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Trump on Muslim at DNC: I'd like to 'hear his wife say something' (washingtonexaminer.com)

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[–]FoolishGuacBowlUK 746ポイント747ポイント  (75子コメント)

their son, a Marine who died in Iraq back in 2004.

He was killed by Muslims, in a Muslim country, in a war that Donald Trump opposed. Yet here they are blaming Donald Trump for it... scumbags.

[–]MAGAMADMAN 274ポイント275ポイント  (1子コメント)

...and supporting the woman who by her endorsement of that war helped send their son to his death.

[–]trumppleUSA 113ポイント114ポイント  (21子コメント)

I'm sure there are KKK members in the army, doesn't mean the KKK is suddenly immune from criticism.

Edit: Also, Trump is not doing anything to citizens. He just wants to control immigration.

[–]TrumpingbitchesWA 91ポイント92ポイント  (13子コメント)

It isn't even fair to compare Islam to the KKK... The KKK haven't killed anyone in like decades. Yet I am sure somebody right now is getting their head sawed off by a Muslim.

Islam is much worse.

[–]BlueeyesblondehairVA 50ポイント51ポイント  (7子コメント)

Not to make light of them, but the KKK also maxed out at I think a few hundred thousand members. Islam has more than a billion.

[–]CowboyNinjaAstronaut 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

To be fair, Muslims have better hats.

[–]ristorilsm 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

WELL GODAMNIT YOU FILTHY INGRATES MY WIFE SPENT ALL THIS TIME CUTTING OUT HOLES FOR YOU INGRATFUL SONSABITCHES

[–]zZGzGA 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I CAN'T SEE FUCKIN' SHIT OUTTA THIS THING.

[–]HarambeTheBear 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think, we all think the bags was a nice idea. But not pointing any fingers, they could've been done better.

[–]SnapHook 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We fuck all ya'll I'm going home. You know I watched my wife today prepare 30 bags for you ungrateful sum bitches and all I hear is criticize criticize criticize.

[–]concededline 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk tall and pointy ghost hats make them look hilarious. (Even though they certainly are not). Look at movies like Django unchained for example, they make the KKK really dumb and in my opinion the scene they're in is the funniest part of the movie.

[–]AdVictoremSpoliasFL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

FREE HAT! FREE HAT!

[–]NastyWayzUSMC 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seriously, it's such a fuckin stupid comparison. They are not the same AT ALL. Islam is one of the biggest religions in the world and its slowly starting to rape, kill, and outbreed everyone in Europe now due to Merkel and the EU's truly evil and hateful immigration policies.

[–]aDAMNPATRIOTUSMC 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

slowly

Pretty fucking quick homie

[–]purpledinosaur0PA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think in our lifetime we will see the peak Muslim birthdate and they will slowly recede back into their sand castles in the Middle East.

[–]chipotlemcnuggies -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, it is not. The KKK was evil and we stomped them out. We haven't stomped out Islam yet.

[–]JohnQAnonTX 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not completely. There are like 2 thousand or something. Just a bunch of really old people who refuse to die out

[–]ChewyIsMyC0Pil0t 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

The KKK is such a small, irrelevant organization nowadays, the only people who even talk about them are the race baiting media.

[–]SpaceDuckTechCA 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Westboro baptist church seem like a bigger threat than the KKK.

[–]DrDankMemesSJUSA 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Watch out, they might stand around and be obnoxious.

[–]JaewokOH -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

literally worse than massacres in the name of Islam according to libtards

[–]DrDankMemesSJUSA -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if the "moderate Islam" meme were true, that's why the "b-but ISIS is to Islam as the WBC is to Christianity!!!" meme is transparent bullshit.

WBC hurts your feelings.

ISIS cuts your head off.

[–]KeepDallasTrillTX -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Born in America, Texan by the grace of God..... And on that note

I wish, we as a state, would put those Westboro Sumbitches' afloat in the fuckin' Gulf. They fuck the South up for everyone.

