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[–]intheyear3ooo 78ポイント79ポイント80ポイント 5時間前 (113子コメント)
Wow, unreal how entitled most the people in this thread are acting. When I was in high school I got caught playing Pokemon red and had my gameboy confiscated for the ENTIRE school year! Was I mad, hell ya, but I knew I deserved it. You are there to learn not to play fucking games, if that's your prerogative, just stay home, quit wasting everyone's time, and enjoy working minimum wage for the rest of your life. Seriously guys get your priorities straight comin here bitchin about your 'right' to Pokemon go is embarrassing.
[–]InvaderChin 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
the ENTIRE school year
I'm all for teachers confiscating contraband, but that's fucked up. That's the teacher power tripping and extending their authority to your weekend and after-school free time. That's not okay.
Also, playing games doesn't regulate you to a life of minimum wage. You need to turn your baby-boomer "back in mah day!" rage from a 12 down to about a 6.
[–]Sir_fappington1 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
My teacher took away my hotwheels car for the whole year in the 2nd grade and she didnt give it back :(
[–]Suq_Madiq_Beech 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
She is probably still playing with those bitchin' cool hotwheels right now.
[–]Yevrah_JararThere are literally dozens of us! 84ポイント85ポイント86ポイント 4時間前 (17子コメント)
Really? you think you deserved to be deprived of your gameboy for an ENTIRE YEAR because you played it in class once? I'm sorry that's some self-deprecating bullshit.
Pulling stuff like that is normal behavior in school, and if a teacher actually takes your property for a year then they have a real fucked up idea of what's appropriate discipline from a teacher.
If a kids gonna be punished that hard, it should be from their parent (teachers aren't there to torture kids).
[+]Pawn315 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21ポイント-20ポイント-19ポイント 3時間前 (16子コメント)
Normal behavior
Normal doesn't mean right, proper, or non-punishable.
Teachers aren't there to torture kids
Kids aren't there to play games.
I agree that a full year is too severe; there are laws and such about what is acceptable that say what is not to be done in terms of punishment, but outside of that it is the teacher's prerogative to punish students for a flagrant breach in behavior which is obviously distracting the student and probably distracting others.
[–]Yevrah_JararThere are literally dozens of us! 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 3時間前 (12子コメント)
Yeh of course kids should be punished for playing games in class. But the punishment needs to fit the crime. intheyear3ooo saying he deserved that level of punishment is what irked me.
Most people in high school have no idea what they want in life. So they play games and do what's fun, because it gives instant gratification.
If that leads to "working minimum wage" like intheyear3ooo says, then i'm pretty a lot more people would be working minimum wage.
[+]howlatthebeast スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 3時間前 (11子コメント)
I warned my son not to take his DS to school. He did anyway and the teacher confiscated it for a week. He whined about it. I backed the teacher up. I would have backed the teacher up if it had been the entire year. What is so hard about "don't take your DS to school"?
[–]Apolloshot 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
And that's your prerogative to agree with the teacher.
I think the argument here is if as a parent I literally cannot get back the game boy for months, well that's simply not legal in most places.
[–]Yevrah_JararThere are literally dozens of us! 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
Do you set rules for your son thinking he won't break any of them? Kids are going to break rules, and need to be punished when they do, hopefully they learn a lesson. It's your child and you should punish them how you see fit (within the confines of the law) but in my opinion taking a kids DS for a year isn't teaching them lesson. It's just plain mean.
I think a week is appropriate, but do you honestly think a year is? like really? A year is a long time for a child, and basically like saying " you screw up once and you don't deserve a second chance". How can they learn responsibility and maturity if they aren't given that second chance to improve on their past mistake?
Isn't that the point of all the rules to teach them maturity responsibility?
[–]DatapawWolfWTAdopt Vulpix Babies 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Exactly. Teachers are not there to punish. If a child is breaking the rules at school then it's the fault of the parents for not reinforcing the correct behavior and/or (properly) punishing the wrong behavior.
