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The Starting 11 (self.reddevils)
S_Phantom が 1時間前 投稿
With the Pogba transfer being finalize anytime soon. I'm curious to see what everyone's opinions are, concerning the starting 11. Your prefer line up to what do you think Mourinho will put on the pitch.
[–]PhilJonesOnCorners 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 1時間前 (11子コメント)
De Gea | Darmian Smalling Bailly/Blind Shaw | Schneiderlin | Herrera Pogba | Mkhitarayan Zlatan Martial
[–]Savage9645Rooney 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14分前 (0子コメント)
Can't see a scenario where Herrera consistently starts over Rooney. He'll certainly get plenty of minutes but he'll be a rotation player this season barring injury.
[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 59分前 (9子コメント)
This. I've been seeing this one a lot when line ups are discussed in here. Just one thing : why Herrera over Rooney?
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 58分前 (7子コメント)
Jose said he won't play Rooney as a CM. Plus Herrera is a better CM than Rooney.
[–]saynizz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21分前 (2子コメント)
Jose will 3000000% play rooney in the number 10 role. I'm not even sure why this is up for debate. Mou said he's not going to play him as a centre midfielder because that's not his position i.e. he will be played at number 10 which is his position. I don't understand why people are so convinced rooney's not going to be in the starting 11, he's the team captain ffs
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14分前 (1子コメント)
/u/PhilJonesOnCorners is giving their preferred lineup, not their predicted lineup. And besides, even if Rooney is a number 10, even if he's the team captain, Pogba is better than him and I'll rather play to Pogba's strengths by using a 4-3-3 than try to accommodate Rooney and play 4-2-3-1.
[–]saynizz 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分前 (0子コメント)
everyone's acting as if Pogba's some completely inflexible midfielder who is incapable of playing in a midfield 2, which I think is nonsense. He could still be given a free, creative role next to Carrick or Schneiderlin. Look at Fabregas for Chelsea, his creative freedom was never hampered.
As for Herrera being a better player than Rooney that's very debatable. Herrera's definitely easier on the eye but Rooney's finishing is much better and I'd guess he makes way more key passes. Everyone's so quick to shit on Rooney here. He's not world class right now but he's a very capable player who relies massively on confidence. Hopefully he can find that confidence in a better team under a better man manager.
[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 54分前 (3子コメント)
I see..but that leaves Rooney stranded. Rashford for Zlatan, and the #10 place is pretty stacked already. :/
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 48分前 (2子コメント)
Well if we're being brutally honest here, Rooney would most likely be sold if it weren't for him being captain and having such a big influence over the dressing room. The only thing that Rooney really offers that can't be replicated by another is leadership, and even that is debatable.
[–]AppRocks7Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分前 (1子コメント)
Agreed with most of what you said, though I'm still unsure on the leadership thing. You could see that despite all the criticism he faced last year, he came back with a bang in 2016 and literally carried us to the FA cup final. I guess I'd be really sad to see him phased out, tbh. But then again, there are some things you can't change...
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 35分前 (0子コメント)
literally carried us to the FA cup final
Yeah, nah Fellaini and Martial did that. I won't lie though, Rooney played a big role in Mata equalising in the final and he did start 2016 off with a bang. However, he still faded off after that. We're yet to see whether his 2016 start was an anomaly or he really did find his form again.
[–]dertigoFußballgott 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 57分前 (0子コメント)
He's a better player. He's more mobile, once he gets the ball he always looks to attack, a better passer. Also he's actually a midfielder whereas Rooney is only one because that's all he can play at this point in his career
[–]Launch_a_poo 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間前* (2子コメント)
Ibra Martial Rooney Mkhitaryan Pogba Schneiderlin Shaw Bailly Smalling Valencia De Gea
[–]sylheti27Schneiderlin 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 52分前 (1子コメント)
The 3-2-4-1
[–]jeffreyclees 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Pogba
[–]danc906De Gea -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
ZLATAN
[–]IwanJones10Ander Herrera 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Martial Zlatan Mkhi Pogba Herrera Schneiderlin Shaw Bailly Smalling Darmian
[–]OriArRooney 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Preferred:
DDG; Darmian, Smalling, Baily, Shaw; Bastian, Pogba; Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Martial; Zlatan.
Mourinho will put that out bar Carrick for Bastian probably.
[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Or Schneiderlin in Bastian's place maybe.
