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[–]Your_Coke_Dealer 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

They usually have a line on where to get great coke, anytime, anywhere

And she's definitely banging him, trust me

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is very often the case. I don't keep drug girls; they're always trouble.

[–]mrtoosmooth 58ポイント59ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn Uncle! back at it again with gold for content.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Happy to help.

[–]great_artists_steal 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

So... Once I move to NYC, where do I find...?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

We can talk about lifting all day long, but if you want gains, its you who has to get back into the House of Iron.

[–]great_artists_steal 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fair enough... This might seem like further whining from a try-hard intellectual. But. The problem often is to just visualize how to achieve goals. Lifting is easy because the instructions are readily available (if hard to follow). Setting up a business isn't because there are no instructions (a "not to do" list at best). I imagine fucking models is more like the latter, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. Edit: Anyways, I need to vote myself down, your replies to other questions/comments are way more interesting!

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

This might seem like further whining from a try-hard intellectual.

"That...is why you fail"

There are no "cheat codes". You have to go out, approach, get shot down, approach another chick, etc. This is why I tell guys to "Think horizontally, not vertically". There is no One Special Unicorn.

Game is "skills based", like hitting a baseball. You can't just read about it in books. You have to go out, practice it, learn it, become one with it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

So... Once I move to NYC, where do I find...?

..... the balls to improve yourself?
or
..... all the hot model types?

You'll need the 1st to do the 2nd. If you've done the work for the first, the 2nd is easy because in a city of millions, they're everywhere. But if you're to stand out as a guy, you better be improving yourself or have rock solid confidence.... if you have both, the questions in your mind stop and you'll pursue what you want.

[–]OmegaMan2 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

You forgot about "Bum Fuck, Idaho".

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

And BFE, Nebraska. It wasn't intended to be an exhaustive list.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And Alabama. I grow tired of my brother going on and on about finding nothing but single moms and fatties, yet he won't leave the semi-rural area he lives in.

I live near Atlanta. The women are better, and I actually see hotties from time to time.

It's so logical, yet so few men will concede and make the moves necessary. :/

[–]sorceryofthetesticle 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

A lot of this sounds like thirsty mate guarding that somehow isn't 'thirsty mate guarding.' How do you make that one happen?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not thirsty because I'm not thirsty. Some of it is just unavoidable, because there will be creeper guys that you have to throw over the side. The girls are usually down with that, unless they need validation at that moment. For that bit at the airport, I was just acknowledging the truth and the "Possession of the Ass" bit has everything to do with her psyche. It's not like I'm pissing on her to mark my territory.

[–]PissedPajamas 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

You sound like a shit-eating grin personified. I'd like to kick it with you whenever I'm in NYC but I'm in Miami and this place is sausage wallet heaven

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was a sarcastic prick back in the day and probably a bit smug, but really, it's not bragging if it's true.

Now I have much more of a chill vibe. If you know the story about the two young fish swimming along, and an older fish swims by and says, "How's the water today, boys?" and they reply "Fine." Then they swim on and one says to the other, "What is water?", I'm very much the older fish now.

Miami has some good points and bad points. It has some chill places to hang, and the girls walk around basically naked, but OTOH, SMV is much more looks-based, and it's just not a service town at all.

[–]Fedora_Tipper_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Miami is great on its male/female ratio?

[–]PissedPajamas 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you don't look like shit you might accidentally find yourself in a threesome with smoking hot bitches at Miami beach.

[–]Fedora_Tipper_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice. I'm in the Silicon valley. Ratio is pretty bad here but you do decent if you atleast lift like TRP says

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Miami already has more women then men. Factor in that half the dudes are gay and you have 2-1 or even 3-1 ratio women to men.

Like fishing with dynamite

[–]Americasballs 17ポイント18ポイント  (21子コメント)

Great article man.

I am currently in NYC working in finance, making great money and I'm in the best shape of my life, how do you go about finding these coke bunnies and getting into their retarded fashion friends circle?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 27ポイント28ポイント  (18子コメント)

You turn your computer off, and you go outside. You see a smoke show and you walk up and introduce yourself. It's that simple.

With the lifestyle-reporter chick, I did exactly that, saw her, thought "That girl wants to meet me," and walked up and introduced myself. The Euro chick and I were set up on a blind date. She is insanely intelligent was was tired of "Himbos", so mutual friends set us up because they knew I could match her, intellectually.

You'd be surprised how forgiving young women can be about things like age if an older guy can hit the right notes.

[–]Americasballs 16ポイント17ポイント  (15子コメント)

Fuck, really have to work on my cold approach game. I'm 24, and I feel like that's the #1 thing holding me back, all other aspects of life are firing on all cylinders.

[–]corsega 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Daygame is great because not many guys do it anymore (they are all stuck to their phones Tindering and Bumbling) so girls don't often get approached during the day.

A lot of times it comes down to dumb luck. When a hot girl moves to the area, word gets around and if you happen to be the first guy that gets to her before she has a lot of options, you're in.

I'm currently seeing the most attractive girl I have been with in my life, a Turkish 8. I approached her on the street after she was looking at an apartment, about to move to my city (not very high talent level, legitimately one of the most attractive women I have ever seen walking around in two and a half years).

Turns out she is introverted and doesn't have many friends. She loves having an American guy who can show her around the area (and fuck her too, apparently). You're not going to find this type of girl out at a club or on Tinder.

I'm shooting way above my weight so I'm kind of counting down the days until she finds a new Chad. Vasiliy hits the nail on the head with expect nothing long-term.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

A lot of times it comes down to dumb luck.

Yep. But the more you day game, the "luckier" you will get. Fish don't just swim up and jump into the boat.

Turns out she is introverted and doesn't have many friends.

Bingo. Tall girls and introverts. That's my wheelhouse.

Vasiliy hits the nail on the head with expect nothing long-term.

Enjoy the ride. Never be the clingy loser who can't let go when the time comes. Stick the dismount and on to the next one.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

What are you afraid of? Some half-naked, 110 pound woman? So what if she says no? One down, 3.5 billion to go....

[–]RedPistola 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Do you get rejected plenty? Do you smile and walk away?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's funny, in recent years, I have seen guys not only get rejected, but it seems like the girl has to go out of her way to be nasty about it.

