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I guess this is why we want Pogba so much.

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[–]eastxn95Viva Martial 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks like Bailly reads the game terrifically well, some good interceptions.

[–]ArmchairAnal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is a really good surprise! Hope he goes on like this! Kinda see why Mou got him on the team!

[–]RyanSorsbyFalcao 64ポイント65ポイント  (21子コメント)

We look so unfit, especially Rooney.

[–]bapeimpalaDe Gea 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

People have given him a pass for so long. The man gets paid too much for how little he contributes; Fergie was right to try and move him on. Let's be real people, he's only relying on his marketability and his legacy.

[–]w1h2 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its understandable though, its his first pre-season game. Losing the game in China hasn't helped the other players either.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Rooney has argurably been the worst player on the pitch, I've defended him for the past 2 years and it does pain me to say it, but he just isn't sharp, I think you can put a lot of this down to not being fit, Ibra and Bailly have looked great though.

[–]RogerFedererFTWValdes(and Falcao) 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, He hasn't lost only pace, it's his reaction time, his instinctive passing, his vision, his dribbling in tight spaced and his interceptions, everything has affected. I am not saying this only from this irrelevant half, but also the latter stages of the season(and euros)

[–]sepehrackMartial Madness 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're really rusty

[–]imamfmonster 29ポイント30ポイント  (9子コメント)

Am I allowed to criticise Rooney?

Actually, it's been pretty shitty all round. Tbh it's only pre season so I don't really care too much. Bring rashford on thooooooo

[–]Lingard 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Rooney ended the half perfectly summarizing his performance, giving the ball away.

All the way to Sweden for that.

[–]YoungJumpWazza -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Our performance really, no one played well yet I'm only seeing Rooney being shat on around here

[–]4lienAnd Solskjær has won it! 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Better get used to it, he'll be our scapegoat all season...

[–]TudoorsScholes -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's a little cringeworthy tbh. Almost as bad as the MUTV announcers. This whole team has underperformed, especially our midfield two. Martial isn't tracking back well enough as well imo.

Rooney is being scapegoated for this performance within 45 minutes of his first preseason appearance.

[–]fakeplasticairbag 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Rooney is being scapegoated for this performance within 45 minutes of his first preseason appearance.

Well no, it's because he's been like this for two years now.

No one would care if it was a one off.

Because of course Rooney fanboys like you use this shit after every bad game, even if it's his 10th shit game in a row.

[–]TudoorsScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Christ, you need to hop off. I'm not going to sit here defending him after his 10th shit game in a row, I was a proponent of Van Gaal dropping him at the beginning of last season.

It's preseason, everyone on our team is shit, not just Rooney, however he's the only one being shit on here. That's what I find absolutely amusing.

[–]fakeplasticairbag -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

however he's the only one being shit on here

Because he's been like this for two seasons, is our captain and still plays every week no matter how bad he is. When Herrera plays crap he gets dropped.

People are fucking sick of seeing it and rightly so.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because he's been like this for two seasons, is our captain and still plays every week no matter how bad he is. When Herrera plays crap he gets dropped.

Yea, that's your opinion. Don't get the fuck down my throat for having a different one. Grow the fuck up.

[–]YoungJumpWazza 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And you're still here no matter how many times they ban you. Guess you've got something in common with Rooney

[–]PepitooooNistelrooy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having flashbacks

[–]Willszz1De Gea 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a bit worried our preparation is poor for the coming season. We look very unfit and there's only 2 weeks left.

[–]Erique 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rooney didn't have a good game so far

[–]TudoorsScholes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who did? Not many. Schneiderlin's getting outran. Bailly is off the pace. Mkhitaryan is disappointing. The whole team looks out of it.

[–]icallbullshitsFerdinand 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Micky has been quite shite also.

[–]MadaraTheUchihahttp://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did Martial get fat or is that just me?

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

My father mentioned the same as well.

[–]TITANKing12000 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Daily Mail: Martial gaining weight to protest number change! Could this see the end of his reign at United Source(omegaxLoL's father)

[–]IcegazeGGMU 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He looks more muscular to me.

