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[–]Colleckshun 65 points66 points67 points  (30 children)
Not here to put you down on your choice to attach a fire arm to your bike.
Just a curious question though, do you plan on using the gun while stationary? if you wanna use it while mobile I'd attach it to your left side so you can work the brake and acceleratetor, might wanna work on your left hand shooting too.
Lastly, since you're in an open carry state and not in a lane splitting state (CA), why not just attach it to your hip or thigh. I'd rather. Not expose my firearm and munitions to radiant engine heat when sitting behind traffic or at lights.
[–]PandaK00sh'07 FZ6; '07 Streetglide; '96 DR650 29 points30 points31 points  (16 children)
I've asked the placement question before due to me carrying on long rides. General consensus is that it's very uncomfortable to wear on you while riding and will fuck your shit up if you go down while wearing a piece.
[–]MrF33 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
I've generally heard that a great place for your cc is inside a tank bag, but that doesn't look as "slick" as this does.
[–]scuba7183CO | '01 SV650N | '99 DR650 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
Also have to worry about transferring to your body if you stop
[–]MrF33 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
That applies to mounting it to the bike in any way right?
I'd figure at least with the holster or tank bag you have pretty good access to it without moving around on the bike
[–]PandaK00sh'07 FZ6; '07 Streetglide; '96 DR650 2 points3 points4 points  (5 children)
That does look slick. Like the police bikes with ARs on the back :drool:
Personally I don't care about slick as much as I do discretion and functionality.
[–]MrF33 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Yeah, I like the concealed part of concealed carry
[–]xxdorckusxx2009 CBR 600RR 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
Crimony, where do you live?
[–]PandaK00sh'07 FZ6; '07 Streetglide; '96 DR650 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
Just outside of Los Angeles. Police here ride BMW k1200 with chopped Mossberg 500 or ar15 carbines locked to the back. Very beautiful ;)
[–]Karmaislame2014 Bolt 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The first time I saw a rifle on a bike out here it was a Spas-12. Cool as fuck.
[–]xxdorckusxx2009 CBR 600RR 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
How badass! Imagine you and your homies riding around like that lol!
[–]scuba7183CO | '01 SV650N | '99 DR650 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Jacket pocket carry works best for that
[–]Spheyr2004 VFR800 / 2004 Ninja 250 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I carry every day and have had a 30ish MPH accident where I landed on my strong side. It didn't feel good, but it didn't cause my hip to explode into a thousand pieces, or hurt either the holster or the Glock.
[–]TheAdventuresofMoss2015 Yamaha FZ-07 -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
I carry Appendix IWB while I ride. I don't have crash experience to back this up but I find it very comfortable and can't imagine it contributing to a more serious injury.
[–]infecto 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
It can definitely make your crash worse. If you land on the firearm its going to cause less distribution of impact force and can cause greater internal injuries.
[–]Colleckshun -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
Personally I'd just imagine you would slide on it like a metal puck if you fell on asphalt.
[–]infecto 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Its not the sliding, its the initial impact. If you get thrown and land on a small piece of metal its going to focus the impact compared to landing without a piece of metal sticking off of you.
[–]PandaK00sh'07 FZ6; '07 Streetglide; '96 DR650 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I've read horror stories of people going down and even something small in their pockets cause serious damage. All I know is I don't want to find out either way.
[–]Powdrtostman[S] 61 points62 points63 points  (0 children)
Only did this out of boredom. No intent on keeping it there
[–]work_login08 BMW G650X Country 1 point2 points3 points  (8 children)
What does lane splitting have to do with open carry?
[–]magicbike85 Magna 500, 87 KZ305 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Read his comment, he's talking about the danger of the gun getting hot while the bike is standing still in traffic.
[–]lanceruscoe 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I could be completely wrong, but I think they're concerned with a hip holstered pistol being torn away from the hip in the event of contact with another vehicle while lane splitting. If not, I have no fuckin' clue.
[–]TheAdventuresofMoss2015 Yamaha FZ-07 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
Can't lane split = bike gets hot. Hot bike =? damaged gun and self-detonating rounds.
Can't speak to the probability of the heat causing the rounds to explode or damaging the gun (both doubtful) but I can speak to the Bolt getting really, really hot in traffic.
[–]macbooklover912011 Honda CBR250r 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
It would have to hot, like more than 400 degrees F for a round to melt/discharge. That's a myth perpetuated by Hollywood.
The holster would melt before this.