If I had a kid who had his DS taken away I would have goddamn well gone to that shitty school and taken it back, and letting them know that's not acceptable to hold my property.
Then I would have held the DS myself for some length of time. I'm not letting a school take over that role.
And as a side note, a year is essentially stealing. There's no guarantee that they'd actually be holding the property safely. None. It's also an extreme and pointless length of time, obviously.
[–]fluffyxsama 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
No guarantee they didn't just take it to give to their own shitty kids to play with for a year.
[–]DanglyTwanger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
No one tries to rebuttal your argument because they realize they are just shitty parents, LOL. I'm 20 and can say that people my age, a little older, and a little younger have had some shitty parents (with good ones in there, mine included).
[–]Dimplebean 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
So instead of taking a preemptive action as a parent, you forced the teacher to do your job? If you knew he needed to be warned about taking it to school, why not just take it from him in the morning and give it back when he got home from school?
[–]ambethia 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I think that's the difference between a good parent and a helicopter. Taking the device from the child prevents them from having the opportunity to make the choice to follow directions or not. Without this choice, it's difficult for them to learn to be responsible for their actions.
In this case, I agree with how /u/howlatthebeast handled it. The expectations were set, the child chose to go against, and faced consequences. If /u/howlatthebeast had opted to not back the teacher, what kind of message does that send to the child, what kind of example is set?
Also, the teacher didn't do the parents job. If it's against the school's policy for the kid to play a DS, it's the teachers job to enforce that. It's the parents job to reinforce the school's expectations for the child, which it sounds like, in this case, they did.
[–]typically_wrong 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
I'm not OP but I'll answer all the same. Agency. You have to give your kid the opportunity to make the right or wrong decision. That's important in life. Just making the decision for them is helicopter parenting and incredibly damaging.
Life doesn't hold your hand.
[–]Dimplebean 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I agree, to an extent. But parents also need to take action to stop their children from making "wrong" decisions in the first place. You don't give free agency to someone who isn't fully capable of understanding what it means. You wouldn't let your child make a choice between the right and wrong decision of what to eat for dinner, right? There's nothing wrong with a parent putting their foot down and not giving their child the chance to make every decision.
[–]typically_wrong 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I agree there's always context. But if the kid is old enough to have/be responsible for his own game system, I'm going to treat him in such a way that he's responsible for understanding when it's appropriate to use it.
Otherwise it would be something they'd have to request on-demand to use. Once I entrust you with something 100% of the time, I'm going to evaluate your decisions on how you treat it and act accordingly (and hopefully, appropriately).
That's the fun of parenting, there really isn't a right/wrong rulebook on how to do it. You don't get to find out how bad you fucked up until years later :)
[–]InvaderChin -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
What is so hard about "don't take your DS to school"?
Hey, you're the one that raised the idiot kid that can't figure out something that simple. Turn that righteous judgment back on yourself and ask yourself where you fucked up.
[–]InvaderChin -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
...Uh, yes it does. You don't punish someone for not putting toes out of line and behaving normally.
[+]Nitchiu2 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Government does it all the time. It's called taxes
[–]InvaderChin 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
That's not punishment. That's called "paying for the infrastructure you use every single day".
[–]sokoteur 81ポイント82ポイント83ポイント 4時間前 (56子コメント)
Your Game Boy was personal property, a teacher can't keep it past class: Unless you're saying that because you got caught, your parents confiscated it for the entire year. My middle school put out a note to parents asking them to remind the kids not play Game Boy during class. We were allowed to play during snack/lunch. If you got caught playing during class, you got detention and your parents had to come pick up the Game Boy. It was up to the parents to decide the punishment, not the teachers.
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[–]gaffaguy 53ポイント54ポイント55ポイント 3時間前 (13子コメント)
funny, my school lost in court after thinking the same as you.