[–]WaaaltyIbrahimovic 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

Guys there's a difference between

"Rooney has looked poor so far"

and

"Rooney is FUCKIGN DOG SHIT, SELL HIM"

Please, Rooney has always been poor in pre-season and it's his first game back. Let's see how he plays in his testimonial, community shield.

[–]alee1994 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Please can we stop making excuses for him now. He played well for us but its been a couple of seasons now where he's not done good. SAF saw it early.

[–]WaaaltyIbrahimovic 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Excuses? It's his first 45 minutes in a month. Can we stop slating Rooney for being Rooney and see how he plays in future matches.

[–]alee1994 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hes been doing this for 3 yrs now, not just these 45 mins.

[–]Nudemales1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'll be shit till near Christmas, maybe find some form then. Christmas rolls round he'll eat a shit ton and be unfit till around March.

He's dragging this team down, it's like playing with 10 men.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not been just pre-season for the last years. He hasn't been great for the last 2 seasons, other than the first months of 2016 before his injury. He's clearly in decline and I don't get why some people refuse to accept it. Sick of seeing this excuse pop up every pre-season and then have it carry on to the start of the season.

[–]fakeplasticairbag -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney has always been poor in pre-season and it's his first game back

What's your excuse for the last two seasons?

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pretty lacklustre all round

[–]Launch_a_poo 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wow, Rooney under so much pressure on here (understandably). He's just back from holiday and the purpose of these games are to improve match sharpness. I'll wait until a little after the first 45 minutes of his first preseason game before making definitive judgements.

But he does need to get a lot better in the second half

[–]Shaggydog__One Darren Fletcher. 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera has given the ball away stupidly multiple times as well, but I don't see that mentioned once on the match thread.

[–]MrD3athGiggsy -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

He was shit for England as well. Cannot put this on match sharpness

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think in the eyes of most people Rooney played very well for England and was one of the best on the pitch for the first few games, but tonight hes playing like he did against Iceland, funnily enough both are the only games hes been under real pressure, however tonight he at least has the fitness excuse.

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    [–]googly__mooglySmalling 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    As was the whole team, no?

    [–]FootballRobb 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Im Too used to LvGs fucking possession football...

    [–]Lingard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    two fullback subs please.

    [–]virtua13Van Der Sar 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney looks out of it

    [–]RatedThrowaway37Ronaldo 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Only his first 45 minutes this season but Rooney looks quite off the pace

    [–]ggghhhhgggg -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    The first part of your comment should explain why he is off the pace.

    [–]RatedThrowaway37Ronaldo 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Well it only took Ibra 3 minutes

    [–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    And what has he done since?

    [–]RatedThrowaway37Ronaldo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Couple of nice turns, dropped to help force the ball forward a couple of times. I'm not bashing Rooney, he's started the second half so hopefully he builds on it.

    [–]RatedThrowaway37Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There he is

    [–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's killing it now. Fucking absurd kneejerk reactions by this sub

    [–]fakeplasticairbag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And what explains the other 80 or so games he's played in the last two years?

    [–]epicboarMata 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I know its just pre-season but I am still furious.

    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nobody bar Ibra seems fit to be honest. And he was training his entire time off. Bailly too.

    [–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Midfield and defense have been shit. Ibra's done alright considering the midfield and particularly the 3 behind him have created nothing. Rooney's been the worst of the 3 for me, absolutely piss poor with the ball today.

    [–]Takley 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Miki and Herrera have been as shit as Rooney but wont get remotely the same amount of comments as him

    [–]alee1994 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because Rooney is the captain. Highest paid player in the team. Rooneys performances have been dropped for 3 yrs now.

    [–]MrD3athGiggsy 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Rooney has been by far the worst though.

    And holy shit Herrera! What does he add to the team? 9/10 times he'll pass it backwards.

    [–]Takley -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Rooney has been by far the worst though.