[–]COMplex_2016 Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory 1100 / 2013 Ducati 1199 Panigale S 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Have you ever ridden a Panigale? It'd melt the gun too. :D
[–]beastiecurls -3 points-2 points-1 points  (2 children)
He's trying to make a connection or something. California in general is very anti-guns and do not allow open carry. Cali is also the only state that allows lane splitting.
[–]asdfman 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
I think this was it too. Since he's open-carrying, he must not be in California. Since he's not in California, he's not legally allowed to lanesplit. Don't think the lanesplitting part has anything to do with gun safety or engine heat.
[–]sqrage 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
He mentioned the engine heat of sitting behind traffic
[–]YaboyshaneCT | 2009 KLR 650 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
The sweet sweet karma. Nobody in their right mind would leave that thing on there
[–]OmniaMors2008 Kawasaki EX500 Ninja -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
You should NOT be using your firearm while moving.
  1. If you can move you're probably get out of the situation non violently. So using you firearm when you have a safer way to avoid the problem is not acceptable.
  2. You can only post attention to one thing properly at a time. You either won't be looking at the road or won't be looking where you're aiming.
  3. Even if you are looking where you're aiming, you can't hit shit from a moving platform. So even if you have a target and aren't bind firing, odds are you are going to miss risking hitting an innocent bystander.
[–]Powdrtostman[S] 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
But...but...the movies! Hollywood wouldn't lie to us!
[–]Some_Old_Man_Fishin 14 points15 points16 points  (2 children)
That's a strange looking frame slider...
[–]Crap6046'15 FZ-07 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
It's one of those new ones where it shoots the person that makes you crash
[–]-fuck-off-loser-14' ANAL BEAD 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Pew pew while dank whoolies on that leader bike
[–]vwombatv 48 points49 points50 points  (58 children)
one word: 'murica
[–]Powdrtostman[S] 7 points8 points9 points  (57 children)
As 'murica as it gets. Next step, assault rifles mounted to handle bars.
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 11 points12 points13 points  (55 children)
assault rifles
At $30k a piece? Must be nice being loaded.
[–]Powdrtostman[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
I wish. That'd be nice.
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
You and me both.
[–]_akromCurrently '13 Ninja 300 1 point2 points3 points  (48 children)
Where do you get your numbers from?
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 35 points36 points37 points  (36 children)
Assault rifle = fully automatic rifle. There is a ban on all fully automatic firearms manufactured after 1986. Therefore, they're exceedingly rare and extremely expensive. They appreciate every year. An M4, which is about the most common assault rifle, is about $30k these days.
And you, or whoever is doing it, can feel free to stop downvoting me for providing information. I didn't need to bitch about this.
[–]jdgsr 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
Don't forget about your $200 tax stamp and several month wait time.
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
Yup, and a federal registry.
[–]ronoverdriveDE Suzuki SV650s/Subaru Impreza 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
And restrictions on transportation.
[–]Nickm19 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
then again if your spending 30+ grand on a full auto weapon an extra 200 dollars isnnt really gonna bother people who have full auto kind of money. its the stupidly long wait that bothers most
[–]COMplex_2016 Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory 1100 / 2013 Ducati 1199 Panigale S 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
I'd assume he was using the mainstream media's definition, not the strict definition. :D
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Agreed. My reply to him was intended to be a joke, too.
[–]_akromCurrently '13 Ninja 300 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Thanks for adding
or whoever is doing it, can feel free to stop downvoting me for providing information
as I feel no need to downvote someone over this. I really just wanted to know why it would cost 30k for an assault rifle.
[–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
No worries. Not claiming you were in fact downvoting me, sorry for implying it.
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    [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
    That isn't an automatic rifle. I'm sure it was just a joke, and my reply to him was as well. But now that I can see people are interested in the facts, I'm sharing them.
    [–]Chowley_107 Daytona 675 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    The 'AR' in AR-15 stands for Armalite Rifle.
    Armalite is the company that originally produced it
    [–]jdovew2014 Honda CB500X 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
    "Automatic" and "Semi-automatic" refer to rounds fired per trigger pull. The AR-15 fired one round with each pull of the trigger. It is therefore semi-automatic.
    [–]Frothyleet2014 CB500F 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
    Actually, "fully automatic" vs" "semi-automatic" is the distinction you are making. Technically, "automatic" just means self-loading and encompasses both semi-automatic and fully automatic (or burst firing) firearms.
    [–]LiveFree1773'02 TTR250 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Yup this is correct.