That doesn't happen to me, generally. Maybe it's my age, maybe it's my gravitas, who knows. But it's not like I'm closing 100% of the time. Some girls have boyfriends--or say they do. Fine, I'm on to the next one. Think horizontally, not vertically The last time I got denied that I specifically remember was an FA who was pretty warm to me, to the point where my seat mate, who I did not know, felt compelled to point it out. Anyway, I asked for digits and got...her email. When a girl gives you her email instead of her number, it's a bad sign, so I thought, "I'm toast" and then mentally moved on to the next prospect.

As far as smiling and walking away, I handle my business like a man. If a girl is polite to me, I will be also.

The larger point here is, if you want to succeed, you have to improve, approach and then approach some more. You have nothing to lose and a lot to gain.

[–]illicitwit 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Think horizontally, not vertically

Could you expand on this VZ?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys go wrong when the keep investing in that One Special Girl. They keep doubling down and doubling down and, eventually the "win" the right to be her Orbiter-in-Chief.

Thinking "horizontally" means to not over-invest in The One, but to do multiple approaches and find the best situations for you.

[–]CQC3 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

LOL. We all wish 3.5 billion women looked even remotely that good. I get what you're saying though. When your goal is fucking instead of all the mushy or contextual masturbation that comes with getting with girls (especially in the BP mindset), it's a lot easier to just move on if one prospect isn't working out.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course. But men are the Gatekeepers of Commitment. Put another way, Approaching is Your Superpower. You must develop it.

[–]GoblinKnight 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you think you can make a post on approaching?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's simple:

A. Work on improving yourself per TRP. Be the best version of you that you can be.

B. Turn your computer off and go outside.

C. Go up to a woman you would like to meet and say some version of "Hey there. I'm 'GoblinKnight'. What's your name?" Try it with a hint of impishness.

D. Proceed from there. Ask open ended questions. One way would be to say, "So, {name}, tell me your story...." Then chose some of the interesting bits to follow up on.

E. Work in the interesting bits about yourself.

Proceed from there.

[–]boredepression -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Approaching is your superpower. You must develop it."

My new goal: Approach Superpowers.

2 goals Done! 2 goals nearing completion! 3 goals in progress 1 new now!

[–]Ifuckinglovepron 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because you are 24.

You just haven't done it long enough to become the DGAF attitude rather than displaying it. Nothing wrong with that at all, just something that only really comes with repetition and experience.

Just fucking go for it. And then again, and again after.

[–]Mr_Andry 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That girl wants to meet me

Damn I love little mantra gems like this.

[–]standardoil2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

as do I, have you any more?

[–]sehns 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

As far as online options go you can flaunt your wealth and your best photos of yourself on Instagram and DM models but i get mixed results.. There's a messaging app called Alua i've been using that has a bunch of smoking hot Instagram babes in there (example: https://www.instagram.com/scarlettmorganofficial/?hl=en check the bio)- it's pay to play though. The girls get a share of the profits from the chumps that pay to chat them up and are highly responsive. It's like tinder/snapchat for rich dudes. If you have cash to throw around and know what you're doing and look good it doesn't take long before you're swapping snapchat/phone numbers and lining up a meet. Yeah, paying a chick to chat with you is bluepill blah blah blah but we all pay in the end. If you're like me with a lot of money and not much time this shit as well as the sugar daddy sites is a very easy way to get model plates. The big secret is that you can meet them and fuck them without paying for anything other than dinner.

[–]Mr_Andry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not BP as long as you know what the deal is and have rational pro/con understanding. You have to know how to handle chicks who are motivated to talk to you purely by small cash deposits, and how to convert.

[–]TheRedWay 5ポイント6ポイント  (21子コメント)

Did you always date women of that caliber, or was it working through the TRP process that got you there?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 28ポイント29ポイント  (15子コメント)

I had some advantages: 6'2", white, but some disadvantages also: I look like I break legs for a living.

The world was different when I was younger; the internet was called the "Encyclopedia Britannica" and nobody was confused about which bathroom they were supposed to use.

OTOH, there wasn't any place I could go, read the sidebar and get an education in an hour and a half.

Anyway, when you get older you will be amazed how easy it is. You might want to look at my "How to be an Old Guy" article for more info.

[–]1awalt_cupcake 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

For members reading this, I'm 6'2 and white and HAD NO GAME before TRP. You can say no fair all you want but in the end no one showed me how to properly be a man. I ended up 'the gentle giant' or 'fun clown' type. Draws women in and makes them run for the hills in an instant. Game is mostly everything.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

The problem a lot of guys have is they want to find excuses for why they don't succeed. "I'm short" or "I'm non-white". Sure, those guys have a few more hurdles to get over than you and I do, but we still have 99 hurdles to their 102.

[–]ddelicia -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm mixed ethnicity (asian/black) and I slay pussy regularly and that's okay, but I realize I could pursue 8's and 9's with much ease had I been born white. White people don't realize their inherent privileges just for being white.

[–]Sdom1 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh God, just shut the fuck up with the privilege bullshit already. There are plenty of places where the sheer exoticism of a black/asian mix would give you an advantage over the white guys those girls have been fucking for years.

This is just ego-protective bullshit on your part to be a hidden king in your own mind. "Why, if I was born white I'd be a millionaire/fucking 9's/a leader." You're just excusing not having what you want, not being where you want to be. Newsflash - the vast majority of white guys don't have these things.

And of course this way of thinking comes with its own built-in defense mechanism: "well how would you know what I go through bla bla bla you have no idea how raw my pussy gets" and so on and so forth. Check this out - I've been beaten up by a group of people due to my race. No girl has ever fucked me because I was white. Nobody has ever given me a job because I was white. I don't bitch about this shit, I just get on with my day. Do the same.

[–]phohunna 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thank you for your contributions, they have been incredibly helpful for me going into my 3rd year of college. I only picked TRP up about halfway through second year and I have already seen a big difference.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

I only picked TRP up about halfway through second year and I have already seen a big difference.

Yeah, you're only WAY FUCKING AHEAD of 99% of everyone else. Keep your grades up. And go read my articles on interviewing and negotiating salary. You'll be glad you did.