    No he hasnt, many of them have been as bad as eachother, people just pick every single touch Rooney ever does but dont do it for anybody else

    [–]MrD3athGiggsy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Were we watching the same game? Rooney had to rely on toe poking the ball away and hoping it'd reach a teammate, even under almost no pressure. Herrera was at least in control of the ball. Mhki was invisible so it's not exactly the same

    [–]Takley -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Herrera was at least in control of the ball

    So in control of the ball he let a guy walk past him and score?

    [–]RogerFedererFTWValdes(and Falcao) 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hodgson in the stands taking notes during Rooney's corners

    [–]LonnieMachinSmalling 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I mean this is pre season and we are already putting Rooney in magnifying glass.

    [–]WHiTeCHIICK -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good, he's been shit for 2 years now

    [–]McGrifty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Imagine if we didn't score that goal? Nothing too exciting, nothing ridiculously bad either

    [–]summerincassiopeiaSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    We need to do more things.

    [–]deanjokerHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney is shit. He slows the game tempo and his mispassing..it really frustrating to watch him playing.

    [–]MrD3athGiggsy 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Herrera and Rooney cannot start

    [–]snowman131313Smalling 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Neither of them can reliably hit a simple pass. It's really quite impressive how many times they can just give the ball away

    [–]YoungJumpWazza -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's a pre-season game and it's Rooney's first, cmon. Like what the fuck did Mkhi do so far?

    [–]alee1994 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Rooney is doing this same thing for 3 yrs now. Stop making excuses for him.

    [–]snowman131313Smalling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly. It's not a preseason thing for these two. This is how they've been playing for a long while now. They carelessly give the ball away and it just absolutely kills us.

    [–]selotipkusutMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Midfield is madness, cant feed passes to front 3 properly.

    Close to full fitness: 1. Bailly 2. DdG 3. Tony V 4. Zlatan

    [–]WHiTeCHIICK 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Rooney continues his 2 year long shit spell

    [–]Stalin_Fergie_Mao 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    good thing we have a manager who won't tolerate mediocrity going into the season

    [–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You think Mou's gonna keep him out the team?

    [–]Takley -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Wasnt shit the season before last at all, but dont let that stop you from pandering for upvotes from the anti-rooney brigade

    [–]fakeplasticairbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Wasnt shit the season before last at all

    He wasn't shit but he was poor and well short of the required standard.

    [–]Takley -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    but he was poor

    No he wasnt.

    [–]fakeplasticairbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So you think he was good enough for a title winning side?

    [–]WHiTeCHIICK -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't care about up votes, Rooney has been shite for way too long now. Truth hurts I get it

    [–]FizzypoptartsRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney has been pretty bad. Feel Herrera has been worse. He lost his man badly for the 2nd goal. Not a good performance overall but its they're only building fitness so nothing too alarming

    [–]ritwikjsSmalling 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    good lord am i angry. We look like we just don't care. getting dispossessed far more than we should, and fouling to try and get possession back. Blind's probably been the best player

    [–]RatedThrowaway37Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Only pre season dude. A lot of these guys' first game back from the summer

    [–]alee1994 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Season starts next week. Its not only pre season now.

    [–]ritwikjsSmalling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    exactly. I understand that players would be a bit rusty given the european competitions and the extended rest period, but we have to hit the ground running, and performances like this, albeit just for one half are worrying. I just hope the players click together with time, because they all look like they're playing different games

    [–]MuntingIsOverratedKeane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney has been very poor

    [–]kaoticreapzSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bailly looks pretty decent. Valencia, Rooney, Miki, and Herrera look rusty.

    [–]alee1994 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney is shit.

    [–]gladiator91De Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    slow

    [–]stebinalexCR7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Definitely need to work on the Set pieces, Our passing needs to be a bit more sharper at the final third.

    [–]legojs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ball gets intercepted or taken away too often. We don't seem to pressure as gala players do

    [–]the_trainmanRobson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nothing to be too worried about. New players, we lack match fitness, new manager/new tactics... It takes time....