    [–]jdovew2014 Honda CB500X 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Thank you for being more exact.
    [–][deleted]  (12 children)
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      [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 3 points4 points5 points  (11 children)
      So wrong. You don't need a class 3 license in Texas to own a fully automatic firearm, you only need the NFA form 4 and $200 tax. But even with this, you cannot legally purchase a select fire lower and build a fully automatic. This would be a fully automatic made after 1986, which is federally illegal.
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        [–]DarkestPassenger'14 Bolt. RIP '80 XJ650 -9 points-8 points-7 points  (1 child)
        That ban expired. Oregon is a class 3 state. You can legally purchase them.
        Finding one however...
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
        The ban has not expired. Some states have laws that go above and beyond the Brady Bill and say you can't buy any automatic weapons, including all exempted from the Brady Bill made before 1986. Oregon is a state that simply abides by the Brady Bill, but doesn't have its own laws on automatics beyond that. Most states are a "class 3" state, meaning you still need the tax stamp for pre-1986 automatics.
        [–]gamer0152 -10 points-9 points-8 points  (5 children)
        Anything semiautomatic can have the trigger mechanism changed to be full auto.
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
        Which is a felony. Any car can have a turbo bolted onto it. That doesn't make it a car sold as a turbo.
        [–]E_hV11 ZX6R | 09 250 r (Sold) 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        Which is a felony and even distributing knowledge on how to do it can get you in a very serious bind.
        [–]ronoverdriveDE Suzuki SV650s/Subaru Impreza -2 points-1 points0 points  (2 children)
        Which usually requires a complete swap out of internals and possibly modification to the receiver housing. For example to turn an AR-15 into a M-16 you would need to swap out all the internals from the closed bolt system the AR comes with to the open bolt system the M-16 uses which is neither easy to find nor easy to obtain by civilians.
        [–]Frothyleet2014 CB500F 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        The M16 does not fire from an open bolt.
        [–]ronoverdriveDE Suzuki SV650s/Subaru Impreza 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You're right, I was thinking the Colt Automatic Rifle which started off with the name Colt M16 LMG and is based off the M16/AR design.
        [–]kestrel8082011 KLE650 -19 points-18 points-17 points  (10 children)
        Semantics...
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 19 points20 points21 points  (6 children)
        Semantics my ass. Words matter, definitions matter. "Assault rifle" can actually be found written into federal law that has stayed on the books since 1986. It's a term recognized by police, military, gun owners, and the government. "Assault weapon" is a term not recognized by police or military, and the meaning of the term varies from one politician to another.
        [–]Frothyleet2014 CB500F -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        You actually kind of have that backwards. "Assault weapon", as a legal term, was written into federal law (although since the federal AWB expiration, it exists now only at the state level). Federal law does not define what an assault rifle is, although if you could point to a definition in the CFR or USC I would be very interested.
        "Machine gun" is, however, defined in federal law by the NFA. You might be conflating that.
        [–]DonnieK20 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (0 children)
        Words matter hurt.
        [–]kestrel8082011 KLE650 comment score below threshold-19 points-18 points-17 points  (3 children)
        The very fact that assault rifle means different things to different people is literally semantics.
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
        Ignorance of the definition of a term =/= different definitions of a term.
        The definition of "assault weapon" varies, because it's a term completely made up by politicians, and the qualifications of firearms to fit the term are stretched from state to state. There is no one agreed upon definition. "Assault rifle" means select fire rifle. Period. An AR-15, for example, is not an assault rifle. It could be considered by some people to be an assault weapon.
        [–]A3rdAcctSuzuki Savage Bobber 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        It's OK to be wrong.
        [–]E_hV11 ZX6R | 09 250 r (Sold) 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        It legitimately doesn't. Assault rifle has a set definition, it's a rifle with a detachable magazine which fires a intermediate round and have select fire capability.
        Assault weapon is defined most colloquially as a semi auto rifle which fires a intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine which has X features. Where X is largely cosmetic features which do not change the lethality of the rifle. X also varies by state. Examples of X include but are not limited to barrel shrouds, collapsible stock, threaded barrels etc.
        Assault rifles were banned for civilian manufacture after 1986 and only one person ever has been killed by a assault rifle after 1986. Assault weapons were banned from 94-04 and in certain states.
        In fact there are documents in Congress records which state the name was chosen because it was confusing to those not educated in firearms to build support for the original assault weapon ban Circa 1993.
        So not semantics.