[–]phohunna 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thank you, I red the interviewing one which was excellent. Can't wait to read the others. I have a strong GPA (business), on a varsity sports team, and on the executive team of an economics case conference. Any advice on how to leverage that, and general tips for going into my last two years? Thanks for being generous with your time.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Crush it on your GPA. That is your NUMBER ONE JOB at uni. If you have some electives, pick up a language. I'd say Spanish, Brazilian or Russian, depending on which flavor of pussy you like. Audit if you such at languages and are afraid it will fuck up your GPA.

Alternatively, pick up a phys ed course in golf or SCUBA or something else you might be interested in. If I could change one thing along those lines, I would learn how to play golf. A SHIT-TON of deals get done on the golf course. You have two years to learn it and it will never be easier for you.

[–]phohunna 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm actually on the varsity golf team and played competitively since I was 15, so got that covered! At my job this summer I've jokingly told my boss I'll play for him at the company tournaments because he's shit at golf, and would give me a chance to meet upper management.

I'm going to Germany on exchange in the spring, so I'm loading up my fall electives with core courses in economics so I can have more time to travel on exchange (exchange credits don't count towards GPA). Hoping to get new experiences.

Thanks again for your advice. I have always liked the Boston area, would that be a good place to start a career?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sounds like you have your shit together.

I have always liked the Boston area, would that be a good place to start a career?

All things being equal, why not NYC? I mean if you get your dream job in Boston, or you're from Boston or spent a lot of time there, fine, but (a) NYC is the motherfucking Capital of the Known Universe and (b) It's way less uptight than Boston.

But do what's right for you.

[–]phohunna 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Living expenses are really high, and most of the new-grad jobs are in a finance role, which isn't what I'm looking for unless it's in an analytics area (like AMEX or other financial services).

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, like I said, do what's right for you.

[–]BleauGumms 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mid 40s, White, look like a muscled up rock star (long curly hair and beard). Can't keep the young 20-somethings away. I never would have thought being mid-40s would be like this, but there it is. I attribute it to my laid back, don't give a shit what you think attitude and I tell them what I want and when I want it. Works like a champ.

Guys in their 20s must be some major pussies.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I attribute it to my laid back, don't give a shit what you think attitude and I tell them what I want and when I want it.

If I had a nickel for every time a girl gushed about my confidence, I'd...have a lot of nickels. The older guy-younger woman dynamic is just different.

Guys in their 20s must be some major pussies.

A lot of them don't have dads and the cultural zeitgeist at the moment is really, really full of man-hate.

I feel slightly worse for the women, who are fed lies and bullshit either about how they "don't NEED no man", and they waste their most marriageable years in some useless HR or Marketing job then wake up at 30 and wonder why they aren't married with kids like their uteruses are telling them they WANT to be.

Why they don't realize that the the women giving them this bad advice are all fugly, post-Wall, cat colonists living in one bedroom flats--or people profiting from them--is beyond me....

[–]Sdom1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys in their 20s must be some major pussies.

Kind of, but that's not really what's going on.

The older guy-younger woman dynamic is just different.

Yep. As a man, age brings us gravitas that you simply can't attain when you're 25. You still look like a kid at that age. So, if you're 45, confident, and have the outer hallmarks of success, that projects power to women. And as we all know women looooove power.

[–]PissedPajamas 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

no one's born into dating models. You've gotta have a grasp on TRP even if you don't know it by name once you start dating 10's

[–]1max_peenor -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just want to though this into the bin. Note that features that look good on film don't always translate to features that look good in person. It has been my experience that most models are models because they spend insane amounts on a presentation which suits their medium. Once you strip it away, they often aren't that pleasing.

That said, they do bring status to the table. Having a reputation with one or more of them will do wonders for your SMV with other women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Once you strip it away, they often aren't that pleasing.

Depends on the girl. I used to know a runway model who would go from a 10 to an 8 after you took away all the shit they did to her. The Euro chick who became a coke fiend was a Rock Solid 10 from the time she got out of bed to the the moment her head hit the pillow. A swimsuit model I tap on the regular is an 8.5 all the time, and another one is a 9 in person, but the camera fucking makes love to her. So it varies.

EDIT: It occurs that my 8.5 is probably other guys 9.5, because I'm jaded like that. /shrugs.

[–]standardoil2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

EDIT: It occurs that my 8.5 is probably other guys 9.5, because I'm jaded like that. /shrugs.

haha that's quite a pretentious statement

[–]Kyle2166 3ポイント4ポイント  (18子コメント)

Definitely saving this.

Quick question though, how tall are you and what do you do? Just want to get an idea of the type of guy who rails models every weekend is like.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (17子コメント)

I'm 6'2" and white, but as I noted, I am not a good-looking man at all. On my best days, I'm just barely "average" with a steep slant towards "scary". I work as a lawyer and businessman, but I fucked off from the office long ago so I chill back at my house, aka "Stately Wayne Manor" as friends of mine sometimes call it.

A word about my lifestyle: There's nothing "DiCaprio" or "Pitt" about me. I'm not really a "models & bottles" guy in clubs. What I did do: I put together a nice stash, and I improved myself. I made myself "exceptional" in a couple of ways--ex. I front my own band. Chicks dig that. But I also have zero approach fear (I'm a natural extrovert), so it's not just scooping up pussy at our gigs (although, in fairness, it does help that I have a couple of our songs on my phone).

So some guys are going to hear "six-two, white, in a band" and say "oh, well, no fair", but really, there's nothing I did that other guys couldn't do, too. That's why I'm here, to show you guys the path up to the mountaintop.

[–]phohunna 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

What do you find is the most natural way to open a conversation with a random? I think this is the biggest hurdle that's holding me back.

[–]TheWizardofBaghdad 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Go outside and find out for yourself

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

This.

You have to go shag the fly balls. There's no getting around it.

[–]standardoil2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha what's that actually mean, shag the fly balls

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

What do you find is the most natural way to open a conversation with a random?

"Hey, sweetheart. My name is Vasiliy. What's your name?"

[–]htbf 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Do you ever even try to find out if they have a boyfriend ?

Also, what if there is nothing exceptional about you ?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Do you ever even try to find out if they have a boyfriend ?

Never find reasons for a girl not to fuck you. Let them do that.

Also, what if there is nothing exceptional about you ?