[–]horoblastBEL -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bro did you just try to use logic?

[–]MeannMuggUSMC 44ポイント45ポイント  (23子コメント)

I commented on the thread about this on the Hillary Clinton subreddit. I left a reasonable explanation as to why I wasn't on the Khizr Khan hype train, and it was immediately removed.

I don't think my post was offensive or extreme, I just had a disagreement, and left room for a discussion. I'll let you guys judge:

As a veteran, this is the kind of thing that just gets real deep under my skin, and puts a bad taste in my mouth.

What does him being the parent of a slain soldier add to the conversation? Is that supposed to make me think his opinion on politics holds more weight than anyone else? Why?

This along with another speech were the low points of the convention for me. The woman whose name I can't remember, her husband died in Iraq and she was bashing Trump because she used the money from her SGLI benefits on Trump University....

Reaching for reasons to bring up deaths of veterans for votes. Absolutely disgusting.

I'm generally very left leaning when it comes to politics, I already know I'm not going to vote for Trump, but this sort of thing doesn't re-affirm that feeling, it just makes me hold the DNC in a much lower regard for stooping to this level.

Needless to say; after the DNC, my previous decision to not to vote for Trump isn't nearly as concrete

Edit: After seeing the picture painted about you guys from /r/the_donald all over Reddit, I'm pleasantly surprised that every conversation I've had with people here so far has been filled with actual discussion and mutual understanding, even when we disagree. You guys are pretty fucking cool. Good luck on your journey to Make America Great Again!

[–]Gabrielle_of_York 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What does him being the parent of a slain soldier add to the conversation? Is that supposed to make me think his opinion on politics holds more weight than anyone else? Why?"

Republicans, and a matter of fact many Americans have this logic. Don't agree with it but let's face it, our side is just of guilty on this.

[–]tholinzTX 9ポイント10ポイント  (14子コメント)

Why don't you want to vote for Trump? Especially considering the other option is Hillary, a woman who severely violated OPSEC guidelines as well as federal law with that illegal server of hers.

[–]MeannMuggUSMC 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

I don't plan on voting for Hillary either. I don't really care for either candidate, and I'm from California which isn't even close to being a swing state, so since my vote won't really change anything, I'd at least like it to put a '%' symbol next to some 3rd party candidates name who aligns closer to my beliefs.

But if I had to choose between the major party candidates, I would go with Trump by a very large margin over Hillary or Bernie.

[–]tholinzTX 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seems self-defeating, but if you really don't think it'll count, I guess that's fair

[–]illicitandcomlicit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look at it this way...he might have voted for Hillary, but now he definitely won't. Seems good enough to me.

[–]SomeoneOnThelnternetCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump/Cyborg Ron Paul 2020

[–]CoporealKrackenUSMC 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Let's be real here, dude. Any number of votes to a third party will only serve to take the election to Congress, and we all know they'll vote to save their skins by voting hillary. Trump isn't the best candidate, not by a longshot, but he's a helluva lot better than what we've seen in decades, and he's the best chance for our country to survive.

[–]tholinzTX 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Apparently some people don't understand that a few votes in a state can swing the whole thing.

[–]CoporealKrackenUSMC 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's a caliboy and a marine, I'm not expecting much in the way of understanding...

[–]krbexTX 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

California will never be a swing state with that kind of mind set. The reason liberalism is so profound in places like LA, is because no one speaks up against it. Voting third party is either refusing to form an opinion, or refusing to put forth an effort.

[–]MeannMuggUSMC 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just don't align with either party. I'm going to vote for the candidate I believe would make the best president, even if he has a 0.001% chance of winning.

Just as you said about 'California will never be a swing state with that kind of mind set.', I believe a 3rd party will never be viable as long as people have the mindset that they need to align with a major party candidate.

[–]TrumpgonnagiveittoyaNY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

May I ask why yoy don't align with either party?