        [–]aliasthehorse comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (2 children)
        I get so tired of the gun bronies going all autist about clips vs mags or something equally banal like it matters. Let me call it an assault rifle and you can say it's 6 inches, ok?
        [–]Chowley_107 Daytona 675 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        I don't understand people like you who insist on being wrong even when presented with correct information.
        [–]aliasthehorse -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        I've been in the NRA since 1992, I know all the right words, I just get tired of the hostile and smarmy little derailments every time it comes up.
        [–]-fuck-off-loser-14' ANAL BEAD 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Assfault rifles
        [–]gamer0152 -12 points-11 points-10 points  (2 children)
        30k a piece for an assault rifle? You can build an AR-15 for about 1k.
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
        They're going as low as $600 these days, which is why most of us indeed just choose an AR-15. But an AR-15 is not an assault rifle.
        [–]hogwonGS550 Cafe|99 Bandit 600|15 FZ-07 comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (0 children)
        He's being a pedantic moron.
        [–]myotheraltLa Crosse, WI '14 Versys 650, '79 CM4ooT 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
        My only problem with this kind of system is that the firearm has to be removed and handled more often. Any time you leave the bike, you shouldn't be leaving the gun on it.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        If I were to keep it on, I'd use another holster when off the bike. I put it on just to see if I could manage it. It's a plastic holster and too close to the exhaust. If the holster would hold up to the heat, I doubt the zip ties would.
        [–]rlisboa 10 points11 points12 points  (14 children)
        Next project: 50 cal mounted on the handlebar.
        [–]boredatworkandtired2000 sportster 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
        that is what sidecars are for
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 9 points10 points11 points  (9 children)
        That may be a little much. I'm thinking double AR-15s with grenade launcher attachments. And maybe flamethrower exhaust
        [–]avbodenBMWF800S/ATK605 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
        On mobile so can't find it but Google: dragonman Colorado
        [–]ridethepiggyWA - Ducati Streetfighter S 🐙 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
        dragonman Colorado
        [–]avbodenBMWF800S/ATK605 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        There it is :-)
        [–]DarkestPassenger'14 Bolt. RIP '80 XJ650 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        Get a Harley and it'll put out James Bond oil slicks too!
        I kid I kid. Harley's are great bikes. To look at in the back of a truck
        [–]ThatCanadianPerson2000 Yamaha TTR-250 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Hey! 75% of Harley's are still on the road today! The other 25% made it home.
        [–]Plutoid2000 Suzuki SV650 (reddest/fastest) / 1982 Suzuki GS550L 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        [–]nominallyMucati Donster 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Practically half a turbo charger!
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Reloading that would be a bitch.
        [–]changger04 Z1000 / 15 EX300 / 09 WR250X / 87 YSR50 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        [–]HIGHHAMMER'14 Ducati 899 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Nice. Wouldn't wanna burn your leg on that exhaust.
        [–]Lightwysh 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
        Scoot it further back to the vertical bar behind the air cleaner/battery box. Where it's at now it subject to heat from the exhaust and its directly under your thigh. That vertical portion of the frame looks like it would be much easier to draw from as well as avoid the heat issue.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Drawing wasn't the issue, the heat is. It's not on, just for the hell of it I put it on.
        [–]Lightwysh 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I saw, but while we're having fun, why not look at all the options?
        [–]xynewman2001 Yamaha FZ1 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        What an awful design for a frame slider.
        [–]-Thunderbear- -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        Great use for a Block, though.
        [–]boobturtleCB300FA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Holy fuck you seppos can be terrifying at times. I mean I love you guys - you are the nicest, most hospitable people on earth.. but the gun thing is just so damn ridiculous to an outsider.
        [–]matjamAussie in CA | 2014 Ducati Panigale 1199s 22 points23 points24 points  (1 child)
        Watch out! We got a badass over here!
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        Not even my final form!
        [–]scottevilAustin, TX - '07 Z1000 - '13 848 EVO 5 points6 points7 points  (21 children)
        I don't know why people use those holsters but you should be careful, those blackhawk serpa holsters can cause accidental discharges.
        basically as you're pushing the button to release the weapon it's perfectly inline with the trigger, you're applying pressure so your finger can easily pull the trigger once it's exposed.
        [–]just_some_tech14 Honda CTX700N 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
        On all my Serpa holsters, my finger rest on the slide above the trigger housing. When I am ready to shoot, I move my finger to the trigger.
        Maybe it is just practice, but I have never had my finger land on the trigger when drawing from them.
        YMMV
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        So you hold a gun the proper way, not the Hollywood way? Me too.