Hmm. If only there was a website that was all about helping guys improve themselves, and giving them the tools to do it....

[–]jazerac 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never find reasons for a girl not to fuck you. Let them do that.

Wow, I finally understand what that means now. Thanks.

[–]htbf 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Do you honestly believe that being in shape, having a job and spinning a few plates makes you exceptional enough in the context of a conversation that just started ? While it does put you in the top 10%, it's not like you can actually say this stuff to her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey, look, you can talk yourself out of anything. If you want to find reasons to fail, go ahead. I will find reasons to succeed.

[–]LosingMoneyAllDay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Winning mentality. Thanks for the post Vas!

[–]kinklianekoff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

she puts you in the top 20% before you even open your mouth, the top 10% by even trying and top 0.01% after a couple of minutes of gaming.

[–]Luckyluke23 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

So some guys are going to hear "six-two, white, in a band" and say "oh, well, no fair", but really, there's nothing I did that other guys couldn't do, too. That's why I'm here, to show you guys the path up to the mountaintop.

it's not like you didn't have to put in work too. everyone does, only we see the results ( your opening post) and not the hard work.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

As I say to guys I do deals with--and if there's a deal with a lot of problems, I'm the guy you want working on it (where I work)--what I do isn't easy, I just make it look easy. Same here.

[–]standardoil2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

what's your age? i'm mid 20s and just hooked up with a 19. not sure if that's normal but i love it

[–]drallcom3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

But I also have zero approach fear

That doesn't go for most guys. I for example are hesitant because I never have anything cool to say and let's face it, it's your job to lead the conversation. Since you don't have a problem with it it makes your advice, as good as it is and I liked the read, a bit useless for guys who aren't total naturals.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I liked the read, a bit useless for guys who aren't total naturals.

Do you think I started out being Mr. Smooth? It takes practice.

[–]the_myriad_truths 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

was hoping this was going to be a scientific analysis on different 'models' of dating lmbo

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry man. I'm an "Edgelord" not a "Sperglord". /grin

[–]king_of_red_alphas 11ポイント12ポイント  (20子コメント)

While this and other FR's are nice they are basically humblebrags until you start discussing what you actually had to OVERCOME to get to this point. Otherwise, you are just a natural who bangs models and your only "problem" is keeping the models you are already banging in line.

If you are 6'2, Caucasian and front a band, and a "natural" extrovert, you aren't overcoming all that much.

I get that this is a useful write-up for Chads, but you should clarify that this isn't about advanced game. This is Thundercock level Plate Management.

How many guys on TRP are really going to reach this level.

Posts like these imply that a 5'2 Indian guy who speaks with a thick accent and thinks he's "edgy" because he listens to trap can go and start chatting up a blonde model on her lunch break and "treat her like a bratty sister" and generate tingles. ... Yeah. No.

[–]WeedDaddy 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Indian guy would be best served by heading to India, or wider Asia. Being an Asian is not a handicap there. It's a tall order to come to the West and expect to be treated like the host population.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

While this and other FR's are nice they are basically humblebrags

First, I'm not humble. Second, if I just wanted validation, I'd get an Instagram account.

until you start discussing what you actually had to OVERCOME to get to this point.

If only there was a website that taught self-improvement?! It would be great if it had a sidebar, too, where guys could learn and internalize important stuff.

If you are 6'2, Caucasian and front a band, and a "natural" extrovert, you aren't overcoming all that much.

Except I didn't pop out of my mom's womb with a guitar in one hand and a mic in the other. I didn't always front a band. And aside from being tall and white, I'm simply not very handsome. I have that shitty ruddy skin with some mild rosacea--the Curse of the Celts. My dad's side of the family, there, NOT fucking helping. And even a natural extrovert still has to learn Game. /shrugs.

Posts like these imply that a 5'2 Indian guy who speaks with a thick accent and thinks he's "edgy" because he listens to trap can go and start chatting up a blonde model on her lunch break and "treat her like a bratty sister" and generate tingles.

We did fairly recently have a dude in a wheelchair bang an "8" (his description). You can see limitations or you can see opportunities. The 5'2" Indian guy is going to have to hustle out a lot of grounders and improve like a motherfucker. Maybe he never bangs a model, but he can become the best version of himself.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's true that you needed the discipline to become a good enough musician to front a band. I should not have implied you didn't work for anything that gets you results.

But your post is about as helpful as a guy going on a forum for a bunch of 5'2 guys learning how to play HORSE and talking about how to make the most spectacular dunks without hurting your hands.

Sure, there is your 1-in-10,000 Nate Robinson at 5'9 dunking over Shaq, but it's selling a pipe dream to most

"Managing multiple model plates" is a solution to a problem very very few people here have or will ever have.

All that said, if anybody ever finds themselves dating multiple 9-10 models, congratulations you've basically "won" TRP.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

First, bear in mind that this post originated because I was answering a particular questions three times in askTRP.

Second, the advice is applicable to guys who are dating "up" in SMV, whether it's the hometown honey or some rando that he met at the right time.

Third, you keep bringing up 5'2" Indians. Is that you or just the worst example you could think of?

Because basically, no matter who you are, you have two choices in life:

A. Out-work, out-hustle and out-smart whatever your problems are, or

B. Quit, go home, smoke up, whine about how life dealt you a shitty hand or whatever, then kill yourself.

If I was a 5'2" Indian guy, I'd try to be Kiran Shah or Deep Roy. They both have had pretty decent film careers, despite being 4'2" and 4"4, respectively.

Now, you can say "not everybody...", blah, blah. Failing is easy. Succeeding is difficult. Choose one.

[–]Luckyluke23 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

The 5'2" Indian guy is going to have to hustle out a lot of grounders and improve like a motherfucker. Maybe he never bangs a model, but he can become the best version of himself.

in your opinion, by "hustle" do you mean " putting in the work so the person can have more experience and change his internal view of himself" or?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Both. A guy in that situation can either curse his limitations, or work hard to overcome them.

[–]El_Diablito 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was actually an Indian-American guy who was a 5' 3" doctor who felt that nobody took him seriously because of his height. He underwent this procedure where they basically break both of your legs in two places and attach support rods which he'd have to turn everyday to pull his bones apart as he healed. He did this twice and spent 6 months in bed each time and said that it hurt like hell, especially when he had to turn the rod to pull his bones.