[–]BlueeyesblondehairVA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

As well as let Americans die in Benghazi without lifting a finger, and has been part of the scheme that created ISIS, who our military may very well need to go in and exterminate.

[–]InfinitePossibility8MN 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

You saw the DNC, opposing views must be silenced and fall in line.

[–]MeannMuggUSMC 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

What a shitshow the whole thing was. Literally burst out laughing when Hillary said 'The Democratic System isn't Working' and 'We need to get money out of politics'.

I'll be honest, and it's probably an unpopular opinion here, but Obama's speech was really good. Tons of energy and emotion, the guy's a really great public speaker...

..

Until you remember he's talking about Hillary fucking Clinton.

[–]InfinitePossibility8MN 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you're not wrong he is a good orator, he brings a lot of energy.

[–]IgnatiusCorba 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, he is an excellent speaker, which is how he managed to trick me the first time. Never falling for someone just because they can sound inspiring ever again.

[–]bf4truthUSA 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

until you remember how he speaks without a teleprompter ;)

[–]Xom810NJ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well written. The fact that you weren't banned from the sub speaks to the fact that they must have had some awareness how deeply in the wrong they were deleting your post.

[–]A_Wild_Blue_CardUSA 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

The only way Trump is responsible for this is calling for a halt on Islamic immigration till the refugee crisis is handled.

The only tangentially, hyperbolic way this is related is if there a permanent ban on Muslims entering- going back into the past.

Interestingly, such a ban would have stopped Mohammed Atta, and the other hijackers who were behind 9/11. Making it a net positive.

EDIT: It would also have stopped Omar Mateen's birth in the United States. You know, the Orlando barbarian.

[–]ODBCRI 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

The ban is brilliant.

Now that ISIS is losing its territory, tens of thousands of foreign fighters are returning to cause terrorism in their home countries, including every Western country. Canuckistan's Trudeau has already stated he wants to let them in. The EU is fucked because of their open borders, and Britain is still under threat because it hasn't fully left yet.

Open borders = anarchy

[–]johnthejamesonUSA 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trudeau has already stated he wants to let them in

Aw fuck. Looks like we're gonna need a North wall, too.

[–]ODBCRI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

source

I would volunteer for the Night's Watch. iirc The American-Canadian border is one of the oldest non-militarized borders in history, and liberal policies are changing history for the worse.

Dearborn, MI isn't all that far from the border.

[–]chair_lunch_dinner 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

“If it was up to Donald Trump, he never would have been in America." A direct quote from his speech. I wonder if he realizes that by banning his son from entering the country he wouldn't have been in the Army and would still be alive today.

[–]caprigalMAGA 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"but mah narrative"

— /u/Trash_Sells

[–]KountKeto 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well...to be fair, that is the lefts way of thinking. Every single argument they make is projection.

[–]BlueeyesblondehairVA 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look at everything Hillary says about Trump. Every one of her attacks is applicable to her. It's the Saul Alinsky playbook. Accuse your opponent of having every flaw that you have in order to deflect attention from yourself.

[–]allegorically_hitlerVA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that comes from Marx, the hero of the left. The reason that morons fall for it, is because of our cultural heritage. The christian background that says that you should preach the hidden truths for all to hear. We, as a culture, are trusting, and Marxist/Alinsky rhetoric is basically poison to it, looking to abuse the weaknesses and destroy that culture.

[–]darcechoes 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

But MUH Howard Stern interview from 2001!!!??!!1!

[–]somarainAL -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, what about it?

[–]darcechoes 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Trump was asked whether he wanted to invade Iraq. He wasn't a politician at the time, and he said "I guess so." Basically, he wasn't sure and he was answering a question he didn't really think about a lot since he was not a politician. But he quickly came out against it after (I assume) he gave more thought about it and thought about it logically. Mind you, the interview was not far from 9/11 itself, and at that time many wanted action on part of the government.