        [–]YamahaCruiser*SuFu, SD* 2007 V Star 1300 Tourer 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Love my SERPA holster. I am wondering how a ND is likely, since it puts your finger in the proper position for safety?
        [–]MallNinja45 11 points12 points13 points  (11 children)
        Holster is fine. It takes a high level of incompetence to do that.
        [–]scottevilAustin, TX - '07 Z1000 - '13 848 EVO 2 points3 points4 points  (9 children)
        ya, or you know, when your adrenaline is pumping during a conflict and you don't have the presence of mind to remember a series of steps in order to unholster your gun and not shoot yourself in the process.
        edit: hah, i just noticed your username.. highly relevant.
        [–]MallNinja45 5 points6 points7 points  (4 children)
        It's not really that difficult. It's kinda hard to see in the picture, but the top of the paddle is in line with the frame, above the trigger. Pushing the paddle and drawing places your trigger finger in the indexed position. In order to be positioned in line with the trigger you have to have a low grip, instead of snugged up against the beavertail. This is why it's important to practice with your gear, so you don't get all hamfisty in a stressful situation and fudge your grip as a result.
        [–]scottevilAustin, TX - '07 Z1000 - '13 848 EVO 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
        i agree with people should practice, a lot, but the less i have to do to deploy my weapon the better.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Again with practice, many steps turn into one swift and precise motion. The gun I carry on duty has a thumb release on the holster and a thumb safety. When I draw those two steps are one fluid motion.
        [–]MallNinja45 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Agreed.
        [–]sympathicoUnited States 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        I have no problem with a tactical quick-release holster. After a thousand times pulling it, you can practically never pull it out wrong (index pointing down the barrel). I don't know if my muscle memory would even allow me to do it wrong. The last thing I want to do is be fooling with straps, buttons, and velcro when seconds could mean life or death; And the adrenaline is pumping.
        Also, a quick release may allow a draw from a holster, even if the bike was on its side, and the gun is underneath. I don't know, and don't ever want to be in a situation to find out.
        [–]vanquish421'07 SV650S - Austin 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        That's still bad wording, saying the holster can cause accidental discharges. Unless the holster itself is firing your gun, it's the misuse of the holster causing a discharge. It's fair to criticize the design, sure, but the holster itself isn't responsible for the gun firing.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Practice makes perfect. I've been in a few situations where I've had to draw down on someone with different holsters, never has my finger landed on the trigger
        [–]scuba7183CO | '01 SV650N | '99 DR650 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        True, but in my case there are almost no retention holsters for a Ruger SR9c, so I'm kinda stuck with the serpa
        [–]scottevilAustin, TX - '07 Z1000 - '13 848 EVO 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        i just wanted raise awareness, as others have said, practice makes perfect.. it's obviously not a death sentence or else they would have pulled these holsters from the market :)
        [–]macbooklover912011 Honda CBR250r 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Don't underestimate peoples incompetence.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I'm aware of this. That's why I don't use it for work. I only did this for shots and giggles, removed it after the picture
        [–]Spheyr2004 VFR800 / 2004 Ninja 250 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        I've been carrying with a Serpa for almost a decade, practicing draws from it every time I go to the range. It's user error if you shoot yourself with it, not a flaw in the design.
        [–]scottevilAustin, TX - '07 Z1000 - '13 848 EVO 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Its weird for a range to allow draws from the hip in my experience.. For that very reason.
        [–]motoBroBro 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        It actually puts your finger tip right on the slide. You have to move your finger downwards to get to the bang switch. I like both, but brown/tan leather is prettier.
        [–]soggysecret 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You mean negligent.
        [–]Frothyleet2014 CB500F 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The thing I don't get with Serpa-apologists is that if there is even a tiny issue with the release on the holster, what's the benefit? There are lots of other retention holsters out there that work at least as well and don't have a retention system that puts your finger anywhere near the trigger. Get a Safariland holster with a thumb release, boom, done.
        [–]changger04 Z1000 / 15 EX300 / 09 WR250X / 87 YSR50 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
        I know this is a joke but it reminded me of this onion article
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        A lot of people carry guns for this reason. My area just had a 6yr old girl killed because some douche bag saw a guy that intimidated him the day before so he fired a round to scare him, hit innocent girl. World is fucked up.
        [–]GhostfaceHecklahVA Beach | '06 SV650N 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I really want a cruiser just to rock a shotgun scabbard all down low.
