to learn how to deal with them.

[–]scribbler8491 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yes, as the Christian fundies used to say to gay men, "You have the same marriage rights as me. You have a right to marry any woman you wish."

[–]swirledwHoes 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but they're not allowed to marry their loved ones. Also why the fuck would you care about who some strangers marry?

[–]sir_snufflepants 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah but they're not allowed to marry their loved ones.

If marrying who you love is the standard, be prepared for marriages society, even now, would never accept, including ones between siblings and minors.

Any exception to marriage that constrains it to one man and one woman often comes off as being incredibly arbitrary.

[–]swirledwHoes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Minors is a different deal because they don't have full responsibility over themselves.

I don't have a problem with siblings marrying, as long as they don't make retarded babys. And I'm not even sure if I should have a problem with that.

[–]scribbler8491 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't. I was just quoting the idiot fundies. (The word, "fundies," should have been a clue.)

[–]FireFtw -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Christian fundies

Yeah, I don't think I need to read the rest of the comment.

[–]scribbler8491 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fundamentalists need to shield themselves from anything that might challenge their beliefs. Good work.

[–]GrewUpWith2Dads 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's almost impossible to say this without coming across as a complete cunt but I agree with you on this.

[–]idownvotestuff 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's almost impossible to say this without coming across as a complete cunt but I agree with you on this.

Pretty much the essence of reddit.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's almost impossible to say this without coming across as a complete cunt

Gee, I wonder why.

[–]FlybyMed 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Political correctness. If a minority group is vocal about something, it's perceived as wrong to oppose them.

[–]DovahSpy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's cunty to agree with someone with similar opinions?

[–]Maximo9000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's cunty to type out that you agree with someone instead of upvoting like a normal person.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a thread for most un-Redditlike opinions. Try again, troll.

[–]SoaringMuse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You did not mention racial minorities. Do you believe that their rights or societal stature are still unequal to that of Caucasians?

[–]capncook49 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The LGBT community totally have equal rights, yep!

[–]kelpie394 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just spent 5 months fighting with my insurance company to get my basic health care covered, as a trans person. Yaayyyy.

[–]Dookie_boy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Care to share your struggles ?

[–]kelpie394 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Due to a rider worked out by my employer, transition is theoretically covered by my insurance plan. I started hormone treatment 8 months ago, and after picking up my first testosterone prescription, I was billed for the remained of the cost. A phone call fixed that pretty fast, and I went on to try to get top surgery worked out.

Long story, but essentially the insurance company was insisting that I meet their requirements for genital surgeries (including 12 months on hormones), before they would cover the surgery (double mastectomy and chest reconstruction). That flies in the face of all current standards of care for trans people. Five months, 5 letters from 3 therapists, 2 appeals, some pressure from the HR department at my work, and a lot of bureaucratic legwork later they have finally approved it, and I'm scheduled for surgery on September 6th :).

Charming part of why they were denying me the surgery- they wanted me to be "living as a man" for 12 months, whatever that means, so I "understand the social consequences". I pointed out to them that while I'm socially transitioned, have a man's haircut, wear men's clothing, etc, I have 42DD breasts, and it's pretty damn hard to get read as a man when you have large breasts. It's like telling someone that to get gastric bypass surgery they have to live as a thin person for 12 months so they can understand the social consequences of being thin. /rant.

[–]markmore679 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

GMO kids with leather skin

[–]swirledwHoes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel that this is sadly not that unpopular.

[–]not_a_new_one 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not unreddit-like. That's what all of reddit thinks.

[–]LockeDiesFiring 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. People get offended far too easily. Sure, some assholes take things too far, but saying anyone who doesn't cater to you is a bigot only destroys everything we worked for. For the record, I myself identify as a bi guy, though I generally date women. I can still top as normal, they generally like anal, and most find it hot to switch roles and peg in the right circumstance.

[–]PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a bisexual male, I mostly agree on you on this. It's true that there are inequalities in individual categories, with everyone higher or lower than everyone else (this includes males, cis, and straight). However, these things are to be expected from any society ran by people, and if you average it all out, all people are just about equal, at least here in America.

[–]namesrue 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a stereotypical reddit opinion.

[–]PM_ME_YOU_HORNY_SLUT 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. Honestly I don't give a fuck who someone fucks as long as they're chill.

[–]Amberleaf29 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree on the equal rights. Now, the problem is that many people don't feel it should be that way so they try to circumvent the law/common decency or whatever to either change things back or try to put these groups "in their place". Those are the people that I have a problem with. I think a lot of people don't see it but for the most part under the law it's pretty fair these days; it's just individual people and certain groups who are causing problems.

Edit: Want to clarify based on other comments I saw... I'm talking about the US, Canada, Europe... In a lot of countries extreme oppression does still exist!

[–]12-juin-3049 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean depending on what state you live in you can't even get married. I'm bisexual myself and I can obviously see the problem with that

[–]ConnerDavis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps you should specify which country you mean, because LGBT people having equal rights is absolutely untrue in some parts of the world.

That said, I mostly agree that gay people have equal rights (although, I'm like disgracefully uneducated about this for a gay guy), but it is important to push for acceptance, because we have a major presidential candidate who would "Strongly consider [appointing justices to overturn the gay marriage ruling]" (Source) and if that happened, then we wouldn't have equal rights anymore.

[–]rockidol -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's still legal to discriminate against them in some states. And in other countries (like say Russia) they really don't have equal rights.

[–]RyvenZ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

LGBT had equality, until some right-wing cunts decided to make laws against same sex marriage because "the bible"

I agree with you on the kid part, though.

[–]efrhr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

LGBT had equality, until some right-wing cunts decided to make laws against same sex marriage because "the bible"

What? Those laws simply reiterated the existing position - until recently same-sex marriages hadn't been legally recognized in the West since the days of the Roman Empire. And marriage laws are only a tiny part of the institutionalized discrimination that LGBT people have faced.

I agree with you on the kid part, though.

As someone who spent a significant portion of my childhood dealing with suicidal thoughts (largely as a result of homophobia) and feeling as though I couldn't talk to anyone about it, fuck off.