Good times man, good times
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[–]ItsFunIfTheyRun 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
lmao your first and last case doesn't even talk about the duration of the confiscation
and only because of one outlier case that some judge ruled the way they did doesn't make it any less illegal
the school doesn't hold any power to lock away your personal property for longer than class when you were being disruptive with it
[–]DMann420Team Mod Disco Party Planner 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Please refrain from spamming comments.
If you feel your comment is "relevant to every comment" then rewrite it to address them all and post it as a parent comment, rather than copy / pasting it in response to every single comment.
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 3時間前 (9子コメント)
Source I am willing to bet they searched it, and got in trouble for that and not confiscating it.
[–]gaffaguy 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
the guy was over 18 and never signed the schools rules after turning 18
[–]Icreatedthisforyou -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Doesn't matter as a student he still has to follow the school rules.
Edit: Christ the children in this thread.
[http://blogs.lawyers.com/attorney/education-law/good-vibrations-a-case-law-update-on-cell-phones-in-schools-9429/](Summary of a couple cases that actually went to court regarding Cell Phone Confiscation in Schools.) Or for those not willing to read that.
Klump v. Nazareth Area School District 2006:
Background, a students phone was confiscated, while the phone was confiscated the student received a text message pertaining to a drug deal.
Result in favor of the student.
Why "The student's 4th amendment (search and seizure amendment) were violated, noting that although the district did have the right to seize the phone under school policy. They didn't have the right to access the information on the phone. Because the school had no justification for a search (seeing the text message) it was deemed an unreasonable search.
How this pertains to what I said: SCHOOLS CAN CONFISCATE PROPERTY, BUT THEY CANNOT SEARCH IT.
Kock v. Adams 2010
Background: Student had their phone confiscated and held onto it for TWO WEEKS.
Result: School Won.
Why: "The district has broad discretion to direct the operation of the schools, and that the courts have no power to interfere with school district decisions unless there is a "clear abuse" of that discretion." The school policy stated that phones would be confiscated and returned at the end of two weeks.
Price v. New York City Board of Education 2008
NYC board of education panned the possession of cell phones. Parents argued phones are a vital communication tool and needed for student safety.
Result: Court refused to overturn the districts ban.
Why: The district had a rational basis for implementing the policy (schools are legally allowed to implement policy that prevent distractions in the class room), the district was within its power to make the decision and the courts had no authority to interfere.
How this pertains to what I said: SCHOOLS CAN CONFISCATE PROPERTY IF IT IS DEEMED DISRUPTIVE TO THE CLASS ENVIRONMENT.
There are cases in California as well, they say the same thing. Schools can take and hold onto property they can't search it.
There are cases in Florida, guess what? Schools can take and hold onto property they can't search it (this one has a pretty high profile case.
Texas? SAME SHIT.
TL:DR Schools do have a legal right to confiscate your phone, or other electronic if they have the policy implemented. They are not allowed to search the device. Not liking what I said is not going to change that what I said was accurate and well supported.
[–]gaffaguy 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Europe different shit ? Im not from the US
[–]Icreatedthisforyou -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Then yes the rules could definitely be different.
[–]DavidCo23 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
It's funny that you're asking for source, but don't provide any for your own claims.
[–]AnswerIsSpeedforceYOU CANT LOCK UP THE VALOR 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
This is the 6-8th time ive seen this exact same post bro
[–]Lemixach -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm not for or against him since I haven't even done more than skim this chain of comments (TL;DR, not very interested) but it seems that he's reposting the same thing over and over again because people are downvoting/arguing against him without even reading his posts (which seemingly answers the questions) in the first place.
[–]PikachuHat 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 3時間前 (16子コメント)
Source?
They can take it while you remain on the property but as soon as you leave they legally have to give it back or it's theft.
http://www.youthlaw.co.nz/information/school/confiscations/
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 3時間前* (10子コメント)
New Zealand (and even then they are still allowed to take it for the full day).
Both the UK and the US what I said holds true.
Edit: Downvotes are not going to change the fact that his link is NZ and it is irrelevant to 99.99% of posters here. Edit: Christ the children in this thread.