However, when everything was said and done he ended up about 5' 10" and he said that it completely changed his professional, personal and social life. I'm not saying that this is advisable but as you said a guy can work hard to overcome his limitations if he wanted.

[–]hores 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

How many guys on TRP are really going to reach this level.

Posts like these imply that a 5'2 Indian guy who speaks with a thick accent and thinks he's "edgy" because he listens to trap can go and start chatting up a blonde model on her lunch break and "treat her like a bratty sister" and generate tingles. ... Yeah. No.

Chances are good that he won't, but the difference between him and millions of others is that he actually tried. Not trying is the real failure. It's all in your mentality.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

This I agree with, but the OP was not speaking about aspiration, he was talking about how many models he's banging and how great his game is when in reality his "game" consists of fronting a band and being an extrovert (they kind of go together right?)

In any case, some things like approaching models when you ha e low SMV can be counter productive to your journey to become outcome independent.

Too many guys look at this as the ultimate dream and think of themselves as failures if they are unable to reach a point where they are banging models at will.

[–]hores 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hear what you're saying.

At the end of the day, I guess what matters is what each person really desires. If a dude truly desires hot ass chicks, but uses excuses to explain away the fact that he doesn't have any, then he's really not being truthful to himself.

[–]dianaballer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not all posts are for beginners

[–]Lsegundo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Stop your fucking whining (I say this to myself some days too) there are plenty of people with a bigger mountain to climb kicking more ass than you.

You might never bang models. Are you the best man that you can be? Do you think working hard on yourself that you will get better and more women than you do now?

You have to work your way up at anything you do. A future olympic weight lifter who tried to go for a record lift that was double his current max would hurt himself. F1 drivers usually start off with slower cars and work their way up.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not lamenting not banging models nor am I suggesting anybody not improve themselves as much as possible.

I was calling out posts (not even necessarily this one) that are RP fan fiction / bragging with little useful info.

In any case, the point has been made that there ARE members who are in positions to use this particular info. I realize that.

I was simply saying how much more useful posts like these would be with a broader context and backstory (I.e. Stories of trial and error / failure / etc).

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here's the thing bro. The Red Pill is an elitist anti egalitarian ideology. That's why we have classifications like Alpha Beta. That's why The Red Pill uses the word Equalist with a negative connotation. That's why The Red Pill flirts with the Alt Right.

If you are a fucking 5'2 Indian Beta who thinks there is no hope for himself. Maybe you are right?

In which case why the fuck should I or anyone else waste our time helping a lost cause? About 20 dudes PM me a day. I cant help everyone I don't have time. The obvious thing to do is to help the dudes that can be helped.

Not only is skyping Brad the 18 year old Marine more enjoyable than diving into Kadouches Indian Depression Saga but its more rewarding because Brad will actually put your advice into action.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reason it needs to be called out is because the implication that "anyone can do it if he's alpha enough!" That's simply not true.

If you don't have the physical attributes that go along with what a model wants to be seen with you are SOL.

Brad the marine is easier to work with because he is essentially in need of fine tuning bad not a complete genetic makeover. He had a chance of being Ivana or Chloe's fuckboy.

Looks matter. Race matters. Stop trying to sell people on pipe dreams like banging models and get realistic about this shit.

Encourage people to be the best they can be. Don't post RP fantasy fiction to show how alpha you are.

This hypothetical short Indian guy may not be fucking runway models but he sure as shit can lift, dress properly, learn a skill, learn to be cool and fun and do just fine with women above his SMV.

Anyway. I acknowledge that I was just calling out a post to be something it was never intended to be. I reacted like a bitch. Thank you very much.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with you completely. Not everyone has what it takes. Which is why they should get the fuck out of the way, shut up and unsubscribe so that the dudes who do have potential can get the attention that they deserve.

We can talk about Darwinistic Biological determinism, Fate or the divine will of God. Their all the same really. Some people are destined for greatness and others aren't.

[–]ronsoness 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

also, if you date a model, you will be the envy of all your male friends and other men will view you in a better light.

my question is this: a model is one of the greatest challenges out there due to the fact that they will have the highest standards and greatest resistances. what skills do you think a person needs to have developed before trying to go after a model w/ hope of success? thank you unco V

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

what skills do you think a person needs to have developed before trying to go after a model w/ hope of success?

Girls are simply girls. There are some models, or shall we just say really attractive women, who put up the "bitch shield" and then there are others who are total nerd girls trapped in model bodies.

The skills you need are skill at approaching. You also need game. And you're going to fail more often than you succeed, because that's how that shit works. That's why I approach like a motherfucker.

[–]ronsoness 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

thank you. do you have a website or a book?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Nope. Whatever wisdom I have gained in life is the product of long and difficult experience, but for you guys it's free. I put it out on the web in the hopes that it helps younger guys. Because all the young men are my sons.

[–]ronsoness 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

well thank you. i appreciate your older male mentor vibe. i've only recently understood how important those are and how important they will be for me to be the man i need to be.

if you don't have a collection of writings, do you have a strong recommendation for developing game, book-wise?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was just a post on this here, I think.

First, the No. 1 thing is not "books" it's going out into the field and Talking.To.Girls.

Beyond that I read Rollo, Heartiste and Dalrock. For books, there is The Book of Pook, Bonecracker, and SGM...and Mark Manson's books.

[–]Lsegundo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you VasiliyZaitzev. You are one of my favorite posters on here. You are like a TRP coach who lays out the path then challenges you to push yourself down it.

[–]RissyQuicks 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

everything you say kind of makes you sound like a douche but i like your style

[–]Hang10Dude 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Again, just wanted to say thank you Vasily. This is the reason I come here. I don't give a fuck about divorce court and feminism. I just want to fuck hot girls.

[–]AutisticusMaximus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for posting, interestingly, majority of your points can and should be applied to gaming women in general, not just models.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, pretty much, although bear in mind that this post originated from seeing the same question in askTRP three times, so that's why it's more specific.

[–]enkae7317 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Saved. Favorited.

Thanks Bro you have the wisdom of a 80 year old Buddha monk...that specializes in fucking hot women.