[–]BloodyMess111 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (4子コメント)
------------------------------De Gea-------------------------------
Darmian------------Smalling-------------Bailly-----------Shaw
--------------Herrera-------Schneiderlin-----Pogba-------------
Miki---------------------------------------------------------Martial
-----------------------------Ibra-----------------------------------
What I think Jose will pick:
-------------------------------De Gea-----------------------------
Darmian----------Smalling------------Bailly-------------Shaw
--------------------Shneiderlin--------Pogba-------------------
Miki------------------------Rooney----------------------Martial
-------------------------------Ibra-------------------------------
[–]emziOneMartial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 53分前 (3子コメント)
Yeah, I'm afraid Jose will play the latter but hopefully will drop it after some games. 4-2-3-1 won't bring the best out of Pogba and... well, I don't think "the best" can be brought out of Rooney anymore
[–]BloodyMess111 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 51分前 (2子コメント)
It won't take long for Jose to realise Rooney isn't a good no.10
[–]kw9403Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20分前 (1子コメント)
He may not be a good no.10 but in terms for the sort of 10 that Jose wants Rooney fits that more than lets say Mata, who's a better 10
[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18分前 (0子コメント)
My issue is that I think the team would be better with a 3 man midfield. Schneiderlin holding thus allowing Pogba and Herrera more freedom. I'm worried how much freedom Pogba will have as a true box to box in a 2 man centre mid.
[–]thepurplesoulScholes 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 58分前 (0子コメント)
I'd like to see how this works out from time to time
DDG Darmian Smalling Bailly Shaw Schneiderlin Pogba Rashford Mkhitaryan Martial Zlatan
[–]twentytimes20 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前* (5子コメント)
Dave Fosu-Mensah - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw Schneiderlin Herrera - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Ibrahimovic - Martial
edit: tried to fix formatting, not happening; also fixed flanks and preferred footednesses (sp?)
[–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
If you flip it horizontally this is the line up I want to see.
For some reason you've switched the flanks and Pogba prefers LCM as well.
[–]twentytimes20 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 59分前 (1子コメント)
Whatever's clever, i can jive with that
[–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分前 (0子コメント)
Looks like a dream
[–]MoosjeMartial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 59分前 (1子コメント)
It's the wrong side but yeah. You've got RBs as LBs and vice versa.
[–]twentytimes20 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 56分前 (0子コメント)
Did some surgery. Cheers, mate
[–]DJkoolkidzklanMartial 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 56分前 (0子コメント)
What I think Mourinho will chose: De Gea; Shaw, Bailly, Smailling, Valencia; Schneiderlin, Pogba, Rooney; Martial, Ibra, Mkhitaryan
What I want: De Gea; Shaw, Bailly, Smaling, TFM; Carrick, Pogba, Herrera; Martial, Ibra, Mkhitaryan
[–]emziOneMartial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 59分前 (0子コメント)
http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=by2my2 This is what I would go for.
[–]elneebreMartial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (5子コメント)
Honestly think we still need a class centreback to be perfect
[–]ilikemustardDe Gea 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (4子コメント)
Smalling is great and constantly improving, and Bailly is young and should be full of potential. I think we'll be fine at CB.
[–]dertigoFußballgott -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 56分前 (1子コメント)
I agree with him, I feel like there a huge dropoff after Smalling and Bailey is unproven
[–]ilikemustardDe Gea -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 50分前 (0子コメント)
Very true. We need more depth, no doubt
[–]apparex1234Micky Targaryen 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 53分前 (1子コメント)
After that? Jones is not reliable. Rojo is pretty bad. Blind is not a center back. Remember that Bailey will be gone for a month around January when we will have lots of matches. If Smalling gets injured /suspended that time we are in big trouble.
[–]ilikemustardDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 50分前 (0子コメント)
Very good points, we definitely lack depth. Could use another solid CB or two.
[–]MoosjeMartial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 56分前 (0子コメント)
4-3-3 of De Gea; Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw; Schneiderlin, Pogba, Rooney; Martial, Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan.
At the end of the season, I hope that Rooney will have been phased out for Herrera more, and TFM finds a place either at RB or, my preferred, CDM.
[–]Excusethethrowaway -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 52分前 (0子コメント)
---------------- Carrick ---------------
---- Schn/Herr ------------ Pogba ----
Rooney needs to be phased out and sold nxt summer.
Need Carrick at DM if Smalling/Bailly are CBs.
Can't have Bastian/Carrick in the same team.
[–]IVIanUnited -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間前 (3子コメント)
martial. rooney, mkhitaryan
Schneiderlin, Pogba
shaw, NEW CB, smalling, darmian
[–]zooooobPogback 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 45分前 (1子コメント)
new cb? already giving up on bailly? lol
[–]IVIanUnited 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分前 (0子コメント)
no of course not, but he is raw and i think we need experience
[–]IVIanUnited -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
AND THE FKING WALL.
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