[–]InvaderChin 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (9子コメント)
Not true in the US. Had many things taken for fucking around in class. Always got them back at the end of the day, or had to have my parents come in to get them back. You're talking out of your ass.
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[–]InvaderChin 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I never said schools can't confiscate property. I said that the property must be returned. Legally, the property belongs to the parents, not the minor.
"Christ, the people who don't fucking read in this thread".
Asshole.
[–]sciencekidster -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 2時間前 (6子コメント)
Went to a high school in the US. I had my laptop taken until the end of the semester.
[–]InvaderChin -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 2時間前 (5子コメント)
That's more an indicator of the tech culture at the time than anything else.
Back in the day, uneducated teachers thought an enterprising student could hack the school's sprinkler system to get out of a test or something because that's how they saw it work in late80s-to-mid90s cinema. They practically saw laptops as weapons.
[–]sciencekidster 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
I graduated from high school in 2013.
[–]InvaderChin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Well then that's just stupid.
[–]Icreatedthisforyou -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
[–]AnswerIsSpeedforceYOU CANT LOCK UP THE VALOR 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Dude I think your getting downvoted because you posted this over 5 times
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
[–]PikachuHat 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
So, like I said, they can take whatever but they have to give it back within a reasonable amount of time or it's theft. Since I don't think a phone counts as drugs or a weapon.
[–]Icreatedthisforyou -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Yeah but the schools are free to determine what is a reasonable amount of time in the U.S. specifically. Legally speaking the longest would be until the end of the school year when the student is no longer a student at the school. End of the day is most common, but several days, into weeks is not unheard of and still allowed.
NZ specifies the end of the day, or more specifically when the student leaves, which is a pretty big difference
[–]PikachuHat 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Even in the States the school would have to have documentation signed by you or a guardian (Probably on some sort of rules outline you'd sign before you start going to said school) giving them permission to retain a confiscated item for X amount of time.
If they didn't specify this then you could easily sue or legally reclaim the item but I assume most schools in the US are on top of cell phone rules by now.
[–]AnswerIsSpeedforceYOU CANT LOCK UP THE VALOR 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
STOP SPAMMING THIS BRO
[–]sokoteur 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
So I'm wrong about my generalized advice to the person I responded to, but given what you wrote, I was completely correct about my own personal story. You stated that the school makes up the policy, well my school at the time wrote a note explaining their stance on the game boy. I assumed it could be the same (apparently and unfortunately not.)
Yep basically.
[–]sokoteur 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Cool. Well glad my school was pretty lenient :)
[–]ChelWizard 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
I read your first sentence, couldn't finish the rest because you sound like a first class douchebag
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
So...
[–]ChelWizard 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
So nobody likes a douchebag.
Nobody.
[–]rawbface 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
If my kid's school took his phone or game boy, I could always go there to get it back myself. They have no right to keep his property, especially if I'm the one who paid for it. Keeping it until the end of the school year is not legal in the USA as far as I know.
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Edit: Christ the children parents in this thread.
[–]rawbface 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Well of fucking course they can confiscate shit. I never argued that.
My qualm is with how long they can keep it. Not a chance I'm going to let my kid's school keep his cell phone (which I'd be paying for) past the end of the school day. Discipline is my job. None of your examples verify the end of the school year, though.
[–]AnswerIsSpeedforceYOU CANT LOCK UP THE VALOR 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
k imma stop replying to all of these
[–]Apolloshot 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Normally I'd upvote a troll for the laughs, but said troll also has to actually be correct (or so funny being wrong it's still passable). In this case you're wrong, and also unfunny.
[+]Icreatedthisforyou スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
[–]liqu0rballsandwiches -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
the rest of the year? have fun having your tires slashed. also if you are a teacher that does this, know every single one of those kids thinks your a bitch/asshole
[+]SpiralOut2112 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-33ポイント-32ポイント-31ポイント 4時間前 (10子コメント)
You must be young if you think teachers have always been fair. If you were caught screwing around with whatever toy, you could be damn sure they would confiscate it for the rest of the school year.