[–]jamesbond0512 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wheres the coke? tried four dealers. All suck ass

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm high on life, man. These days, I have a couple of glasses of red wine and call it good.

[–]LucasOFF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Давай Васян показывай кого выебал

[–]TRP_Lee_zard 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's shit like that when I realize that I have no game what so ever.

I'm like a kid on a trike looking at Michael Schumacher or Lewis Hamillton.

And I have to admit, this is a bit discouraging for me.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And I have to admit, this is a bit discouraging for me.

But the kid who looks at Schumacher and Hamilton sees what's possible.

[–]420purpleunicorn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not a model, intelligent red pill woman. can confirm. this is how it is. If you're not a challenge, you've got no chance.

[–]Frigzy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Masterful guide Vasiliy.

I am wondering though. I'm an introvereted intuitive and caring kind of guy with zero experience telling girls what to do or bossing them around. Through TRP I'm dipping my toes into it a little, but points like this one:

-You ARE the Boss of Her. You take NONE of her shit. It's like catnip for them. You impose your will. One told me she was going to get a tattoo--because really, go ruin yourself to show how edgy you are. So I told the ONLY tat she was allowed to have was a tramp stamp that read "PROPERTY OF: VASILIY ZAITZEV". She giggled, and loved it.

are easy to understand but immeasurably hard for me to do because as of yet I have zero experience with it and just don't seem to be able to feel like it is the way I want to lead my relationships with women, or people in general.

What I must note, is that the more I lift, work on myself, become centered through meditation and self discovery and figure out my own fulfillment and general amusement with life, I am feeling more and more worthy (superiority?), to the extent that the kind of 'leadership' mentioned above becomes more natural.

However, right now, this simply strikes me as condescending and regarding them as a generally inferior human being.

Is it correct to say that a relationship with a (perhaps not with introverts) HB9 is always going to be one where you can not allow yourself to think of her as an equal?

Edit: On second thought I guess the relationship can be described as a pseudo father-daughter relationship where the father is infinitely more knowledgable, wise and powerful. So that implies there can be love and compassion, however there can never be equality.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bear in mind that I am significantly older than my target demographic, thus will have vastly more life experience. Sure, there are going to be things they know about that I don't but on the whole, I will have a tremendous informational advantage about Life, And How To Cope With It.

[–]PatrickIIDX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good read. I am still a beta struggling to evolve to alpha. I always asked my ex-girlfriend if she wanted to hang out. All she did was used me for rides to buy shit from Walmart, and using her mental health issues as an excuse to be a bitch. I only dated her for a week after we fucked, then dumped her when she was expecting me to take her home which was an hour away from where she was staying. It took that relationship to realize how much of a beta I actually am. Now I have to be more comfortable with re-masculating.

[–]aanarchist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

pros- a lot of them are totally cool cons- narcissism, entitlement and whiney

?????????

you know what really helps take a model off her pedestal, is realize that she takes massive nasty dumps just like any man who's had too much taco bell. there's a whole genre of porn dedicated to showing men that women are full of shit just like we are, even the super hot ones.

either way it's not worth the energy wasted keeping her interested, there's so much more worthwhile shit to do. if she can't keep me interested beyond the humps on her ass i'm not gonna have that much fun.

[–]rp_js 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So much content on here is extremely diluted now but articles like this are why I keep on coming back. we need less red pill articles, but more quality ones.

[–]ANewJourney[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would you expand on the conversation when, 'they all laughed when I treated her like a tardy child'? Thanks for your time and your post.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the girl in question had just said something sort-of dumb and I looked at her and said, "Y'know, you're lucky you're so pretty."

[–]Hakametal 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh God, I think I dated one of these. Wasn't a model, but was a solid 8-9. Slovenian, tall, blonde, blue eyes and INSECURE.

It was a fucking nightmare at times. I had just swallowed TRP at the time and didn't know how to deal with these types of chicks. Getting her to submit was so hard and took a lot of effort compared to normal chicks, but when she did she purred like a kitten and fucked like an animal.

Lo and behold she DESTROYED my frame and I went back into beta mode. She went ice cold and ended up with Chad a week later. Learned soooo much from the experience, even though it destroyed my masculine core for 2 months after.

Vasiliy's advice on having an INDUSTRIAL STEEL FRAME is the most important thing to take from this I believe. Beautiful narcissists are toxic people to be around in the long run will bring you to your knees if your frame is not rock fucking solid.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would suggest avoiding overly narcissistic girls, even if they're hot.

Actually, not a bad idea to avoid narcissists, generally.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you uncle. When I start banging models it'll be thanks to you

[–]enjoytheloss2 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the guide. Most of it makes sense for a semi-advanced destroyer of women like myself.

Share your thoughts on this, though:

I've cranked up my filters to the point where only submissive, 'please put the handcuffs on me daddy' girls qualify to spend time with me. It allows me to drop 90% of women I talk to and saves me tons of time/effort.

Do you have similar levels of filtering or do you enjoy the challenge of trying to game a larger percentage of women who need to be guided/gamed/coddled past their bitch shields - at which point they would be pleasant and submissive?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you have similar levels of filtering or do you enjoy the challenge of trying to game a larger percentage of women who need to be guided/gamed/coddled past their bitch shields - at which point they would be pleasant and submissive?

As the guy who literally wrote the TRP guide to submissive girls and tying girls up I know what I like and I'm pretty up front about it with women I date/mate/plate. Since I present as a tall, confident, dominant, intelligent guy who is something of a bruiser, girls self-select in or out depending on if they want a masculine guy or not. Those that do find themselves blindfolded and tangled in my ropes; those that don't go find some little Timmy HalfaFag.

[–]Vicycle 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

"and tracked her like he was working for NORAD." God damn almost spit out my drink reading that. Great read.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was funny to watch. The guy stood up and peeled off his sunglasses like he was in slo-mo, entirely oblivious to anything else for a good 30 seconds. Then he caught sight of me and WHAM! came crashing down to Earth.

[–]SW9876 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Really great post. I have one question though. How would you go about opening/cold approaching?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Walk up to the girl you want to talk to. Introduce yourself. Ask her name. Start your rap.

I realize that, for most guys, it's easier said than done. But really, there is no magic.

