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[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 7ポイント8ポイント  (29子コメント)

Seriously. I have my own opinions, and I can accept the fact that many of the users will disagree with them. But damn, when you have even the mods (not all of them) delete your posts and give you warnings even though other people deserve them, there's no point in even trying to make things right.

You attacked the user while the user was attacking your argument. There's a huge difference. If you really feel the moderating team made a mistake let us know via modmail. The decisions are always made by the mod team not just by one mod so unless you think all 5 have personal vendetta against you then I'm not sure why you don't think you didn't deserve it.

Sure, I can get a little rude with my replies sometimes, but that's usually because people deserve it, or they're purposefully trying to start something with me.

So someone breaks a rule and you break it to as justification for your action? The saying goes two wrongs don't make a right not the other way around.

Apart from personal opinions, this subreddit cannot handle criticism.

I disagree look at the amount of media post, and shipping post since the meta thread week that actively posted their dislike for it. The subreddit changed and even had more users provide personal opinions on certain aspects of the series.

For example, a post was made a few weeks ago that compared One Piece to Fairy Tail. The OP made decent points, especially about the animation. What did this subreddit do? Completely ignore the points and just start attacking the OP.

When you're comparing a series to one it is accused of copying in the fan base you can't expect the best of discussions to arise from it. Look at what we did for the one piece anniversary it got massacred and bashed by so many especially on the one piece subreddit.

Compare this subreddit to the Bleach subreddit. They are EXTREMELY kind and actually value other peoples' opinions (although their jokes can get a bit overrused sometimes). This subreddit is the complete opposite.

I've been to that sub and no they aren't they have show worse qualities than this sub.

On to the posts themselves: if I had to be completely honest, the posts on this subreddit are mediocre at best. They're either media posts or really bad self posts that are just there to boost posts/karma.

That's your own personal opinion on the matter, there are tons of great content even if I don't agree with some of the theories themselves the users work hard on them. I'm not sure if you're expecting some 10 page term paper on the meaning of nakama or what have you but  the content is good. It caters to all aspects of the fandom.

I just gave up on trying to make creative self posts because of how bad this subreddit is with them.

You only had 1 theory and even in that theory you basically said it didn't mean anything just own personal thoughts. The rest were questions about certain things of the series.

On topic with the posts: this subreddit can be REALLY biased. Seriously. No one can have a discussion about their favorite characters without there being some kind of bias.

There will always be bias it's part of human nature. Just because there is bias doesn't mean you can't have a discussion.

If someone even disagrees with you, they'll just personally attack you.

I'm pretty sure that's what you did to the user a few days ago yet you're complaining about it now.

The next hour, the user messages me saying I'm immature then immediately goes to cuss me out.

You should have let the mods know because even if it is via pm it still a matter  that was a result of a discussion on the subreddit.

And apparently, ships and favorite characters take priority because it's the only damn thing this subreddit cares about. Seriously.

Sure I can agree that character pairings have been a main focus of the sub but that's changed for the better as of late.

You have mods shoving NaLu down your throat.

No one shoved NaLu down your throat. If you're complaint is about the banners then I'm sorry you don't like them but there hasn't been a NaLu banner since the NaLu day thing a few months ago. The submission page is always an image that was done by mashima that fits the theme of the banner.

You have them using personal bias in decision making. And I'm not talking about all mods. But SOME mods will ignore the other person just to get you banned.

Absolutely wrong. Whenever we are deciding whether to punish a user or not all the mods voice their opinion on the matter. For example xXxZeusKillerxXx was banned because he on 2 separate occasions actively provoked users and then in the second occasion deleted his comments. The decision for the temporary ban was unanimous.

Here's the banned list since you think we always ban users for any little thing.

It's seriously that petty. I'm expecting this post to be removed/downvoted because I'll be "baiting arguments", but that'll just prove my point.

You are trying so hard to sound like a victim when you really aren't, you are just a user who's views on the moderating team has been negative ever since you were removed from the Skype chat for actively provoking users.

The mods can be unjust as hell if they either don't like you or they don't like your opinions.

No, for example I'm not a fan of emperor spriggan work, can't stand the fact that RainIceCloud believes that Serena is all that amazing but I'm not going out of my way to make sure we get them banned.