I'm sure its just a case of different places. I grew up in the South and teachers had absolute authority of their classroom.
[–]treerainsun 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4時間前 (9子コメント)
Its ilegal for them to hold your/your parents property after school hours. They may require you to have you parents come into school to claim it.
[+]SpiralOut2112 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
We are talking about the past. What happened 10-20 years ago. You can downvote me all you want, but the truth is, back before all the teacher media scandals, teachers could do just about whatever they wanted. At least where I grew up.
[–]thebuggalo 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Yea but all you had to do was complain or have your parents complain. I had my TV-Remote Control Watch taken by a Teacher because my friends and I were turning on TVs throughout the school during class. After school I said I want it back. They said no, so I had my parents call the school and I had it back the next morning. I got in big trouble from my parents but even 10-20 years ago they weren't allowed to hold your personal property. You just needed to push them for it and not give up. Probably depends on the school and administration as well.
[+]SpiralOut2112 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
Yup, agreed on the administration, which is why I mentioned growing up in the South in my first post. Everyone knew everyone and most parents would hold to teachers punishment.
[+]lil-munster スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Sorry you got downvoted so much. I also grew up in a small town in the south. I went to a private school, and teachers could keep whatever you played with during class for as long as they wanted/until the end of the year. We weren't allowed ANY electronics at school, and Pokemon cards (as well as pogs, yo-yos, finger skateboards, trapper keepers, and wheeled backpacks) were banned. If you were caught with any of it outside your bag or during recess, it was taken away. Most parents told their kids they shouldn't have been breaking the rules. I only recall one (rich) new student's parent going in one day to complain/get the item back.
On really special occasions/holidays/parties, a teacher would sometimes use the moment to clean out her confiscation drawer of goodies and return items to their owners. :)
[–]rawbface 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
As long as they wanted = as long as your parents allowed.
You parents have a right to your property and the school legally has to return it after school hours. It doesn't matter if you grew up in the south, north, east or west. If they kept anything until the end of the school year, it was because your parents let them, not because they had "absolute authority" of the classroom.
[+]lil-munster スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Can you say something that wasn't said already?! You've been heard. Blah blah blah. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT THAT IT IS ILLEGAL FOR TEACHERS TO TAKE ITEMS FOR A SCHOOL YEAR.
I was JUST commiserating and remembering the good old days with OP.
Also, my school was a case of where teachers, students, and parents signed an agreement on rules and punishments. Part of that was that teachers could withhold anything for a year. Part of it was Saturday suspension would include labor around the schoolyard.
Fucking sea lawyers.
[–]SpiralOut2112 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
No worries man, just saw your post and it was at -1, guess some people just don't want to admit such a travesty is possible. :P But yeah, sounds about the same as when I grew up. I remember bringing my Pokemon cards to school and someone stole my 1st Edition Charizard. When I told the teacher she just said that I shouldn't have had them at school in the first place and that is was my fault. :(
[+]tatostix スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 3時間前* (1子コメント)
It's not. Most schools have a policy that parents/guardians sign first of the year.
Edit: Downvotes don't make this untrue
[–]thedersy1 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh yeah I forgot that school policy supersedes fucking property laws. It's illegal, no two ways about it. You can't just write school policies that subvert state and federal laws.
[–]azikrogar 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
Hell, I wrote the code for my own little adventure game (text based) on my TI-83. Teacher caught me doing it and made me delete it. I mean sure I should have been doing my English work, so it's my fault.
[–]meriweather2 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
I'm an English teacher. If I saw this happening, I would have asked about your ideas and see if it fit anything we're doing in class for a project. I'd rather support something creative and help you figure out how to use literary concepts to write a good game--while also mentioning that you could manage your time to get your work done and code your game.
[–]ytismylife 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
That's the difference between a good teacher and a jaded teacher that hates kids.
[–]silhouettegundam 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
A hero of a teacher.