[–]SW9876 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was just wondering if there was anything special about approaching "10s" since I imagine they get approached way more frequently than the average girl.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I imagine they get approached way more frequently than the average girl.

Actually, IME, it's quite the opposite. Lots of guys are intimidated and thus 10s are often less likely to be approached. Me, I swing for the gawddam fences. The answer is "no" unless you ask, so you have nothing to lose.

Some years ago, Ashley Judd (she was pre-Wall and well regarded in those days) said in ant interview that her boyfriend was her boyfriend because he was the only man who approached her in 2 years. Think that over for a second. Now, I have no idea why it evidently never occurred to her to approach guys, or to ask people to set her up, but anyway, that's what she said. /shrugs

[–]Sephar 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've heard this, as well. I'm not sure if this is true. As you've said; your girl would get lots of business cards from guys who were interested in her--was she being approached a lot?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

not sure if this is true. As you've said; your girl would get lots of business cards from guys who were interested in her--wa

Depends on the venue. The business card thing has happened a handful of times over a few decades. The difference is, guys who won't approach a hot chick on their own see an "average" looking guy with her and think "Why not me?"

[–]StinkyDogFarts 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"there is a beginning and an end, enjoy the middle" these are very wise words. If you understand it will end, your leverage goes through the roof. They aren't used to used to being told to fuck off.

[–]Toker95 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm real curious to know how tou look OP. And what ever happened to that European chick after that?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm real curious to know how tou look OP.

Like ten miles of bad road. Any advantages I have stop with tall and white. The fact is I'm too white. I wear a full beard in part to add some color to my face. I am a bit asymmetrical in the face and have a nose that points 15 degrees off in another direction, largely because I've broken it 3 times. Note to Self: Get in a fight with a left-handed guy, next time.

And what ever happened to that European chick after that?

I'm sure she got passed around. Beyond that, I don't know. She made her choices and I made mine. Her family situation wasn't great in that her mom didn't work and then her dad got injured and didn't work so she was the only one bringing in any cash. Then her mom, who was a bitter meddling cunt, would always be up her ass about how she should be doing something else, like finishing up her schooling. She would argue with mom about and say, "Look, I'm the only one bringing in any money, and after a few years I won't be able to do this work anymore." Then her mum would still nag her, anyway, because that's what bitter, irritable cunts do.

Me: "Don't argue with her. Just say 'ok' and then go do what you want to do anyway."

Her: "THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MY DAD SAYS!"

Me: "He sounds very wise."

[–]note-to-self-bot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just in case you forgot:

Get in a fight with a left-handed guy, next time.

[–]Luckyluke23 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

i think this is the greatest post i have read on here and it has NOTHING to do with me at all.

what i mean by this is, I'm NO WHERE NEAR the level of fucking " models " yet, ( can't get a fattie from the club to pick up the phone ffs) but this post AND THE COMMENTS have so much value and i can't thank you enough for taking the time to do this.

I have a question:

I've been doing " game and trp" for 2 years now. I have become a more confident person in that time, but I haven't had much success.

I'm wondering what your thoughts are on longevity of game and specifically the notion of " a fat guy is only a fat guy if he THINKS he is a fat guy".

because i saw this comment you made

The 5'2" Indian guy is going to have to hustle out a lot of grounders and improve like a motherfucker. Maybe he never bangs a model, but he can become the best version of himself.

and I'm wondering

a) does the guy who isn't " brad pitt" have to do MORE game because he doesn't think he is bard pitt? (IE: by doing more game he will have more realizations and there for he will eventually think he is brad pit?)

b) right now, I'm struggling with self-esteem or rather the projection of myself onto the world. I don't see it as something positive i see it as something negative how can i change this around?

( i hope this makes scene i got a bit rambly there)

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Some fat guys can pull. Generally speaking, though, it's going to be easier for an in-shape guy to pull, all things being equal. So work on getting yourself into shape.

While I don't know anything about your personal circumstances, what it boils down to for most people is 20% exercise and 80% diet. Bottom Line: You can't outrun your fork and spoon. So start there, and get working on a program...just do SOMETHING and do it regularly (and hey, if you are the type of heavy guy who needs to consult a doctor before an exercise program, then by all means, do that.)

Your health will improve, you will look better and you will feel better and that will help your confidence.

[–]Luckyluke23 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

thanks for the tips man...

but this isn't the question i asked. it was more about mindset.

though good advice all around.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know. But I gave you the answer that I thought would do the most good.

[–]drallcom3 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm really interested in one point: How much money does this cost you in total? I have some friends who pull very hot girls, but even though they're naturals it ends up being expensive for them. Not like they care, they're rich. You're older and you probably have some disposable income.

Do you buy nicer cloths and dress up in general? I don't mean suits and stuff, just buying cloths that fit well and are above H&M.

Side question: Do you think your cloths play a significant part or could you do exactly as well in a t-shirt and jeans?

Do you pay all bills or do you strictly split the costs? This one interests me the most.

Do you take dates to nice (i.e. expensive) bars/restaurants or do you just pick some place cool?

Is your place nice? Here in London nice places are unaffordable.

It would help me a lot if you could answer those questions. I know that game is by far the most important, but still I need some truth here and you seem to be the perfect guy for some answers. Thanks!

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're older and you probably have some disposable income.

Yes.

Do you buy nicer cloths and dress up in general? I don't mean suits and stuff, just buying cloths that fit well and are above H&M.

Daily? No. Typically I wear a black t-shirt or polo (sometimes navy blue) and either jeans or chinos, and loafers. Typically I only suit up when I am at an event that requires jacket & tie in which case I have a couple of nice suits that I wear. I wore a tuxedo on NYE because I was at an event that required black tie. But on a daily basis, I opt for comfort.

Do you think your cloths play a significant part or could you do exactly as well in a t-shirt and jeans?

One can use clothes to stand out, I would imagine, but I really thing it's that second one. That said, London & NYC are going to have different dress codes than Miami and California.

Do you pay all bills or do you strictly split the costs? This one interests me the most.

It depends. Typically, I pick up the check, because I do the inviting. Generally speaking, the women I date and I are not "peers" when it comes to bank, because I'm older and more flush. If I was a young guy and the girls were on more of an equal footing with me maybe that would be different.