SJWs try and use it as a "flip flop" argument, as if no one is allowed to research and change their minds...

[–]DrDankMemesSJUSA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, so that's what people are talking about when they say Trump wasn't actually against the war? That's stupid.

[–]are_you_sure_NY 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

1) I lived through it all

2) At the time Bush/Cheney/Fox/Cnn all made the war a Uber Super Bowl, anyone against it was seen as "unwilling to defend the Nation after the largest terrorist attack on our soil in the history of our country"

3) Mr Trump at the time was the ONLY voice in a sea of cheerleaders that was against the war other than dirty hippies blocking traffic covered in red paint. or lined up like coffins to close down major roads.

4) Shit, even after the war was well underway and shown to be a cluster fuck, when the Dixie Chicks said they disagreed with Bush and the war they got death threats, the top of the billboard stars for country music, and even they were pariahs after that. People made it a thing to crush their records in outdoor protests.

5) I watched Mr Trump talk against the war in his limo, and on other call in interviews, Larry King to name a few. Then by the time he got on Stern, he wsa getting a backlash so I think he was pulling the language back a little to avoid a huge fall-out.

6) THe facts remain as history is 20/20, it was a huge mistake to go into Iraq and was mostly led by Dick Cheney and his gang to enrich Halliburton, KBR, Carlyle Group and United Defense to name a few.

7) Given the Saudi outright corruption and Wahhabism garbage coming out of SA, ISIS is funded by our "allies" and there is good reason to believe both Bush/Cheney and Hillary/Bill crossed paths in arming and enabling them as neither will go against the Saudis. Both families are all connected to MIC and the House of Saud dominance. ISIS is the gift that keeps on giving if you are the NSA, FBI, MIC, Globalists, TPP, etc..

They used it against Obama to great affect and will cause even more $$ to flow in their direction. It can truly be molded to support any change in the direction of globalization. Remove borders, sign trade agreements and use the fear of ISIS to pass draconian legislation to take away the remaining rights and create police state/global dominance.

I LOVE DONALD J. TRUMP. MAGA

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[–]UpVoter3145CAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!

[–]novazee -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Muslim father wasn't blaming the Donald for his son's death. The Muslim father was calling out on the Donald for his bigoted and misguided statements about American Muslims.

His son proudly enlisted in the United States military to serve this country when he didn't even have to. To fight in a foreign country to defends this country. He joined this country with that in mind. Now, the father is criticizing the Donald for his divisive word about Muslims in America.

Your respond was childish and complete missed the point. "Oh he's just mad because his son died, he died in a Muslim country fighting the Muslims and he was killed by Muslims". This kind of view on Muslim Americans as monolithic and having a single mindset is dangerous. Because you equate the action of one with a whole group of people. You made that comment because you saw this grieving father as Muslim, something that ought to be separated from American identity, rather than your fellow American.

He was a patriotic American soldier, who died fighting Muslims extremist terrorists in Muslim country. He's our own. This Muslims family came to this country legally, served this country proudly, defended the constitution. Khizr Khan and his fathers are more American that I could ever hope to be.

[–]StraightTalkExpressCAN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's cool and everything, but I don't really understand the Muslim's father's point either.

"My son died fighting muslim extremists" doesn't strike me as an effective argument against the sort of "extreme vetting" that Trump is talking about instituting before allowing immigrants from muslim majority countries into the USA.

It's just kind of an appeal to people's emotions.

[–]FoolishGuacBowlUK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

his bigoted and misguided statements about American Muslims.

He hasn't made any statements about American Muslims. If you actually listened to what he said he was talking about halting non-American Muslims entering the country.

[–]MmmTastyCakesCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been saying this since that day. Is that, I feel honestly sorry for that muslim family, because it was Hillary who was like, OH HELL YEAH LETS GO AFTER THEM OILS!

While Trump was saying, no, fuck the oil, we'll screw the middle east.