        [–]Chasing_Sunsets(WI) '06 SV1000S 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Looks good.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Aw, I'm blushing. Thanks.
        [–]theneverman 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        throttle side?
        [–]fellipec 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        A freedom ride
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Making our founders proud
        [–]YamahaCruiser*SuFu, SD* 2007 V Star 1300 Tourer 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Yamaha hurt my feelings with that gap between the tank and seat.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Yea, that part is ugly. I really enjoy the bike though.
        [–]AmericanProud227TaoTao 50cc 3 points4 points5 points  (5 children)
        Looks nice, what bike is it and how the hell did you attach it on there...zipties?
        [–]TheAdventuresofMoss2015 Yamaha FZ-07 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
        Yamaha (Star) Bolt, R-spec edition. 942cc.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
        Yes, 2016.
        [–]piratesgoyarrrr2008 Road Star Warrior 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        Why the hell has someone gone and downvoted every one of your comments? I think you annoyed a passive aggressive lol.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        Ouch, I was disliked on a website with a make believe point system that holds no actual bearing on my contribution to society by a mouth breather that's afraid of firearms so he feels the need to bash those that own them.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Yes zip ties. A little movement on it. If they held up to the road, i don't think it'd stand up to the heat from the exhaust so close.
        [–]ridethepiggyWA - Ducati Streetfighter S 🐙 5 points6 points7 points  (13 children)
        An unloaded gun is useless, you might as well have a rock in there.
        [–]dirtbumF650gs 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        Dwight?
        [–]ridethepiggyWA - Ducati Streetfighter S 🐙 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        Steve?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 16 points17 points18 points  (10 children)
        I'm certainly not going to keep the gun loaded while I'm working on installing it. Especially with my kid around.
        [–]ridethepiggyWA - Ducati Streetfighter S 🐙 2 points3 points4 points  (9 children)
        I get that! Just looks funny in a photo op. ;)
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
        Too lazy to run back in and unlock safe for a mag just for the pic.
        [–]JaredsFatPants 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
        Just because there's no magazine doesn't mean it's not loaded.
        [–]thetacticalspycrabMy only bikes are in my dreams :( 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        Yes Powdrtostman, that is the sound a gun makes
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        No no, guns say "pew"
        [–]Spheyr2004 VFR800 / 2004 Ninja 250 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Glocks say "Achtung!"
        [–]_akromCurrently '13 Ninja 300 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        Probably get hate for this, but a gun in a safe is a gun you can't use. I was a Deputy for 6 years, which ment having my issued Glock 21 with me at work and home. The best option was to keep it in my level 3 retention holster and teach my kids gun saftey. I have 3 guns in my house, generally out of reach of my kids, that are always hot (one in the barrel)
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Glock 21 is pictured here. Good man.
        [–]ronpaulfan69 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        It's a good thing children never do anything impulsive or irrational.
        [–]654456 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
        You must be such a badass...
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
        You're the 3rd or 4th person to post this. Please read take sure you come up with an original insult.
        [–]654456 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (1 child)
        To much effort.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        Par for the course with redditors
        [–]sudormrf- 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        Is this for real?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        No. Was bored and challenged myself to make it work.
        [–]WolfOfSesameSt 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        Nice Bolt! Bolt owners unite! I don't keep a piece strapped to mine though.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        Love the bolt. Only about 2 weeks old. The gun was just for the fun of it. It was back off before I posted the pics. Knew some people would love it and some would bash me, but fuck 'em.
        [–]impossiblebeetle26 -5 points-4 points-3 points  (6 children)
        Americans.
        [–]Harmful_if_InhaledNoVA | 06 SV1000S squid machine and a KLR650 くコ:彡 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        Are best
        [–]FondabaruCBR4_6RSAWD03 ZX9R & 99 CBR600 F4 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
        Jealous that our government treats us like adults?
        [–]Spheyr2004 VFR800 / 2004 Ninja 250 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        It's trying its best not to, sadly.
        [–]FondabaruCBR4_6RSAWD03 ZX9R & 99 CBR600 F4 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        Oh I don't buy it, federal government won't do anything, state governments on the other hand will be troublesome.
        [–]Spheyr2004 VFR800 / 2004 Ninja 250 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Federal government will the instant it gets a chance.
        [–]HarveytoLockett 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        "If we let them have their guns they won't kick up about collecting all their emails and texts"
        [–]motorcyclemechanic05' Victory Kingpin 92ci 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
        What do you do once you get off the bike like to go into a store? Do you just put it on your waist holster?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        If I was keeping it on, that'd be the solution.