    That being said, and I never thought I'll say this, but we should be keeping possession much better

    [–]is-an-antWayne mother fuckin Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I hope this is just match fitness problem with rooney :(

    [–]dank-diggler 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I can definitely see fellaini coming on now, noway he would let them walk through him

    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Agreed, nobody has looked angry and we need that with the exception of Zlatan once or twice, Get Fellaini on, he'll inject some fight in the side.

    [–]MadaraTheUchihahttp://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As always Rooney off form in pre-season

    [–]nightwolf018 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Schneiderlin only bright spot so far. Front 4 not in sync right now and we're still shit at defending set pieces .

    [–]manchesterunitedgoal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I just hope United don't play boring football.

    [–]armagheadon95 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is why we have preseason games, yeah we look rusty but at least it's now and not the start of the season

    [–]Unalaq 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No pressing in midfield, Selcuk and Sneijder have had loads of time and space

    [–]twenty2catch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney hasn't impressed too much this half, but hopefully it's just a bit of rust and that'll sort itself out in the next couple of weeks. I'd like to see Rashford and Darmian given a go in the 2nd half.

    [–]bigfearDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We look soft

    [–]yayayayakolokolo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A team in transition - I'm still confident that with a few more weeks things will improve, fitness and otherwise

    [–]IVIanUnited 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    i see too much of lvg tactics still in those players.. hope jose gets rid of all that...... jesus

    [–]Shifter99Carrick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great finish

    [–]PM-ME-YOUR-POEM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney worst player on the pitch /s...

    [–]ohhh_maaanDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney, where chances go to die. Honestly, if Rooney were a player for a different club, and he was linked to Man Utd for a transfer, I guarantee you people would unanimously say no thanks. He is not good enough for Utd.

    Sure, its his first game, but same goes for a couple other players. And don't say " he usually takes a while to get going". We said that for most of the first half of last season. If it takes 6months to get going, then it is not worth it.

    [–]thesmokethatthundersBeckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Look very un sharp. Except for maybe mikhi. Everyone is very sluggish. Not much press. Dunno if this is the game plan to test our defensive shape, hasn't looked very successful so far.

    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Miki strikes me as having continuously tried to get things going but I don't think anyone around him has the fitness to actually execute anything he has tried.

    [–]GGMU1992Jose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    We need to buy Chris Smalling. Oh we already have him. Honestly this match is screaming for another good CB.

    [–]MynomeMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    For who? Both Bailly and Blind have been playing fine

    [–]GGMU1992Jose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I guess individually they've been okay by we need to mesh together as a unit

    [–]3anda 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Sir Alex said in his book Rooney always needs a lot of time to get back in shape after a break.

    [–]WHiTeCHIICK 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He's been getting match "fit" for 2 years now. You're in denial

    [–]3anda 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I definitely think he's past his prime but he still has a lot to offer. I thought he ended last season in a good form

    [–]ChickenAllDayEvryDayBlind 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    which book was this? I read Leading while on holiday and it was great!

    [–]WszystkoZajete20 times, 20 times Man United! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rooney's not match fit. Honestly, I'm not sure where the fuck his head is because it surely ain't on the pitch.

    [–]IVIanUnited -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ROONEY IS ASSHOLE

    [–]IVIanUnited -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    MIDFIELD IS UNREAL.. AND VALENCIA CANNOT PLAY RB PLEASE....

    [–]jazzkillick -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is it just me or does it seem like shaw might hinder martial a bit this year. Im all for overlapping fullbacks but shaw pushing forward is pushing martial further back

    [–]DigitallyJP 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Shaw hasn't played a full 90 for the first team in a year. They will find each other's rhythm and come around to being a duo we will love seeing for years to come

    [–]Lingard -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Not much has changed since last season.

    [–]MoosjeMartial 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Wow, you guys are too much.

    [–]Lingard -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What?

    [–]MoosjeMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You're unnecessarily overreacting. This games about getting match fitness, it's not the CL final.

    [–]Lingard -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Still would be nice to win these games, for morale and all that.

    [–]IVIanUnited -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    herrera is average