Also, to add to the OP: This fuhrer thing and the o/ jokes are seriously annoying. Like, I don't know how that joke is still alive. It really does look like self promotion and just sucking up to the mods. (Again, this is my personal opinion)

I hate the Fuhrer gag, to no end but it's not going to stop so I don't bother trying to change that.

Also, the new user titles. What's going on? I thought they were given to people who contributed to the sub, not for sucking up to the mods with titles like "Spidey's #1 fan" or "Chrysalis". Last time I checked, users actually needed to earn their titles.

You are indeed correct, however the Spidey's #1 Fan was a wager between me and /u/RainIceCloud which he was wrong in so he has that title, I'm pretty sure I'm not his favorite person either so that is that not because he sucks up to me. All the titles are on me so I'll take responsibility for that.

Anyway, I'd like to see what you guys think about this. I know people will automatically disagree with me just because of the reputation I have on the subreddit, but I'm asking that you please put that aside and give me a genuine opinion on the state of the subreddit.

I always try my best to make the sub very active, very positive, always trying to bring new ideas to the table and it's always the same thing. People voicing their dislike for what the mods are doing, me getting hate mail, threads being posted about me being a ____, people complain that nalu is being shoved down their throats. This subreddit is never happy, it's always upset about something no matter how hard I try. I put a new banner and the 1st comment will be well of course it had to have NaLu, a comment or post is removed and the 1st thought is Spidey/Mods have something against me. I mean for months I was harassed via pm, because of the stuff I was doing for the sub, then during the golden week when I had a character banner for a few characters for 7 days I was harassed 2x as much. Everyone has got to realize that I'm human, I make mistakes, no I don't force nalu down your throat, no I won't ban you because you hate NaLu, no I won't ban you because you talk shit about me to my face or behind my back, hell I won't even remove the post I'll leave it up because I've come to realize that no matter what I do it there will be criticism and backlash so I would rather just let it play out. Like this weekend there was going to be something done for the sub by the mod team so you guys and gals can get to know us better but I don't even feel like being a part of it because I already know the perception I carry ever since JaxSpider and Rya11111 (who abandoned the sub) stepped down, ever since Pie was removed for a bit but it blew up and made it a giant debacle that went as far as subredditdrama. Even when the new mods were chosen there was backlash.

I try and make the sub more active and it's been that by offering a flair for the most active participant but even this isn't well received its like sigh what more can I do.

[–]t0talnonsense 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

In regards to your /r/bleach comment.

Do you actively spend time there? I split my time pretty equally between both of them. The bleach sub is definitely less antagonistic than this one. I'm not really sure what you're talking about or saw, but it's a much more chill community than this one.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

I have actively lurked it and it hasn't been more chill.

[–]Jiscold 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

To be fair I have subbed to r/bleach and r/fairytail each within a few weeks of getting on Reddit. Aside from the last month with the announcement of Bleach ending next Thursday, that sub is much more chill.

The amount of drama here is a bit ridiculous. I don't blame you or any of the mods (I think you all do good) but the amount of drama posts have been rising. Not sure if people are trolling the community as a whole, but it has gotten out of hand. This is the third of these posts I can remember in the last few weeks.

Maybe you guys need to be more strict or start banning more. I don't know. I enjoy it but I can see everyone's side on this issue.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah I'm going to enforce rule 1 more now, the amount of these post is ridiculously high for no reason.

[–]t0talnonsense 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Quieting dissent is a really good way to make a perceived problem an actual problem.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well they could voice their opinion on the monthly mod post or even on the meta post that the mod team (mostly KenadianH) hosts i dont need to see 10 different threads about the same topic (in this case the topic being the subreddit)

[–]t0talnonsense 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

This post has ~230 comments on it in less than 24 hours. It's got an 85% approval rating through votes. I understand that you don't like them, and feel attacked because it's your sub. But if there wasn't something here, then posts like these wouldn't see nearly as much traction.

You don't feel like you need to see 10 different threads about it, but obviously other people do. So shuffling that dissent into a oft-ignored monthly post isn't really a solution to the correct problem.

You're trying to deal with the symptom, because you're convinced the body isn't sick. When, in fact, the body has a small, naturally occurring cold; but dismissing it could very well lead it to turn into a more serious illness.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

This post has ~230 comments on it in less than 24 hours. It's got an 85% approval rating through votes. I understand that you don't like them, and feel attacked because it's your sub.