        [–]motorcyclemechanic05' Victory Kingpin 92ci 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        Keeping what on? You wouldn't just leave it on the bike would you?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The holster. Wasn't sturdy enough nor would it hold up to the heat of the exhaust. Just put it on for boredom sake.
        [–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        for the love of god, clean your yard
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Just tore a deck down and in the process of building a new one.
        [–]Karmaislame2014 Bolt 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        For some reason I have been thinking of something like this to hold my Model 10 on my Bolt. Buuuuuut I live in CA and can't exactly do that. I'm jealous of the biker cops around here that have racks for their AR's, 870's and SPAS-12s.
        [–]LazyRubiksCube 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Murica!
        [–]DooDooBrownz'06 SV650s (blue the fastest color), '81 xs850 comment score below threshold-18 points-17 points-16 points  (4 children)
        wow, that some top level cringe right there. you're SO cool, rambo.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
        Something makes me think you're a vegan hipster.
        [–]hogwonGS550 Cafe|99 Bandit 600|15 FZ-07 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (1 child)
        And you're a weak man with no sense of masculinity outside of accessories like a motorcycle and a gun. See how easy and dumb generalizations are?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        Gun(s)...I'm going to mount more. It's going to be known as the cycle of death. Like something out of a tarintino movie.
        [–]MallNinja45 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        How is this "cringey?"
        [–]NoNeedForFrontTire comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points  (20 children)
        Open carry is by far the most idiotic and attention whoring thing you could ever do in regards to firearms.
        Not only are you asking for explicit cop attention, but you make it incredibly easy for someone to get a hold of your gun.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 11 points12 points13 points  (8 children)
        1. I am a cop. So I get all the cop attention I desire 5 days a week.
        2. No one would get to it or possibly even see it as riding position. Would have it tucked behind my leg.
        3. It's on there for fun. Put on out of boredom and curious if I could make it work.
        [–]Frothyleet2014 CB500F 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        I don't understand why no one is asking the real question here: are we being detained? ARE WE FREE TO GO?!
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I am an Article 4 free inhabitant! I have all the rights of an American without having to obey any of the laws!
        [–]work_login08 BMW G650X Country 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
        Doesn't have to be attention whoring. I do it on my bike because my jacket rides up and exposes half of my gun and you don't want to do that. You either fully conceal or open carry so I have to open carry when I ride.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
        I think he's just one of those super liberals that is afraid of guns and would have kids suspended from school for pretending their Pop Tart was a gun.
        [–]Giraffosaurus1976 Honda CB550F 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Or he just disagrees with you. Try avoiding ad hominem if you want to sound like the more reasonable one. Not a good strategy.
        [–]sudormrf- 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I'm just from one of those countries that doesn't really have guns, so I find this sort of behaviour...well, I guess not surprising. How else do you kill 11,000 people a year?
        [–]myotheraltLa Crosse, WI '14 Versys 650, '79 CM4ooT -1 points0 points1 point  (6 children)
        I open carry, technically. I have an IWB holster, but my shirt is tucked behind the pistol. When I'm on my bike I have my jacket over it, but when I'm in my car, no jacket so pistol grip is exposed.
        I have the anxiety (and have treatment plans) when I'm out with it exposed, but I have never been confronted about it.
        In my state, open carry is legal and ccw is with a permit.
        [–]work_login08 BMW G650X Country 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
        I have to open carry on my bike because my jacket rides up a bit and exposes half my gun. Some people ride like that but I hear it's not a good idea to have a half concealed gun, you should fully conceal or open carry. So I just open carry on the bike.
        [–]scuba7183CO | '01 SV650N | '99 DR650 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
        not a good idea to have a half concealed gun
        Huh?
        [–]work_login08 BMW G650X Country 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
        I've heard, not sure if it's true, that cops don't like a concealed weapon being exposed can can charge you for brandishing. So you either have to FULLY conceal it or open carry, not have a part of it sticking out. Like I said, I don't know if that's true or not but it kinda makes sense so I just open carry to be safe.
        [–]scuba7183CO | '01 SV650N | '99 DR650 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        As long as open carry is legal, you're fine. For brandishing there (generally) has to be some implied threat or fear. Some people do a "Virginia tuck", where the gun is carried IWB (barrel in pants) but your shirt is tucked behind the grip, exposing it
        [–]work_login08 BMW G650X Country 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        For brandishing there (generally) has to be some implied threat or fear.