[–]InvaderChin 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Amateur. How did you not pick up a "fake system wipe" program for your TI? That was standard issue back in my Intro to Calculus classes.
[–]JerseysFinestFire and Blood 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
If you would have archived it before clearing the calculator it would have saved while giving the cleared message. That's how I kept my Phoenix high score even when our calc teacher had us delete everything before tests.
[–]ThatGamer707 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 17分前 (0子コメント)
My parents would never let that happen and I would never let that happen to my kids. Holding the item until the parents come to pick it up and can have a chat is the correct action. The parents should be the one determining the child's punishment
[–]KazROFL 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分前 (0子コメント)
I wish i could have stayed home from the babysitting they called school. Most of school is just bs.
I slacked off in school all I wanted and I'm doing fine.
Not everyone needs to waste 8 hours a day to learn basic shit.
[+]Mujona_Akage スコアが基準値未満のコメント-26ポイント-25ポイント-24ポイント 5時間前 (19子コメント)
Unless you're in a highschool that requires you take bullshit classes that are designed to trick the state into giving them money lile I am. I could've coasted through my Sr. Year with English 12 and American Gov. But no my school requires I take another math credit, another science credit and another social studies credit. I already exceed the state requirements to graduate, by two credits in both math and sciences. But my school says, nah fuck that were going to make you sit through classes you don't have to take because we want to give our shit tier football team even more.money in the hopes they finally win a home game after 7 years.
[–]motonaut 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 5時間前 (14子コメント)
Yeah math and science are so dumb. I'll never even need to use anything I learn in math and science classes when I grow up to be an underwater erotic fire dancer.
[+]XenoRat スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
I'm 27 and don't use any of what I learned in high school. The most complicated math I need is division and scaling metric measurements(middle-school level math), most of the science was outdated and came from worthless textbooks, and even English was pointless. I'm still not clear on the textbook definition of an adverb but reading is a more effective way to teach the rules of grammar than rote memorization.
High school could be a valuable place to learn life skills, but the way it's set up now it's mostly just worthless filler to keep teens out of the work force.
[–]Yohni 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Yeah because everyone who goes to school does exactly the same job you currently do and they don't use math either. Or maybe school is meant to teach a broad scope of things so people have a choice what they want to do and have the base to start from in their field of choice
[–]XenoRat -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
That's the thing though, by the time I started this work I'd probably forgotten the necessary math anyway and had to re-learn it.
It's a great idea in theory, but the current school system doesn't accomplish it at all, nor does it do much good with teaching life skills like doing taxes, writing a resume(we had 1 class session about this in 4 years. A single 1-hour session), and many schools are cutting or defunding their home-ec, drivers-ed, and other non-sport electives to give more class time to the subjects that get standardized testing(because the results of those tests determine the schools' future funding).
Rather than forcing bored kids to sit through advanced algebra they'll either never use or get a re-taught in college anyway, that time could be spent teaching real life skills while still accomplishing the primary goal of keeping teens from flooding the job market.
If we as a society were serious about kids learning that BS we wouldn't give them 3 months off every summer to forget all of it, forcing teachers to spend nearly the entire first quarter of the new school year in review of the previous years' material.
[+]Mujona_Akage スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 5時間前 (10子コメント)
It's not that math and science are dumb. It's the fact I'm already ahead of most everyone else in my high-school credit wise. While everyone stops at Algebra 2, I finished up Trig and stats, putting me 2 credits over what I need. Along with taking chem I and II I'm ahead by 2 science credits as well. But my school requires I take another one just because it's my Sr. Year
[–]ScubaSte7eFire Nation 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 5時間前 (7子コメント)
What kind of school stops at Algebra 2?? Mine stopped at Calc for seniors.
[–]Mujona_Akage 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
My ass backwards middle of buttfuck no where highschool does. Simply becuase the majority of the kids here are dumb enough to fail Geom 1 twice in a row. If you want to take calc you have to take it as a college course, which the school wont pay for
[+]timmy12688 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
You're being downvoted for no reason. Here's an upvote. My hs had Calc, but it was a college prep high school. I agree that there's so many classes that were unneeded. Account class? Where is that? How to file taxes? How to purchase a home? Philosophy? Where are they? Oh right, English IV and Calc had to be taken instead.
