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[–]PhilJonesOnCorners 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

De Gea | Darmian Smalling Bailly/Blind Shaw | Schneiderlin | Herrera Pogba | Mkhitarayan Zlatan Martial

[–]Savage9645Rooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't see a scenario where Herrera consistently starts over Rooney. He'll certainly get plenty of minutes but he'll be a rotation player this season barring injury.

[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

This. I've been seeing this one a lot when line ups are discussed in here. Just one thing : why Herrera over Rooney?

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Jose said he won't play Rooney as a CM. Plus Herrera is a better CM than Rooney.

[–]saynizz 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Jose will 3000000% play rooney in the number 10 role. I'm not even sure why this is up for debate. Mou said he's not going to play him as a centre midfielder because that's not his position i.e. he will be played at number 10 which is his position. I don't understand why people are so convinced rooney's not going to be in the starting 11, he's the team captain ffs

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/PhilJonesOnCorners is giving their preferred lineup, not their predicted lineup. And besides, even if Rooney is a number 10, even if he's the team captain, Pogba is better than him and I'll rather play to Pogba's strengths by using a 4-3-3 than try to accommodate Rooney and play 4-2-3-1.

[–]saynizz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

everyone's acting as if Pogba's some completely inflexible midfielder who is incapable of playing in a midfield 2, which I think is nonsense. He could still be given a free, creative role next to Carrick or Schneiderlin. Look at Fabregas for Chelsea, his creative freedom was never hampered.

As for Herrera being a better player than Rooney that's very debatable. Herrera's definitely easier on the eye but Rooney's finishing is much better and I'd guess he makes way more key passes. Everyone's so quick to shit on Rooney here. He's not world class right now but he's a very capable player who relies massively on confidence. Hopefully he can find that confidence in a better team under a better man manager.

[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I see..but that leaves Rooney stranded. Rashford for Zlatan, and the #10 place is pretty stacked already. :/

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well if we're being brutally honest here, Rooney would most likely be sold if it weren't for him being captain and having such a big influence over the dressing room. The only thing that Rooney really offers that can't be replicated by another is leadership, and even that is debatable.

[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed with most of what you said, though I'm still unsure on the leadership thing. You could see that despite all the criticism he faced last year, he came back with a bang in 2016 and literally carried us to the FA cup final. I guess I'd be really sad to see him phased out, tbh. But then again, there are some things you can't change...

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

literally carried us to the FA cup final

Yeah, nah Fellaini and Martial did that. I won't lie though, Rooney played a big role in Mata equalising in the final and he did start 2016 off with a bang. However, he still faded off after that. We're yet to see whether his 2016 start was an anomaly or he really did find his form again.

[–]dertigoFußballgott 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a better player. He's more mobile, once he gets the ball he always looks to attack, a better passer. Also he's actually a midfielder whereas Rooney is only one because that's all he can play at this point in his career

[–]Launch_a_poo 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

           Ibra
 Martial  Rooney  Mkhitaryan
     Pogba  Schneiderlin
Shaw Bailly Smalling Valencia
          De Gea

[–]jeffreyclees 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

[–]danc906De Gea -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

Pogba

ZLATAN

[–]IwanJones10Ander Herrera 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

       Martial           Zlatan           Mkhi  

                 Pogba           Herrera  

                    Schneiderlin

       Shaw       Bailly    Smalling       Darmian

[–]OriArRooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Preferred:

DDG; Darmian, Smalling, Baily, Shaw; Bastian, Pogba; Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Martial; Zlatan.

Mourinho will put that out bar Carrick for Bastian probably.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or Schneiderlin in Bastian's place maybe.

[–]BloodyMess111 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Preferred:

------------------------------De Gea-------------------------------

Darmian------------Smalling-------------Bailly-----------Shaw

--------------Herrera-------Schneiderlin-----Pogba-------------

Miki---------------------------------------------------------Martial

-----------------------------Ibra-----------------------------------

What I think Jose will pick:

-------------------------------De Gea-----------------------------

Darmian----------Smalling------------Bailly-------------Shaw

--------------------Shneiderlin--------Pogba-------------------

Miki------------------------Rooney----------------------Martial

-------------------------------Ibra-------------------------------

[–]emziOneMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, I'm afraid Jose will play the latter but hopefully will drop it after some games. 4-2-3-1 won't bring the best out of Pogba and... well, I don't think "the best" can be brought out of Rooney anymore

[–]BloodyMess111 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It won't take long for Jose to realise Rooney isn't a good no.10

[–]kw9403Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He may not be a good no.10 but in terms for the sort of 10 that Jose wants Rooney fits that more than lets say Mata, who's a better 10

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My issue is that I think the team would be better with a 3 man midfield. Schneiderlin holding thus allowing Pogba and Herrera more freedom. I'm worried how much freedom Pogba will have as a true box to box in a 2 man centre mid.

[–]thepurplesoulScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd like to see how this works out from time to time

              DDG
Darmian Smalling Bailly Shaw 
     Schneiderlin Pogba 
 Rashford Mkhitaryan Martial
            Zlatan

[–]twentytimes20 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                           Dave

      Fosu-Mensah  - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw 

                      Schneiderlin

                 Herrera     -    Pogba 

Mkhitaryan - Ibrahimovic - Martial

edit: tried to fix formatting, not happening; also fixed flanks and preferred footednesses (sp?)

[–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you flip it horizontally this is the line up I want to see.

For some reason you've switched the flanks and Pogba prefers LCM as well.

[–]twentytimes20 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whatever's clever, i can jive with that

[–]MoosjeMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the wrong side but yeah. You've got RBs as LBs and vice versa.

[–]twentytimes20 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did some surgery. Cheers, mate

[–]DJkoolkidzklanMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I think Mourinho will chose: De Gea; Shaw, Bailly, Smailling, Valencia; Schneiderlin, Pogba, Rooney; Martial, Ibra, Mkhitaryan

What I want: De Gea; Shaw, Bailly, Smaling, TFM; Carrick, Pogba, Herrera; Martial, Ibra, Mkhitaryan

[–]elneebreMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Honestly think we still need a class centreback to be perfect

[–]ilikemustardDe Gea 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Smalling is great and constantly improving, and Bailly is young and should be full of potential. I think we'll be fine at CB.

[–]dertigoFußballgott -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with him, I feel like there a huge dropoff after Smalling and Bailey is unproven

[–]ilikemustardDe Gea -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true. We need more depth, no doubt

[–]apparex1234Micky Targaryen 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

After that? Jones is not reliable. Rojo is pretty bad. Blind is not a center back. Remember that Bailey will be gone for a month around January when we will have lots of matches. If Smalling gets injured /suspended that time we are in big trouble.

[–]ilikemustardDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very good points, we definitely lack depth. Could use another solid CB or two.

[–]MoosjeMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

4-3-3 of De Gea; Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw; Schneiderlin, Pogba, Rooney; Martial, Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan.

At the end of the season, I hope that Rooney will have been phased out for Herrera more, and TFM finds a place either at RB or, my preferred, CDM.

[–]Excusethethrowaway -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

---------------- Carrick ---------------

---- Schn/Herr ------------ Pogba ----

Rooney needs to be phased out and sold nxt summer.

Need Carrick at DM if Smalling/Bailly are CBs.

Can't have Bastian/Carrick in the same team.

[–]IVIanUnited -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

ZLATAN

martial. rooney, mkhitaryan

Schneiderlin, Pogba

shaw, NEW CB, smalling, darmian

[–]zooooobPogback 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

new cb? already giving up on bailly? lol

[–]IVIanUnited 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no of course not, but he is raw and i think we need experience