Do you take dates to nice (i.e. expensive) bars/restaurants or do you just pick some place cool?

I go where I want to go, and whichever girl I am with gets to come with me. Sometimes that's a Michelin three star place, and sometimes it's the nice bistro on the corner.

Is your place nice?

Yes.

[–]drallcom3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the detailed answer.

You're kind of like my richer friends then. Money makes such a big difference in dating younger women. Casually taking them to a place they can't afford is exciting and different for them, like you mentioned, and it displays tons of status. The more frugal options are only possible with certain types of women.

Do you think you'd have the same success at your age with an average income?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're kind of like my richer friends then.

Maybe now, but not before.

Money makes such a big difference in dating younger women.

Money is a force mutliplier in the right hands. In the wrong hands, not so much.

Do you think you'd have the same success at your age with an average income?

Assuming I had the same amount of Game, then yes, it would be comparable.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome post, and thanks for taking the time to write it. Lots of great info here. I'm going to re-read it, and the comments, in the morning.

"Never let a bitch run your shit. If you do, you’ve lost" I'm going to remember this, and live by it.

[–]RICCIedm 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You just forgot to mention that you can't negotiate attraction. I used to get worried "will I ever pick up models?". Now I just accept that until (if) I raise my SMV enough, I have to accept "lower" women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless otherwise noted, my material is advanced; I assume that everyone has read the sidebar.

[–]88Will88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love your work, you are far and away my favourite contributor here. Not that your wise words ever need any verification but I can definitely agree with all of the above. Before I comment I should note that I am very high status, tall, cocky, in shape and I live in a very cool cosmopolitan city. I say this not to brag but just so I so not have to listen the "yeah, bullshit" comments I have had in here before when I describe my adventures in life.

So much of what you say is bang on. I date/ bang a lot of models, or girls who are so hot they look like models. I am older so whenever I am out with them I get the all eyes on me thing. I can also confirm that as soon as you get up to go to the bathroom/ bar/ whatever that guys descend on these girls like seagulls on a chip. It really fucking annoys me because younger guys (I am over 50) assume they can just swoop in and take your girl(s).

I find it so annoying that these days I tend not to go out to trendy bars or restaurants with super hot girls for that reason alone. I just fuck them at their place, my place or in a hotel room. Hotels are great for avoiding the attention that banging a super hot model attracts. I recently banged these two euro girls, they were both 9s so it was just easier to be discreet. In a hotel you can have all the good stuff about going out bought up to the room (yes bring me two bottles of champagne, a medium rare eye fillet, and a load of fucking sushi and salad, oh and of course desert, models will not eat carbs but they eat desert, go figure).

Another rule I have is never promote a model plate above level 2 on the managing your bitches scale. No model is suitable relationship material, except one small exemption I will discuss below. They are man eaters, if you think normal women are fickle, try models out readers. These women literally have INFINITE choice with men. They are constantly chased, texted, facebooked, invited to every fucking event. They never do anything for themselves, there are a legion of dudes who will do anything for them just to get a return text.

Attempting to have any form of relationship (other than casual plate) with these girls is a no no. There is one exception though, if she is heavily damaged from her past. Now I am not talking your usual "he abused me" bullshit you hear from every girl on the planet, I am talking about serious psychological damage, generally major daddy issues. If you find one of these rare gems then it may be worth your while. Really damaged girls are looking for daddy, if you are man enough to completely own her ass then a short or long term relationship with a 9 or 10 is great. She will begin to dress very conservatively, she will develop this icy stare, all of her interactions with other guys will be limited to single word answers. She will have no interest in night clubs, socialising or buying expensive shit, she just wants to snuggle with you, hang on your every word and generally act in a very submissive (but needy) role.

[–]shitlordvaldemort 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of the big advantages of getting older is seeing how these women age. Here is a hint, it's not gracefully for most of them. I've dated plenty of promo models, a Perfect 10 magazine girl, strippers, and plenty of average cuties. The super hot girls I dated even 5 years ago are now 7's at best, and the ones who have had kids are more like 5's. Also, the juice is rarely worth the squeeze with the 9's and 10's. The amount of work it takes and the amount of bullshit you have to put up with from them and other people is exhausting, and you get tired of fucking them just like every other girl after a month or two. I'd much rather date a pleasant 7 or 8 and not have to constantly ward off a million thirsty fuckers and deal with non-stop shit tests.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time is the great equalizer.

Also, the juice is rarely worth the squeeze with the 9's and 10's.

That's why you have to qualify the hell out of a girl, no matter how hot she is.

[–]artjimmerson1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banging models is about how you look yourself. your hair style/quality, your skin quality and your jaw and facial bone development.

Make no mistake, i have done this for 10 years and approached more girls than everyone in this thread combined times 2.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Step one: start your own band and front it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rock & Roll was invented to get pussy. That said, I wasn't the front for years, but as a songwriter, I maybe did 8% of the songs. Then our singer left to go to Hollywood and after we auditioned a ton of guys who were either total assholes or who couldn't fucking sing, my bandmates basically told me one day, "You're the singer, now." I haven't looked back since.

[–]SW9876 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you share any of your songs? A recording from a show or something?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly, no. Because that would lead to doxxing. Maybe sometime in the future.

[–]AnythingForSuccess -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Extreme mental masturbation post. Nobody here is banging models, let us be real here. The only ones who are, are probably hot guys with status. Stop living in your fantasy world.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody here is banging models, let us be real here.

TRP has 160K+ subscribers, and, well, at least one of us is.

Stop living in your fantasy world.

Look, I'm here to help. You can either benefit from my experience or you can be all butthurt because you're unhappy with yourself. Your call.

[–]joxyfai 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've banged three models and that was before I found this subreddit. Get your head out of your ass and into the gym and maybe you'll enter the upper echelons.

[–]AnythingForSuccess 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, except that does not happen. Especially not on reddit of all places.

[–]alpha-secretase -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yo V/Z I have a sinking suspicion you're the guy behind WSP, just a hunch though haha. Dope post chief, submits are always on point and cool to read. Now if only you could write my textbooks.

[–]zephyrprime -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Never heard the word "smokeshow" before.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I picked it up from a trader I used to work with. I'm sure it's in Urban Dictionary.