Look at most of the comments though the only ones that seem to provide anything of value are the non comment to comments comment the rest really don't help change or improve the situation.

You don't feel like you need to see 10 different threads about it, but obviously other people do. So shuffling that dissent into a oft-ignored monthly post isn't really a solution to the correct problem.

Sure but there are other ways to get the point across and simply continuing repeating old threads isn't one of them.

You're trying to deal with the symptom, because you're convinced the body isn't sick. When, in fact, the body has a small, naturally occurring cold; but dismissing it could very well lead it to turn into a more serious illness.

uhm no, im trying to get the body better but it wont happen when more come and post the same content over and over again.

[–]t0talnonsense 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Look at most of the comments though the only ones that seem to provide anything of value are the non comment to comments comment the rest really don't help change or improve the situation.

I have. It's split a lot more 50/50 on people agreeing or disagreeing with OP, which is the main thing of value to pull from this thread. Not only has it been heavily upvoted, but the comments are about as likely to agree with OP to some extent as tell him to shove off. There's nothing here for how to change the situation, but at least it lets people air grievances and provides support to their stance that there is a problem. You may decide the problem is small enough to not matter, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a problem.

I mean, did you see the number of people that chirped up saying, "Yeah, I normally lurk, and this [hostility] is why?" Those types of comments are important.

simply continuing repeating old threads isn't one of them.

Welcome to management. People at least want the appearance that their voice is being heard. You don't have to do anything, but at least let people feel like you value their input. I'm telling you, silencing dissent only ever makes problems worse. I've seen it at jobs, I've seen it in extra-curricular organizations, I've seen at across a 10k person campus, and I've seen it on Reddit. The appearance of a voice is much more important than actually having one (though I believe it's important to have one as well).

but it wont happen when more come and post the same content over and over again.

No offense, but at this point, the sub is beyond you. Your job is to manage a mob, and keep it from eating itself alive. That's what happens when communities get this large. You're trying to impose your will on a mass of people instead of convincing the mass of people it was their idea in the first place. If this many people feel like this posts are still relevant and should be talked about, then they are.

[–]ChowderJF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, It's next to impossible for the entire subreddit to be happy at any given time, so as far as there is good content and general civilty between the users, there isn't too much to complain about IMO

[–]RetardedOnTuesdays[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I wasn't going to respond to this one since I replied to most of these, but your response is really bothering me.

I disagree look at the amount of media post, and shipping post since the meta thread week that actively posted their dislike for it. The subreddit changed and even had more users provide personal opinions on certain aspects of the series.

There are wayy more media posts than there are self posts. I've already told you this.

When you're comparing a series to one it is accused of copying in the fan base you can't expect the best of discussions to arise from it. Look at what we did for the one piece anniversary it got massacred and bashed by so many especially on the one piece subreddit.

The OP did NOT say FT was copying OP at all. He said that there were similarities, but his general point didn't say that there was any copying. And there's a difference between saying there are similarities and blatantly taking images from One Piece and using it as a banner.

I've been to that sub and no they aren't they have show worse qualities than this sub.

I don't know how many times you've been on /r/bleach, but they are definitely more accepting and kind than this subreddit. The mods are really, really dedicated, and I've hardly ever seen a troll that continuously ruins the experience for everyone else. I've also NEVER seen a post like the one I made today, so maybe that should tell you something.

You only had 1 theory and even in that theory you basically said it didn't mean anything just own personal thoughts. The rest were questions about certain things of the series.

I've had multiple theories on this subreddit, and the one you mentioned was a very recent one. Also, some of those questions had theories within them, so I'm not sure whether you're reading them correctly or not.

You should have let the mods know because even if it is via pm it still a matter that was a result of a discussion on the subreddit.

What difference does it make if you know about it now? I doubt there will still be any action taken.

hell I won't even remove the post I'll leave it up because I've come to realize that no matter what I do it there will be criticism and backlash so I would rather just let it play out.

This post isn't breaking any rules anyway, so I don't see how there would be any grounds for removal. I'm literally doing what everyone else has done for the longest time: state my own opinion. In what way is that so bad that the post needs to be removed?

You are trying so hard to sound like a victim when you really aren't, you are just a user who's views on the moderating team has been negative ever since you were removed from the Skype chat for actively provoking users.