[–]StoicThePariah 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
>philosophy
Cuz that has tangible value
[–]timmy12688 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Knowing logical fallacies and how to form arguments is valuable. But you wouldn't know this since you didn't make an argument.
[–]StoicThePariah -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I got all the way through high school and college and never took a philosophy class, and no professor ever recommended it. No one needs that dumbass field for hipsters.
[–]ScubaSte7eFire Nation 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Which is weird since I went to a public school in Arizona. Not one of the "smart" states when it comes to public education. I've always assumed Calc or Pre-Calc was the last required course.
[–]miklasbk 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
/r/iamverysmart
[–]Mujona_Akage -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I get that I'm coming off as a pretentious prick but in all reality I am smarter than most of my school, seeing as most of them don't pass Geometry 1, a sophomore level class, until the end of their Jr year.
[–]intheyear3ooo 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Yer preaching to the choir dude, because all I took senior year was some BS art class, English 12, and a study block. It still in no way gives you carte blanche to disrupt class and waste everyone else's time, all I'm seeing here is people trying desperately to excuse what they think is their privilege.
[–]LionOhDay 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Took BS art course, made friends and learned some things about photography. Don't be a jaded high schooler no one likes those.
[+]eatmyplis スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
are you joking? lol yea hs was a joke for me too.. so what's your point then if you agree? isn't that how kids can learn responsibility by doing bad in a class because of crap like that?
we can use whatever we want at my college and I'm still getting straight a's so really idk what the problem is here. And I was that same shitty student, allowed much phone use by my teachers, and barely passing HS lol. Definitely did wake me up, do nothing but study now. Teaches you how to balance priorities I think.
[–]ytismylife 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I see you have not been introduced to University level course requirements.
I'm a chemical engineer and had to take Ancient Greek mythology.
[–]Potato_Allah -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Looks like OP should've posted a trigger warning.
[–]dudeware -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 25分前 (0子コメント)
I remember getting caught texting in class on a Friday. My teacher thought it would be a great idea to confiscate it for the weekend. After school I broke into her class and stole it back. She was very surprised come Monday morning when she thought she lost my cellphone. I owned up to taking it but not after letting her squirm for a couple minutes thinking about how she was gonna explain that to the principle and my parents.
Of course she was pissed off but if I had told my parents instead of just taking it she would of been in some deep shit from them. I deserved getting my phone confiscated but definitely not for the entire weekend. She understood what could of went down and we came to an understanding that I wouldn't text in her class again. I definitely had no chill in junior high; I'm sure if I had came to her after school and apologized she would of given it back.
[–]JarnabyBones -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
When I was in high school I got caught playing Pokemon red and had my gameboy confiscated for the ENTIRE school year!
Oh. So you didn't tell your parents about it I guess. Common policy in public schools in the US is to hold property till the students parents come to pick it up.
Forces the kid to tell the parents, and the property is being returned to the legal owner (ages under 18 have limited rights). If the school held it for a year...then:
You were at a private school, where the rules are entirely different
You didn't tell your parents or they opted not to pick up the game boy, which suggests a different issue than your portrayal
The school was acting outside the scope of district policy and risked a kerfuffle out of a toy...which is unlikely.
[–]thrassoss -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
I'm pretty sure staying home is illegal in most states.
...
[–]thrassoss -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 35分前 (0子コメント)
/u/intheyear3ooo seemed to suggest that if you want to play games just stay home and play games and accept horrible carrier opportunities.
That doesn't seem to be an option.
Ohio Revised Code
Florida
California
The first 3 states I checked all have compulsory education laws(that's about 20% of the us population from disparate geographic regions, I assume it's representative of the rest of the US).
It's illegal to stay home. Not sure why this is controversial.
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