        That makes sense. But I also live away from the city so guns are more common and no one freaks out if you open carry.
        [–]toxicdover 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Yeah, that's true unless your state allows for open carry as well as concealed, in which case it's only brandishing if you're waving it around or something of the sort.
        [–]Itsmylittlebrothersb 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Thank you for doing this.
        [–]ads215'99 V-Star 1100 Classic -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        How is the 'cycle scene in Kabul?
        [–]cosworth99SR250, XS400 X2, XS360, SR500, DT175, Ducati 620ie Dark comment score below threshold-24 points-23 points-22 points  (8 children)
        So now you've increased your chances of having your bike stolen at gunpoint. Excellent.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Would be difficult to get it as it'd be tucked behind my leg and the way the holster works they'd have to really work it to make it happen. Good try though.
        [–]MallNinja45 2 points3 points4 points  (6 children)
        Incorrect. That's a level 2 retention holster, it'll be really difficult if not impossible for a criminal to retrieve it if OP is on the bike.
        [–]sudormrf- -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        How's OP supposed to retrieve it then?
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
        It'd be easy from riding position and knowing how the holster operates.
        [–]MallNinja45 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Reaching down and pressing the paddle while pushing on the hood with his thumb. Then he pulls straight up and back. A criminal would have to be coming from basically just behind OP's right side, practically touching him to be able to draw the gun. Which would put the criminal within striking distance, or put him in a position where OP could just drive off. That's why cops use retention holsters, many use this exact holster. It's wayy harder than it looks for someone to steal your gun.
        Edit: Furthermore, a retention holster is the way to go on a motorcycle as you're much less likely to lose the gun.
        [–]_akromCurrently '13 Ninja 300 -6 points-5 points-4 points  (2 children)
        not if the criminal has practiced. We had level 3 retention for work and I worked with a guy that could face you and get the gun out of your holster and pointed at you faster than you could attempt to stop him.
        Just to clarify, from reading your other comment. This is what we carried. If you use the opposite hand that the owner uses to shoot (if it is on his right hip, use your right hand) you can push back the plastic piece on the front, push down the top strap with the meat your your hand and pull it towards you, use your pinky to hit the "thumb" release and pull back and out with your first fingers and thumb.
        [–]MallNinja45 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        I've used that holster before and yes that's possible. However the owner of the gun is still in a very defensible position and has an advantage over the attacker, as the attacker has to expose himself and get in close to attempt that technique. The attacker will also have a very shitty grip. Furthermore, that technique is difficult, very few criminals know how to do that, and it doesn't work on simultaneous thumb and paddle break holsters like OP's. Your story is a rare exception.
        [–]_akromCurrently '13 Ninja 300 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        yeah, it doesn't work on thumb and forefinger breaks either.
        [–]Blabberm0uth2013 BMW R1200GS -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
        Good idea. If Trump wins I suspect that it'll become more necessary. (not /s)
        [–]nomnom02 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        With all that blm stuff thats gonna happen
        [–]XxRUDYTUDYxXFJ1200, FZ1, KLR650 くコ:彡 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        ITT: Butthurt Euros. Looks slick! Actually took me a second to find it. My KLR650 tank is wrapped with a MOLLE vest, I keep mine holstered on the left side of the tank for the camping trips. Now I just need to figure out how to carry my shotgun or Ruger 10/22 lol.
        [–]KeavesSharpi -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
        I can't wait for the followup: TIFU: Left my sidearm on my bike and it was used in a robbery :)
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Nope, removed. Never intended on keeping it there. Did it to see if I could.
        [–]gasm_spasm2005 DRZ 400SM -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
        I would be afraid that on rides of any real length that the continual heat rolling off of the exhaust might damage the holster rig, at the very least. Some say ammo can cook off at 200 degrees or become duds. Having ammo exploding in the clip or chamber or simply not working when you need it to seems counter productive.
        [–]Powdrtostman[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        No real plan to keep it mounted. Boredom came into play.
        [–]mawo333 comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points  (2 children)
        And one day it will either fall of or you will leave it at the parking lot.
        Even worse, what do you do at each gas stop? do you pull out the gun in the middle of a gas station or do you leave it at the bike while going in to pay (and leaving the gun outside where you can´t see what is happening to it ? )
        [–]Chowley_107 Daytona 675 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        while going in to pay
        Credit cards yo...pay at the pump
        [–]mawo333 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        ah ok, when I was in the USA we usually had to go in to pay but i guess that changes from region to region and chain to chain
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