You do realize that the majority of your last paragraph in this post was literally you complaining that you do all this and you still get hate, right? If anything, you've complained more than I have in my own post, yet you're still saying I'm calling myself a victim.

Also, I wasn't actively trying to provoke users. The only reason I was kicked was because I jokingly said that I wanted a 7v1 discussion with the users in the chat going against me, then later saying that the Tenrou Island arc was boring and overrated. Even when I said I was saying my own opinion, you and everyone else didn't believe it and kicked me anyway. I literally got one warning before I was kicked, and it wasn't even by you.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

This post isn't breaking any rules anyway, so I don't see how there would be any grounds for removal.

Rule 1

There are wayy more media posts than there are self posts. I've already told you this.

Compared to before there isn't as many.

I don't know how many times you've been on /r/bleach, but they are definitely more accepting and kind than this subreddit. The mods are really, really dedicated, and I've hardly ever seen a troll that continuously ruins the experience for everyone else. I've also NEVER seen a post like the one I made today, so maybe that should tell you something.

I mean you don't have to post here if you really feel that way. Implying the mod team here isn't really dedicated is the most ridiculous thing you could say.

You do realize that the majority of your last paragraph in this post was literally you complaining that you do all this and you still get hate, right? If anything, you've complained more than I have in my own post, yet you're still saying I'm calling myself a victim.

Well you told us to express our opinions on the subreddit so I expressed them of all you got is that I get constant hate then you got that only.

Also, I wasn't actively trying to provoke users. The only reason I was kicked was because I jokingly said that I wanted a 7v1 discussion with the users in the chat going against me, then later saying that the Tenrou Island arc was boring and overrated. Even when I said I was saying my own opinion, you and everyone else didn't believe it and kicked me anyway. I literally got one warning before I was kicked, and it wasn't even by you.

I didn't kick you, and you gave no justification for your opinion when you said Tenrou was shit, you simply said look up top it's there when there was nothing there.

[–]RetardedOnTuesdays[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rule 1

I've seen plenty of threads that haven't gotten the same treatment.

Compared to before there isn't as many.

Sure, that's a good thing, but having more media posts still isn't the best thing in the world.

I mean you don't have to post here if you really feel that way. Implying the mod team here isn't really dedicated is the most ridiculous thing you could say.

Nowhere did I imply that the mod team here isn't dedicated. The mods in this subreddit are dedicated, but I just feel as though they're handling things the wrong way.

Well you told us to express our opinions on the subreddit so I expressed them of all you got is that I get constant hate then you got that only.

My point was that you were being hypocritical when you were doing the exact same thing in your post.

I didn't kick you, and you gave no justification for your opinion when you said Tenrou was shit, you simply said look up top it's there when there was nothing there.

Yes, I said you didn't kick me in that last sentence. I did give my justification. I said Tenrou was boring and overrated as to why I thought it was a shitty arc. I said look up because you and other users were literally asking me to repeat the same things over and over, and I was tired of having to constantly repeat things, especially since I was on mobile at the time.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've seen plenty of threads that haven't gotten the same treatment.

And most were removed, and will continue to be removed.

Nowhere did I imply that the mod team here isn't dedicated. The mods in this subreddit are dedicated, but I just feel as though they're handling things the wrong way.

You basically implied when you said the mods of bleach are really dedicated.

[–]RetardedOnTuesdays[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't imply it. I just said that the mods were really dedicated there. Never have I said that the mods aren't dedicated. If you won't even accept that I'm telling you directly, then there's no point in continuing.

[–]Trender07 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Holy shit the Laxus troll

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Here this is from today:

[–]Trender07 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

So this is the dark side we don't see, how awful that guy can be.

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

just from a few minutes ago

[–]Trender07 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thats the problem of anonimity in reddit I guess

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I honestly try my best for this subreddit, i really do. It seems that will never be enough.

[–]Trender07 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly try my best for this subreddit, i really do.

I think the vast majority of the sub knows, but this is the internet and there will be always haters and trolls so don't let those 0.1% tarnish your efforts because we appreciate it and just ignore/ban them because they doesn't deserve the time and worries

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

like i said there's tons of pm, user threads, and even comments but hey who cares sigh

[–]Trender07 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

ugh yeah I remember those awful pm's... btw did you changed natsu and lucy upthere because this post?

[–]AstonishingSpiderMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

i changed before this post i liked the logo as part of the banner more than the original snoos